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BNLSox
09-21-2006, 12:11 PM
I'm sorry, but the last thing I want to receive after my favorite team mails it in last night to effectively end this listless season is an email from whitesox.com that contains a letter from Buerhle. Am I alone in being outraged that they would send that today?!

Leave us alone White Sox marketers. You've taken our money and our hearts, leave us in peace for these remaining solemn days of '06.

Baby Fisk
09-21-2006, 12:12 PM
I'm sorry, but the last thing I want to receive after my favorite team mails it in last night to effectively end this listless season is an email from whitesox.com that contains a letter from Buerhle. Am I alone in being outraged that they would send that today?!

Leave us alone White Sox marketers. You've taken our money and our hearts, leave us in peace for these remaining solemn days of '06.

Linky? What does the letter say?

MarySwiss
09-21-2006, 12:15 PM
I'm sorry, but the last thing I want to receive after my favorite team mails it in last night to effectively end this listless season is an email from whitesox.com that contains a letter from Buerhle. Am I alone in being outraged that they would send that today?!

Leave us alone White Sox marketers. You've taken our money and our hearts, leave us in peace for these remaining solemn days of '06.
You neglected to mention that the letter--which was written before the homestand began--was all "rah-rah, we can do it, guys!" Adding insult to injury. I hated it too, and I also think whitesox.com should have pulled it.

BNLSox
09-21-2006, 12:16 PM
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/cws/fan_forum/greetings_from.jsp?date=092106

Yeah, as Mary said, the letter suggests that the team still has a chance. It was clearly written before yesterday and there is zero reason they should have sent it out. It was the last thing I expected to read this morning.

cleanwsox
09-21-2006, 12:17 PM
Before the homestand... valid.

Now..... just makes me more sad.

:whiner:

35th&Shields
09-21-2006, 12:17 PM
Linky? What does the letter say?

Note: Since this is an email sent directly to me, a personal correspondence of sorts, there are no fair use issues and I posted it in its entirey.

Dear Chicago White Sox fans,

As we come to the end of the 2006 regular season, it looks like once again we are going to be pushed to the limit in order to bring home another championship to the city of Chicago. Although we have not always performed to the high level that we anticipated at the beginning of the season, we still believe that with the team we have in the clubhouse, we can play deep into October and defend our World Series title.

There certainly has been a lot of pressure on us to repeat, and we still know we can make a push here in the final two weeks. With a week of games at home and the final three games in Minnesota, if we play with the capability that we know we have, there isn't anything this team can't do. With Ozzie as our manager, we really feel that we can put ourselves in position to win these games in the final two weeks and secure one of the playoff spots.

I do have to say thank you for all your support this season, through the good and the bad. We knew the fans would come out in force after our World Championship, but we never imagined the outpouring of people that came to the parade and have come out to see us at the ballpark this season. We are close to setting the all-time attendance record at U.S. Cellular Field, and we as players feed off your enthusiasm, so you have played a big part in our success at home this season.

I just want to once again take the chance to thank all of our great fans out there. Not only have the fans at U.S. Cellular continued to prove themselves as the best fans in baseball, but we have seen so many more of you at our road games, whether it be Minnesota and Detroit, or Los Angeles and New York. So thank you again for all your support, and we will do everything we can to make sure that the greatest fans in baseball get to watch their team late in October again.

Sincerely,

Mark Buehrle

cheezheadsoxfan
09-21-2006, 12:18 PM
I was annoyed as well. I love Mark but the timing stunk.:(:

MarySwiss
09-21-2006, 12:18 PM
Linky? What does the letter say?
It was an e-mail, so I don't have a link. If you PM me your e-mail addy, I'll forward it to you.

Edit: oops, never mind!

Baby Fisk
09-21-2006, 12:22 PM
No credit for the fans in Toronto? ***?! :angry:

WhiteSoxRich
09-21-2006, 12:29 PM
I'm sorry, but the last thing I want to receive after my favorite team mails it in last night to effectively end this listless season is an email from whitesox.com that contains a letter from Buerhle. Am I alone in being outraged that they would send that today?!

Leave us alone White Sox marketers. You've taken our money and our hearts, leave us in peace for these remaining solemn days of '06.

When I got mine, I was like "Are you ****ing kidding me!!

Absolutley this should have never gone out.

itsnotrequired
09-21-2006, 12:29 PM
When I first saw the e-mail subject, I figured it was going to be an apology letter from Buehrle.

Myrtle72
09-21-2006, 12:32 PM
When I first saw the e-mail subject, I figured it was going to be an apology letter from Buehrle.

Ha. I actually thought the same thing.

MarySwiss
09-21-2006, 12:33 PM
When I first saw the e-mail subject, I figured it was going to be an apology letter from Buehrle.
I'm not sure what I expected, but it sure as hell wasn't what I read. I don't blame Mark for this; when he wrote it, no doubt he believed it. But IMO, there's no way it should have been sent under the circumstances. They must have people on staff who could have written a quick filler if they felt they absolutely HAD to send out an e-mail.

EDIT: BTW, since this is an e-mail, we can always reply to it. I plan to.

southside rocks
09-21-2006, 12:35 PM
LOL! I saw it pop up on my mail screen just as two co-workers and I were discussing who the Sox should get in a trade for Buehrle this winter. :tongue:

viagracat
09-21-2006, 12:36 PM
:hawk

"Right size, wrong date".

MarySwiss
09-21-2006, 12:38 PM
Oh, ****! I just got ANOTHER e-mail. This one's from MLB.com Insider and the subject is "The Final Days Promise to Be Thrilling." At least it says we're fighting it out with the Twins and Tigers, but it still makes me want to go drown myself in the pool. :angry:

DaBears
09-21-2006, 12:42 PM
When I got mine, I was like "Are you ****ing kidding me!!

Absolutley this should have never gone out.

I just deleted the email...didnt even want to read that ****

jenn2080
09-21-2006, 12:46 PM
I read the first line and deleted it. I could not read it!:whiner:

MarySwiss
09-21-2006, 12:47 PM
Here's my reply (which probably no one there will read):

UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, DO YOU REALLY THINK SOX FANS APPRECIATED THE LETTER FROM BUEHRLE, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY WRITTEN BEFORE THE HOMESTAND STARTED? RUBBING SALT IN OUR WOUNDS SEEMS LIKE A BAD IDEA TO ME.

Chisox003
09-21-2006, 12:52 PM
I like how some people actually think it was written by Mark :rolling:

This seems like a PR move trying to shed some positive light on a ****ty situation. Unfortunately they really messed up the timing. I deleted it after I read the first line.

How often do these "letters" get sent? I know I've recieved one before but just deleted it.

MarySwiss
09-21-2006, 12:58 PM
I like how some people actually think it was written by Mark :rolling:

This seems like a PR move trying to shed some positive light on a ****ty situation. Unfortunately they really messed up the timing. I deleted it after I read the first line.

How often do these "letters" get sent? I know I've recieved one before but just deleted it.

Sorry, but I think it's very likely it was written--or at least a draft was--by Mark. He's employed by the Sox and it's four paragraphs, not a book. As for your question about "how often," I don't think there's any regular schedule. I've received probably about four or five at various times this season.

Chicken Dinner
09-21-2006, 12:58 PM
Did Mark have any explaination for his 50 less strikeouts, 14 more homers allowed, 24 more earned runs, and ERA increase of 1.67 from 2005 to 2006?

And his name is misspelled in the thread title.

Baby Fisk
09-21-2006, 01:00 PM
I like how some people actually think it was written by Mark :rolling:


If you knew something was being sent to the public with your name on it, you'd probably take at least a cursory glance. The players may not write these things word for word, but they have some input in the final product.

BA: The Hitman
09-21-2006, 01:02 PM
What horrible timing for that letter. Wouldn't you think that they could have someone who is not having such a s****y year as Buehrle write the letter. He should have said something like "We know in the clubhouse that we can do it, but I'm not going to make any contributions at all because I really suck this year".

Another note, the amount of phone calls I have recieved in the past two days offering me free Sox tickets for these next 4 games has been ridiculous. But, I can't do anything else besides turn them down.

southside rocks
09-21-2006, 01:06 PM
My last Ozzie Plan tickets are for tonight. I'm going, as much to say goodbye to summer at the Cell as to see the game ... I was offered some great seats for Sunday's game, and I declined. It just hurts too much, now, to see this team play. One of my co-workers, a casual fan, even commented on how listless the Sox appear to be on the field. :(:

BA: The Hitman
09-21-2006, 01:13 PM
My last Ozzie Plan tickets are for tonight. I'm going, as much to say goodbye to summer at the Cell as to see the game ... I was offered some great seats for Sunday's game, and I declined. It just hurts too much, now, to see this team play. One of my co-workers, a casual fan, even commented on how listless the Sox appear to be on the field. :(:


My last game for the Ozzie plan is sunday. As much as I'd like to say goodbye to the cell, I would much rather stay home and watch the Bears dominate the Vikings

bryPt
09-21-2006, 01:15 PM
ughhhh. :?: GREAT TIMING.

I cannot open it until I get home, so thank for posting it. Now I cannot wait to reply.

Normally, Sox marketing is on the ball. They dropped it this time.

My last Ozzie plan game is Saturday. I offered them free to 20 people, all Sox fans, and they all turned them down. Depression was the major reason. I will go for one last kick butt brat and say goodbye to USCF for the year.

Chez
09-21-2006, 01:16 PM
If you knew something was being sent to the public with your name on it, you'd probably take at least a cursory glance. The players may not write these things word for word, but they have some input in the final product.

C'mon. There's absolutely no way Mark wrote it, reviewed a draft or even knows it was sent out.

Gavin
09-21-2006, 01:17 PM
I am outraged and demand nothing less than a free "$5 off anything on mlb.com" coupon.

stl_sox_fan
09-21-2006, 01:21 PM
I like how some people actually think it was written by Mark :rolling:.

And here I thought all season long, Pods, Jose, Paulie, etc. were just emailing me. Now I find out it's not from the heart, not from them and it goes out to everyone? Oh Blind Carbon Copy feature, you wound me again!!!!!


But seriously, this one should've been 2nd guessed before sending it all things considering.

mwc44
09-21-2006, 01:21 PM
...Adding insult to injury. I hated it too, and I also think whitesox.com should have pulled it.

When I got mine, I was like "Are you ****ing kidding me!! Absolutley this should have never gone out.

Here's my reply (which probably no one there will read):
UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, DO YOU REALLY THINK SOX FANS APPRECIATED THE LETTER FROM BUEHRLE, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY WRITTEN BEFORE THE HOMESTAND STARTED? RUBBING SALT IN OUR WOUNDS SEEMS LIKE A BAD IDEA TO ME.

... everything you all said (which is right on the money), goes double, triple and home run for me!

daveeym
09-21-2006, 01:23 PM
When I first saw the e-mail subject, I figured it was going to be an apology letter from Buehrle.:D: I was hoping it would be too but I figured it wouldn't be so I deleted it without even reading it.

stl_sox_fan
09-21-2006, 01:26 PM
ughhhh. :?: GREAT TIMING.

I cannot open it until I get home, so thank for posting it. Now I cannot wait to reply.

Normally, Sox marketing is on the ball. They dropped it this time.

My last Ozzie plan game is Saturday. I offered them free to 20 people, all Sox fans, and they all turned them down. Depression was the major reason. I will go for one last kick butt brat and say goodbye to USCF for the year.

Have a churro for me bro!

Chicken Dinner
09-21-2006, 01:26 PM
I think the senders are going to be surprised at the amount of people that "unsubscribe".

MarySwiss
09-21-2006, 02:07 PM
Well, my reply to whitesox.com just bounced back because it would "put the account over quota."

Why am I not surprised?

ChetChat
09-21-2006, 02:57 PM
Well, my reply to whitesox.com just bounced back because it would "put the account over quota."

Why am I not surprised?

I think I'll "reply" to Mark, too, and ask him if he misses tarp sliding.
I thought the email was a joke from one of my friends who knows what a huge Buehrle fan I (still) am. And I also thought, "uggh, not a good time to be funny. Not.":(:

ChiSoxGirl
09-21-2006, 03:28 PM
I got this e-mail this morning and thank goodness I was alone in my classroom when I opened it because I blurted out, "Are you kidding me with this?!" I just read the first paragraph- the preview of the letter, if you will- and didn't even bother clicking on the link; can't put myself through that. :whiner:

Baby Fisk
09-21-2006, 03:50 PM
C'mon. There's absolutely no way Mark wrote it, reviewed a draft or even knows it was sent out.
He does see the final product before it goes out with his name.

The Immigrant
09-21-2006, 04:01 PM
He does see the final product before it goes out with his name.

I would be surprised if at least his agent did not.

doogiec
09-21-2006, 04:24 PM
What's next, an email from Magglio Ordonez letting us know how much he's enjoyed playing in Detroit this season?

CaptainBallz
09-21-2006, 04:35 PM
All things considered, this is a dose of good, mean-spirited comedy.

BNLSox
09-21-2006, 04:35 PM
What's next, an email from Magglio Ordonez letting us know how much he's enjoyed playing in Detroit this season?

Or from Jose Valentin and El Duque talking about the Mets chances.

Baby Fisk
09-21-2006, 04:40 PM
:hurt
"Turns out, I really like rounding the bases in white shoes. I thought they would look too hokey at first, but when I'm making my home run jog, muttering "**** YOU KENNY, **** YOU KENNY, **** YOU KENNY," under my breath, it feels great. Yeah, damn! See you in October!"

DumpJerry
09-21-2006, 05:19 PM
I never read any of the "letters" sent during the season under the players' names. I don't think they were ever written by any of the actual players and I could pretty much figure out that they would be rah rah letters. Now, if AJ or Paulie sent one out talking about their babies being up all night with a fever or somthing, then I would think the letters were genuine.

Hangar18
09-21-2006, 05:37 PM
well, heres the email I got from him just now:

Dear Hangar,

Im sorry for the way I've pitched this season, and for the pitching staff for that matter. We just weren't into it this year. I'm pretty tired myself. Thanks and see you in 07! MB

83 ALROY
09-21-2006, 06:06 PM
Hopefully there will be some sort of follow up letter from the SOX P.R. department apologizing for this affront to good taste, but I doubt it.

The last two games of my Ozzie Plan are Saturday and Sunday. I plan on going to both, but I really don't look forward to them. I may just hang out in the Bullpen Sports bar on Sunday watching the Bears, at least they're looking good.

Sox-o-matic
09-21-2006, 07:42 PM
Dear Mark,

My condolences go out to you on posting your first sub-.500 season of your career. May your command of the strike zone be with you as you work through this troubled time.

P.S. If you don't think the 2006 Sox are dead, why have you been holding the shovel since July?

My sympathies,

Sox-o-Matic

harwar
09-22-2006, 08:57 AM
I never read any of the "letters" sent during the season under the players' names. I don't think they were ever written by any of the actual players and I could pretty much figure out that they would be rah rah letters. Now, if AJ or Paulie sent one out talking about their babies being up all night with a fever or somthing, then I would think the letters were genuine.

Yea,when you put your name to one of those contracts they own you for a time.The players have nothing to do with this type of PR.
His agent would have been notified.

LongLiveFisk
09-22-2006, 09:11 AM
I read the first couple of sentences and that was it. I'm not sure why any of these guys would think we still have faith in them when they clearly don't have it in themselves. :?:

Chez
09-22-2006, 09:37 AM
He does see the final product before it goes out with his name.

Your basis for this statement is what?

soxinem1
09-22-2006, 10:29 AM
I like how some people actually think it was written by Mark :rolling:

This seems like a PR move trying to shed some positive light on a ****ty situation. Unfortunately they really messed up the timing. I deleted it after I read the first line.

How often do these "letters" get sent? I know I've recieved one before but just deleted it.

Especially with that "with Ozzie as our leader there is nothing we cannot do' line.

mandmandm
09-22-2006, 10:41 AM
Hopefully there will be some sort of follow up letter from the SOX P.R. department apologizing for this affront to good taste, but I doubt it.

The last two games of my Ozzie Plan are Saturday and Sunday. I plan on going to both, but I really don't look forward to them. I may just hang out in the Bullpen Sports bar on Sunday watching the Bears, at least they're looking good.

Apology came in the form of a spam email from the Sox hawking a rehabilitation center "Athletico" this morning. Brooks must have packed his bags last week just like the players. Though maybe a rehab center is just what Sox fans need to get over this season.

kitekrazy
09-22-2006, 12:08 PM
What do you want them to say?

We suck. Stay Home.

Baby Fisk
09-22-2006, 12:18 PM
Your basis for this statement is what?
I sent an e-mail to the Sox asking what was the process for creating these letters. They confirmed that the players have some participation in the writing of them, and see the final product before it goes out.

Hangar18
09-22-2006, 12:27 PM
Dear Mark,

My condolences go out to you on posting your first sub-.500 season of your career. May your command of the strike zone be with you as you work through this troubled time.

P.S. If you don't think the 2006 Sox are dead, why have you been holding the shovel since July?

My sympathies,

Sox-o-Matic

Heh heh

ode to veeck
09-22-2006, 12:37 PM
well, heres the email I got from him just now:

Dear Hangar,

Im sorry for the way I've pitched this season, and for the pitching staff for that matter. We just weren't into it this year. I'm pretty tired myself. Thanks and see you in 07! MB

Was that supposed to be in teal Henry?

Chez
09-22-2006, 02:27 PM
I sent an e-mail to the Sox asking what was the process for creating these letters. They confirmed that the players have some participation in the writing of them, and see the final product before it goes out.

Then I stand corrected (though I'm not sure I believe them).

Martinigirl
09-22-2006, 03:53 PM
Then I stand corrected (though I'm not sure I believe them).

I don't know about the latest email, but I am quite confident that the one attributed to Paulie last winter was legit. He was talking about his son and how lucky he was to have both sets of grandparents around. He went on to say something about the baby be the first grandchild for all of the grandparents, so they were happy to watch the baby. Then he went on to talk about baseball and coming back to the Sox.

I just don't think the PR department would make up something like that. But I would think it was a lot easier for the players to write something on their own before the season, or even in the first half, than to try to write something all perky and hopefully now.