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caulfield12
02-03-2007, 12:13 AM
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-070203rogers,1,132489.column?coll=cs-home-headlines

FedEx227
02-03-2007, 12:18 AM
The only one that didn't make it even to the playoffs, Cleveland, believes it is in position to surge past the White Sox, Detroit Tigers and Minnesota Twins this season. So is he implying that the White Sox, Tigers and Twins all made the playoffs.

The Cubs should go to camp with at least 15 solid choices for the 12 jobs on the pitching staff. The doesn't count anyone from the group of prospects that includes Sean Gallagher, Carlos Marmol, Angel Guzman, Juan Mateo, Jae Kuk Ryu, Clay Rapada and Rocky Cherry. Ex-manager Dusty Baker never was blessed with this much depth.

Um...yes he was, those guys have all been there. And those are not good prospects at all.

kidmccarthy
02-03-2007, 12:18 AM
no mention of the Royals?

lakeviewsoxfan
02-03-2007, 12:19 AM
I lost count.

DumpJerry
02-03-2007, 12:29 AM
I lost count.
POTW!

He mentioned the Tribe went 1-6 at the end of the '05 season. They went 1-7.

SBSoxFan
02-03-2007, 07:03 AM
The Cubs should go to camp with at least 15 solid choices for the 12 jobs on the pitching staff. The doesn't count anyone from the group of prospects that includes Sean Gallagher, Carlos Marmol, Angel Guzman, Juan Mateo, Jae Kuk Ryu, Clay Rapada and Rocky Cherry. Ex-manager Dusty Baker never was blessed with this much depth.

Poor Dusty. He leaves and then 6 months later the cubs become SO deep at pitching. How does that happen anyhow? :rolleyes:

caulfield12
02-03-2007, 08:18 AM
Buchholz was traded from the Astros to the Rockies for Jennings (the deal Garland was orignally rumored in, with Hirsch/Taveras). He's not a Red Sox prospect they would be looking to trade to get Helton.

caulfield12
02-03-2007, 08:36 AM
POTW!

He mentioned the Tribe went 1-6 at the end of the '05 season. They went 1-7.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2005_sched.shtml

1-6, their only win was against TB after the Sunday lost "ball in the sun" game against KC.

They won four in a row before that Sunday game, then the train derailed and crashed that weekend at home against the Sox bench.

champagne030
02-03-2007, 10:25 AM
Buchholz was traded from the Astros to the Rockies for Jennings (the deal Garland was orignally rumored in, with Hirsch/Taveras). He's not a Red Sox prospect they would be looking to trade to get Helton.

Different Buchholz. Clay Buchholz was the Red Sox minor league pitcher of the year in 2006. He's currently the #2 rated prospect in the Red Sox organization by BA.

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=178153

SOXSINCE'70
02-04-2007, 12:13 PM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2005_sched.shtml

1-6, their only win was against TB after the Sunday lost "ball in the sun" game against KC.

They won four in a row before that Sunday game, then the train derailed and crashed that weekend at home against the Sox bench.

That was a beautiful week for this White Sox fan.:cool:

veeter
02-04-2007, 12:28 PM
I'm tired of the Indian love. Eric Wedge will be the first manager on the hot seat this year. Mark my words. And any of his cub references lately have been so untrue, that they're not even worth mentioning.

caulfield12
02-04-2007, 02:42 PM
I'll make an analogy. As an Iowa grad, Wedge keeping his job is like Michigan holding on to Amaker. Every minute of his tenure is a blessed one.

The problem comes when they smarten up and bring in a Bob Huggins/Billy Gillespie who actually knows what he's doing....then you have the sleeping giant awakened. Look at the Tigers with Leyland last year, and hopefully not the Cubs this season.

ondafarm
02-04-2007, 03:10 PM
The Indians have a gaping hole at shortstop. Although you prefer a good bat there, you cannot afford a poor defender at shortstop. Perralta is not a solid defender at all. Until the Indians plug that hole, they will continue to lose a lot of close games.

UserNameBlank
02-04-2007, 03:17 PM
I'm tired of the Indian love. Eric Wedge will be the first manager on the hot seat this year. Mark my words. And any of his cub references lately have been so untrue, that they're not even worth mentioning.

I think the Indians are definitely deserving of the respect they get because they have a very solid young club with veterans in the pen and an underrated - at least in the media - top 3 starting pitchers.

That said, Wedge is holding them back. I remember when the Sox swept the Indians to keep them out of the playoffs I thought Indians fans were going to celebrate their remarkable season by burning Wedge's effigy on the field. Then Shapiro does nothing in the offseason but overpay for Paul Byrd and pick up Andy Marte and Jason Johnson. The Michaels for Rhodes move was the only thing that has worked so far. On top of that, they still stick with Eric "What the Hell is Fundamental Baseball?" Wedge and tank.

Lots of Indians fans think that Shapiro loves Wedge and will never dump him, and I can see where they are coming from. If I were a Tribe fan I'd be more worried about the quality of the youth on the team making a bad manager look good during the season and then paying for it in the playoffs.

UserNameBlank
02-04-2007, 03:19 PM
The Indians have a gaping hole at shortstop. Although you prefer a good bat there, you cannot afford a poor defender at shortstop. Perralta is not a solid defender at all. Until the Indians plug that hole, they will continue to lose a lot of close games.

At least Peralta could hit in '05. In '06 he took the patented Angel Berroa swan dive. Will he recover enough in '07 to raise his trade value?

sox230
02-06-2007, 01:18 PM
I'll make an analogy. As an Iowa grad, Wedge keeping his job is like Michigan holding on to Amaker. Every minute of his tenure is a blessed one.

Iowa fans hate Michigan? Does everbody hate Michigan or something? We don't give a crap about Iowa. Man, lots of people are jealous. Yeah, Amaker blows. But Michigan never fires anybody unless they cheat...we're too full of ourselves to ever make such a "rash" decision as to fire someone. Wow, I wrote a post not mentioning the Sox. OK, Go Sox!

caulfield12
02-06-2007, 02:29 PM
No, we love Michigan, as long as they don't have a good coach...which remains likely, if they continue to run a "clean" program (unlike Fischer or Ellerbe or Frieder) and Amaker's wife works in the administration there.

Michigan should be a Top 20 team every year. No excuses.

Iowa fans dislike Iowa State and Illinois, maybe Wisconsin a little now that Bielema (ex-Hawk) is football coach and UW has been so good in BB.

PennStater98r
02-06-2007, 03:35 PM
The Cubs should go to camp with at least 15 solid choices for the 12 jobs on the pitching staff. The doesn't count anyone from the group of prospects that includes Sean Gallagher, Carlos Marmol, Angel Guzman, Juan Mateo, Jae Kuk Ryu, Clay Rapada and Rocky Cherry. Ex-manager Dusty Baker never was blessed with this much depth.


Fixed that for Phil. Now he doesn't have any mistakes.

oeo
02-06-2007, 04:06 PM
Um...yes he was, those guys have all been there. And those are not good prospects at all.

I respect that he comes here and defends himself, but he's full of **** when he says there is no bias.

IndianWhiteSox
02-06-2007, 05:37 PM
I respect that he comes here and defends himself, but he's full of **** when he says there is no bias.

I think he realizes that there is a bias but I don't think that he himself is biased as some other posters have shown on WSI forums and showed his autograph stating,"Hopefully, they'll go back ot back" or something like that
I remember seeing on this website.

maurice
02-06-2007, 07:31 PM
Fixed that for Phil.

The sad thing is that he's dead serious when he claims that:
- the Cubs have "at least 15 solid" pitchers + 7 legitimate young pitchers for 2007
- Cleveland's old crappy pitchers & young unproven pitchers all will perform well in 2007
- The young & veteran pitchers for Minnesota & Detroit will maintain their 2006 level of performance
- McCarthy & Garcia are the favorites for the AL & NL Cy Young in 2007

Yet, at the same time, he claims that none of the 8 pitchers the Sox added will help them in 2007, and he denies that the Sox might just maybe get better performances from their 2006 underperformers (Buehrle, et al.)
:rolleyes:

Sorry, Phil. I'll take Danks over Rocky Cherry (is that his real name or his porn name?) any day . . . and so would every MLB GM.