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tony1972
10-19-2006, 10:28 AM
A.The Fan Deck
B. Fundamentals
C. Green Seats
D. Scout Seats
E. Upper Deck
F. Concourse Remodeling
G. Other..

For me it was the Fan Deck (until they started restricting general fans from entering during games and opened it to private parties)..but I have to say it's the green seats (really changes the whole feel of the ballpark) or the upper deck roof (makes the park seem more friendly and inviting)..

jenn2080
10-19-2006, 10:29 AM
Them removing the UFO looking top. I go with everything though.

Max Power
10-19-2006, 10:53 AM
The upper deck, since I sit up there most often. It's not perfect, but it was signficantly improved in every way.

thegooch
10-19-2006, 10:54 AM
the green seats. The fundamentals area would be cool, if they started selling seats up there.

skottyj242
10-19-2006, 10:56 AM
All of the above except for the Fundamentals. I hate the fact that I can't see the scoreboard from my seat.

itsnotrequired
10-19-2006, 10:57 AM
Tough to say since they all play off each other. The roof is probably the best one but without green seats, the roof would look a little goofy.

tebman
10-19-2006, 10:59 AM
The upper deck. It's improved the whole feel of the place (and not coincidentally makes it more like its ancestor, Old Comiskey Park).

All the renovations have been good, but the UD has been the best. :thumbsup:

Mr.1Dog
10-19-2006, 11:00 AM
the green seats. The fundamentals area would be cool, if they started selling seats up there.

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the fundamentals area? I say leave it as is and don't add seats. It is a great addition to the park along with the newly designed concourses. The scout seats are my favorite. I have sat down there once and everything about it made the experience of the park great.

tony1972
10-19-2006, 11:01 AM
I forgot the most important one (not necessarily a renovation)..

My # 1 - The World Series banner by far...every Sox game I go to for the rest of my life will remind me of my all time favorite baseball season..

esbrechtel
10-19-2006, 11:02 AM
no poll?:?: i personally like the look of the green instead of the blue everywhere....the park looks nicer now

skottyj242
10-19-2006, 11:17 AM
no poll?:?: i personally like the look of the green instead of the blue everywhere....the park looks nicer now

I can't wait to be the first to ever sit in my seat next season.

chisoxmike
10-19-2006, 11:20 AM
-The chop-off job of the upper deck and new roof.
-Fan deck
-New bullpens (2001)

batmanZoSo
10-19-2006, 11:21 AM
I'd definitely say the roof/upper deck because it fixes the only thing I ever thought was fundamentally bad about the park. It looks much more attractive from the outside and inside, looks less imposing, feels more secure up there because of not only the roof overhang but the reduced amount of rows. To me that alone is 80% of the quality of all renovations and they could have just done that and it would've been a big success. Although all the renovations have added something. The concourses are much, much better than they used to be, I'd put that in second.

Hangar18
10-19-2006, 11:21 AM
Using real bricks on the concourse is probably the move that had the most impact. Changed the concourse from looking like a Parking Lot with the Industrial (and painted lol) Concrete Blocks, to a warm and colorful place to look at.

The ROOF is a close second. Cant tell you how the ornamental black framework, along with painting the outfield trusses black to match, made the park look more sensible.

nasox
10-19-2006, 11:27 AM
This one goes unnoticed but had a dramatic change on the background of the park. The staining of the concrete and the painting of the latticework in the outfield grey. The park was just so new and sterile before, and this gave it some character and some death. Very important choice. You can include the repainting of all things blue as well.

Hangar18
10-19-2006, 11:37 AM
This one goes unnoticed but had a dramatic change on the background of the park. The staining of the concrete and the painting of the latticework in the outfield grey. The park was just so new and sterile before, and this gave it some character and some death. Very important choice. You can include the repainting of all things blue as well.


YES, I agree wholeheartedly. I was sick of seeing bland exposed concrete. Painting everything to our colors was an excellent idea (I wanted them to just put bricks over it)

Baby Fisk
10-19-2006, 11:54 AM
The roof is very nice.

CaptainBallz
10-19-2006, 12:09 PM
1) The "Home of the 2005 World Champions" sign :bandance:

2) The upper deck

3) Green Seats (upon completion)

4) More canned music

tony1972
10-19-2006, 12:16 PM
Also - the planting of the vegetation around the batter's eye area makes the outfield part look much better on TV and from the box seats (instead of the black background)..

I forgot how many different things have been done to the park..I recently looked at some pictures I had from 1991 and it looks completely different...

Mr.1Dog
10-19-2006, 12:18 PM
The removal of the huge Viagra sign in the outfield.

35th&Shields
10-19-2006, 12:32 PM
I'd definitely say the roof/upper deck because it fixes the only thing I ever thought was fundamentally bad about the park. It looks much more attractive from the outside and inside, looks less imposing, feels more secure up there because of not only the roof overhang but the reduced amount of rows. To me that alone is 80% of the quality of all renovations and they could have just done that and it would've been a big success. Although all the renovations have added something. The concourses are much, much better than they used to be, I'd put that in second.

I agree. The scaling back of the rows combined with the roof overhang and iron work is much more attractive and makes the inside of the park feel more "contained", instead of being a wide open space expanding to the heavens like how it originally was.

The green seats will be pretty cool, too. The only thing worse than the blue seats was the blue/green mish-mash that we had this year. Unified green seats combined with everything else maximizes the potential of the park.

I would guess the next big change will be a new scoreboard and the selling/leasing of some of the parking lot spaces for bars/restaurants. That land is getting to valuable not to be used.

KMKsuburbannoise
10-19-2006, 01:47 PM
I really like both the green seats and the upper deck. It looks more like a ball park now. does that make sense? before it looked more like jail cell instead of the cell.

miker
10-19-2006, 03:50 PM
1) The "Home of the 2005 World Champions" sign :bandance:

2) The upper deck

3) Green Seats (upon completion)


I second all of these, now if we could only clone Nancy...:(:

C-Dawg
10-19-2006, 04:00 PM
Them removing the UFO looking top.

Even just driving by on the Dan Ryan, the ballpark looks so much nicer with the reconfigured upper deck. The roof and those translucent panels are a huge improvement.

batmanZoSo
10-19-2006, 04:12 PM
Also - the planting of the vegetation around the batter's eye area makes the outfield part look much better on TV and from the box seats (instead of the black background)..

I forgot how many different things have been done to the park..I recently looked at some pictures I had from 1991 and it looks completely different...

It really does and because the change happened gradually, it's hard to remember that it did look much different until you look at a pic from 1991. Each year since 2000 has kind of a distinct look and I can tell what year a picture was since then by the color of the fence, renovations in place, etc. Which is why I considered buying a 2005 WS plaque, but opted not to because the shot of the park was from 2003. :rolleyes:

tony1972
10-19-2006, 04:36 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:8vNvS6292sPpxM:http://www.minorleagueballparks.com/comisk.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.minorleagueballparks.com/comisk.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.minorleagueballparks.com/majors.html&h=498&w=750&sz=76&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=8vNvS6292sPpxM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnew%2Bcomiskey%2Bpark%26svnum%3D10%26 hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG)

Here you go..the flying saucer has landed, April 1991..:(:

chisoxfanatic
10-19-2006, 08:58 PM
The fan deck has an amazing view of the field. Its beauty has no rivals.

ilsox7
10-19-2006, 09:01 PM
Even though I've never been there, it is without a doubt FUNdamentals. The focus on the kids is EXTREMELY important as it will create a loyal fan base for years and years to come. Kids want to go to a ballgame and see some baseball and have some fun. Do that for them and they are won over forever. The Sox are on the right track.

RadioheadRocks
10-19-2006, 09:14 PM
In addition to everything else that's been talked about, I also like how most of those generic blue signs for all the sections were replaced with those cool signs featuring White Sox logos throughout the years... very classy! I also love the murals on the outfield walls with all the White Sox players (and Jackie Robinson) whose numbers have been retired... WAY cool!!! :bandance:

rookie
10-19-2006, 10:08 PM
Even though I've never been there, it is without a doubt FUNdamentals. The focus on the kids is EXTREMELY important as it will create a loyal fan base for years and years to come. Kids want to go to a ballgame and see some baseball and have some fun. Do that for them and they are won over forever. The Sox are on the right track.

This is definitely my favorite part as well. Especially for the kids who are not die-hard baseball fans (future bandwagoners:smile: ). My cousins are diehard baskebtall fans and my little sis from BBBS is HYPER. They are enthralled with the size of a major league stadium, but asking them to sit through 9 innings of a game they barely understand is a bit much. But the Fundamentals Deck + some eats + 1 or 2 homerun fireworks=Sox fan.

The best part is that the deck is fun without being hooky or amusement parkish. The kids are ACTIVE which is hard in the era of video games and computers. There are some kids who have never swung a bat or fielded grounders or worn a mitt until they go to the Fundamentals Deck.

On a side note, my students are writing personal narratives (and working on focusing their topics). One of my students not only "zoomed in" on a Sox game for his narrative about a special place, but he zoomed in on the Fundamentals Deck and even more specifically on racing Scott Podsednick. I must say it was quite the A-worthy paper right down to the "crashing into the giant mitt." Not that I'm biased or anything.

pinwheels3530
10-20-2006, 12:26 AM
The new roof, the greening of the ballpark & the fan deck area with statues of Minnie, Carlton etc...

DaleJRFan
10-20-2006, 03:29 AM
World Series Champions banner, for obvious reasons... :cool:

C-Dawg
10-20-2006, 05:36 AM
The fan deck has an amazing view of the field. Its beauty has no rivals.

Aw, man, where's the love for the blue corrugated metal they used to have there before?

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5595/score3qy5.jpg

Oh, well, at least everyone could see the clock!

ws05champs
10-20-2006, 08:44 AM
Although it's not really a renovation, my favorite is the mural that winds around the entire inner wall of the upper deck concourse. I never get tired of looking at it. The only problem is they left no room for future additions.

rdwj
10-20-2006, 09:02 AM
I like the brickwork. That did a lot to warm up the parkh

October26
10-20-2006, 09:02 AM
I've enjoyed seeing all the pictures posted by others on this thread. It is amazing how the park has changed over the years and especially since 2000.

My favorite renovations are:

the fan deck
the statues of Comiskey, Fisk etc that are out in Center Field. I think the sculptures add a nice touch to the Park.
The 2005 World Series Champions bannerTalking about the Park makes me miss Sox baseball even more. Can't wait for Opening Day, 2007!

thomas35forever
10-20-2006, 05:06 PM
The fan deck, the moving of the fundamentals area, and the sealed upper deck concourse.

Rockman218
10-20-2006, 07:53 PM
I can't wait to be the first to ever sit in my seat next season.
Unless some a hole gets to the game before you and trys to play it off as his seat

DumpJerry
10-20-2006, 10:35 PM
My favorite renovation? The team that was fielded in 2005!:bandance: :supernana: :bandance: :supernana:

MrRoboto83
10-20-2006, 10:46 PM
Maybe not a renovation but a salvation

7:11 start time.

3rdgensoxfan
10-21-2006, 09:38 PM
I would concur with others here that all of the changes combined completely changed the feel of the park. So many changes have been made, its often difficult to remember them all. Also, the effect has been spread out over the last seven or so seasons so they blend together well. If you want to see the changes in the park over time, watch TV coverage next year during the Crosstown Series. They will show highlights from each year and you will get to see the general change in ambiance of the park since they began renovations. This past year, I saw that and this is when I first noticed how dramatic the collective whole of changes has been.

paciorek1983
10-22-2006, 12:44 AM
Aw, man, where's the love for the blue corrugated metal they used to have there before?

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5595/score3qy5.jpg

Oh, well, at least everyone could see the clock!


I wish the scoreboard still looked like this photo.

As for the renovations, I say the roof and the green seats. But in reality, I have liked all of the renovations. I would prefer a black stain or brickwork or black metalwork on the concrete instead of the gray though.

digdagdug23
10-22-2006, 10:37 AM
Even though I've never been there, it is without a doubt FUNdamentals. The focus on the kids is EXTREMELY important as it will create a loyal fan base for years and years to come. Kids want to go to a ballgame and see some baseball and have some fun. Do that for them and they are won over forever. The Sox are on the right track.

Yep yep. It is the highlight of their day when my kids visit the park. The last game we attended with the boys, ages 8 & 12, they spent almost the entire day there and loved every minute. If you can give a child a memory like that, you have hooked them for life.

Cellview22
10-22-2006, 10:52 AM
I think the FUNdamentals deck was a brilliant idea. I try to get up there every game I attend, just for the view and the atmosphere up there, it's great!

Apparently though it's not obvious to everyone in the park that it's accessible from the 500 level. I had never thought about this before until some friends of mine recently attended their first game with a handful of kids, all stuck in the upper deck. They sat on the opposite side, right field, near the top.

Next day I asked if they enjoyed the Fundamentals area, and the dad said they weren't allowed access to the 100 level, so they couldn't access the Fundamentals deck. :o: He said the kids were devastated that they couldn't go hang out there.
They had no clue that they could've just walked through the 500 level concourse right over to the top of the Fundamentals.
I imagine many others have thought the same, while sitting in the upper deck. Maybe Brooks & Co. or whoever's in charge needs to somehow make it more obvious that you can access the Fundamentals deck from the 500 level.

C-Dawg
10-22-2006, 01:57 PM
I wish the scoreboard still looked like this photo.



Yes I do too. There probably is room for the box score, balls/strikes, pitch speed, etc, plus the new bigger video board, but it would squeeze out some of the ads.

BTW I'm not sure if it was mentioned before, but one of the little things I like are all the nice ornamental lights/planters out in the outfield concourse. They are a big improvement over the white-painted suburban strip-mall streetlights they had there before.

tick53
10-22-2006, 07:38 PM
I like the green seats because it makes it look more like a ballpark should and it's better for television. BTW Tony, come up with a new sig please. I've had this noe a while.

Big Sandwich
10-22-2006, 08:58 PM
I vote for Fundamentals, it gives you a perfect view of the field\left field line and you can access it from 500 level

AZChiSoxFan
10-24-2006, 11:27 AM
I would have to say the green seats. The stadium will look great when they're done in 20??

Jerome
10-24-2006, 11:51 AM
The 7-11 Starting times and the world series flags / banners

I think once they are 100% complete the green seats will look great. But my favorite is the removing top of the upper deck and making it look good, not like the ugly football stadium top it reminded me of

Bruizer
10-24-2006, 12:35 PM
I think once they are 100% complete the green seats will look great. But my favorite is the removing top of the upper deck and making it look good, not like the ugly football stadium top it reminded me of

I agree. Not only does it look a lot better, but the elimination of the upper 8 rows helped to reduce the upper level congestion.

Bru

IronFisk
10-24-2006, 01:07 PM
Fundamentals. Now my 8-year old has something to do.

skobabe8
10-24-2006, 04:54 PM
I think the FUNdamentals deck was a brilliant idea. I try to get up there every game I attend, just for the view and the atmosphere up there, it's great!

Apparently though it's not obvious to everyone in the park that it's accessible from the 500 level. I had never thought about this before until some friends of mine recently attended their first game with a handful of kids, all stuck in the upper deck. They sat on the opposite side, right field, near the top.

Next day I asked if they enjoyed the Fundamentals area, and the dad said they weren't allowed access to the 100 level, so they couldn't access the Fundamentals deck. :o: He said the kids were devastated that they couldn't go hang out there.
They had no clue that they could've just walked through the 500 level concourse right over to the top of the Fundamentals.
I imagine many others have thought the same, while sitting in the upper deck. Maybe Brooks & Co. or whoever's in charge needs to somehow make it more obvious that you can access the Fundamentals deck from the 500 level.

Wow, that sucks. Too bad your friends didnt ask someone. We take for granted the knowledge we posses about USCF that other people are still figuring out.

My favorite is the new attention to detail vs lack thereof prior to the renovations. Someone mentioned the signs listing the section numbers having old sox logos. Also the logos on the seats, the retro light fixtures on the concourse above ads, the brick, etc.

Hitmen77
10-25-2006, 08:10 AM
I think all the renovations are great. IMO, the upper deck fix with new roof has had the biggest impact on improving the look of the park both inside and out. Overall, I really can't say enough about how great of a job they did with ALL the renovations. Seriously, anyone here expect them to turn out as well as they did? I thought they'd be nice, but I wasn't expected them to be this wildly successful.

It is also important to note that the renovations have been wildly successful in changing the PERCEPTION of the ballpark. I thought the ballpark was nice before the changes, but image it had was like an albatros around the neck of the Sox franchise. I am very much pleasantly surprised that they were not only able to make great changes to the park, but they were able to pull off an about-face in the general public's perception of the ballpark.
The timing of the renovations with the World Series title last year couldn't have been better. Immediately after finishing the changes, the Sox win it all and are able to bring in 3 million people who can see for themselves how great the park is.

lakeviewsoxfan
10-25-2006, 10:55 AM
Roof
Fan Deck
Green Seats
No more Blue