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Chrisaway
01-30-2007, 03:04 PM
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20070130&content_id=1789674&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

UserNameBlank
01-30-2007, 03:06 PM
huh???

HotelWhiteSox
01-30-2007, 03:06 PM
Nice. I liked him, but then he kind of disappeared little. I see the release says he was in AAA, oh well, you never know, good to have backups

ShoelessJoeS
01-30-2007, 03:06 PM
Nice acquisition????

UserNameBlank
01-30-2007, 03:08 PM
Hmm... sounds like insurace in AAA in case anything happens to Tadahito. I like this move.

Chrisaway
01-30-2007, 03:08 PM
Perhaps he's insurance if Uribe cant play this year?

CPditka
01-30-2007, 03:16 PM
I like the move. A good back up. However his best days are probably behind him. Typical Kenny move trying to catch lightining in a bottle.

As a side note, I find it funny when people with names like Junior get old.

KRS1
01-30-2007, 03:16 PM
Perhaps he's insurance if Uribe cant play this year?

Cintron is insurance in case Juan can't play, which I highly doubt happens anyway. Spivey is hardly a SS, and I'd wager to say Lopez, Valido, and Gonzalez would all be ahead of Junior in case of extreme emergency.

StepsInSC
01-30-2007, 03:18 PM
Perhaps he's insurance if Uribe cant play this year?

Not sure if that's the thinking; he's been solely a 2B throughout his career.

At the very least he hits left handers better than Iguichi. Although, that's about all he does.

Chrisaway
01-30-2007, 03:28 PM
Cintron is insurance in case Juan can't play, which I highly doubt happens anyway. Spivey is hardly a SS, and I'd wager to say Lopez, Valido, and Gonzalez would all be ahead of Junior in case of extreme emergency.
Im just saying hed be the IF backup if Cintron hadta take over short.

UserNameBlank
01-30-2007, 03:39 PM
Im just saying hed be the IF backup if Cintron hadta take over short.

The Sox already have a 2B in Pablo and a UT player in Mackowiak who can both play the infield poorly. My guess is he is a backup for Tadahito and, if he isn't traded somewhere by the time the Sox expand the rosters, which I think is probably what the Sox's best case scenario would be, he will be brought up for a few days before being released.

If Uribe gets stuck at home and Cintron becomes the starting SS, KW will make a trade for a backup SS.

JUribe1989
01-30-2007, 03:44 PM
I have ALWAYS liked Spivey. He has been one of my favorite players since his days with the D'Backs. I like this signing just because of my Spivey-bias. I wish we could have a spot for him on the roster though.

Save McCuddy's
01-30-2007, 03:55 PM
Cintron is insurance in case Juan can't play, which I highly doubt happens anyway. Spivey is hardly a SS, and I'd wager to say Lopez, Valido, and Gonzalez would all be ahead of Junior in case of extreme emergency.


Agreed -- They'd never think of him as a starting shortstop, but he's probably a favorable option as a back-up middle infielder fro now than Lopez, Valido and Gonzalez would be if anything happened to Uribe --although, he wouldn't be an automatic choice.

Additionally, he's got experince leading off.

Chrisaway
01-30-2007, 03:56 PM
The Sox already have a 2B in Pablo and a UT player in Mackowiak who can both play the infield poorly. My guess is he is a backup for Tadahito and, if he isn't traded somewhere by the time the Sox expand the rosters, which I think is probably what the Sox's best case scenario would be, he will be brought up for a few days before being released.

If Uribe gets stuck at home and Cintron becomes the starting SS, KW will make a trade for a backup SS.
Ahh touche I forgot about Pablo.

illini81887
01-30-2007, 04:13 PM
To minor league deal per SCORE and whitesox website

WizardsofOzzie
01-30-2007, 04:19 PM
To minor league deal per SCORE and whitesox website
There is already a thread on this in the clubhouse, and why would you post this in WTS??? :?:

CWSpalehoseCWS
01-30-2007, 04:27 PM
But does anyone really want Pablo playing SS? And Mack has never played SS.

IndianWhiteSox
01-30-2007, 04:33 PM
I hate to say this but:

:hawk

"Where's He Gonna Play?"

Domeshot17
01-30-2007, 04:36 PM
Making a lot out of nothing. This is a minor league contract, not like we just gave him 750,000 1 year deal

UserNameBlank
01-30-2007, 04:45 PM
But does anyone really want Pablo playing SS? And Mack has never played SS.

Don't worry about Pablo. I'd be willing to bet that Jermaine Dye is higher up on the SS depth chart than Pablo.

veeter
01-30-2007, 04:53 PM
Nothing against the guy, but I hope he doesn't get one at-bat for the Sox this year. If he plays, we've got problems.

Chicken Dinner
01-30-2007, 04:54 PM
Good trade bait for later in the season.

Chez
01-30-2007, 04:56 PM
This is an insurance pick-up in the event that Iguchi, Cintron, Uribe, Ozuna, Valido are all involved in a massive 5 car pile-up this Spring. Nothing more.

sox1970
01-30-2007, 05:00 PM
He'll be a part time player at Charlotte. I wouldn't read into this too much.

DumpJerry
01-30-2007, 05:07 PM
I hate to say this but:

:hawk

"Where's He Gonna Play?"
It's a MINOR league contract. I'm guessing Charlotte.

santo=dorf
01-30-2007, 05:11 PM
Good trade bait for later in the season.
Yeah I'm sure teams are just drooling over a guy who hit .200 in AAA last season.

It's a low risk, lower reward move made by the Sox. Nothing more.

DaveIsHere
01-30-2007, 05:56 PM
Sox Signed him to a 2- year minor league deal.

The White Sox added insurance at second base Tuesday by signing 2002 National League All-Star Junior Spivey to a minor-league contract.


http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-070130soxspivey,1,7338103.story?coll=cs-whitesox-headlines

Edit: Sorry guys, dont know how I missed this thread.

mshake10
01-30-2007, 07:14 PM
Sox Signed him to a 2- year minor league deal.



http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-070130soxspivey,1,7338103.story?coll=cs-whitesox-headlines

Edit: Sorry guys, dont know how I missed this thread.
Two years? Talk about desperation for job security.

crazyozzie02
01-30-2007, 11:35 PM
Just got one word for this....meh

Lillian
01-31-2007, 07:21 AM
Could this be more than insurance against injury to Iguchi? Iguchi will be arbitration eligible at the end of the season. With Spivey signed to a two year deal, maybe they are considering the possibility of going with Jr. next year. What kind of salary would Iguchi get assuming that he has another year similar to the two, almost identical, years he has produced so far?

They are exactly the same age, and have very similar career numbers in the Majors. Spivey had some injuries, which accounted for his drop in performance. Is he completely healthy now?

How good is his defense at Second?

Could he be a viable alternative to Iguchi for next year, especially if he has a good year at Charlotte?

Jurr
01-31-2007, 08:40 AM
I have ALWAYS liked Spivey. He has been one of my favorite players since his days with the D'Backs. I like this signing just because of my Spivey-bias. I wish we could have a spot for him on the roster though.
Last year, while Timo Perez was absolutely lighting things up in Memphis, we would always watch Spivey and say the same thing every time he stepped up to the plate.....what the hell happened to this guy? He was absolutely LOST at the plate. He had some good moments, of course, but he looked overmatched against AAA players.

sox1970
01-31-2007, 09:43 AM
Last year, while Timo Perez was absolutely lighting things up in Memphis, we would always watch Spivey and say the same thing every time he stepped up to the plate.....what the hell happened to this guy? He was absolutely LOST at the plate. He had some good moments, of course, but he looked overmatched against AAA players.

Sounds like another Don Cooper project.

Medford Bobby
01-31-2007, 09:47 AM
:cool: When I worked in Las Vegas in 2002 ( Vegas girl B shows) at the Fairfield Grand Resort Junior's Dad work there as well and we talked a lot about his son. The D-Backs paid him pretty good early in his career and I wonder if he lost alot of focus on baseball as he was already content with a settled lifestyle. Funny though I thought he would be a good pick up circa 2004....

BUT, maybe now the bank account is getting low and he will be hungry to earn a real roster spot?????????:o:

Lillian
01-31-2007, 10:23 AM
In rethinking my previous post, I guess that the Sox don't really have much concern over Iguchi's contract status. If I understand correctly, he will still be under their control for another 3 years, even if they have to go to arbitration. If that's the case, it's not much of an issue.

Therefore, I suppose the Spivey acquisition is simply insurance. In any case, I like it.

downstairs
01-31-2007, 11:01 AM
You know its the long, cold winter when a Junior Spivey thread reaches three pages...

:cool:

caulfield12
01-31-2007, 11:02 AM
Tadahito Iguchi 2b-ss
2 years/$4.95M (2005-06), plus $3.25M 2007 club option

<LI style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana">05:$2.3M, 06:$2.4M, 07:$3.25M club option ($0.25M buyout) <LI style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana">club exercised $3.25M 2007 club option 10/06
signed as a free agent from Japan 1/05
ML service: 2.000 Iguchi is a FA after this year, along with Dye, Buehrle and POSSIBLY Vazquez, although I don't think they will decline to offer him arbitration unless he totally tanks.

The White Sox only have Chris Getz as a prospect at this position, unless they move Valido and decide to keep Uribe/Cintron after this year or don't make an acquisition, like a Rollins, Brandon Wood/Aybar or Michael Young move.

Lillian
01-31-2007, 11:36 AM
Tadahito Iguchi 2b-ss
2 years/$4.95M (2005-06), plus $3.25M 2007 club option

<LI style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana">05:$2.3M, 06:$2.4M, 07:$3.25M club option ($0.25M buyout) <LI style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana">club exercised $3.25M 2007 club option 10/06
signed as a free agent from Japan 1/05
ML service: 2.000 Iguchi is a FA after this year, along with Dye, Buehrle and POSSIBLY Vazquez, although I don't think they will decline to offer him arbitration unless he totally tanks.

The White Sox only have Chris Getz as a prospect at this position, unless they move Valido and decide to keep Uribe/Cintron after this year or don't make an acquisition, like a Rollins, Brandon Wood/Aybar or Michael Young move.

Thank you for the clarification. So my original thought was correct. Iguchi will be a free agent. I'm still a little confused. Does this mean that he can walk after the season? If so, then how does arbitration enter into it? I thought that arbitration was just for players under the control of their current team, but with no settled contract.

I wasn't sure whether players signing as free agents from Japan had to have the same Major League tender, as the guys who sign out of amateur ball. Apparently they do not. Is that right?

caulfield12
01-31-2007, 04:28 PM
Iguchi, Buehrle and Dye can walk...doesn't matter if the White Sox offer arbitration or not.

Vazquez can walk, but only if the White Sox don't offer arbitration.

Thome25
01-31-2007, 04:35 PM
Iguchi, Buehrle and Dye can walk...doesn't matter if the White Sox offer arbitration or not.

Vazquez can walk, but only if the White Sox don't offer arbitration.

At the very least two of those four players will be playing elsewhere in 2008.
Vasquez is a lock to be gone after 2007. Take your pick with the remaining three.

Foulke You
01-31-2007, 04:50 PM
I think he is brought to Spring Training in case someone like Iguchi, Ozuna, or Cintron gets hurt. Once everyone is healthy (hopefully) Spivey starts in Charlotte and isn't heard from again until we trade him for a pitching prospect. This reminds me of the Jeremy Giambi signing from a while back except that Spivey isn't a roid abuser to my knowledge.

mshake10
01-31-2007, 11:38 PM
Iguchi, Buehrle and Dye can walk...doesn't matter if the White Sox offer arbitration or not.

Vazquez can walk, but only if the White Sox don't offer arbitration.
Unless Iguchi had a clause in his contract like Matsui had where the Yankees must resign him by a certain date or release him, then the Sox own control over him for the three years after this year.

Unless of course, Iguchi just "retires" and goes back to Japan, which is his one major barganing chip.

Lillian
02-01-2007, 11:15 AM
Unless Iguchi had a clause in his contract like Matsui had where the Yankees must resign him by a certain date or release him, then the Sox own control over him for the three years after this year.

Unless of course, Iguchi just "retires" and goes back to Japan, which is his one major barganing chip.

Thanks for the clarification. That is exactly what I wanted to know.

caulfield12
02-01-2007, 12:02 PM
At the very least two of those four players will be playing elsewhere in 2008.
Vasquez is a lock to be gone after 2007. Take your pick with the remaining three.


Why would Vazquez be a lock? Replaced by whom, exactly? Another FA 4th/5th starter at $10-13 million per year.

If MB is actually gone, that would leave only Garland and an aging Contreras. It makes no sense to just let him go unless we are building for 2010 and 2011 and don't care about 2008.

caulfield12
02-01-2007, 12:05 PM
Thanks for the clarification. That is exactly what I wanted to know.

signed 2-year deal worth 4.95M on 1/27/05- he will make 2.325M in 2005 and 2.4M in 2006- + the deal includes a Team Option for 2007 worth 3.25M or a 250K buyout- + he can earn incentives: 50K for 400PA in 2005, 50K for 450PA, 50K for 500PA and 50K for 550PA- + bonuses he has earned: 200K for 550PA in 2005 and 150K for 500PA in 2006- + 2007 option worth $3.25M was EXERCISED by CHW on 10/30/06
Agent: Richard Moss

I've seen at least two recent articles that says he will be FA after 2007. I think, because he was asking for $5-7.5 million per season originally, he must have some kind of "out" in his contract so he wouldn't be forever trapped at a lower pay grade with only one more "legit" chance to get a pretty decent increase. Maybe someone can e-mail Richard Moss, lol?

Sad
02-01-2007, 12:24 PM
Therefore, I suppose the Spivey acquisition is simply insurance.

that's exactly what it is...

mshake10
02-02-2007, 12:07 AM
signed 2-year deal worth 4.95M on 1/27/05- he will make 2.325M in 2005 and 2.4M in 2006- + the deal includes a Team Option for 2007 worth 3.25M or a 250K buyout- + he can earn incentives: 50K for 400PA in 2005, 50K for 450PA, 50K for 500PA and 50K for 550PA- + bonuses he has earned: 200K for 550PA in 2005 and 150K for 500PA in 2006- + 2007 option worth $3.25M was EXERCISED by CHW on 10/30/06
Agent: Richard Moss

I've seen at least two recent articles that says he will be FA after 2007. I think, because he was asking for $5-7.5 million per season originally, he must have some kind of "out" in his contract so he wouldn't be forever trapped at a lower pay grade with only one more "legit" chance to get a pretty decent increase. Maybe someone can e-mail Richard Moss, lol?
Personally I'm interested in what Ichiro did in Seattle. I already mentioned Matsui. While numerous articles did say Iguchi would be a free agent, I never saw one where they explicitly stated this extra clause. Wouldn't it be hilarious if everyone, from reporters to Kenny himself, simply forgot that they have control for three more years?