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downstairs
09-25-2006, 07:18 AM
So Detroit had a full on celebration for "clinching a playoff berth"... even though they haven't specifically clinched the division or wild card yet?

I don't remember any team ever doing that? I think its a bit foolish and immature.

I remember some managers (LaRussa on STL?) refusing to let the team celebrate until it was official and completely sealed.

I don't know... even though you haven't, at least act like you've been there before. Celebrate once you've clinched the division.

sox1970
09-25-2006, 07:28 AM
So Detroit had a full on celebration for "clinching a playoff berth"... even though they haven't specifically clinched the division or wild card yet?

I don't remember any team ever doing that? I think its a bit foolish and immature.

I remember some managers (LaRussa on STL?) refusing to let the team celebrate until it was official and completely sealed.

I don't know... even though you haven't, at least act like you've been there before. Celebrate once you've clinched the division.

I completely feel the opposite of you. I think once you're in the playoffs, you celebrate. To me there's not much difference in winning a division or getting the wildcard. Four teams make the playoffs, and once you know you're one of them, that's when you should celebrate. It doesn't mean they should stop trying to win games to get homefield advantage, but getting in the postseason is the accomplishment you should celebrate.

Fenway
09-25-2006, 08:26 AM
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006609250333

Tom Hanks was wrong. There is crying in baseball.
Getting the team of his childhood to the playoffs for the first time in 19 years hit closer to Ilitch's heart than any of his three Stanley Cups. Getting the team of his dreams to the playoffs after a six-year absence from the major leagues left Leyland too emotional to speak.

Kub_Killer_15
09-25-2006, 08:41 AM
They should celebrate because their guaranteed to be 1 of 8 teams in the post season. Clinching a berth puts a lot of weight off their back like it did for the White Sox going into Cleveland last year.

downstairs
09-25-2006, 08:42 AM
Ok, then... I can agree with Detroit doing it.

I guess I just hate the whole wild card thing which really removed a lot of drama from the regular season races.

We get a few weeks now of MIN and DET fighting for what? Their positioning in the playoffs?

sox1970
09-25-2006, 08:49 AM
Ok, then... I can agree with Detroit doing it.

I guess I just hate the whole wild card thing which really removed a lot of drama from the regular season races.

We get a few weeks now of MIN and DET fighting for what? Their positioning in the playoffs?

Personally, I wish they eliminated divisions and interleague play, and play a balanced schedule. Top four teams make the playoffs. The new wrinkle would be the top seed gets rewarded with 4 home games instead of 3 in the first round of the playoffs. I know this won't happen, but I think the format would be better than what it is now.

MarySwiss
09-25-2006, 08:53 AM
Ok, then... I can agree with Detroit doing it.

I guess I just hate the whole wild card thing which really removed a lot of drama from the regular season races.

We get a few weeks now of MIN and DET fighting for what? Their positioning in the playoffs?
We get one week, and if and when we are eliminated, I am firmly on the Detroit bandwagon, at least as far as the AL Central goes. I can only hope we're in a position to go into Minny and knock the Twins out of the division race in front of their fans. And yes, I am a vindictive shrew. :cool:

0o0o0
09-25-2006, 09:41 AM
We get one week, and if and when we are eliminated, I am firmly on the Detroit bandwagon, at least as far as the AL Central goes. I can only hope we're in a position to go into Minny and knock the Twins out of the division race in front of their fans. And yes, I am a vindictive shrew. :cool:

I like it.

Sox-o-matic
09-25-2006, 10:06 AM
Personally, I wish they eliminated divisions and interleague play, and play a balanced schedule. Top four teams make the playoffs. The new wrinkle would be the top seed gets rewarded with 4 home games instead of 3 in the first round of the playoffs. I know this won't happen, but I think the format would be better than what it is now.

I agree 100%

areilly
09-25-2006, 10:14 AM
It's been 19 years since they've been in the playoffs and 13 years since they even had a winning record.

I say let them celebrate. It's been a long time coming.

viagracat
09-25-2006, 10:20 AM
We get one week, and if and when we are eliminated, I am firmly on the Detroit bandwagon, at least as far as the AL Central goes. I can only hope we're in a position to go into Minny and knock the Twins out of the division race in front of their fans. And yes, I am a vindictive shrew. :cool:

I guess I can't be a "shrew" because I'm a guy, but I can be the male equivilent. I agree 100% with your post. I'll be behind the Tigers all the way to the WS. The only team I'd root for ahead of the Tigers are the Cardinals.

Congrats Detroit. You were better than us this year. But we'll see you next year. Be ready. :cool:

ma-gaga
09-25-2006, 01:02 PM
I guess I can't be a "shrew" because I'm a guy, but I can be the male equivilent.

And yes, I am a vindictive shrew. :cool:

So... Do 'piranah-tas' eat shrews?? :)

The damn Yankee's were lucky in 2003 and 2004. They made some plays, but they got some of the most lucky ass bounces I've ever seen. And I'm still bitter at the homeplate umpire for squeezing Rincon against Matsui.

But lucky bounces and squeezing happen, and it always seems so completely un-justified when it happens to "your" team, and completely logical when your team benefits...

:gulp: oh well. Good luck with that whole shrew thing.

Tiger23
09-25-2006, 01:14 PM
We get one week, and if and when we are eliminated, I am firmly on the Detroit bandwagon, at least as far as the AL Central goes. I can only hope we're in a position to go into Minny and knock the Twins out of the division race in front of their fans. And yes, I am a vindictive shrew. :cool:

Very nice Mary. I was telling a few of my buddies that even if Chicago is eliminated going into Minny there is some hope that they will try to help the Tigers out as the dislike between Minnesota and Chicago seems to be much greater than that between Chicago and Detroit. Judging from this board anyway.

If you guys were to pass Minnesota it would go certainly be remembered for ages. If not I'm happy to welcome a few more fans into our corner, even if it is for a short period of time.

Iwritecode
09-25-2006, 01:28 PM
Very nice Mary. I was telling a few of my buddies that even if Chicago is eliminated going into Minny there is some hope that they will try to help the Tigers out as the dislike between Minnesota and Chicago seems to be much greater than that between Chicago and Detroit. Judging from this board anyway.

Yeah, Ozzie is helping the Tigers out by pitching McCarthy and Haegar against the Twins rather than Buehrle and Contreras. Take that however you wish... :wink:

Honestly, I don't get the big deal with who has to face who in the first round. You have to face one of them with the possibility of facing the other in the second round anyway.

MarySwiss
09-25-2006, 02:27 PM
So... Do 'piranah-tas' eat shrews?? :)



I'd answer this, but I don't want to get banned. :tongue:

I want Mags back
09-25-2006, 02:37 PM
Personally, I wish they eliminated divisions and interleague play, and play a balanced schedule. Top four teams make the playoffs. The new wrinkle would be the top seed gets rewarded with 4 home games instead of 3 in the first round of the playoffs. I know this won't happen, but I think the format would be better than what it is now.

id like to see a hockey style playoff. 8 teams per league, top 3 based on divisions. Id have the 1st two rounds bet of 5, LCS and WS best of 7

sox1970
09-25-2006, 02:49 PM
id like to see a hockey style playoff. 8 teams per league, top 3 based on divisions. Id have the 1st two rounds bet of 5, LCS and WS best of 7

Horrible idea.

The day MLB expands to more than 4 teams per league is the day I stop being a baseball fan.

Oblong
09-25-2006, 02:56 PM
The current system is the best we can expect given the needs of the owners. They will not give up the extra round. Any expansion beyond this will be very bad too.

My fear is that eventually baseball will expand even further and we'll need 4 divisions per league and then they'll another wild card and give first round byes. Then we'll end up with the NFL style.

I like the wild card because it rewards a great team stuck behind an even greater team. But as long as it's just one.

Tiger23
09-25-2006, 03:12 PM
Yeah, Ozzie is helping the Tigers out by pitching McCarthy and Haegar against the Twins rather than Buehrle and Contreras. Take that however you wish... :wink:

Honestly, I don't get the big deal with who has to face who in the first round. You have to face one of them with the possibility of facing the other in the second round anyway.

The point of finishing ahead of the Twins is to avoid starting the series and playing more games in the Metrodome. The Twins have a legitimate home field advantage. To take that away from them would be a huge plus if the Tigers somehow met up with them in the playoffs.

MadetoOrta
09-25-2006, 03:19 PM
Congrats Tigers23. Best of luck in the playoffs.

Tiger23
09-25-2006, 06:17 PM
Much Appreciated.

jenn2080
09-25-2006, 06:20 PM
Much Appreciated.


Ya congrats. Enjoy yourself!

palehozenychicty
09-25-2006, 06:29 PM
I'm happy for the Tigers, and they seem to have righted themselves just in time.

BTW, is anybody going to start a game thread?