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NSSoxFan
10-10-2006, 11:29 PM
From the NY Times...

No more 7:05 p.m. or 7:35 p.m. games at U.S. Cellular Field. They will all begin, for the next three seasons, at 7:11 p.m., courtesy of 7-Eleven.
Is this true??

Link (http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/11/sports/baseball/11sox.html&OQ=_rQ3D1&OP=77a8a9a0Q2FQ20Q2FJQ23Q20Hl_Ozll%29-Q20-SSQ3BQ20PSQ20PPQ20O%21lz%29OQ20Q23ZOJQ23ZccQ20PPOl Q5BBk%29ec)

Fenway
10-10-2006, 11:34 PM
From the NY Times...


Is this true??

Link (http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/11/sports/baseball/11sox.html&OQ=_rQ3D1&OP=77a8a9a0Q2FQ20Q2FJQ23Q20Hl_Ozll%29-Q20-SSQ3BQ20PSQ20PPQ20O%21lz%29OQ20Q23ZOJQ23ZccQ20PPOl Q5BBk%29ec)

7-11 is paying the White Sox 500K for the rights

There are, by the way, 185 7-Elevens in the area; the company recently acquired 202 local stores from the White Hen Pantry chain, which prompted 7-Eleven’s desire to increase its presence in what it views as a growth market. “It made sense to sponsor the White Sox,” Chabris said.

CubsfansareDRUNK
10-10-2006, 11:38 PM
??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :?::o::o::?:

lumpyspun
10-10-2006, 11:40 PM
Great marketing idea for 7/11...not so much for our Sox

Palehose13
10-10-2006, 11:41 PM
Interseting tidbit but nothing to get worked up about unless you guys are worried about leaving 6 minutes later. :dunno:

Fenway
10-10-2006, 11:45 PM
It also answers the question on if 7-11 planned to leave White Hen alone...

White Hen is also in the Boston market dating back to when Jewel owned the Star Market chain in New England....sigh goodbye deli sandwiches

For nearly 40 years White Hen has served as one of the premier convenience retailers in metropolitan Chicago and greater Boston. White Hen´s 275 stores serve more than a quarter million customers each day with a full line of distinctive products including national brands, fresh sliced-to-order deli items, custom-crafted sandwiches, fresh salads, gourmet soup, the country's best coffee, blended smoothies and shakes, artisan bakery items and more.

Jerome
10-10-2006, 11:45 PM
:D: :rolleyes: :tongue:

That's pretty funny actually. Makes more sense to me than the 4th inning being "The Taco Bell 4th Meal 4th Inning"

chaerulez
10-10-2006, 11:47 PM
This is just plain goofy.

Martinigirl
10-10-2006, 11:55 PM
It also answers the question on if 7-11 planned to leave White Hen alone...

White Hen is also in the Boston market dating back to when Jewel owned the Star Market chain in New England....sigh goodbye deli sandwiches

The deli sandwiches at White Hen are one thing, but there are some things that should not be sold outside of a restaurant. I remember running into a 7/11 on Irving, and it sold sushi. There is no way in the world I am eating sushi that was being sold within 10 feet of a slurpee machine.

And as far as the time change, I dont think the 6 minute difference will really effect anyone. But it is interesting to note after telling us that the 7:35 late start on Friday's was done for the fans dealing the the Ryan traffic, and then asking season ticket holders their opinions on start times, the Sox just sold the right to alter the time for the season.

Chicago
10-10-2006, 11:55 PM
maybe our ticketbacks will get us free slurpies :D:

Fenway
10-10-2006, 11:59 PM
The deli sandwiches at White Hen are one thing, but there are some things that should not be sold outside of a restaurant. I remember running into a 7/11 on Irving, and it sold sushi. There is no way in the world I am eating sushi that was being sold within 10 feet of a slurpee machine.


The most disgusting food item on the planet has to be the 7-11 "Big Un"...you have to be drunk to buy one and then microwave it

not that I would know such things

FARMEO
10-11-2006, 12:02 AM
Really good deal for 7-11, the price they paid is cheap for all of that marketing.

Martinigirl
10-11-2006, 12:06 AM
The most disgusting food item on the planet has to be the 7-11 "Big Un"...you have to be drunk to buy one and then microwave it

not that I would know such things

I might regret asking, but what is it?

Myrtle72
10-11-2006, 12:06 AM
I would imagine it's a good deal for everyone involved. 7-11 gets all this bizarre attention even though it means pretty much nothing... and the Sox get a little extra cash for well, pretty much nothing. :D:

Fenway
10-11-2006, 12:16 AM
I might regret asking, but what is it?

it is one of their freeze-dried bugers that you zap in the microwave :?:

MUsoxfan
10-11-2006, 12:18 AM
Really good deal for 7-11, the price they paid is cheap for all of that marketing.


500k seems cheap for advertising to 35k fans 82 times a year.

I actually like the 6 minute bump for some reason

getonbckthr
10-11-2006, 12:24 AM
So essentially 7/11 is paying for Hermanson's buyout thank you 7/11.

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 12:26 AM
What dumb ****ing **** is this? My god, everything can now be bought. This is going to be a LAUGHING STOCK!!! Worse than the Bud Lite Bleachers.

LuvSox
10-11-2006, 12:27 AM
Who sponsors the 4:20 weekend games? :smokin:

GregoryEtc
10-11-2006, 12:28 AM
And in related news, Target is sponsoring every time AJ is hit by a pitch.

anewman35
10-11-2006, 06:36 AM
What dumb ****ing **** is this? My god, everything can now be bought. This is going to be a LAUGHING STOCK!!! Worse than the Bud Lite Bleachers.

It's free money, and every bit helps when it comes to increasing payroll or making renovations.

The Dude
10-11-2006, 07:00 AM
What dumb ****ing **** is this? My god, everything can now be bought. This is going to be a LAUGHING STOCK!!! Worse than the Bud Lite Bleachers.


Come on Mike! This is no big deal. It deserves a Meh. Just think....we get 6 more minutes of drinking at the tailgate before gametime! It'll also help pay a roster player as well.

jenn2080
10-11-2006, 07:03 AM
Come on Mike! This is no big deal. It deserves a Meh. Just think....we get 6 more minutes of drinking at the tailgate before gametime! It'll also help pay a roster player as well.


Ya it is not that big of deal. It is lame but whatever. The Friday start time though was the best.

TomBradley72
10-11-2006, 07:06 AM
Who sponsors the 4:20 weekend games? :smokin:

Domino's Pizza :cool:

itsnotrequired
10-11-2006, 07:11 AM
Come on Mike! This is no big deal. It deserves a Meh. Just think....we get 6 more minutes of drinking at the tailgate before gametime! It'll also help pay a roster player as well.

Six glorious minutes...

I'd rather see no advertising for anything but it helps keep ticket prices down and payroll up. Whatever.

DumpJerry
10-11-2006, 07:34 AM
I'm gonna miss those 7:35 Friday starts. Made my Friday more relaxing-did not have to rush out of the office. Sigh.

"Oh thank Heaven for 7-11....."

Frontman
10-11-2006, 07:38 AM
There is no way in the world I am eating sushi that was being sold within 10 feet of a slurpee machine.

I think that's just a general rule to live by; its almost sig worthy.

:wink:

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Thome25
10-11-2006, 07:39 AM
What dumb ****ing **** is this? My god, everything can now be bought. This is going to be a LAUGHING STOCK!!! Worse than the Bud Lite Bleachers.

What's the big deal anyway? They're getting $500,000 to start the games 6 minutes later?

I think it's a shrewd business move. Who really cares if the games start at 7:11PM as long as WE WIN A MAJORITY OF OUR GAMES?

DumpJerry
10-11-2006, 07:42 AM
There is no way in the world I am eating sushi that was being sold within 10 feet of a slurpee machine.
There's only one place in Chicago for sushi-it's at Division and Wood (Sandy Alomar, jr. loves the place, BTW).

No Slurpee machines there!

Thome25
10-11-2006, 07:43 AM
The Sox are actually getting 1.5MM over the next three years.

The deal was for $500,000 a year for the next three years. Good move!!

the gooch
10-11-2006, 07:51 AM
The Sox are actually getting 1.5MM over the next three years.

The deal was for $500,000 a year for the next three years. Good move!!
They are getting more than that. 7-11 will also buy air time.
I don't think they even have to say, "this 7:11 game time is brought to you by 7/11."

roylestillman
10-11-2006, 07:56 AM
Sounds like I just got time for another brat in the parking lot.

SouthSide_HitMen
10-11-2006, 07:58 AM
http://www.kingnicholas.com/@/larry.jpg

Reinsdorf, not only would you sell your own mother to make a deal, you'd send her C.O.D.

-Sir Larry Wildman, 1987 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094291/fullcredits)

Max Power
10-11-2006, 09:10 AM
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cringe at this.
Money is good, and the time difference is negligible so ultimately it's a good thing.

I want Mags back
10-11-2006, 09:39 AM
that is just hysterical.

Steelrod
10-11-2006, 09:46 AM
The Sox are actually getting 1.5MM over the next three years.

The deal was for $500,000 a year for the next three years. Good move!!
Hopefully it will slow the ticket increases, then I'm all for it!

Kuzman
10-11-2006, 09:47 AM
Hey that gives me an extra 6 minutes to get here from the North Side!

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 09:48 AM
Hopefully it will slow the ticket increases, then I'm all for it!

It didn't, ticket prices shot up for 2007. That's what my problem is. I'm all about later start times, I wish all the games started at 7:30.

Where's this money going to go, payroll? Yay! An extra $500,000.

Soxfest
10-11-2006, 10:00 AM
ESPN will not schedule Sox with a stupid 7:11 start time, before you say so what not everyone in a 90 mile radius of Chicago has access to Comcast sport net.

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 10:08 AM
ESPN will not schedule Sox with a stupid 7:11 start time, before you say so what not everyone in a 90 mile radius of Chicago has access to Comcast sport net.

Actually, when a game gets on ESPN, the start time is moved to 7:07pm so ESPN probably won't care too much, it would just give their "experts" more time to talk.

jenn2080
10-11-2006, 10:13 AM
Hopefully it will slow the ticket increases, then I'm all for it!


Why would it? That makes no sense.

Jerko
10-11-2006, 10:13 AM
7-11 huh? Maybe next they'll just be open 24 hours a day and we can go to the Cell whenever we want.

SoxFan78
10-11-2006, 10:15 AM
It didn't, ticket prices shot up for 2007. That's what my problem is. I'm all about later start times, I wish all the games started at 7:30.

Where's this money going to go, payroll? Yay! An extra $500,000.

So they moved the game up 19 minutes on Fridays? Hardly something to get upset about if the sox are gaining a extra 500K per year

Palehose13
10-11-2006, 10:18 AM
So they moved the game up 19 minutes on Fridays? Hardly something to get upset about if the sox are gaining a extra 500K per year

For some people (not just mike) bitching and moaning is a hobby.

CaptainBallz
10-11-2006, 10:19 AM
:D: :rolleyes: :tongue:

That's pretty funny actually. Makes more sense to me than the 4th inning being "The Taco Bell 4th Meal 4th Inning"

Which reminds me Anybody that eats 3 squares a day, then decides to go out at 2am and get a "4th meal" from Taco Bell is a fat bastard.
Between inventing the word "melty" and now "fourth meal", I want to assasinate Taco Bell's marketing department.

Anyway, 500k does seem pretty paltry considering the number of mentions 7/11 will get. It would be good to know exactly what the money is going towards.

batmanZoSo
10-11-2006, 10:20 AM
What dumb ****ing **** is this? My god, everything can now be bought. This is going to be a LAUGHING STOCK!!! Worse than the Bud Lite Bleachers.

Who cares?

It's an extra 6 minutes to get settled in. I could've used those minutes on a few occasions.

It's just a little subilminal advertising.

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 10:24 AM
So they moved the game up 19 minutes on Fridays? Hardly something to get upset about if the sox are gaining a extra 500K per year



Ugh, games were 7:30 on Fridays in 2006, in 2007 they are all now 7:11pm. I don't care about moving of the times, I just think the Sox should've held out for more money. $500,000 is nothing. Where's the money going to go... to the fans with no increased ticket prices, no increase in food & drink prices... HA!

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 10:28 AM
For some people (not just mike) bitching and moaning is a hobby.


:tongue:

I just want to know where the money is going. If it goes back to the fans great, if its going to fund green paint to dump over the park or add lights to the upper deck then its lame. We'll see I guess.

Palehose13
10-11-2006, 10:34 AM
:tongue:

I just want to know where the money is going. If it goes back to the fans great, if its going to fund green paint to dump over the park or add lights to the upper deck then its lame. We'll see I guess.

Now see, I liked those last two posts where you actually added something instead of just complained. I knew you had it in you, mike! :wink:

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 10:36 AM
Now see, I liked those last two posts where you actually added something instead of just complained. I knew you had it in you, mike! :wink:

:bandance:

I like to skip the "step back and think about first" step sometimes.:D:

Hitmen77
10-11-2006, 10:40 AM
Really good deal for 7-11, the price they paid is cheap for all of that marketing.

I does sound like a good deal for 7-11. Though it sounds like it's an extra $500k on top of what 7-11 is already agreeing to pay for sponsorship.

Too bad the Sox couldn't squeeze more out of this part of the deal. More revenue means more flexibility to spend on getting the players we need.

Hitmen77
10-11-2006, 10:48 AM
....actually I re-read the article and the $500k is only for setting the start time at 7:11. They don't have to mention the convenience store at all for this part of the deal. 7-11 is paying more in addition to this $500k for the rest of their sponsorship (getting their name mentioned, etc.)

And, $500,000 annually was added to the overall deal with 7-Eleven.

Dan Migala, the publisher of a sports marketing newsletter, said there was little apparent downside to the time change. “Whether they like it or not, all the media outlets will have to say, ‘The game time is 7:11,’ ” he said. “And you’re not talking about a change that inconveniences anyone.”

kevingrt
10-11-2006, 10:58 AM
Who cares?

It's an extra 6 minutes to get settled in. I could've used those minutes on a few occasions.

It's just a little subilminal advertising.


I agree, i actually thinks its a little funny.

Myrtle72
10-11-2006, 11:02 AM
I just heard them mention it on ESPN (people on Cold Pizza) a few minutes ago and this was said,

"The White Sox won the 2005 World Series and despite this, they always have been and will always be the second team in Chicago baseball. This is a sellout and it something the Cubs would never do, this is why the Sox will remain the second team in baseball."

Yikes. I'm kinda mad about that.

joebro25
10-11-2006, 11:08 AM
I just heard them mention it on ESPN (people on Cold Pizza) a few minutes ago and this was said,

"The White Sox won the 2005 World Series and despite this, they always have been and will always be the second team in Chicago baseball. This is a sellout and it something the Cubs would never do, this is why the Sox will remain the second team in baseball."

Yikes. I'm kinda mad about that.

I just heard that too, but you have to consider who it came from. Skip Bayless is an idiot and I guess naming your bleachers is not selling out at all, just adding to the overall experience.

Palehose13
10-11-2006, 11:11 AM
I just heard them mention it on ESPN (people on Cold Pizza) a few minutes ago and this was said,

"The White Sox won the 2005 World Series and despite this, they always have been and will always be the second team in Chicago baseball. This is a sellout and it something the Cubs would never do, this is why the Sox will remain the second team in baseball."

Yikes. I'm kinda mad about that.

Whatever. The cubs play in one of the first stadiums with a corporate name.

Hitmen77
10-11-2006, 11:14 AM
I just heard them mention it on ESPN (people on Cold Pizza) a few minutes ago and this was said,

"The White Sox won the 2005 World Series and despite this, they always have been and will always be the second team in Chicago baseball. This is a sellout and it something the Cubs would never do, this is why the Sox will remain the second team in baseball."

Yikes. I'm kinda mad about that.

I just heard that too, but you have to consider who it came from. Skip Bayless is an idiot and I guess naming your bleachers is not selling out at all, just adding to the overall experience.

Skip Bayless has absolutely no credibility as far as I'm concerned. He used to be a Cubune reporter and in 2000 he was merciless in his non-stop Sox bashing while the team was racking up 95 wins. He would constantly twist stories with half-truths to paint the Sox in as bad of light as possible. He obviously just hates the Sox.

Speaking of the Cubune, they picked up the NY Times story:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-0610110236oct11,1,7200903.story?coll=chi-sportstop-hed

Britt Burns
10-11-2006, 11:14 AM
The joke here is on 7-11...starting next year, all clocks in the Cell will be set to military time. 1911, anyone?

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 11:18 AM
I just heard them mention it on ESPN (people on Cold Pizza) a few minutes ago and this was said,

"The White Sox won the 2005 World Series and despite this, they always have been and will always be the second team in Chicago baseball. This is a sellout and it something the Cubs would never do, this is why the Sox will remain the second team in baseball."

Yikes. I'm kinda mad about that.

This is what I knew and didn't want to happen. Oh well. Someone should let them know about all the Cubs crap they have...Bud Lite Bleachers, WRIGLEY Field, Scalping their own tickets, TRIBUNE Co. owning the team, etc...

:clueless
"But nooooo, never the Cubs. They are the greatest team in all of sports, they never sell out!!"

Lip Man 1
10-11-2006, 11:26 AM
Scott Reifert is quoted as saying the money goes back to either improving the team or the stadium. That's additional income gang that can be used to help pick up a player or go towards stadium repair.

Since the difference is only five minutes give or take from a usual 7:05 start I have no problems with this.

Lip

Blob
10-11-2006, 11:26 AM
I just heard them mention it on ESPN (people on Cold Pizza) a few minutes ago and this was said,

"The White Sox won the 2005 World Series and despite this, they always have been and will always be the second team in Chicago baseball. This is a sellout and it something the Cubs would never do, this is why the Sox will remain the second team in baseball."

Yikes. I'm kinda mad about that.

Didn't they sell their new, historic, bleachers to the Smytheeeeeee brothers??

Frontman
10-11-2006, 11:27 AM
I just heard them mention it on ESPN (people on Cold Pizza) a few minutes ago and this was said,

"The White Sox won the 2005 World Series and despite this, they always have been and will always be the second team in Chicago baseball. This is a sellout and it something the Cubs would never do, this is why the Sox will remain the second team in baseball."

Yikes. I'm kinda mad about that.

You mean the team that plays where there are the "Bud Light Bleachers?" You know, the one that promised a parking ramp to accomodate the additional seating, only to back out, claiming (get this) they're out of money?!?!?!

ESPN blows chunks. Only thing that matters between the Sox and the Cubs is which team beats the other, and which one wins titles.

Which I believe, last time I checked, was the Sox.

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Hangar18
10-11-2006, 11:28 AM
I just heard them mention it on ESPN (people on Cold Pizza) a few minutes ago and this was said,

"The White Sox won the 2005 World Series and despite this, they always have been and will always be the second team in Chicago baseball. This is a sellout and it something the Cubs would never do, this is why the Sox will remain the second team in baseball."

Yikes. I'm kinda mad about that.

*SIGHS* I wish we were in the playoffs, this blatantly WRONG statement would stand out. Whats ashamed is there are a lot of people who watch that show, and will believe that now. Cold Pizza or ESPN wont retract it either and admit that hey, the Cubs were the ORIGINAL SELLOUTS back in the day

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 11:30 AM
*SIGHS* I wish we were in the playoffs, this blatantly WRONG statement would stand out. Whats ashamed is there are a lot of people who watch that show, and will believe that now. Cold Pizza or ESPN wont retract it either and admit that hey, the Cubs were the ORIGINAL SELLOUTS back in the day

Exactly, the Sox better be in the playoffs next year. Let the Cubs have their marketing, we can have our winning.

It really amazes me sometimes how much praise Cubs fans get for drawing 3mil every year for a last place team, you would think ESPN with their love for all things Yankees/Red Sox/Patriots/Lakers aka teams that win, would fall so in love with a pitiful franchise that rips off their sheep fans.

lumpyspun
10-11-2006, 11:31 AM
I will never understand why people watch ESPN (besides sporting events you can't watch anywhere else), let alone Cold Pizza.

Myrtle72
10-11-2006, 11:33 AM
I will never understand why people watch ESPN, let alone Cold Pizza.

I was watching it because AJ was on it.

Hangar18
10-11-2006, 11:34 AM
ESPN blows chunks.

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ESPN is still waiting on that "documentary" from that bozo on What Its Like for long suffering Chicago fans to make the World Series finally (notice, ESPN forgot the SOX also play within Chicago city limits).

Filming was abruptly stopped in October of 2003 for some reason ....... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lumpyspun
10-11-2006, 11:36 AM
I was watching it because AJ was on it.

I wouldn't watch Cold Pizza if my mother was on there this morning.

Hangar18
10-11-2006, 11:36 AM
I will never understand why people watch ESPN (besides sporting events you can't watch anywhere else), let alone Cold Pizza.



Despite what we think, ESPN is "recognized" as the worldwide leader in sports. Everthing they say and cover is generally regarded as truth. Thats why I hate that network and their disturbing love for everything Yankees/RedSox/Cubs

jenn2080
10-11-2006, 11:37 AM
*SIGHS* I wish we were in the playoffs, this blatantly WRONG statement would stand out. Whats ashamed is there are a lot of people who watch that show, and will believe that now. Cold Pizza or ESPN wont retract it either and admit that hey, the Cubs were the ORIGINAL SELLOUTS back in the day


Well the bright side of things is it is on at off hours so there will not be as many people brainwashed as if it were on primetime.

I hate Cold Pizza too. They are morons. The time I could careless about. 705, 735, 605 whatever tickles your fancy so long as their is a game played I am fine.

Myrtle72
10-11-2006, 11:39 AM
I had never watched Cold Pizza until I saw that AJ was on it yesterday and today. And now I don't think I want to watch it again after what they said about the Cubs and the Sox. I'm really freggin' irritated.

And you guys are right, ESPN could say whatever they want about whoever they want in sports and it will be regarded as the truth, even if it's completely bogus.

Gah. :angry: I just don't like the media in general.

Frontman
10-11-2006, 11:40 AM
I will never understand why people watch ESPN (besides sporting events you can't watch anywhere else), let alone Cold Pizza.


Well, some of the national stories are worth following, and during those times do I watch/listen to ESPN. (Big Ben's motorcycle accident, for example.)

I do watch when our local guys are on, especially AJ. And I do watch PTI, as Michael Wilbon does bring a Chicago perspective to national stories, far more than a local personality who is on Around the Horn.....

:moron (Ladies and gentlemen, let the name calling begin)


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NoNeckEra
10-11-2006, 11:45 AM
I hate Cold Pizza too. They are morons.
I get a headache listening to those loudmouth writers.

mcg
10-11-2006, 12:00 PM
I don't see what the problem is. If anyone paid attention you'd notice first pitch is always 7 minutes after the hour (except for the 12:20 Fox Saturday games). I don't know if 7:11 will be game time or first pitch time but we're talking about either 4 or 6 minutes. Big deal.

SABRSox
10-11-2006, 12:10 PM
I'll take it. That extra $500,000 can go to some relief pitching.

doogiec
10-11-2006, 12:11 PM
Anything the Sox can do to bring in free money will always be OK with me. The only reason Skip thinks the Cubs philosophy is better is the fact that he never needs to shell out his own money to buy a ticket.

I'll bet the Cub fans who have to resort to buying tickets from the Cubs owned scalpers, or paying $60 to sit in the outfield wouldn't mind if the Cubs found a few other revenue sources other than screwing their fans.

Iwritecode
10-11-2006, 12:22 PM
it is one of their freeze-dried bugers that you zap in the microwave :?:

Anything you buy at a conveince store or gas station that has to be put into a microwave is not going to be any good.

Iwritecode
10-11-2006, 12:24 PM
the Cubs were the ORIGINAL SELLOUTS back in the day

Actually they are the only team that I know of that gets no money from having a corprate name on their stadium. It's really a great deal for the gum company.

Hangar18
10-11-2006, 12:27 PM
Actually they are the only team that I know of that gets no money from having a corprate name on their stadium. It's really a great deal for the gum company.

Thats because they CANT do it now. Everyone and their mother knows that park as "wrigley". Im sure that makes them a bit miffed ........

pmck003
10-11-2006, 12:27 PM
I feel the same as it is not a big deal, but the line for this type of advertising needs to be drawn somewhere.

mrfourni
10-11-2006, 12:35 PM
Actually they are the only team that I know of that gets no money from having a corprate name on their stadium. It's really a great deal for the gum company.


Are you sure about that? I always thought Busch Stadium was in the same boat.

Steelrod
10-11-2006, 12:42 PM
Are you sure about that? I always thought Busch Stadium was in the same boat.
Both teams were owned by corporate families for a very long time!
It just amazes me how often this site gets in lengthy debates regarding insignificant thing! Be greatful that 8;00 O'Clock coffee wasn't also trying to get the time changed!

Iwritecode
10-11-2006, 01:02 PM
Are you sure about that? I always thought Busch Stadium was in the same boat.

I forgot about them. :redface:

They were at least still owned by the company that had their name on the stadium up until 1995.

Steelrod
10-11-2006, 01:07 PM
I forgot about them. :redface:

They were at least still owned by the company that had their name on the stadium up until 1995.
To be completely correct, the cards played in Sportsman's Park until Busch Stadium was built. The Cubs stadium had a different name until Wrigley bought them and changed the name of the park. Maybe the first time a named was ever changed for a sponsorship name, even though Wrigley owned them.

I want Mags back
10-11-2006, 01:19 PM
Hey maybe they will use the extra 6 minutes to show the intro video on TV:D:

TheKittle
10-11-2006, 01:37 PM
Both teams were owned by corporate families for a very long time!
It just amazes me how often this site gets in lengthy debates regarding insignificant thing!


No, that never happens.

DoItForDanPasqua
10-11-2006, 01:47 PM
Really good deal for 7-11, the price they paid is cheap for all of that marketing.

I agree, they should have at least payed a couple million. Just for the story appearing in most major newspapers is worth the 500K.

Flight #24
10-11-2006, 02:00 PM
So let me see: a change is made that will have absolutely no impact on anything but brings in a small amount of revenue for the team and this has generated a 6-page thread with people complaining?
:rolleyes:

Seriously, if they hadn't announced this, would anyone have noticed that the start time was changed and done more than shrug and say "6 minutes later? Huh....ok"?

areilly
10-11-2006, 02:00 PM
Sponsorship gets stupid (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6049840)

I don't mind the later start times.

I DO mind the further corporatization of the game.

Blech.

ChiSoxLifer
10-11-2006, 02:08 PM
I don't mind at all as long as it contributes to a competitive White Sox team.

Tekijawa
10-11-2006, 02:09 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/47/Apu.png/222px-Apu.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Apu.png)

Thank you... Come again!

jenn2080
10-11-2006, 02:16 PM
So let me see: a change is made that will have absolutely no impact on anything but brings in a small amount of revenue for the team and this has generated a 6-page thread with people complaining?
:rolleyes:

Seriously, if they hadn't announced this, would anyone have noticed that the start time was changed and done more than shrug and say "6 minutes later? Huh....ok"?

I agree:rolleyes:

:whocares

PicktoCLick72
10-11-2006, 02:21 PM
I know people will complain about the sponsorship part but in reality it has no effect on the actual team but give them a little more money. Besides, everone enjoys a slurpee once in a while.

The Dude
10-11-2006, 02:22 PM
Actually they are the only team that I know of that gets no money from having a corprate name on their stadium. It's really a great deal for the gum company.

ARRRGGGHH, why do the Cubs need to be brought up?:rolleyes: I'm not rolling at you Iwritecode.

spiffie
10-11-2006, 02:25 PM
There's a large thread on this in the Clubhouse:

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80051

jenn2080
10-11-2006, 02:31 PM
Sponsorship gets stupid (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6049840)

I don't mind the later start times.

I DO mind the further corporatization of the game.

Blech.


A day late and a dollar short. Clubhouse had this first thing this AM.

lumpyspun
10-11-2006, 02:47 PM
Is this a slippery slope? Possibly.

I don't see this as a big deal, but where does a team draw the line?

What is the magical formula for how cheesy something is and how much money it will cost to be cheesy.

What if some company offered the team $1 million to have Joe Crede do a live commercial while he is playing 3B during the middle of an inning. What if the Sox turned that down and the company then offered $5 million. I know this is a crazy scenario and not directly comparable (or is it?) but it was just something I thought of off the top of my head at the moment. Fifteen years ago you would never see ads on an outfield wall, now we have Spiderman ads on second base.

I guess I just wonder where a team draws the line.

goon
10-11-2006, 02:53 PM
it's not a big deal, in fact, i think it's actually kind of a funny promotion. however, i'm with some of the people on here who the think the sox could have got a bit more out of the deal. 500,000 or even 1,000,000 for changing the start time as some gimmick and the advertising that comes with the deal seems like it would cost more money...

thomas35forever
10-11-2006, 02:56 PM
7-11's going to see a huge soar in its profit starting next season.

Iwritecode
10-11-2006, 02:58 PM
ARRRGGGHH, why do the Cubs need to be brought up?:rolleyes: I'm not rolling at you Iwritecode.

Because Hangar posted in this thread. :wink:

MisterB
10-11-2006, 03:00 PM
To be completely correct, the cards played in Sportsman's Park until Busch Stadium was built. The Cubs stadium had a different name until Wrigley bought them and changed the name of the park. Maybe the first time a named was ever changed for a sponsorship name, even though Wrigley owned them.

Actually to be completely correct, Sportsman's Park was renamed Busch Stadium in 1953. The St. Louis Browns owned Sportsman's and when the team was about to relocate to Baltimore they sold it to the Cardinals. Gussie Busch (the Cards' owner) wanted to rename it "Budweiser Stadium", but the league disapproved, so he gave it the family name.

NoNeckEra
10-11-2006, 03:10 PM
7-11's going to see a huge soar in its profit starting next season.
As will the profit for all the area casinos with Craps tables.

mrs. hendu
10-11-2006, 03:16 PM
As a marketer, I have to admit 7/11 had a clever idea. I don't mind at all.

2nd team? I'll stick to what was said the second the White Sox won the World Series last year: second city, second team - no more.

That's it. All those mediots from ESPN and pathetic losers bleeding cubbie blue can say whatever they want, because they're not worth a thing.

CLR01
10-11-2006, 03:23 PM
7-11's going to see a huge soar in its profit starting next season.



I don't know that I see people rushing off to 7-11 because Sox games start at 7:11. By the time next season rolls around 75% of people in the Sox viewing area will have forgotten all about this.

wdelaney72
10-11-2006, 03:25 PM
Really good deal for 7-11, the price they paid is cheap for all of that marketing.


Agreed. 500K? That's it?

C'mon, Brooks!!!

LuvSox
10-11-2006, 03:26 PM
I don't know that I see people rushing off to 7-11 because Sox games start at 7:11. By the time next season rolls around 75% of people in the Sox viewing area will have forgotten all about this.

I struggle to think of 1/2 dozen 7-11 stores in my area.

NoNeckEra
10-11-2006, 03:33 PM
I don't know that I see people rushing off to 7-11 because Sox games start at 7:11. By the time next season rolls around 75% of people in the Sox viewing area will have forgotten all about this.
Not so fast. You don't think 7-11 gets "Gene Honda" time for this investment too? No different than UPS("First pitch delivered by....."), Best Buy, The Illinois Lottery, Dicks Sporting Goods, Dunkin' Donuts, Connie's Pizza, Pontiac Fundamentals, Chevy Pride Crew,etc, etc, etc. 7-11 had a budget to spend and got what they think was the biggest bang for their buck.

CLR01
10-11-2006, 03:59 PM
Not so fast. You don't think 7-11 gets "Gene Honda" time for this investment too? No different than UPS("First pitch delivered by....."), Best Buy, The Illinois Lottery, Dicks Sporting Goods, Dunkin' Donuts, Connie's Pizza, Pontiac Fundamentals, Chevy Pride Crew,etc, etc, etc. 7-11 had a budget to spend and got what they think was the biggest bang for their buck.

Maybe but from my reading it sounds like they are banking on people (radio/TV announcers) saying todays/tomorrows game time is 7:11 and newspaper, jumbotron, tv/radio advertisements flashing/listing the game time as 7:11. Even if Gene Honda does give them a mention how many people are going to go pick up a slurpee beause they heard 7-Eleven at the park?

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 04:13 PM
ARRRGGGHH, why do the Cubs need to be brought up?:rolleyes: I'm not rolling at you Iwritecode.

Becuase ESPN brought up "this is why the Sox will always be the second team in the second city." That's why.

SoxFanPrope
10-11-2006, 04:26 PM
7-11 is paying the White Sox 500K for the rights
Does that seem like a low amount to anyone else? :?:
maybe our ticketbacks will get us free slurpies :D:
:bandance::bandance::bandance::bandance::bandance: :bandance::bandance:

BA: The Hitman
10-11-2006, 05:21 PM
We won the world championship in 2005, does this organization really need to lower itself to changing the starting time of home games for a measly 500K? That seems like a lot to all of us, but that is nothing for an organization like the white sox. This seems like something that would be better suited for a team like the royals or devil rays....

FedEx227
10-11-2006, 05:28 PM
We heard all the same stuff when they sold the rights to U.S. Cellular.

Let people think we're the 2nd team, I honestly don't care anymore... I'd rather be the 2nd team in a city then the worst team in the major leagues.

Frontman
10-11-2006, 05:50 PM
Michael Wilbon put it best on PTI,

"What's the big deal? Since the 19th century, baseball has had sponsors!"

Front

FedEx227
10-11-2006, 05:54 PM
Michael Wilbon put it best on PTI,

"What's the big deal? Since the 19th century, baseball has had sponsors!"

Front

Exactly, purists apparently don't realize that baseball cards were given along with cigs, tobacco ads, beer ads everywhere.. advertising has and will always be apart of American sports.

I also love people freaking out like baseball is on a strict start-time policy and that ESPN will no longer cover our games. It is really not that big of a deal, I've been to plenty of games that started at 7:13, 7:12, 7:08...

anewman35
10-11-2006, 06:19 PM
I struggle to think of 1/2 dozen 7-11 stores in my area.

7-11 recently bought White Hen, and quite possibly will be renaming them all. There'll be a whole lot more 7-11s around soon.

HotelWhiteSox
10-11-2006, 06:58 PM
This is lame, I am real impatient, I know it's no big deal, but I just hate the 5 minutes of the stupid pre game, or when the umpire actually has to wait for the clock to hit 7:05.

But all will be forgiven for free slurpees or slurpee machines at the Cell, I am addicted to those

Patrick134
10-11-2006, 07:05 PM
I haven't read the other posts, but this deal made me think of some other sponsor tie ins that we could possibly see...

"Neil Cott's next pitch sponsored by Home Run Inn"

"The play of Rob Mackowiak in center brought to you by ABC's "Lost""

"Brian Anderson's at bat courtesy of Chrysler's K Car"

" Paul Konerko's baserunning presented by Molasses"


Also, every game started by Freddy Garcia would start at 4:20.

chisoxmike
10-11-2006, 07:06 PM
I haven't read the other posts, but this deal made me think of some other sponsor tie ins that we could possibly see...

"Neil Cott's next pitch sponsored by Home Run Inn"

"The play of Rob Mackowiak in center brought to you by ABC's "Lost""






:rolling:

soxchick20
10-11-2006, 09:03 PM
I haven't read the other posts, but this deal made me think of some other sponsor tie ins that we could possibly see...

"Neil Cott's next pitch sponsored by Home Run Inn"

"The play of Rob Mackowiak in center brought to you by ABC's "Lost""

"Brian Anderson's at bat courtesy of Chrysler's K Car"

" Paul Konerko's baserunning presented by Molasses"


Also, every game started by Freddy Garcia would start at 4:20.

those are good.:roflmao: :rolling: :thumbsup:

Andy T Clown
10-11-2006, 09:05 PM
Whatever. The cubs play in one of the first stadiums with a corporate name.

Wrigley should be paying them a fortune!

soxwon
10-11-2006, 09:13 PM
i love it!!!! 7:11 more money in the sox pockets to get
Zito or AROD.

Palehose13
10-11-2006, 09:15 PM
i love it!!!! 7:11 more money in the sox pockets to get
Zito or AROD.

soxwon haiku has struck again! :D:

soxwon
10-11-2006, 09:15 PM
7-11 recently bought White Hen, and quite possibly will be renaming them all. There'll be a whole lot more 7-11s around soon.

WHITE HEN 11?

soxwon
10-11-2006, 09:16 PM
soxwon haiku has struck again! :D:

Haku was one of my favorite wrestlers years ago.
and one of the toughest Guys on the planet
but a very nice guy, in a bar scene.

slavko
10-11-2006, 09:22 PM
7-11's going to see a huge soar in its profit starting next season.

I've got a huge soar on my butt from sitting here reading a 6 page thread about absolutely nothing. Get a life, Slavko.

TDog
10-11-2006, 09:49 PM
Michael Wilbon put it best on PTI,

"What's the big deal? Since the 19th century, baseball has had sponsors!"

Front


But I want the game to start NOW! ...

I once lived in a city without 7-Elevens. As about half a dozen stores were getting ready to open, Circle K bought them all, so we ended up with major intersections with Circle Ks on two of the four corners. I haven't been in a 7-Eleven for years, but if starting weeknight games at 7:11 proves at all lucky for the Sox next year, I will be happy.

JB98
10-11-2006, 09:54 PM
Much ado about nothing.

Kub_Killer_15
10-11-2006, 11:04 PM
I find this very creative, More money to the Sox!:bandance:

slobes
10-11-2006, 11:17 PM
This is crazy. Then again, money for the Sox. That's all that really matters.

CaptainBallz
10-12-2006, 10:37 AM
This topic came up on a completely non-sports related radio show yesterday during the news section and they laughed it off as incredibly cheesy. I know, who cares, but just thought I'd point out that there were laughs at the Sox expense.
I have to agree that it is corny and thinking about it some more, the Sox got hosed on the deal. With all the start-time announcements on TV and radio, media releases, tickets, TV guides, etc. all listing the start time as 7:11, which ALREADY automatically makes one think of the store, $500k/year is pretty weak. I think it's a reasonably ok idea, but I don't think the duckets for three years reflects the marketing push that 7/11 gets.

Baby Fisk
10-12-2006, 10:58 AM
http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/chisox/veeckcws.jpg
"Jeez Louise, this is a page right out of my own playbook. Keep up the first class job there, Jerry and Eddie."

Tom~Attitude
10-12-2006, 11:46 AM
maybe our ticketbacks will get us free slurpies :D:
.....From the Tribune article:
"7-Eleven wanted a new wrinkle to the more traditional sponsorship they were working on, which includes 25,000 giveaway coupons at each game. That could strain the Slurpee-making capacity of the 7-Elevens in the Chicagoland area."

Iwritecode
10-12-2006, 12:01 PM
But I want the game to start NOW! ...

I once lived in a city without 7-Elevens. As about half a dozen stores were getting ready to open, Circle K bought them all, so we ended up with major intersections with Circle Ks on two of the four corners. I haven't been in a 7-Eleven for years, but if starting weeknight games at 7:11 proves at all lucky for the Sox next year, I will be happy.

I still live in a city with no 7-11s. No White Hens and no White Castles either.

Up until just a few years ago I had never heard of Krispy Kreme doughnuts...

Tom~Attitude
10-12-2006, 12:09 PM
I still live in a city with no 7-11s. No White Hens and no White Castles either.
...
I'll trade you a White Castle for a Beef-A-Roo!
You Rockford people are blessed!

Iwritecode
10-12-2006, 12:42 PM
I'll trade you a White Castle for a Beef-A-Roo!
You Rockford people are blessed!

No way! I luv my Beef-A-Roo fries. Hands down, best I've ever tasted. :D:

Sad
10-12-2006, 12:47 PM
Does that seem like a low amount to anyone else? :?:

yeah... 500K got them a sit-down with Uncle Jerry...

HotelWhiteSox
10-12-2006, 01:17 PM
I don't know, it just seems like a Schaumburg Flyers type of thing

ewokpelts
10-12-2006, 02:40 PM
I don't know, it just seems like a Schaumburg Flyers type of thingOr Chicago Bears Presented by Bank One kinda thing.

TDog
10-12-2006, 03:58 PM
I still live in a city with no 7-11s. No White Hens and no White Castles either.

Up until just a few years ago I had never heard of Krispy Kreme doughnuts...

I saw a 7-Eleven on Karl Johan's Gate in Oslo this summer, but there are no 7-Elevens where I live. It was a CNN story when our Taco Bell closed down. We have two Subways and two McDonald's -- although I've never been in either -- but the only other franchise business we have is a Papa Murphy's. I have never heard of a lot of things.

Not that 7:11 Sox starting times would seem like any sort of plug for the store. Where I live, the games would start at 4:11.

I don't see what the excitement is all about. It's not like the announcers are going to have to work Seven-11 into their home run calls, like the Diamondbacks announcers were supposed to call home-park home runs "Bank One blasts" as if they were "White Owl wallops."

slavko
10-12-2006, 09:00 PM
Up until just a few years ago I had never heard of Krispy Kreme doughnuts...

and judging by their sales curve around here, in a few years we'll be back to square one. Hard to understand why a one ounce lump of white flour, refined sugar and fat selling for 75 cents each is losing market share. Their stock has had a nice boom and bust in the course of 4 short years.

ewokpelts
10-12-2006, 10:37 PM
and judging by their sales curve around here, in a few years we'll be back to square one. Hard to understand why a one ounce lump of white flour, refined sugar and fat selling for 75 cents each is losing market share. Their stock has had a nice boom and bust in the course of 4 short years.
i think it had something to do with fuzzy accounting

FedEx227
10-12-2006, 10:44 PM
i think it had something to do with fuzzy accounting

Fuzzy accounting and over expansion. They added like 2-3,000 new stores or something like that, eventually once the mania wears off... it will bite you in the ass.

Myrtle72
10-13-2006, 04:09 AM
I love that there are well over twice as many responses to this thread (143) than there are to the Mets/Cards NLCS game thread (64) (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=79964).

:D:

Iwritecode
10-13-2006, 10:32 AM
Fuzzy accounting and over expansion. They added like 2-3,000 new stores or something like that, eventually once the mania wears off... it will bite you in the ass.

I never liked them to begin with and never understood the obsession over them.

ewokpelts
10-13-2006, 10:35 AM
I never liked them to begin with and never understood the obsession over them.
the glazed ones are great, and they still taste fresh up to two days later.
crapin donuts only taste fresh for an hour.
that said, krispy kreme pissed me off with the "flat box". what donuts cant be placed on their sides?

I want Mags back
10-13-2006, 10:39 AM
I love that there are well over twice as many responses to this thread (143) than there are to the Mets/Cards NLCS game thread (64) (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=79964).

:D:

hence why the NL sucks

Dan the Man
10-14-2006, 12:40 PM
Who sponsors the 4:20 weekend games? :smokin:

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

:thumbsup:

nasox
10-14-2006, 01:44 PM
I saw a 7-Eleven on Karl Johan's Gate in Oslo this summer, but there are no 7-Elevens where I live. It was a CNN story when our Taco Bell closed down. We have two Subways and two McDonald's -- although I've never been in either -- but the only other franchise business we have is a Papa Murphy's. I have never heard of a lot of things.

Not that 7:11 Sox starting times would seem like any sort of plug for the store. Where I live, the games would start at 4:11.

I don't see what the excitement is all about. It's not like the announcers are going to have to work Seven-11 into their home run calls, like the Diamondbacks announcers were supposed to call home-park home runs "Bank One blasts" as if they were "White Owl wallops."

That is bull that the sox aren't getting paid by the good folks at 411 telephone services.

jabrch
10-14-2006, 05:32 PM
:tongue:

I just want to know where the money is going. If it goes back to the fans great, if its going to fund green paint to dump over the park or add lights to the upper deck then its lame. We'll see I guess.


How about to payroll? Who cares where they say those specific $ are going to - it's 1.5mm more for the franchise over the course of time. That's 1.5mm more in revenues to the team. Assume that payroll is somewhat proportional to revenues, and that JR and company kinda fix their profit, this is nothing but a good thing.

JoeyCora28
10-16-2006, 09:00 AM
:dollarbill:

The Blackhawks announce that today we have reached an agreement with Netzero to sponsor our television non-broadcast of every home game. This sponsorship allows the Blackhawks to continue to provide the least to our fans for the longest possible time. As part of the agreement, Netzero will be able to display its logo prominently on the ice during all of our televised home game non-broadcasts.

IronFisk
10-16-2006, 12:45 PM
Being from Hoosierland, this gives me an extra-six minutes to negotiate the Ryan :redneck

esbrechtel
10-19-2006, 11:01 AM
this was the sign of apocolypse in sports illustrated...