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Fenway
11-04-2006, 07:34 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6134556

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) - Pedro Martinez is recovering well from an operation on his right shoulder but said Friday he would consider retiring if he does not return to full strength.

LuvSox
11-05-2006, 12:13 AM
Hey! Look at me! I said something!

:rolleyes:

fquaye149
11-05-2006, 02:05 AM
it's because the midget died isn't it:(:

SOXPHILE
11-06-2006, 12:37 PM
Bye bye, scumbag. Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

itsnotrequired
11-06-2006, 01:12 PM
Geez, what's with all the hate?

Craig Grebeck
11-06-2006, 02:52 PM
I will never understand why people hate Pedro so vehemently. Hopefully everyone agrees he's a first ballot HOF even if he retires today.

fquaye149
11-06-2006, 04:15 PM
The numbers show he was as dominant a pitcher as Koufax, and in an era when pitching, on the whole, was not very good at all (juiced ball). Compare that to Koufax's era with the wide strike zone and high mound. Not trying to tear down Koufax---I love Koufax. Just trying to point out how fortunate we were to see Pedro pitch.

firejoemorgan (http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com/2006/08/give-me-c-give-me-h-give-me-a-give-me.html)
Pedro:
1999: 245 ERA+, .923 WHIP, 313 K's in 213 IP
2000: 285 ERA+, .737 WHIP, 284 K's in 217 IP

Koufax:
1965: 160 ERA+, .855 WHIP, 382K's in 335 IP
1966: 190 ERA+, .985 WHIP, 317 K's in 323 IP


for those who hate the sabrmetric statistics (myself included)

mister irrelevant (http://journals.aol.com/dcsportsguy/mrirrelevant/entries/2004/11/24/pedro-vs.-koufax/747)
Pedro’s lifetime numbers – 182-76, 2.71 ERA, 2,653 Ks – are better than Sandy’s – 165-87, 2.76 ERA, 2,396 Ks – and especially so considering the average league ERAs during their careers – 4.71 and 3.63, respectively. As for accolades, they each won three Cy Youngs and five ERA titles

Koufax supporters have never spouted off about his career totals, rather they point to his amazing run from ’63-’66 when he averaged 24 wins, 307 Ks and a 1.86 ERA. These four years seem favorable toPedro’s finest -- ’97-’00, when he averaged 19 wins, 288 Ks and a 2.23 ERA -- but upon considering the offensiveness of the eras and the # of games started and innings pitched, it's too close to call.

Fenway
11-06-2006, 04:19 PM
The numbers show he was as dominant a pitcher as Koufax, and in an era when pitching, on the whole, was not very good at all (juiced ball). Compare that to Koufax's era with the wide strike zone and high mound. Not trying to tear down Koufax---I love Koufax. Just trying to point out how fortunate we were to see Pedro pitch.

firejoemorgan (http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com/2006/08/give-me-c-give-me-h-give-me-a-give-me.html)

for those who hate the sabrmetric statistics (myself included)

mister irrelevant (http://journals.aol.com/dcsportsguy/mrirrelevant/entries/2004/11/24/pedro-vs.-koufax/747)

and don't forget Pedro had to deal with the DH which makes his numbers just that more stunning.

SouthSide_HitMen
11-06-2006, 05:17 PM
and don't forget Pedro had to deal with the DH which makes his numbers just that more stunning.

Not to mention the fact that Fenway Park is a much more difficult park to pitch in than Dodgers Stadium, one of the most pitching friendly parks in all of baseball.

I would hope he comes back 100% next year even if I wasn't a Mets fan. He is one of the greatest pitchers ever and is one of the few players who alone is worth the price of admission.

Godspeed Pedro.

That is bad news about Pedro's friend which is made worse by the fact he will be stuffed and displayed at a museum (http://cbs4boston.com/local/local_story_296065220.html). :o:

Love the Tecmo Bowl (http://www.gamecritics.com/feature/greatgame/tecmobowl/page01.php) sig!