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HotelWhiteSox
09-29-2006, 12:19 AM
There's reports that Frank Robinson is gone after this year. Likely, Dusty, Girardi. Speculate/predict/report here

oeo
09-29-2006, 12:26 AM
There's reports that Frank Robinson is gone after this year. Likely, Dusty, Girardi. Speculate/predict/report here

Sounds like a couple of pretty good managers for the Flubs to choose from. Do they get one of these guys or somebody else? I predict Bob Brenley. :o:

As for anyone else, I'm not sure. Could Wedge's job be on the line? John Gibbons...? He likes to pick fights apparantly.

drewcifer
09-29-2006, 12:33 AM
Girardi will be on the Northside.

Dusty - I don't know... Who wants him...

MUsoxfan
09-29-2006, 02:01 AM
Dusty - I don't know... Who wants him...

Dusty might take a year or two off before somebody picks him up. Usually the Northside is where managerial careers go to die. Dusty doesn't strike me as someone who would go be somebody else's coach.


I still say that Dusty's record is mostly a product of the crap that Hendry put on his field.


I look for the following casualties:

Gibbons - Toronto
Girardi - Marlins


And as my darkhorse....

Schowalter - Texas

soxinem1
09-29-2006, 07:27 AM
Girardi, Robinson, Hargrove, and Dusty are history, Gibbons probable, Manuel (if Philly goes home after 10/1) and Showalter are possible. I think Felipe Alou is going to hang it up as well.

Girardi sounds like an obvious cub pick, just like Dusty was four years ago when he was on the outs in SF. When he becomes manager of the cubs, he won't have to worry about his owners yelling at the umps about balls and strikes: They don't care!!!

Rooney4Prez56
09-29-2006, 07:41 AM
Girardi's gone. Felipe Alou is going too. Other than that, I don't know.

southside rocks
09-29-2006, 10:27 AM
Dusty might take a year or two off before somebody picks him up. Usually the Northside is where managerial careers go to die. Dusty doesn't strike me as someone who would go be somebody else's coach.


I still say that Dusty's record is mostly a product of the crap that Hendry put on his field.


I look for the following casualties:

Gibbons - Toronto
Girardi - Marlins


And as my darkhorse....

Schowalter - Texas

Showalter -- I dunno, the Rangers GM just came out a couple of weeks ago and said that Buck isn't going anywhere.
http://tinyurl.com/f3q3w

Girardi to the north side of Chicago -- I really have a hard time picturing McPhail and Hendry hiring a manager who's so strong and outspoken. Wouldn't that be unusual for them? I think they're more likely to go with Brenly.

Iwritecode
09-29-2006, 10:39 AM
Dusty - I don't know... Who wants him...

I'm really interested to see where he ends up. One time I looked up the Cubs previous managers to try and find out what happened to them all. I couldn't find a single one that had any sort of decent managerial career after leaving the Cubs. The Sox only have to go back to LaRussa.

Wrigley Field, where managers go to end their careers...

palehozenychicty
09-29-2006, 11:06 AM
Showalter -- I dunno, the Rangers GM just came out a couple of weeks ago and said that Buck isn't going anywhere.
http://tinyurl.com/f3q3w

Girardi to the north side of Chicago -- I really have a hard time picturing McPhail and Hendry hiring a manager who's so strong and outspoken. Wouldn't that be unusual for them? I think they're more likely to go with Brenly.

Supposedly, Showalter is yet again wearing out his welcome down in Texas. But they signed him to a deal until 2009! Does Tom Hicks know how to waste money or what?!

Girardi is not the slam dunk everyone thinks for that reason alone. He actually knows how to play the game and the current roster does not fit his mold. Hendry and McFail could care less about the method of baseball displayed, so it might get ugly fast if he does get hired. It means another 100 year drought.

caulfield12
09-29-2006, 11:25 AM
Dusty might take a year or two off before somebody picks him up. Usually the Northside is where managerial careers go to die. Dusty doesn't strike me as someone who would go be somebody else's coach.


I still say that Dusty's record is mostly a product of the crap that Hendry put on his field.


I look for the following casualties:

Gibbons - Toronto
Girardi - Marlins


And as my darkhorse....

Schowalter - Texas

Lots of stuff coming out now about Showalter. I think he's gone, easier to get rid of the manager than to trade Michael Young.

I think JP up in Toronto has stood up too much for Gibbons to bail on him at this point. It would make him look really dumb. Which has never stopped him before...

Haven't heard much about Wedge. I would prefer he was retained, we don't need someone like Piniella in our division managing those youngsters over there.

Brewers' manager will be under a lot of heat next year (Yost).
Same with Francona (if team is healthy).

Hargrove, seems like he's probably gone.

palehozenychicty
09-29-2006, 11:31 AM
Wedge may be one of the worst managers in the game. Their record in close games during his tenure is abysmal.

caulfield12
09-29-2006, 11:33 AM
LaRussa??? If they miss the playoffs this year, it might be time for him to move on, both for his own good and that of sane Cardinals fans.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/E282DD485DD5DD09862571E4001ACF01?OpenDocument

Interesting article on future of Cards, payrolls, mixing in young pitchers with veterans, trading pitching...lots of parallels with Sox situation right now. Looks like LaRussa's entire coaching staff is up for renewal (except him), could make for an interesting offseason.

And someone will try to convince the Sox board that Don Cooper can also "fix" Jason Marquis as well.

I want Mags back
09-29-2006, 11:38 AM
And as my darkhorse....

Schowalter - Texas

and that would of course lead to a rangers world series, just like when the yankees and D-backs dump showalter

Hitmen77
09-29-2006, 11:46 AM
I'm really interested to see where he ends up. One time I looked up the Cubs previous managers to try and find out what happened to them all. I couldn't find a single one that had any sort of decent managerial career after leaving the Cubs. The Sox only have to go back to LaRussa.

Wrigley Field, where managers go to end their careers...

Yeah, but they got to manage at magical Wrigley Field!

Back in 2002 when the Cubs hired Dusty, I really wondered why Baker would want the Cubs job. I wondered why he would go from a consistently good organization to a consistently very bad one - I guessed at the time that it would end badly for him.

viagracat
09-29-2006, 11:52 AM
I think Robinson and Alou are ready to say "I'm too old for this ****" and will be given the opportunity to jump before they are pushed.

Baker will be gone. No question. And I think he's ready to move on. Mutual decision, in other words.

Girardi committed the sin of standing up to his boss, so he gawn too. I think there's an at least 70% chance he'll manage the Cubs next year. But he's also said to be a Buck Showalter clone; a micromanager that will wear on his players in a hurry. If the Cubs don't do something right in the first year or two under his leadership, they never will.

I don't think that even if the Cardinals blow it, LaRussa's in trouble. He has too much of a track record.

If the Yankees miss the World Series, I wouldn't be shocked to see Torre and Steinbrenner agreeing to call it a day.

viagracat
09-29-2006, 11:55 AM
Yeah, but they got to manage at magical Wrigley Field!

Back in 2002 when the Cubs hired Dusty, I really wondered why Baker would want the Cubs job. I wondered why he would go from a consistently good organization to a consistently very bad one - I guessed at the time that it would end badly for him.

I can't offhand think of the last Cub manager who actually worked as a major-league manager again after getting canned by the Cubs.

soxfanatlanta
09-29-2006, 01:52 PM
I think there's an at least 70% chance he'll manage the Cubs next year. But he's also said to be a Buck Showalter clone; a micromanager that will wear on his players in a hurry. If the Cubs don't do something right in the first year or two under his leadership, they never will.

Man, I hope he does not take the job on the North Side; then I would have to not like him. Do you think he micro-manages because his players are so young?

RKMeibalane
09-29-2006, 02:12 PM
I can't offhand think of the last Cub manager who actually worked as a major-league manager again after getting canned by the Cubs.

Lee Elia is the only one I know of. He managed the Phils in '87 and '88.

Iwritecode
09-29-2006, 02:31 PM
I can't offhand think of the last Cub manager who actually worked as a major-league manager again after getting canned by the Cubs.

That's the funny thing. There aren't any that really went on to have a decent managerial career. A couple managed a year or two afterwards but that's about it.

Lee Elia is the only one I know of. He managed the Phils in '87 and '88.

They weren't even full seasons. 101 games in '87 and 153 in '88.

EDIT: Ok, I stand corrected. There were two that actually went on to manage another team for more than a year or three.

Rogers Hornsby: 1933 - 1937 & 1952 he managed the Cardinals. 1952 & 1953 he was with Cincinnati

Joe McCarthy: 1931 - 1946 he managed the Yankees and won a few WS titles. Then he was with Boston from 1948 - 1950.

Charlie Grimm sandwiched 1952 - 1956 with Boston and Milwaukee in between managing stints with the Cubs.

Everyone else either never managed again or only managed for 1-3 years afterward.

BNLSox
09-29-2006, 02:58 PM
I think Gibbons should be fired - Toronto went out and spent a boatload and really had their chances. Team never came together.

Dusty should have been fired a year ago. LaRussa will be on the hot seat but not fired - they did just win a pennant which is fine by them. I was hoping Phil Garner because man is that guy a fool, but clearly he will be retained even if they don't pull through to take the division. And yes I know he was in the World Series last year but it seemed like he only hurts his team. A lot of managers would have won it with that squad.

goofymsfan
09-29-2006, 03:05 PM
Hargrove, seems like he's probably gone.

Much to the M's fans distain, Grover and Bavasi are signed and will be back in '07 according the the email the M's front office sent out to the season ticket holders. I wonder if they know that by keeping them around, they will likely lose even more season ticket holders. I've talked to many that are not going to renew because of this announcement. I love baseball too much not to re-new, just wish they would change the front office people....