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SoCalWhiteSoxFan
12-26-2006, 06:46 AM
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=118

Money Quote:

"There are also several trades in the works, including the long-rumored Randy Johnson (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=Randy+Johnson) to Arizona deal and one three-team deal that has three BIG names. Iím going to tease you with the last one because itís close enough that reporting it just might jinx it."

JohnTucker0814
12-26-2006, 09:25 AM
Bonds to Yankees
Arod to San Diego
Peavy to San Fran

haha

hose
12-26-2006, 10:12 AM
just wondering.....

Burles to St. Louis for Wainwright +

Crede to Angels for Santana +

pitching prospects + to Florida for Willis

Uribe + to Texas for Young

hose
12-26-2006, 10:24 AM
Uribe + to Texas for Young

Tekijawa
12-26-2006, 11:57 AM
just wondering.....

Burles to St. Louis for Wainwright +

Crede to Angels for Santana +

pitching prospects + to Florida for Willis

Uribe + to Texas for Young

That would be 5 teams involved right there... 5 is more than 3... I think?

hose
12-26-2006, 12:03 PM
That would be 5 teams involved right there... 5 is more than 3... I think?


take your pick

jabrch
12-26-2006, 12:25 PM
I'm still convinced that there will be an Alex Rodriguez trade before the offseason is over. The Yanks look to be dumping big salaries and old players to rebuild (Sheff, maybe RJ, Rodriguez wants out). They already have really rehabbed that farm system in the Detroit deal. I'm sure they'd get something solid in a RJ deal if they are willing to pick up some salary. It wouldn't suprise me still to see a Crede + maybe an prospect OF and a SP deal for Alex. Fields would play 3B and Rodriguez at SS.

wdelaney72
12-26-2006, 02:22 PM
I'm still convinced that there will be an Alex Rodriguez trade before the offseason is over. The Yanks look to be dumping big salaries and old players to rebuild (Sheff, maybe RJ, Rodriguez wants out). They already have really rehabbed that farm system in the Detroit deal. I'm sure they'd get something solid in a RJ deal if they are willing to pick up some salary. It wouldn't suprise me still to see a Crede + maybe an prospect OF and a SP deal for Alex. Fields would play 3B and Rodriguez at SS.

I completely agree.

sox1970
12-26-2006, 02:29 PM
I'm still convinced that there will be an Alex Rodriguez trade before the offseason is over. The Yanks look to be dumping big salaries and old players to rebuild (Sheff, maybe RJ, Rodriguez wants out). They already have really rehabbed that farm system in the Detroit deal. I'm sure they'd get something solid in a RJ deal if they are willing to pick up some salary. It wouldn't suprise me still to see a Crede + maybe an prospect OF and a SP deal for Alex. Fields would play 3B and Rodriguez at SS.

Arod would have to approve any trade. I think he wants to prove something in New York. I say he stays.

Fenway
12-26-2006, 02:44 PM
The NY Daily News is awash with RJ rumors

Yanks taking Randy offers
Randy Johnson's rocky stay in New York may be ending after two seasons. The Yankees are talking to several clubs about possibly trading Johnson and are inclined to make a deal, according to baseball officials. And it seems the first seeds for a trade were planted by Johnson himself.

FULL STORY (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/483266p-406772c.html)

Returning Johnson would be best present of all
Filip Bondy: Were there really several teams out there willing to excise Randy Johnson from the Bronx, to make his scowl and his ever-slowing fastball disappear? The very thought of such philanthropic organizations, of an amicable divorce here in New York from the Big Unit, was enough to bring smiles to children of all ages.

FULL STORY (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/483267p-406776c.html)

Oblong
12-26-2006, 03:04 PM
Does he have anything left? Especially at that salary.

soxtalker
12-26-2006, 03:15 PM
The NY Daily News is awash with RJ rumors

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Returning Johnson would be best present of all
Filip Bondy: Were there really several teams out there willing to excise Randy Johnson from the Bronx, to make his scowl and his ever-slowing fastball disappear? The very thought of such philanthropic organizations, of an amicable divorce here in New York from the Big Unit, was enough to bring smiles to children of all ages.

FULL STORY (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/483267p-406776c.html)

Very entertaining story. Strikes me as the sort of thing that the Yankees used to do all the time back in the 40's, 50's, and 60's -- trade off their aging stars and get some prospects in return.

jabrch
12-26-2006, 03:16 PM
Arod would have to approve any trade. I think he wants to prove something in New York. I say he stays.

I think he builds a story to make it sound good - but I think he'd leave if he could go to a contender, move back to SS, and have a chance to stick it to Derek Jeter.

Oblong
12-26-2006, 04:02 PM
An update:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?PHPSESSID=6bfaa956f2252e8f7065371c80bff4bd

The team is determined to find a solid bullpen and think they can do it with a series of deals that include LaRoche, Mike Gonzalez (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/player_search.php?search_name=Mike+Gonzalez), Andruw Jones, and several CF candidates that Iím told include Rocco Baldelli (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/baldero01.php), Curtis Granderson (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/grandcu01.php), and Nick Markakis (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/MARKAKIS19831117A.php). The deals appear to also have some other big names like Tim Hudson (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/hudsoti01.php), Mark Teixeira (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/teixema01.php), and Dontrelle Willis (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/willido03.php) on the periphery

Dombrowski's been after Markakis all off season.

UserNameBlank
12-26-2006, 06:22 PM
An update:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?PHPSESSID=6bfaa956f2252e8f7065371c80bff4bd


Dombrowski's been after Markakis all off season.

I'll paraphrase:

Somebody told me that there could be a three-team deal in the works, centering around Atlanta, that may lead to more deals later. Some of the names involved in this deal or in others that may follow this deal, which by the way is not as close as it once was, are Andruw Jones, Andy LaRoche, Mike Gonzalez, Rocco Baldelli, Curtis Granderson, Nick Markakis, Tim Hudson, Mark Teixeira, and Dontrelle Willis.

Jjav829
12-26-2006, 06:27 PM
An update:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?PHPSESSID=6bfaa956f2252e8f7065371c80bff4bd



Dombrowski's been after Markakis all off season.

So the Braves are going to trade away Andruw Jones, their only big bat in the lineup, for relief pitching? And this makes them better, how?

Yeah, I'm not buying. When was the last time, if ever, Will Carroll was right with one of these rumors?

Daver
12-26-2006, 06:32 PM
Yeah, I'm not buying. When was the last time, if ever, Will Carroll was right with one of these rumors?

I'm pretty sure he nailed the Babe Ruth being sold to the Yankees deal.

santo=dorf
12-26-2006, 06:50 PM
Yeah, I'm not buying. When was the last time, if ever, Will Carroll was right with one of these rumors?
He called the Mark Prior shoulder problems two weeks before the Cubs said there was nothing wrong, which was about two weeks before the Cubs admitted Prior had some shoulder issues.

He's been very good with his under the knife articles, but I'm not quite sure on straight rumor deals.

jabrch
12-26-2006, 07:14 PM
He's been very good with his under the knife articles, but I'm not quite sure on straight rumor deals.

Actually, Carroll is probably the most knowledgeable writer out there about baseball injuries. He is the best writer on BP when he sticks to his craft. When he starts talking about the game, and moves away from his sweet spot, he loses credibility very quickly.