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caulfield12
02-14-2007, 06:13 AM
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-070213morrisseyzambrano,1,2918542.column?coll=cs-home-utility

The only question is whether 4 years and $60 million gets the job done. I think he will want 5 and $75 million, minimum...not to go out on the open market.

WizardsofOzzie
02-14-2007, 07:04 AM
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-070213morrisseyzambrano,1,2918542.column?coll=cs-home-utility

The only question is whether 4 years and $60 million gets the job done. I think he will want 5 and $75 million, minimum...not to go out on the open market.
I don't even think that will be enough. He's shooting for the sky on this one

Steelrod
02-14-2007, 07:23 AM
5 at 20 equals $100
Who would you rather have, Zito or Zambrano?

CanBuehrleWait
02-14-2007, 07:37 AM
After what Zito signed he is living in la la land if they think 15 per will do it. He's asking for 15.5 in arbritration.

WizardsofOzzie
02-14-2007, 07:39 AM
5 at 20 equals $100
Who would you rather have, Zito or Zambrano?
I'd have to see the split stats on how Zambrano fared in the AL before i said i wanted him over Zito. However if he did just as good in the AL as he did the NL, i'd take Zambrano as long as Ozzie could control his nutjob head

WizardsofOzzie
02-14-2007, 07:40 AM
After what Zito signed he is living in la la land if they think 15 per will do it. He's asking for 15.5 in arbritration.
Exactly. Zito got 18 per year, and Zambrano will demand that at least, if not more

itsnotrequired
02-14-2007, 07:42 AM
After what Zito signed he is living in la la land if they think 15 per will do it. He's asking for 15.5 in arbritration.

Zambrano will easily command $19 million per year on the open market. I forsee someone offering 6 yrs/$115-$120 million. Will that team be the Cubs? Beats me.

Lukin13
02-14-2007, 08:32 AM
is he unrestricted or restricted after this year???

caulfield12
02-14-2007, 09:18 AM
Unrestricted.

I think it also depends if they ripped up the contract for this year (avoiding arbitration), he would be willing to go under $18 million for this ONE season of the contract, but the average will be close to or higher than Zito's.

Keep in mind, he's only 25 or 26 years old. If he stays healthy (BIG IF), then he could get two huge contracts in his lifetime and be perhaps the highest paid pitcher (over an entire career) in MLB history.

I would guess Clemens or Big Unit have that distinction right now.

Although Santana deserves the money more, no doubt about that.

Lukin13
02-14-2007, 09:24 AM
it is a decent move by Z then....

why not gurantee yourself the payday? alot can happen in one year.

and if for some reason the cubs don't bite, and he actually wants to be a man of his word, there will be plenty of demand for him next year.

perfect business move, can't blame the guy.

gr8mexico
02-14-2007, 09:32 AM
5 at 20 equals $100
Who would you rather have, Zito or Zambrano?
That's easy Zambrano much younger and with a team with offense the guy can easily win 20 games.

spiffie
02-14-2007, 09:44 AM
I'd have to see the split stats on how Zambrano fared in the AL before i said i wanted him over Zito. However if he did just as good in the AL as he did the NL, i'd take Zambrano as long as Ozzie could control his nutjob head
His splits in AL parks are so small as to be meaningless. He has something like 35 innings in AL parks throughout his career, half of those against one team. His AL park numbers aren't all that good, but it seems foolish to try and judge him based on basically a handful of starts.

IndianWhiteSox
02-14-2007, 09:49 AM
You would think so but the thing is more of who is less likely to break down and at this point I would have to say Zito because Zambrano has a history of throwing way too many pitches per game. Not to mention I'm not sure that he would be all that great in the AL. The only reason that Zito won't dominate is because his outfield is old and slow.

gobears1987
02-14-2007, 10:05 AM
That's easy Zambrano much younger and with a team with offense the guy can easily win 20 games.Ditto. He is also the only pitcher on that staff who doesn't have injury issues.

mshake10
02-14-2007, 12:10 PM
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-070213morrisseyzambrano,1,2918542.column?coll=cs-home-utility

The only question is whether 4 years and $60 million gets the job done. I think he will want 5 and $75 million, minimum...not to go out on the open market.
I saw offer that with 2 or 3 option years that vest automatically.

NardiWasHere
02-14-2007, 01:15 PM
You would think so but the thing is more of who is less likely to break down and at this point I would have to say Zito because Zambrano has a history of throwing way too many pitches per game. Not to mention I'm not sure that he would be all that great in the AL. The only reason that Zito won't dominate is because his outfield is old and slow.

I believe Zito has thrown more pitches the past few years than Zambrano.

rdivaldi
02-14-2007, 02:10 PM
I believe Zito has thrown more pitches the past few years than Zambrano.

I'd say you are right.

2006
Zambrano: 3629
Zito: 3666

2005
Zambrano: 3562
Zito: 3806

2004
Zambrano: 3468
Zito: 3689

WLL1855
02-16-2007, 11:19 PM
The only reason that Zito won't dominate is because his outfield is old and slow.

Yeah, because that Cubs outfield is filled with gold glovers that get to everything.

Head case aside, Zambrano is a stud. Put him on any team with a halfway respectable bullpen the last couple of years and he's golden for twenty wins.