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cbotnyse
11-20-2006, 01:20 PM
LINK (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061120&content_id=1743728&vkey=news_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi)

I think he deserved it. I guess there is some good news for Philly fans this week.

hi im skot
11-20-2006, 01:24 PM
Good for him.

He seems like an extremely likable guy...definitely good for baseball.



Congrats!

DaleJRFan
11-20-2006, 01:27 PM
Go Ryan! He deserves it.

SABRSox
11-20-2006, 02:10 PM
Great for Ryan. Class act, and was clearly the most deserving player.

PennStater98r
11-20-2006, 02:27 PM
I am glad for Howard, but I really do think this was Pujols' award.

If you were to look to the AL - Ortiz is the Howard of his league. However, he's not in serious discussion for MVP. Jeter will win it with "less impressive" number, and I can't say that I disagree with that. The same should be said of Pujols. Pujols is the better defensive player, the better base runner - and his team made the post season.

Again, I like Howard - he's a stand up guy, but I think the award belonged to Pujols (just like in 2001).

fquaye149
11-20-2006, 02:31 PM
Great for Ryan. Class act, and was clearly the most deserving player.

Good for him. I don't know how clear cut it was though.

avg/obp/ops..........hr/rbi/bb/sb/k.......win the gg?.......team won WS?

Player X=

.331/.431/1.102.......48/137/92/7/50......yes.......yes


Player Y=

.313/.425/1.084........58/149/108/0/181....not even close...didn't make playofffs


No way can you say player Y (have you figured out who he is?) DOESN'T deserve the MVP...but it's a pretty damned close call.

Beltran also has a very good case considering he's a gold glove CF. I bet his Wins over a replacement is a lot higher than either Howard or Pujols

SABRSox
11-20-2006, 02:59 PM
I think the difference between Howard and Beltran is that the Mets were good enough to win without Beltran. I wouldn't say the same about Philly.

As for Pujols, playing in the weak, weak NL Central did him in. Philly won more games this year than the Cardinals, and Ryan Howard was a big contributor to that.

tstrike2000
11-20-2006, 03:25 PM
As for Pujols, playing in the weak, weak NL Central did him in. Philly won more games this year than the Cardinals, and Ryan Howard was a big contributor to that.

Howard was deserving, but I could almost see Pujols as a co-winner. I only say this because Rolen and Edmonds had stints on the DL and Pujols put up these numbers after spending significant time on the DL himself. Without Pujols supporting their offense and terrible starting pitching outside of Carpenter, the Cardinals are a below .500 team.

thomas35forever
11-20-2006, 03:34 PM
Ryan is going to have a hell of a career. He deserves every bit of that.

RKMeibalane
11-20-2006, 03:50 PM
Congratulations Ryan! :cool:

palehozenychicty
11-20-2006, 03:53 PM
Much love goes out to Mr. Ryan Howard. A true player in the age of wanna bes.

MUsoxfan
11-20-2006, 03:58 PM
If you were to look to the AL - Ortiz is the Howard of his league. However, he's not in serious discussion for MVP.

That's an unfair comparison because Howard is an everyday position player. While maybe not as strong in the field as Pujols, he's certainly not a defensive hack.

FedEx227
11-20-2006, 04:22 PM
Exactly. While Ryan is definitely not a great defense, hes out there none-the-less and doesn't bring his team down defensively. Ortiz doesn't do anything besides walk up and swing.

I want Mags back
11-20-2006, 04:25 PM
thats good. i thought he was deserving

PKalltheway
11-20-2006, 06:40 PM
Despite the NL having a down year this year, it certainly wasn't a down year for MVP candidates in the NL. The award could have just as easily gone to Pujols. With that being said, congratulations to Ryan Howard for winning the MVP! Let's hope this is the first of many MVP battles between Howard and Pujols!:cool:

JimEdmonds15
11-20-2006, 07:20 PM
Congrats to Ryan for winning.. in the end I'm fine with a World Title over repeats of last year (CY AND MVP w/nothing)

ondafarm
11-20-2006, 09:48 PM
Congrats!!! Well-earned.

EastCoastSoxFan
11-21-2006, 08:01 AM
I was glad to hear that Howard won the award.
I'm always glad when the award goes to the player who was most VALUABLE to his team (or at least to someone for whom that case can legitimately be made -- **cough, Andre Dawson, cough**), not (necessarily) to the player who put up the best statistics.
There were many stretches in the '06 season when Ryan pretty damn near carried the entire Phillies offense on his back. Without his production they would have finished in what used to be called the second division.
Not only that, Howard is rapidly earning a reputation as one of the all-around good guys in baseball...

JimEdmonds15
11-21-2006, 12:44 PM
[/URL]'He was our MVP'
Howard was great, but Cards will still take Pujols

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20061028/i/r1863387815.jpg

St. Louis (AP) -- Albert Pujols has often said he would trade individual awards to win a World Series. So the St. Louis Cardinals were not too upset on Monday that their star finished second in the MVP balloting behind the Phillies' Ryan Howard.

"Well, Howard had a great year, Albert had a great year, and it came down to the voters," reliever Josh Hancock said. "He was our MVP."

Chairman Bill DeWitt Jr. said voters might have been swayed by Howard's power numbers. He had 58 home runs, the most in the majors since Barry Bonds hit a record 73 in 2001, and 149 RBIs to go with a .313 average.

"It could have gone either way," DeWitt said. "Howard had such a wonderful year, but Albert had a fabulous year and was on a division champion and a World Champion."

Pujols hit .331 with 49 homers and 137 RBIs and was second in the balloting for the third time in five years, also finishing behind Bonds in 2002 and '03. Stan Musial and Ted Williams, who each finished second four times, are the only players to be runner-up more often than Pujols.

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