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WhiteSoxFan84
02-05-2007, 12:08 AM
If this has been done already, I apologize. I was looking at the Sox schedule and noticed that on Sunday April 8th, we play the Minnesota Twins at home. And guess who their starting pitcher will be (if healthy)? Yup, Johan Santana. So it got me thinking, who will the Sox start on opening day? Then it got me thinking, what will their rotation look like? Here's what I would WANT...


1) Jose Contreras
2) Jon Garland
3) Mark Buehrle
4) Javier Vazquez
5) Gavin Floyd


Now I want to see your "hopeful" starting rotation. Don't put more then one name per slot. Yes, I know there is a lot of ifs, ands, ors, and buts laying around, but ignore them. Just be a man or woman and pick one pitcher for each slot.

JohnTucker0814
02-05-2007, 12:24 AM
My rotation:

1. Mark Buehrle (deserves opening day start)
2. Jon Garland
3. Jose Contreras
4. Javier Vazquez
5. Gavin Floyd

pretty much the same as your, however Buehrle deserves the opening nod!

WhiteSoxFan84
02-05-2007, 12:37 AM
My rotation:

1. Mark Buehrle (deserves opening day start)
2. Jon Garland
3. Jose Contreras
4. Javier Vazquez
5. Gavin Floyd

pretty much the same as your, however Buehrle deserves the opening nod!


Not to sound like an ass or anything, but please explain. I never bought into that theory. What did he do last year to deserve the starting nod this year? Yes, he's a class act and has been with the organization his whole life, but does that factor in to his wins, ERA, etc.? Jon Garland leads the team in wins the last 3 seasons, signed a very reasonable 3-year deal (showing loyalty), and has been a class act & with the organization his whole major league career. Why doesn't he deserve the nod?

sox1970
02-05-2007, 07:16 AM
Ozzie has already said it will be:

Contreras
Buehrle
Garland
Vazquez
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I'll go with Floyd as #5 now.

Rockabilly
02-05-2007, 07:49 AM
1 Garland
2 Buehrle
3 Contreras
4 Vazquez
5 Haeger

JohnTucker0814
02-05-2007, 09:06 AM
Not to sound like an ass or anything, but please explain. I never bought into that theory. What did he do last year to deserve the starting nod this year? Yes, he's a class act and has been with the organization his whole life, but does that factor in to his wins, ERA, etc.? Jon Garland leads the team in wins the last 3 seasons, signed a very reasonable 3-year deal (showing loyalty), and has been a class act & with the organization his whole major league career. Why doesn't he deserve the nod?

What did any of the other 4 do to deserve the nod? I could see if Contreras was lights out all year or Garland... but none of the pitchers was a true #1... so therefor, you give the nod to the guy that has been the most consistent pitcher for your team over the past 4 years, the guy that has started opening day for the past so many years...

THAT'S WHY!

veeter
02-05-2007, 10:31 AM
What did any of the other 4 do to deserve the nod? I could see if Contreras was lights out all year or Garland... but none of the pitchers was a true #1... so therefor, you give the nod to the guy that has been the most consistent pitcher for your team over the past 4 years, the guy that has started opening day for the past so many years...

THAT'S WHY!Well, Garland by far was the best pitcher last season. But Mark should get it because he's the mainstay. He's the horse. He's the captain. The Contreras thing makes no sense to me. Maybe it's to boost his confidence.

veeter
02-05-2007, 10:33 AM
Didn't mean to sabotage the thread.

1.)Jose
2.)Buerhle
3.)Garland
4.)Vasquez
5.)Haeger

russ99
02-05-2007, 10:44 AM
Didn't mean to sabotage the thread.

1.)Jose
2.)Buerhle
3.)Garland
4.)Vasquez
5.)Haeger

While I think Haeger's in the mix, remember that knucklers don't work so well until the weather gets warm. They tend to flatten out at the end in colder weather and hitters can tee off. I'd give Haeger first shot to start in June or July in case one of the kids can't cut it.

1. Contreras
2. Garland
3. Buehrle
4. Vazquez
5. Danks

viagracat
02-05-2007, 11:59 AM
Since the Opening Day starter has apparently already been decided, I'll go with:

Contreras
Garland
Buehrle
Vazquez
Danks

soxtalker
02-05-2007, 12:19 PM
If this has been done already, I apologize. I was looking at the Sox schedule and noticed that on Sunday April 8th, we play the Minnesota Twins at home. And guess who their starting pitcher will be (if healthy)? Yup, Johan Santana. So it got me thinking, who will the Sox start on opening day? Then it got me thinking, what will their rotation look like? Here's what I would WANT...


1) Jose Contreras
2) Jon Garland
3) Mark Buehrle
4) Javier Vazquez
5) Gavin Floyd


Now I want to see your "hopeful" starting rotation. Don't put more then one name per slot. Yes, I know there is a lot of ifs, ands, ors, and buts laying around, but ignore them. Just be a man or woman and pick one pitcher for each slot.

Most likely is what you've suggested. But you asked for "hopeful." Well, then I'll throw out this:

1) Jose Contreras
2) Jon Garland
3) Mark Buehrle
4) Gavin Floyd
5) Haeger (though I'd really like a wildcard for one of the remaining
new and/or young faces)

I'm "hoping" that several of the new/young arms will do well -- much better than many in the media and many fans are expecting. That could enable a trade with another team -- maybe the Mets, but there could be others -- that will be looking to fill holes that have become apparent in ST. (Actually, in such a scenario, Vazquez is the most obvious and the one to which Sox fans are least attached, but I could see KW being open to trading others.)

Murphy10
02-05-2007, 10:10 PM
1. Jose Contreras
2. Mark Buehrle
3. Jon Garland
4. Gavin Floyd
5. Javier Vazquez

By the end of the year

1. Jose Contreras
2. Mark Buehrle
3. Jon Garland
4. Gavin Floyd
5. Charlie Hagear

So I'm saying Javy can't go past the fifth like last year. So for the second half Ozzie puts him out in the BP.

Domeshot17
02-05-2007, 10:33 PM
Here is my thinking

1 Contreras (15-7 4.10)
2 Garland (16-10 3.89)
3 Buehlre (19-9 3.21)
4 Vazquez (17-7 3.98)
5 ???

I would have to think Danks/Haeger/Flloyd. However, I don't want another Brian Anderson, handed a position he didn't earn, so I will reserve my 5th starter until spring training.

I will say, I think Gavin turns it around, and has a good year as the 5th personally (13-9 4.71 era).

I put my 2007 predictions next to them

IndianWhiteSox
02-05-2007, 10:40 PM
My dream rotation

Ace-Contreras
2-Willis(In a three way trade with Vazquez)
3-Garland
4-Buehrle
5-Floyd

My actual rotation

Ace-Contreras
2-Garland
3-Buehrle
4-Vazquez
5-Floyd

ShoelessJoeS
02-05-2007, 10:42 PM
Contreras
Garland
Buehrle
Vazquez
Haeger

Jerksticks
02-05-2007, 10:54 PM
So I'm saying Javy can't go past the fifth like last year. So for the second half Ozzie puts him out in the BP.

I'm feelin ya if he struggles, but I just don't see us paying him around 10 million bucks to pitch in the bullpen. I think we'd trade him before we'd do that.

I got
Contreras
Buehrle
Garland
Danks
Vazquez

This way we come at them RightyLeftyRightyLeftyRighty. EVERY series (except possibly a two-gamer) is guaranteed to throw out a lefty. I like it!

BobbyJenks4Prez
02-06-2007, 07:59 PM
Contreras
Garland
Buehrle
Vazquez
Haeger

i dont mind this rotation. if contreras is healthy, give him the #1 spot. garland's steady improvement over the years can bump him up to the #2 spot. maybe buehrle being put down at #3 will get him to settle down and relax and get a chance to dominate again like old times when we face teams and their extremely weak #3/4 starters (ala garland the past few yrs). hence, his stats will boost and he'll fall into his old form again. the big thing is the #5 spot. if it truly is between haeger and floyd, i'd give it to haeger simply because i dunno how i feel about a knuckleballer coming out of the bullpen for anything besides long relief (if floyd was the #5). if he comes into a close game with a guy on 1st or 1st/3rd, you know that stolen bases will be hard to avoid. i'd rather have haeger up and floyd in the minors than the other way around. according to last yr, haeger looks ready to make the jump. i dont think it would hurt to have floyd and danks in AAA for one more yr to fine tune them and get them ready for 08. if haeger struggles, we can always bring one of them up.