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Procol Harum
09-21-2006, 08:34 AM
As many of you have expressed, I also was swept up in the wonder of the 2005 season, allowing myself to opine at various enraptured moments that the World Series victory was enough to satiate my baseball desires for the rest of my life.

Nope. The unraveling of the 2006 Sox has irritated the heck out of me--and the sight of watching the Yankees celebrate their 9th straight division championship last night was absolutely infuriating; the fact that this bunch couldn't even get their sorry butts in the flippin' playoffs two years in a row--much less win a 2nd world championship--makes me one unhappy camper! Yep, I'm still a White Sox fan--angry, surly, and demanding that his team perform no matter how many times they come up short.

October26
09-21-2006, 08:51 AM
I too was aggravated watching the Yankees television network which is what ESPN has been all these years and wll contiue to be. :angry:

Yes, I have the fire. I want Sox management to be as aggravated as I am right and improve this team for 2007. So what if we get 90+ wins - not makng it to the playoffs is unacceptable. I believe in Kenny (and Ozzie and Jerry) and I EXPECT for him/them to improve our team for the 2007 season.

batmanZoSo
09-21-2006, 08:54 AM
It is frustrating to be one and done, yet again. We have the most resources and this is Chicago. We should own this division.

Myrtle72
09-21-2006, 08:56 AM
I was also irritated watching the Yankees celebrate. Especially since they didn't even win the game last night! I mean seriously, c'mon now.

:mad:

I'm kinda nervous that we're going to see a New York WS. Everyone says they Mets can't do it, but the stats say otherwise. I really don't think I'm in the mood to watch New York celebrate all the money they have right now.

Procol Harum
09-21-2006, 09:13 AM
It is frustrating to be one and done, yet again. We have the most resources and this is Chicago. We should own this division.

You got that right--removing the rose-colored glasses that come with finally achieving "Next Year" in 2005--the fact that over the last 20 years we should be lagging behind the likes of the low-budget operation in Minnesota is a stunning indictment of our management and ownership on the South Side.

samram
09-21-2006, 09:17 AM
It is frustrating to be one and done, yet again. We have the most resources and this is Chicago. We should own this division.

Yep. The standard is the World Series. Not the division, not 90 wins. Not winning the WS this season is a failure and I think KW agrees.

kevingrt
09-21-2006, 09:17 AM
Just to look on the bright side of things. It's not like we made a giant leap backwards. We still have a chance to win 90 games and last time I checked that is well above .500. This team has the makings of a World Series team, I just think we have to get rid of some personalities and players. I have no doubts in KW making this team a World Series winner next year. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take three steps forward and I think thats what KW is going to do. Despite the fact that no one thought we were in any position to take a step back this year.

CaptainBallz
09-21-2006, 09:20 AM
It is frustrating to be one and done, yet again. We have the most resources and this is Chicago. We should own this division.

Couldn't agree more. This is pathetic. So with no October they should be plenty, PLENTY rested to dominate the division next year---

And let's all say this together--- NEXT YEAR:angry: :angry: :angry:

BNLSox
09-21-2006, 09:28 AM
And everyone should actually cheer for our division rivals. As we've seen, the games in october still hurt your team the next year. Fatigue was a big factor in our downfall. So lets go Tigers and Twins. Play long hard games this October.

Iwritecode
09-21-2006, 09:31 AM
Just to look on the bright side of things. It's not like we made a giant leap backwards. We still have a chance to win 90 games and last time I checked that is well above .500.

Yea. Now we get to add another 3rd place finish to our collection of 2nd and 3rd place finishes. I'm pretty sure this team has more of them than any other team in MLB in the past decade or so.

That's our Sox. Always good enough to come up just short... :(:

MarySwiss
09-21-2006, 09:48 AM
I'll always have the fire, but as I said before--and anyone who doesn't agree, I DON'T CARE!--I think this team, had they made the playoffs, would have gone all the way. With the talent they had, they should have dominated this division easily. If they don't make the playoffs, which is sure as hell what it looks like, I don't care how many games they wind up winning, to me, this season is a failure.

viagracat
09-21-2006, 10:55 AM
And everyone should actually cheer for our division rivals. As we've seen, the games in october still hurt your team the next year. Fatigue was a big factor in our downfall. So lets go Tigers and Twins. Play long hard games this October.

Not buying it. Those extra games were a YEAR ago. Highly tuned athletes fatigued because they played 11 extra games a year ago; that's too much of a stretch--for me, anyway-- to accept.

It's hard to repeat for all kinds of reasons and I think fatigue can be one of them, but I don't think last year's playoffs were the cause of that fatigue.

CHISOXFAN13
09-21-2006, 11:02 AM
I was also irritated watching the Yankees celebrate. Especially since they didn't even win the game last night! I mean seriously, c'mon now.

:mad:



I celebrated like a rock star in 2000 and we didn't win that game.

palehozenychicty
09-21-2006, 11:11 AM
It is frustrating to be one and done, yet again. We have the most resources and this is Chicago. We should own this division.

Exactly. This organization dwarfs the Indians, Twins, and Royals. Illitch has some cash with the success of the Red Wings, but still. We should reach the playoffs far more frequently. Period.

TDog
09-21-2006, 12:08 PM
... Yep, I'm still a White Sox fan--angry, surly, and demanding that his team perform no matter how many times they come up short.

This isn't directed at you, but considering all the man-love going on for Frank Thomas last weekend, how Sox fans were even applauding his home runs against the Sox in Chicago earlier this year and how easy it is for some people around here to cheer for the A's in the postseason, I seriously question how much fire a lot of fans had when the Sox still had a chance.

It means nothing to be angry about the White Sox underachieving if you didn't feel the fire about them achieving against a former player.

palehozenychicty
09-21-2006, 12:11 PM
I know this much, though. Despite the disappointment of this season, the Sox will improve in the offseason and return with rockets firing. Now we only have baseball to focus on and the front office will be ready. We can become the NE Patriots of baseball. The time is now.

CaptainBallz
09-21-2006, 12:14 PM
I know this much, though. Despite the disappointment of this season, the Sox will improve in the offseason and return with rockets firing. Now we only have baseball to focus on and the front office will be ready. We can become the NE Patriots of baseball. The time is now.

The time is more like in a week and a half, but I digress.:tongue:

palehozenychicty
09-21-2006, 12:15 PM
The time is more like in a week and a half, but I digress.:tongue:

Well, next year. :tongue:

Scottiehaswheels
09-21-2006, 12:31 PM
Tell me what you guys think but I'm thinking that 90 wins next year will take this division... I say that because I believe that Shapiro will get the Indians somewhat back on track, KC will be better next year most likely, Tigers pitching might be different if Rogers retires, and Liriano may/may not require Tommy John surgery... I think next year could be a true dogfight from start to finish... 4 teams all within 5 games of one another come September... Sorry if this is hijacking the thread but it seemed somewhat related...

MarySwiss
09-21-2006, 12:37 PM
Tell me what you guys think but I'm thinking that 90 wins next year will take this division... I say that because I believe that Shapiro will get the Indians somewhat back on track, KC will be better next year most likely, Tigers pitching might be different if Rogers retires, and Liriano may/may not require Tommy John surgery... I think next year could be a true dogfight from start to finish... 4 teams all within 5 games of one another come September... Sorry if this is hijacking the thread but it seemed somewhat related...

Seems related to me too. The fact that you're looking forward optimistically toward next season despite the pain we're alll going through right now is an excellent example--IMO--of Sox fan fire. And I agree; next year should be very exciting. :smile:

palehozenychicty
09-21-2006, 12:42 PM
Tell me what you guys think but I'm thinking that 90 wins next year will take this division... I say that because I believe that Shapiro will get the Indians somewhat back on track, KC will be better next year most likely, Tigers pitching might be different if Rogers retires, and Liriano may/may not require Tommy John surgery... I think next year could be a true dogfight from start to finish... 4 teams all within 5 games of one another come September... Sorry if this is hijacking the thread but it seemed somewhat related...

You have called it. This division is the future of MLB. ALeast, eat your heart out!

Jerko
09-21-2006, 12:43 PM
As fast as I can't wait for this season to end, I don't think anybody in this division stays close to the Sox next year.

southside rocks
09-21-2006, 12:56 PM
As many of you have expressed, I also was swept up in the wonder of the 2005 season, allowing myself to opine at various enraptured moments that the World Series victory was enough to satiate my baseball desires for the rest of my life.

Nope. The unraveling of the 2006 Sox has irritated the heck out of me--and the sight of watching the Yankees celebrate their 9th straight division championship last night was absolutely infuriating; the fact that this bunch couldn't even get their sorry butts in the flippin' playoffs two years in a row--much less win a 2nd world championship--makes me one unhappy camper! Yep, I'm still a White Sox fan--angry, surly, and demanding that his team perform no matter how many times they come up short.

Well, the 2005 season had the effect of making me a kinder, gentler fan in 2006. I think it was all that gratitude I felt, to Jerry and Kenny and Ozzie and the team.

The gratitude's still there, but it's shut away in the past, where it belongs. Watching this team play like crap this month has been doubly difficult because I've been taking a final farewell of 2005, in a way, also.

But going forward, as a fan I'm not so willing to accept the performance that I saw this year. If there are underachievers on the team, they need to be shipped out. If there are injuries, they need to be dealt with. If there are management issues, they need to be resolved.

Don't give us any garbage in 2007! Play like you mean it, or get out of town.

Gee, what am I trying to say here -- oh yeah -- WIN. OR DIE TRYING.

CaptainBallz
09-21-2006, 12:57 PM
As fast as I can't wait for this season to end, I don't think anybody in this division stays close to the Sox next year.

This is very hard to say. I thought that would be the case this year with noone but the fearsome Toons giving the Sox a run for their money. They still need to keep the run production while increasing speed and the focus on fundamentals while also tightening up the entire pitching staff. It's a tall order that could work marvelously or blow up in their faces. Again.

Fungo
09-21-2006, 01:12 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/output/deluca/cst-spt-deluca21.html

Some friends & I were talking about this same thing the other day. The gist of the articles is basically a bunch of "if I told you before the season started"...

...that the starting rotation would be healthy and spend little time on the DL
...Joe Crede would pick up right where he let off last year and carry it through the season
...JD would be a candidate for the MVP
...Thome would bounce back and hit 40+ HRs
...the Sox would have 3, maybe 4 hitter with 30+ Hrs
...Podsednik would have 40+ SB
...etc.

I think it would have been nasty to see this team clicking on all cylinders.