View Full Version : Who are your sleeper teams?

02-10-2007, 02:02 PM
For this year? Just for a scale, here are the odds to win the WS in Vegas -

Arizona Diamondbacks 60-1

Atlanta Braves 30-1

Baltimore Orioles 100-1

Boston Red Sox 9-1

Chicago Cubs 9-1

Chicago White Sox 10-1

Cincinnati Reds 50-1

Cleveland Indians 25-1

Colorado Rockies 100-1

Detroit Tigers 5-1

Florida Marlins 40-1

Houston Astros 40-1

Kansas City Royals 350-1

Los Angeles Angels 10-1

Los Angeles Dodgers 16-1

Milwaukee Brewers 50-1

Minnesota Twins 25-1

New York Mets 10-1

New York Yankees 7-2

Oakland Athletics 20-1

Philadelphia Phillies 16-1

Pittsburgh Pirates 200-1

San Diego Padres 30-1

San Francisco Giants 20-1

Seattle Mariners 100-1

St Louis Cardinals 10-1

Tampa Bay Devil Rays 350-1

Texas Rangers 40-1

Toronto Blue Jays 15-1

Washington Nationals 200-1

02-10-2007, 03:29 PM
I know this sound retarded in many ways but I think the Royals could be a sleeper in the AL Central and the Orioles could be sleeper in the AL East.

A. Cavatica
02-10-2007, 03:33 PM
Cubs 9-1, Sox 10-1...remind me again why even Cub fans take that team seriously?

02-10-2007, 03:36 PM
They're called sheep for a reason. :redneck

02-10-2007, 03:40 PM
Brewers and Dbacks could be solid bets 50-1 and 60-1. Especially the Brewers they play in a bad division, they have talent and as St Louis showed once in the playoffs anything can happen.

02-10-2007, 03:41 PM
For this year? Just for a scale, here are the odds to win the WS in Vegas -

Florida Marlins 40-1

If I were a betting man on a trip to Vegas, this wouldn't be a stupid investment

02-10-2007, 03:49 PM
No sleeper team is going to win the World Series, I know that.

However if you were betting on division winners or sleeper teams -

Arizona has a lot of great young players and has improved their pitching staff a great deal.

Milwaukee, should hopefully, if everyone says healthy finally be able to make a splash.

Cincinnati, as well, I think Arroyo/Harang will build on last years great performances and really make a run for that division.

Unfortunately, I don't see many surprising teams making splashes in the AL. There are just too many dominant teams for a phoenix to rise out of that.

02-10-2007, 04:31 PM
I seriously think the Royals are going to cause major headaches for a lot of teams this year, I dont think they have a prayer of winning the Central, but I could see them flirting with .500 and I see them being pests to the Sox, Tigers and Twins.

I also think the Brewers are going to make a serious push towards the NL Central.

02-10-2007, 05:02 PM
NL West: Arizona. The Dbacks have a solid rotation and I think Randy Johnson will have a much better year in the NL. Livan Hernandez and Doug Davis are solid 3rd and 4th starters, and Webb will probably have another season where he is among the top 3 pitchers in the NL. AZ has a solid, young core that will only improve. The Dodgers will continue to get better and the Pads will remain near the top of the division as well. SF will still suck and finish in front of Colorado. IMO, the NL West will be the most competitve division in the NL this year.

NL Central: No one. This whole division sucks. It's too bad that one of these teams will get a shot in the playoffs over probably Florida and one of San Diego/AZ/LA.

NL East: Philly. They have a solid, playoff calibur rotation and if they can take that division I think they will have the best shot in the NL to go to the World Series. Florida will be tough with a healthy starting staff. If not, they are a shoe-in for 3rd IMO. The Mets won't finish any higher than 2nd with that staff. Even if Pedro comes back midseason and is the old Pedro, it will not be enough to overtake Philly. I'm going to guess that Omar will regret not dealing for another starter. The Braves finish 4th no matter what, and the Nats look like crap all year.

AL Central: No one. I think KC will improve a lot this year, although that will not be reflected much in the win totals. I don't see another 100-loss season for them, but I doubt they finish higher than 4th. Minny will have serious trouble without Radke and Liriano. Cleveland, Detroit, and the Sox will be in a 3-team dogfight for 1st and probably the wildcard as well.

AL East: No one. Toronto is going to be a big disappointment. They have a solid team but so do the Red Sox. The class of that division is the Yankees and it will remain so for probably another 2 years at least. TB should be better but no one will notice the battle for 4th place with Baltimore.

AL West: Rangers. The AL West is going to be a lot tougher for teams not named the Rangers. They have upgraded their starting staff and their offense is still solid. The Angels should still take this division, but if they fall off like last year they are in big, big trouble. The A's finish third IMO and the Mariners still suck badly.

So I guess the only sleepers I can see are Texas, AZ, and Philly. IMO, the Yankees and two of Sox/Indians/Detroit are the only locks for the playoffs.

02-10-2007, 06:03 PM
If I could take any bet I'd probably take the Phillies at 16-1

02-10-2007, 06:22 PM
I recall posting odds of the Sox in 2005 to win it all at 60-1. so the Sox were a sleeper team before 2005. Just ask munchman33. :smile:

02-10-2007, 06:32 PM
Kind of with everyone. The Brewers have a good offense, a sneaky good rotation, and are built for a long season (however, they are not built for a short series). If some of their guys turn it around, the MARINERS could be a very dangerous team. The Diamondbacks are really dangerous, because they could be loaded for a short series. You could possibly have to face Webb-Unit-Livan 1-2-3, which is no easy task, especially if Livan can find what made him good. The have a young and deep offense, and they will turn some heads this year, if not next.

I wish I was on my way to Vegas, because I would really think about putting 40 bucks on the Devil Rays. That offense can be good, the bullpen and the pitching are young and questionable, but if a few things go right, this team could compete for the wild card and be better then Toronto.

02-10-2007, 09:56 PM
If anyone bet on the Royals or Devil Rays and they won the World Series, they'd be happy men.

02-10-2007, 10:11 PM
to me, Florida and MN should never be sleeper picks. They are like cockroaches. They always find a way.

I'm going with Pittsburgh to make a run during the season. They won't make the playoffs but they'll be a big story over the summer.

Going the other way, I think finally this is the year where NY and Boston tail off but seeing the Blue Jays at 15-1 isn't enough to call them a sleeper.

02-10-2007, 10:16 PM

02-10-2007, 10:40 PM
I know this sound retarded in many ways but I think the Royals could be a sleeper in the AL Central and the Orioles could be sleeper in the AL East.

That's what I was thinking. The Royals could be a surprise.

02-10-2007, 11:48 PM
That's what I was thinking. The Royals could be a surprise.
I don't think the Royals have a prayer to contend but I think they will cause a lot of headaches for a lot good teams. .500 is a very real possibility for them.

02-10-2007, 11:58 PM
Toronto. They should compete in the AL East.

02-11-2007, 04:59 PM
According to those odds, I like Arizona and Philidelphia.

Where did these come from, a particular casino or website?

02-11-2007, 08:55 PM
Definitely the Royals. They've had some of the right parts for a while, just no coordination at all.

02-11-2007, 09:16 PM
Most improved; not to win the whole shebang...

In the AL: Texas & Kansas City

In the NL: Milwaukee & Pittsburgh

02-11-2007, 10:13 PM
Cubs 9-1, Sox 10-1...remind me again why even Cub fans take that team seriously?

The NL is weaker than the AL; given that it won't take much to win the pennant, and especially in light of what happened last year, I'd give the Cubs better odds of winning it all. No one's saying the Cubs are a better team, just that they have an easier road ahead of them.

Beer Can Chicken
02-11-2007, 10:15 PM
If I was betting, I'd take the Indians in the AL and the Brewers in the NL.

02-11-2007, 10:48 PM
In the AL: Texas & Kansas City

Is it just that people the long odds they're being given? Because I'm not how people see the Rangers as particularly improved. They're replacing the production they got from four months of a steady power hitter (Mench) along with the two months of Carlos Lee, and two guys who had career years in Mark DeRosa and Gary Matthews Jr. Now Catalanatto's a good pickup for one of those spots, but the aging Lofton and Captain Cork aren't going to make up for the other two. Even Texas fans who are sure this is their year say "our pitching is better than it's been" like that's some kind of compliment. "As far as overpaid pitchers go, Kevin Millwood sucks way less than Chan Ho Park" does not mean this team is going to compete with with the Angels and A's. Gagne could be good, but the bullpen wasn't the problem last year. The horrendous starting pitching was, and it still is.

02-11-2007, 11:06 PM
AL: Orioles
NL: Pirates

02-12-2007, 10:13 AM
Just picking out of thin air
NL: Nationals
AL" Blue Jays

So the Yankers are favorites. Based on what, they can't possibly choke in the post season seven years in a row?

02-12-2007, 10:26 AM
I know this sound retarded in many ways but I think the Royals could be a sleeper in the AL Central and the Orioles could be sleeper in the AL East.

I was thinking the same

02-12-2007, 01:41 PM

02-12-2007, 03:44 PM
NL West: Sleeper:Colorado, LA wins division

NL Central: Sleeper:Milwaukee, Houston wins division, Milwaukee WC. Cubs fall off the map.

NL East: Sleeper:Marlins - wins division

AL Central: Sleeper:KC, Sox wins Division, Twins WC

AL East: Tampa Bay :o:, Yankees win div.

AL West: Rangers, Oakland wins div.

02-12-2007, 03:50 PM
What's with all the Royals love in this thread? Just because they paid Gil Meche a ****load of money, doesn't mean they are going to be any good. And that was about the only move they made. I thought the Shealy trade before the deadline last year was smart, but they really haven't improved all that much. And they're playing in the toughest division in baseball with about 45% of their games played against the Sox, Twins, Tigers and Indians. They'll be lucky to approach 70 wins.

As for my sleeper, I'll pile on the Brewers. I really like what they've put together. If Ben Sheets is healthy, they'll be strong contenders this year.

02-12-2007, 04:11 PM
The Cubs will ALWAYS get good odds, even if they suck, at the stat of the year...why? I asked a Sports Book in Vegas why, he said there are so many Cubs fans nationwide and they all come ot Vegas and bet them to win, mostly for a gag, that if they did give them 100-1 odds and they did win the WS, they would be out a ton of money..my friend put 20 bucks on them just so he could frame the win ticket that he went to Vegas and bet the Cubs to win the WS.