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OzzieBall2004
09-23-2006, 09:54 PM
The White Sox have never made consecutive trips to the postseason....ever. not once.

I know that doesn't make anyone feel better, and it certainly doesn't excuse the teams sub .500 performance in the second half, but I think it's notable.

Myrtle72
09-23-2006, 09:59 PM
Yeah, did already know that...

but hey, there's never a time like the present! I'd be happy to see yet another broken record. :smile:

Kub_Killer_15
09-23-2006, 10:03 PM
If we don't make it to the playoffs this year... we will make it in 2007 and 2008 to kill that ugly stat.

Lip Man 1
09-23-2006, 10:31 PM
Kub:

And to take it one step beyond...

The White Sox are the last of the 'original' pre expansion franchises to have never done this.

All of the organizations that were in place before 1961 have turned this trick.

St. Louis Browns/Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Philadelphia/Kansas City/Oakland Athletics
Washington Senators/Minnesota Twins
New York Yankees
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers
Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
New York/San Francisco Giants
St. Louis Cardinals

Lip

OzzieBall2004
09-23-2006, 11:07 PM
Kub:

And to take it one step beyond...

The White Sox are the last of the 'original' pre expansion franchises to have never done this.

All of the organizations that were in place before 1961 have turned this trick.

St. Louis Browns/Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Philadelphia/Kansas City/Oakland Athletics
Washington Senators/Minnesota Twins
New York Yankees
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers
Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
New York/San Francisco Giants
St. Louis Cardinals

Lip

Interesting. Nice contribution to this.

thomas35forever
09-23-2006, 11:13 PM
One of the kids in my class brags that the Cubs have won back-to-back World Series before and the Sox haven't. I say "So what? They haven't won in like a century or so."

Kub_Killer_15
09-23-2006, 11:20 PM
One of the kids in my class brags that the Cubs have won back-to-back World Series before and the Sox haven't. I say "So what? They haven't won in like a century or so."

I would fail that kid:tongue:

thomas35forever
09-23-2006, 11:33 PM
I would fail that kid:tongue:
Are you a teacher? If you are, go ahead and do it. He's an idiot. He bet me a dollar the Red Sox would get to the playoffs this year. Easiest bet I'll ever win.:tongue:

23Ventura
09-24-2006, 12:11 AM
One of the kids in my class brags that the Cubs have won back-to-back World Series before and the Sox haven't. I say "So what? They haven't won in like a century or so."
I actually knew a guy that said after the 2005 season, "So what if they won the World Series, the Cubs won 4 out of 6 against them." Not only is this incorrect, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. This guy also bragged about how the Cubs have swept the Sox twice, and the Sox have only swept the Cubs once. When I tell him that the Sox have a winning record against the Cubs in interleague play, he says that doesn't matter. What a moron.

chisoxfanatic
09-24-2006, 12:27 AM
One of the kids in my class brags that the Cubs have won back-to-back World Series before and the Sox haven't. I say "So what? They haven't won in like a century or so."

We also have won more World Series than them (anything pre-1901 doesn't matter in my book). And, we KNOW the feeling of seeing our team win the World Series. I'll still be happy this offseason. 2005 brought a lot of peace to me that will last a long time.

Jerko
09-24-2006, 08:51 AM
I swear one of the new banners (the one with all the years the Sox have made the post-season on it) says 1900 and 1901. I know it's 106 years ago but it's more recent than "never".

CallMeNuts
09-24-2006, 09:32 AM
I swear one of the new banners (the one with all the years the Sox have made the post-season on it) says 1900 and 1901. I know it's 106 years ago but it's more recent than "never".

The American League first played in 1901.

cbotnyse
09-24-2006, 09:37 AM
The American League first played in 1901.youre nuts

Grzegorz
09-24-2006, 10:54 AM
Kub:

And to take it one step beyond...

The White Sox are the last of the 'original' pre expansion franchises to have never done this.

All of the organizations that were in place before 1961 have turned this trick.

St. Louis Browns/Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Philadelphia/Kansas City/Oakland Athletics
Washington Senators/Minnesota Twins
New York Yankees
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers
Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
New York/San Francisco Giants
St. Louis Cardinals

Lip

Lip, if the consecutive years wasn't enough now you point out that our brethren from pre-expansion days have in their history made the playoffs in consecutive years...

Way to rain on my parade... :D:

viagracat
09-24-2006, 11:26 AM
One of the kids in my class brags that the Cubs have won back-to-back World Series before and the Sox haven't. I say "So what? They haven't won in like a century or so."

Anyone that has to go back 100 years for bragging rights should be forced to wear a dunce cap and sit in the corner for the rest of the semester! Yikes. :D:

Lip Man 1
09-24-2006, 12:13 PM
Let's review:

September 12, 1900 - The White Sox beat the Cleveland Blues 12 - 4 in Chicago to clinch the pennant. However the American League isn’t recognized as an ‘official’ major league by organized baseball at the time.

Lip

CallMeNuts
09-24-2006, 05:57 PM
youre nuts

To be a little more specific, "the American League first declared itself to be a major league on January 21, 1901. ... The White Sox defeated Cleveland 8-2 in the first "official" American League game on April 22, 1901."
per http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/cws/history/timeline01.jsp

Additionally, the World Series, between the NL and the AL began in 1903.
per http://www.baseball-almanac.com/ws/wsmenu.shtml

So the White Sox were not going to the post-season before their first World Series appearnace in 1906 when they defeated the Cubs.

CallMeNuts
09-24-2006, 06:01 PM
Let's review:

September 12, 1900 - The White Sox beat the Cleveland Blues 12 - 4 in Chicago to clinch the pennant. However the American League isn’t recognized as an ‘official’ major league by organized baseball at the time.

Lip

Agree. And additionally, there was no "post-season" in 1900.

One could say that the Sox finished in first place in 1993 and 1994, but as we all know, the 1994 season was not completed and there was no post-season.

Hitmen77
09-24-2006, 08:54 PM
Kub:

And to take it one step beyond...

The White Sox are the last of the 'original' pre expansion franchises to have never done this.

All of the organizations that were in place before 1961 have turned this trick.

St. Louis Browns/Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Philadelphia/Kansas City/Oakland Athletics
Washington Senators/Minnesota Twins
New York Yankees
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers
Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
New York/San Francisco Giants
St. Louis Cardinals

Lip

One of the kids in my class brags that the Cubs have won back-to-back World Series before and the Sox haven't. I say "So what? They haven't won in like a century or so."

Who cares if the Cubs made the post season back to back when Teddy Roosevelt was President? As far as I'm concerned, this stat is practically meaningless today.

I'll take being 2005 WORLD CHAMPS a million times over what the Cubs have to brag about for their accomplishments in 19-freaking-08.

The only thing that matters to me right now is that the Sox are in a good position to contend again next year. I'll take that over the Cubs current mess of a team anyday.

Myrtle72
09-24-2006, 08:57 PM
Who cares if the Cubs made the post season back to back when Teddy Roosevelt was President? As far as I'm concerned, this stat is practically meaningless.

I'll take being 2005 WORLD CHAMPS a million times over what the Cubs have to brag about.

So, are you saying that in 30 or 40 years our 2005 championship won't matter? :tongue:

(Not really sticking up for the Cubs, just giving a little perspective)

Hitmen77
09-24-2006, 09:00 PM
So, are you saying that in 30 or 40 years our 2005 championship won't matter? :tongue:

(Not really sticking up for the Cubs, just giving a little perspective)


You're comparison doesn't give a good perspective. It implies that the Cubs actually won a championship in 1976 or so. 30-40 years from now, many of us will still be alive and 2005 will still mean something.

100 years from now, I certainly would argue that the 2005 championship will be essentially meaningless to people alive in the 22nd century.

TDog
09-24-2006, 10:32 PM
I actually knew a guy that said after the 2005 season, "So what if they won the World Series, the Cubs won 4 out of 6 against them." Not only is this incorrect, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. This guy also bragged about how the Cubs have swept the Sox twice, and the Sox have only swept the Cubs once. When I tell him that the Sox have a winning record against the Cubs in interleague play, he says that doesn't matter. What a moron.


A Cubs fan at work the other day was talking about how the White Sox won't make the playoffs. I told him that would bother me if the Sox hadn't won the World Series last year. By the the way, my team has won a World Series in my lifetime. Not every team has.

The White Sox didn't go to the 1918 World Series because the war forced the players into defense jobs and the season was shortened. The Sox didn't go to the 1920 World Series because eight of their players were suspended going into the last weekend in a tight race.

Fenway
09-25-2006, 12:06 AM
Before the White Sox won it all last year one could make a very strong case that of the orginal 16 teams from 1901, the White Sox had the worst history.

Only the Phillies matched the White Sox for total failure.....

Railsplitter
09-25-2006, 09:14 AM
Oddly enough, the sox best post pennant finish was second in 1920.
the 1994 season was never finished :mad:

tony1972
09-25-2006, 10:53 AM
We also have won more World Series than them (anything pre-1901 doesn't matter in my book). And, we KNOW the feeling of seeing our team win the World Series. I'll still be happy this offseason. 2005 brought a lot of peace to me that will last a long time.

I know exactly what you mean..bitter pills aren't so hard to swallow as they were before last year's championship..