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JUribe1989
09-20-2006, 11:29 PM
How about those Rangers fans that have never had a World Series or even won a playoff series. Or how about the Cleveland Indian fans that came so close in the '90's but never could quite do it. These are just two examples of the hundreds of dissapointments in sports. We are some of the luckiest fans in the world to see our favorite team win the World Series. We are completely spoiled, and I appreciate the effort the Sox put forth in 2006.

Bright Spots and Things I appreciated
-A complete ass kicking of the Tigers all year minus this last series
-Matt Thornton and Mike MacDougal's coming out in the bullpen
-Joe Crede finally establishing himself as one of the best AL Third Baseman
-Jon Garland continuing his '05 dominance and becoming the Sox top starter
-One of the most dangerous 3-4-5 combinations in the last 10 years
-Pablo Ozuna, Rob Mackowiak, and Alex Cintron's fantastic offense off the bench
-Tadahito Iguchi puts up solid numbers and plays a very underrated second base
-Bobby Jenks 40+ saves and always the rapid up-and-down fist pump that came with them
-Brian Anderson's above average defense in CF
-Josh Fields HR in his first career AB a sign of things to come
-Jim Thome's fantastic personality, huge offensive numbers, and being the classiest baseball player Chicago may have ever seen
-Ross Gload coming up huge in so many situations and trying to make things happen
....................and above all

-Jermaine Dye's MVP Season

DumpJerry
09-20-2006, 11:34 PM
How about those Rangers fans that have never had a World Series or even won a playoff series. Or how about the Cleveland Indian fans that came so close in the '90's but never could quite do it. These are just two examples of the hundreds of dissapointments in sports. We are some of the luckiest fans in the world to see our favorite team win the World Series. We are completely spoiled, and I appreciate the effort the Sox put forth in 2006.

Bright Spots and Things I appreciated
-A complete ass kicking of the Tigers all year minus this last series
-Matt Thornton and Mike MacDougal's coming out in the bullpen
-Joe Crede finally establishing himself as one of the best AL Third Baseman
-Jon Garland continuing his '05 dominance and becoming the Sox top starter
-One of the most dangerous 3-4-5 combinations in the last 10 years
-Pablo Ozuna, Rob Mackowiak, and Alex Cintron's fantastic offense off the bench
-Tadahito Iguchi puts up solid numbers and plays a very underrated second base
-Bobby Jenks 40+ saves and always the rapid up-and-down fist pump that came with them
-Brian Anderson's above average defense in CF
-Josh Fields HR in his first career AB a sign of things to come
-Jim Thome's fantastic personality, huge offensive numbers, and being the classiest baseball player Chicago may have ever seen
-Ross Gload coming up huge in so many situations and trying to make things happen
....................and above all

-Jermaine Dye's MVP Season
............and it all adds up to staying at home in October when we knew in our heart of hearts it should have been our party.:whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

Chicken Dinner
09-20-2006, 11:35 PM
I guess the only thing to look forward to is spring training 2007. I'll be there.

Oh, it's Hard to appreciate defeat.

Myrtle72
09-20-2006, 11:37 PM
How about those Rangers fans that have never had a World Series or even won a playoff series. Or how about the Cleveland Indian fans that came so close in the '90's but never could quite do it. These are just two examples of the hundreds of dissapointments in sports. We are some of the luckiest fans in the world to see our favorite team win the World Series. We are completely spoiled, and I appreciate the effort the Sox put forth in 2006.

Bright Spots and Things I appreciated
-A complete ass kicking of the Tigers all year minus this last series
-Matt Thornton and Mike MacDougal's coming out in the bullpen
-Joe Crede finally establishing himself as one of the best AL Third Baseman
-Jon Garland continuing his '05 dominance and becoming the Sox top starter
-One of the most dangerous 3-4-5 combinations in the last 10 years
-Pablo Ozuna, Rob Mackowiak, and Alex Cintron's fantastic offense off the bench
-Tadahito Iguchi puts up solid numbers and plays a very underrated second base
-Bobby Jenks 40+ saves and always the rapid up-and-down fist pump that came with them
-Brian Anderson's above average defense in CF
-Josh Fields HR in his first career AB a sign of things to come
-Jim Thome's fantastic personality, huge offensive numbers, and being the classiest baseball player Chicago may have ever seen
-Ross Gload coming up huge in so many situations and trying to make things happen
....................and above all

-Jermaine Dye's MVP Season

It was all great. Too bad they don't have anything to show for it.

There are also a lot of things that can be improved. And I have confidance that they will be improved by 2007.

Let's go Sox.

Dan H
09-20-2006, 11:38 PM
I don't feel like being charitable. This September was brutal. And if they don't make big changes, 2007 will be another third place finish. This was no way to defend a championship. They were awful.

LuvSox
09-20-2006, 11:38 PM
All that for 3rd place?

DeadMoney
09-21-2006, 12:37 AM
All I'm going to say is thanks for opening night! That was awesome.

And for anyone looking to either be more dissapointed or slightly cheered up, check out WorldSeries.com (it'll only be there for a few more weeks as our reign as champions dissapears).

Sox-o-matic
09-21-2006, 12:38 AM
The Sox should be pretty much mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by the last game in Seattle. I'm going to try and get tickets because I really want to be there to boo the hell out of this team. I hope other people do as well.

The 2006 version of the Sox almost makes the 2003 team look like the 2005 team. This is the worst waste of talent I have ever seen. This team should have won close to 100 games or more, even in this division. Instead, we've been the whipping boys of KC, TB, Minnesota, etc.

I hope KW guts this team.

Nellie_Fox
09-21-2006, 01:06 AM
The Sox should be pretty much mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by the last game in Seattle. I'm going to try and get tickets because I really want to be there to boo the hell out of this team.Yeah, that'll help.:rolleyes:

Sox-o-matic
09-21-2006, 01:16 AM
Yeah, that'll help.:rolleyes:

Yeah I know it won't help or anything, but something about these guys getting a standing ovation for their terrific effort just doesn't sit well with me. We're not the Cubs over here. Had the Sox played to their level and lost the division because the Twins or Tigers were the better team, that would be another story. But August and September was seemingly about nothing other than the Twins and Tigers giving the Sox opportunity after opportunity to avenge all those early season losses to noncontenders and climb back on top of the standings. They failed miserably in all facets of the game this year and they should hear about it.

SOXintheBURGH
09-21-2006, 01:19 AM
What can you say, the dolphins just wanted it more.

You can't win the World Series every year, kids. Win one for the first time since 1917 and think its that easy to do it again? Fun season, will be wearing my Sox gear throughout the Steel City for the rest of the year, the playoffs, the offseason, and every season until this humble Horsemaster goes to pasture.

HotelWhiteSox
09-21-2006, 02:36 AM
Not as optimistic/happy as the first poster (Miguel Olivo also did the HR in first AB thing :tongue:), but come on, some of you are forgetting past years and really are spoiled. A week or two ago they were a few games away from the best record in the league. They are about 20 games over .500. All that with all the inconsistency, a rough 2nd half, and a few guys having down years. My main point, it's hard to repeat! I don't think the Sox were bad, but that the other teams were better. The Twins have gone on an insane run and deserve a playoff spot, and the Tigers have been hanging to their lead for most of the season. Too bad we're not in the NL, but we're in the AL Central and other teams were better. Sure, I'd love to be there again, but it also helps me appreciate how special last year was, everything has to go right for you.

35th&Shields
09-21-2006, 08:38 AM
The Sox should be pretty much mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by the last game in Seattle. I'm going to try and get tickets because I really want to be there to boo the hell out of this team. I hope other people do as well.

I'm a firm believer in people's right to boo when they've bought a ticket, but at this point what's done is done. This team will still win 90 games and spent almost the entire season in playoff contention. Is that what we were hoping for? Of course not. But this is still one of the best Chicago White Sox teams in a long time and hopefully they will take this year as fuel to add to the fire for the 2007 Chicago White Sox.

Frontman
09-21-2006, 09:23 AM
Well, I will be at the last game of the regular season at the Cell, and I'm going to cheer, not boo. I'll boo for a bad play, I'll boo for a bad call, I'll boo a loosing effort. But I will not boo a team that 12 months ago ended a 3-generation drought of having a White Sox championship. Ozzie and company gave me and my family something special last year, and unlike Yankees fans, I'm not a "What have you done for me this year?" type.

If 12 months from now, another year is wasted, then yeah, I might be a bit more bugged. But for 12 months I've had bragging rights that my team was the World Champs. Sunday is Fan Appreciation Day. I'm going to show my appreciation for a team that gave me something special. And that's the thing about it. Nothing says they can't do it again next year; unlike the Cubs for example who are years away from ever being competitive.

Front

jenn2080
09-21-2006, 09:28 AM
Well, I will be at the last game of the regular season at the Cell, and I'm going to cheer, not boo. I'll boo for a bad play, I'll boo for a bad call, I'll boo a loosing effort. But I will not boo a team that 12 months ago ended a 3-generation drought of having a White Sox championship. Ozzie and company gave me and my family something special last year, and unlike Yankees fans, I'm not a "What have you done for me this year?" type.

If 12 months from now, another year is wasted, then yeah, I might be a bit more bugged. But for 12 months I've had bragging rights that my team was the World Champs. Sunday is Fan Appreciation Day. I'm going to show my appreciation for a team that gave me something special. And that's the thing about it. Nothing says they can't do it again next year; unlike the Cubs for example who are years away from ever being competitive.

Front

:thumbsup:

Meixner007
09-21-2006, 09:32 AM
How about those Rangers fans that have never had a World Series or even won a playoff series. Or how about the Cleveland Indian fans that came so close in the '90's but never could quite do it. These are just two examples of the hundreds of dissapointments in sports. We are some of the luckiest fans in the world to see our favorite team win the World Series. We are completely spoiled, and I appreciate the effort the Sox put forth in 2006.

Bright Spots and Things I appreciated
-A complete ass kicking of the Tigers all year minus this last series
-Matt Thornton and Mike MacDougal's coming out in the bullpen
-Joe Crede finally establishing himself as one of the best AL Third Baseman
-Jon Garland continuing his '05 dominance and becoming the Sox top starter
-One of the most dangerous 3-4-5 combinations in the last 10 years
-Pablo Ozuna, Rob Mackowiak, and Alex Cintron's fantastic offense off the bench
-Tadahito Iguchi puts up solid numbers and plays a very underrated second base
-Bobby Jenks 40+ saves and always the rapid up-and-down fist pump that came with them
-Brian Anderson's above average defense in CF
-Josh Fields HR in his first career AB a sign of things to come
-Jim Thome's fantastic personality, huge offensive numbers, and being the classiest baseball player Chicago may have ever seen
-Ross Gload coming up huge in so many situations and trying to make things happen
....................and above all

-Jermaine Dye's MVP Season

:o:

But seriously, if you were to put that list up at the beginning of the season I would have felt pretty good about our chances.

CaptainBallz
09-21-2006, 09:39 AM
Well, I will be at the last game of the regular season at the Cell, and I'm going to cheer, not boo. I'll boo for a bad play, I'll boo for a bad call, I'll boo a loosing effort. But I will not boo a team that 12 months ago ended a 3-generation drought of having a White Sox championship. Ozzie and company gave me and my family something special last year, and unlike Yankees fans, I'm not a "What have you done for me this year?" type.

If 12 months from now, another year is wasted, then yeah, I might be a bit more bugged. But for 12 months I've had bragging rights that my team was the World Champs. Sunday is Fan Appreciation Day. I'm going to show my appreciation for a team that gave me something special. And that's the thing about it. Nothing says they can't do it again next year; unlike the Cubs for example who are years away from ever being competitive.

Front

All fine and dandy, but this team didn't end any drought. That team was at the Cell on opening day, received their rings, and walked off into history. This team slipped, stumbled, and flat-out sucked their way towards a third place finish in a division they should've dominated. An all around whirlwind of mediocrity shrouded in some great individual numbers.

Huge disappointment. They, at best, should receive a golf clap and a round of collective groans as they walk off the field on Sunday. There they go, the best third place team I've ever seen...

Frontman
09-21-2006, 10:04 AM
All fine and dandy, but this team didn't end any drought. That team was at the Cell on opening day, received their rings, and walked off into history. This team slipped, stumbled, and flat-out sucked their way towards a third place finish in a division they should've dominated. An all around whirlwind of mediocrity shrouded in some great individual numbers.

Huge disappointment. They, at best, should receive a golf clap and a round of collective groans as they walk off the field on Sunday. There they go, the best third place team I've ever seen...

Then by that argument, we never had a championship team. They won in October, they never played in 2006. Hence, they are not the defending champions. By that definition, you never have a defending champion, as obviously the Pittsburgh Steelers no longer have Jerome Bettis, you can't refer to them as defending champions; to use football as an example. Since El Duque isn't on the team, or even one bench player who was here last year, that makes this no longer the defending champions?

You can't have it both ways. You can't say they are the defending champs, then say aren't the Championship team. And if they aren't the defending championship team, why the anger then? Sure, its disappointing that your team doesn't make the playoffs, but THE MAJORITY of the leagues teams don't make it EVERY YEAR. This isn't hockey, is baseball. Division champions and two wild card teams. The rest go home. So this time, we go home.

Frustrating? Yes. But only to a point. If you hold them as the team that gave us a championship last year, then you can be even more disappointed. But in that, I've chosen to be disappointed, BUT supportive. Yes, this season may go down as opportunity lost, but it isn't a "total waste" as some say. If it was that, if I choose to always look at being World Champs or nothing else, then there is no point to baseball. Baseball is a game to enjoy. 162 of them. Which means you will win, you will loose. But every pitch, every swing, every moment could be something special.

I can appreciate what they've done last year and yes, even this year, as we were still in the hunt this week. We still haven't been mathematically eliminated yet; so I refuse to boo. If we are out of it completely Sunday, I might not be cheering, but I'm not going to boo them. Sorry.

Front

viagracat
09-21-2006, 10:22 AM
Well, I will be at the last game of the regular season at the Cell, and I'm going to cheer, not boo. I'll boo for a bad play, I'll boo for a bad call, I'll boo a loosing effort. But I will not boo a team that 12 months ago ended a 3-generation drought of having a White Sox championship. Ozzie and company gave me and my family something special last year, and unlike Yankees fans, I'm not a "What have you done for me this year?" type.

If 12 months from now, another year is wasted, then yeah, I might be a bit more bugged. But for 12 months I've had bragging rights that my team was the World Champs. Sunday is Fan Appreciation Day. I'm going to show my appreciation for a team that gave me something special. And that's the thing about it. Nothing says they can't do it again next year; unlike the Cubs for example who are years away from ever being competitive.

Front

Excellent post. I'm going tomorrow night (unless it gets rained out :o: ) and will thank them for the season they had. No, it didn't work out the way I would've liked. But there are about 20 MLB teams that would've loved to stay competitive until late September. There is a team 8.3 miles north of Comiskular that wold love to have the Sox's "problems".

Hopefully this year gave the Sox, both players and management, the boot in the ass to do what it takes to compete every year. If--IF--they got a little soft this year resting on their laurels, they will not have that to fall back on next year. I expect a more aggressive, in-your-face team next year. I'll be less patient with a similar effort to the second half of this year next season, but I'll always be a Sox fan. :smile:

Nellie_Fox
09-21-2006, 10:27 AM
I am not a fan of booing your own team, as I've made clear in past posts. I don't see how it helps. Booing a lack of effort or a bad person, okay, but a lack of results, no.

However, to say that the Twins don't deserve to be where they are is just wrong. Early in the year, Gardenhire identified that the combination they started with wasn't playing the type of baseball he wanted, and he scrapped it. The guys they have now play solid, fundamental baseball: get 'em on, get 'em over, get 'em in, to use a cliche. Their record since mid-June is somewhere around 30 games over .500. I truly believe that dedicated players executing a fundamentally sound system is vastly preferable to a collection of more talented individuals, each doing his own thing.

Last year, the Sox said they wanted to go in that direction and did, but then seemed to reverse course for this year rather than continuing to further refine it. The Sox were either the leader or among the leaders in homeruns all year; where did it get them?

alohafri
09-21-2006, 10:41 AM
I am not a fan of booing your own team, as I've made clear in past posts. I don't see how it helps. Booing a lack of effort or a bad person, okay, but a lack of results, no.

I partially agree with you, Nellie. This year was a good ride. We had some high expectations after the pickup of Thome, had a good first half, but things went rapidly downhill after Mark took the shellacking at Wrigley on a Sunday afternoon. I think there were some performances, especially in the second half of the season that deserved booing, such as most of Buehrle's starts, Vazquez's 6th inning meltdowns (although Ozzie should accept some of those boos as his own), the nearly automatic double plays with men on first or first and second with fewer than two outs, Mackowiak's play in centerfield (again, Ozzie should accept some of those boos because he put him there), and the list goes on.

This was not the 2005 White Sox. They couldn't execute when it came right down to it. 2006 will go down as a very solid first half and a mediocre second half. Team Drudgery rode in 2006.

We cheer the good plays, we should be able to boo the bad ones. But I do agree, we shouldn't boo this team when we go to our last games. The booing needed to be done when the boneheaded stuff happened.

NardiWasHere
09-21-2006, 10:43 AM
I don't appreciate anything at the moment.

I'm pissed off. This was a PATHETIC season. They absolutely suck.

Every year, the goal should be to win the championship.... when that doesn't happen, I'm not satisfied... ESPECIALLY when the expectations are so high.

2006 was the most dissapointing season of my life. I don't give a **** if a player had a great season, or if Josh Fields hit a home run in his first AB. The Sox sucked this year..... plain and simple.... I am expecting a better result in '07.

alohafri
09-21-2006, 10:49 AM
I don't appreciate anything at the moment.

I'm pissed off. This was a PATHETIC season. They absolutely suck.

Every year, the goal should be to win the championship.... when that doesn't happen, I'm not satisfied... ESPECIALLY when the expectations are so high.

.

To say this was a pathetic season is wrong. There are about 20 teams in major league baseball that would love to have 85 wins. They don't absolutely suck. Were the Sox disappointing this year? Yes. Did they have trouble executing? Yes. Did they reach the goal of winning the World Series again? No. Hell, if I thought I sucked after failing to reach every one of my goals, I'd just suck the end of my car's tail pipe. You want to talk suckage, look a few miles north.

CaptainBallz
09-21-2006, 11:17 AM
I can appreciate what they've done last year and yes, even this year, as we were still in the hunt this week. We still haven't been mathematically eliminated yet; so I refuse to boo. If we are out of it completely Sunday, I might not be cheering, but I'm not going to boo them. Sorry.

Front

Point taken. I'm not even considering booing them tonight for anything, but I really don't think a standing "O" of appreciation is warranted either.

Everybody's saying that it was an overall "decent" season, many other teams wish they were in our position, etc., and I'll have to just go ahead and disagree. It's almost as if there were two different teams playing this year and unfortunately, the one we saw for HALF THE YEAR just plain sucked. Not good. At all.

They didn't get outplayed, out strategized, out talented, out anything. They had their heads somewhere else and couldn't get it together as a team. Forgetting how many outs there were, showboating errors, the inability to lay down a frickin' bunt, the refusal to check runners at first, stupid pitches in bad situations, the futile attempts at hitting 6-run homers..the list goes on and on. And all the while, giving off an air that it wasn't really a big deal, throwing out cliche after cliche and promising a stride that they were just plain incapable of hitting.

The team didn't play to it's ability. Losing is fine as long as that one criteria is met. It wasn't. It's just really hard to applaud that effort.

I'll applaud JR, though, for providing the $$ to field one of the best Sox teams of all time here in '06. Go figure.

Frankly Missing
09-21-2006, 12:03 PM
I don't appreciate anything at the moment.

I'm pissed off. This was a PATHETIC season. They absolutely suck.

Every year, the goal should be to win the championship.... when that doesn't happen, I'm not satisfied... ESPECIALLY when the expectations are so high.

2006 was the most dissapointing season of my life. I don't give a **** if a player had a great season, or if Josh Fields hit a home run in his first AB. The Sox sucked this year..... plain and simple.... I am expecting a better result in '07.

If winning the Division or the WS is the basis for what make you happy as a fan, then I respectfully suggest that the White Sox are not the best choice for you.

You are 20 years old, and already the White Sox gave you the greatest gift a team can give their fans.

Myself, I waited 50 years, many fans waited much longer than that, and alot died along the way.

Yes, we are DISAPPOINTED and PISSED OFF. But we will raise the banner again in 2007, cheer, jump to our feet, and enjoy plenty of baseball next year.

I also respectfully suggest, get over yourself. **** happens, it did happen, to us and the fans of 22 other teams.

As far as booing, not me, not to this team. I owe alot them more than that anyway, 2005 is over, but not forgotten!

bryPt
09-21-2006, 12:39 PM
The first 3 home games were worth the entire year. The fans, the celebrations, the tears, the emotion. It was incredible being there.

It may be over, but dangit, it was a great year just for the fact that we actually were given the opportunity to REPEAT. Just to say, REPEAT, is something that has not been said in WAY TOO LONG in this town for baseball fans. WE GOT TO SAY IT.

:gulp:

patbooyah
09-21-2006, 12:52 PM
the most you can ask of a team is that they stay competitive until the last week. the sox have done that.

that being said, they haven't been fun to watch in a while.

jenn2080
09-21-2006, 12:56 PM
I don't appreciate anything at the moment.

I'm pissed off. This was a PATHETIC season. They absolutely suck.

Every year, the goal should be to win the championship.... when that doesn't happen, I'm not satisfied... ESPECIALLY when the expectations are so high.

2006 was the most dissapointing season of my life. I don't give a **** if a player had a great season, or if Josh Fields hit a home run in his first AB. The Sox sucked this year..... plain and simple.... I am expecting a better result in '07.


wow! :rolleyes: This is a bit extreme.

whitesoxfan1986
09-21-2006, 03:26 PM
If winning the Division or the WS is the basis for what make you happy as a fan, then I respectfully suggest that the White Sox are not the best choice for you.

You are 20 years old, and already the White Sox gave you the greatest gift a team can give their fans.

Myself, I waited 50 years, many fans waited much longer than that, and alot died along the way.

Yes, we are DISAPPOINTED and PISSED OFF. But we will raise the banner again in 2007, cheer, jump to our feet, and enjoy plenty of baseball next year.

I also respectfully suggest, get over yourself. **** happens, it did happen, to us and the fans of 22 other teams.

As far as booing, not me, not to this team. I owe alot them more than that anyway, 2005 is over, but not forgotten!

Are you suggesting that the Sox aren't going to win the WS for another 88 years?

Nellie_Fox
09-21-2006, 03:37 PM
Are you suggesting that the Sox aren't going to win the WS for another 88 years?AS we have learned, that is always a possibility.

Frontman
09-21-2006, 04:19 PM
Point taken. I'm not even considering booing them tonight for anything, but I really don't think a standing "O" of appreciation is warranted either.

Everybody's saying that it was an overall "decent" season, many other teams wish they were in our position, etc., and I'll have to just go ahead and disagree. It's almost as if there were two different teams playing this year and unfortunately, the one we saw for HALF THE YEAR just plain sucked. Not good. At all.

They didn't get outplayed, out strategized, out talented, out anything. They had their heads somewhere else and couldn't get it together as a team. Forgetting how many outs there were, showboating errors, the inability to lay down a frickin' bunt, the refusal to check runners at first, stupid pitches in bad situations, the futile attempts at hitting 6-run homers..the list goes on and on. And all the while, giving off an air that it wasn't really a big deal, throwing out cliche after cliche and promising a stride that they were just plain incapable of hitting.

The team didn't play to it's ability. Losing is fine as long as that one criteria is met. It wasn't. It's just really hard to applaud that effort.

I'll applaud JR, though, for providing the $$ to field one of the best Sox teams of all time here in '06. Go figure.

I agree totally. The back half of the season was brutal. Hell, the beatdown we took just prior to the AS break from the BoSox hurt! But to me, the folks who plan on booing Today/Tomorrow/Sat/Sunday probably won't be around next year or in the years following. To me, how is that being a fan? A fan can show disappointment, sure. I learned my first curse words from my grandfather when we went to a game in '80. In that game, i watched a base runner run to 3rd, the runner in front of him held at 3rd. They shook hands, then the original runner started back to 2nd and got tagged out, and the runner on 3rd then tried for home, only to get stuck in a round down. Now THAT deserved boos. THAT was moronic baseball. But to just throw boos and curses at them now won't change anything.

If for example they win Sunday 5-1, its moronic to boo. Even if they are out of it, don't boo if they win. Like alohafri said, boo when they play bad. Boo when they overthrow 1st, or get flat footed in the outfield. But to boo for an entire season (which no matter how it wound up, was a winning season) the last time they take the field in front of their fans isn't going to do anything. It's like Yankee fans booing A-Rod for a homer because it won't help in an 8-1 loss. What the hell? Boo if he strikes out. Boo if he misses a fly. But booing over a homer? Come on. Sox fans aren't Yankees fans. We might want their bragging rights (who wouldn't want a team with that amount of HoF, championships, and an owner who will pay any dollar amount for a winner?) but we don't need to develop their bad habits.

The Sox will be back. And I fully believe that Ozzie will lead us again to a WS championship.

Front

TDog
09-21-2006, 04:28 PM
If this were the Southside Hitmen of 1977 (90 wins, 3rd place, 13 games out while setting a team record for home runs), this team would be revered. Instead people are talking about booing a team that stayed in contention longer, set a team record for grand slams and turned two triple plays.

For me there are two sports seasons -- the baseball season and the dark offseason. This season was disappointing, but it won't end with a bitter crash like 2000 (that walk-off bunt haunted me for years) or 1983, or even 1993. If only the Sox hadn't been punked by Oakland in 1972. If only the Sox had scored before Tito Landrum came up to bat. If only ...

A year ago, people were figuring that if the Sox coasted into the postseason they would be three and out and wouldn't be a match for the Indians in 2006. If winning the World Series were easy, everyone would do it. That's why last October was so special.

If only Grady Sizemore had caught that fly ball, they say in Cleveland.

If only Grafinino had fielded the double-play ball and the Red Sox could have scored a game later with the bases loaded and none out, they say in Boston.

If only Josh Paul had tagged out Pierzinski when he had the chance, they say in California.

In Houston they have four games of "if onlys."

I am so grateful for 2005 when evey else has if onlys that 2006 doesn't bother me.

Hitmen77
09-21-2006, 05:06 PM
If this were the Southside Hitmen of 1977 (90 wins, 3rd place, 13 games out while setting a team record for home runs), this team would be revered. Instead people are talking about booing a team that stayed in contention longer, set a team record for grand slams and turned two triple plays.

For me there are two sports seasons -- the baseball season and the dark offseason. This season was disappointing, but it won't end with a bitter crash like 2000 (that walk-off bunt haunted me for years) or 1983, or even 1993. If only the Sox hadn't been punked by Oakland in 1972. If only the Sox had scored before Tito Landrum came up to bat. If only ...

A year ago, people were figuring that if the Sox coasted into the postseason they would be three and out and wouldn't be a match for the Indians in 2006. If winning the World Series were easy, everyone would do it. That's why last October was so special.

If only Grady Sizemore had caught that fly ball, they say in Cleveland.

If only Grafinino had fielded the double-play ball and the Red Sox could have scored a game later with the bases loaded and none out, they say in Boston.

If only Josh Paul had tagged out Pierzinski when he had the chance, they say in California.

In Houston they have four games of "if onlys."

I am so grateful for 2005 when evey else has if onlys that 2006 doesn't bother me.

You bring up good points.

I think the difference between this year and '77 was that the '77 team came out of nowhere and surprised everyone with a great 90 win season. This year, this team had so much talent, that we expected more of them. We're in a better position now because 1977 was just a one shot deal. After that, free agency split the team up and we fell to 90 losses. At this time, the team's core talent is locked in place and we should expect another contending team next year.

The Sox have been pretty decent at racking up 90 win seasons over the years. I'm hopeful that we are at this point merely in the midst of a long run of such seasons because that'll give us a shot at getting back to the Fall Classic sometime soon.

Sox-o-matic
09-21-2006, 06:23 PM
To say this was a pathetic season is wrong. There are about 20 teams in major league baseball that would love to have 85 wins.

I'm not as extreme as Ozzie/KW in that you're a loser unless you win the whole thing, but I do think that a team's win total on the season means jack when that team doesn't at least make the playoffs.

If I knew at the beginning of the season that the Sox were not going to make the playoffs, I'd rather have seen a 70 win team than an 85 win team. At least that puts us in better draft position.

On the positive side though, I think things are really going to get interesting over the offseason. Hopefully KW and Ozzie change the direction of this team back to what it was in '05.

Sox-o-matic
09-21-2006, 06:27 PM
One more thing to add:

What REALLY gets to me about this season more than anything else is that the Tigers and the Twins aren't going to be able to stop the A's or Yankees in the playoffs. The Sox, even though they've been up and down (mostly down as far as fundamentals and the bullpen are concerned) they STILL have a better playoff team than anyone else.

To me, this seems like such a waste. I highly doubt either one of the Twins or Tigers will make it out of the ALDS when the Sox could have gone all the way.

Frontman
09-21-2006, 07:27 PM
One more thing to add:

What REALLY gets to me about this season more than anything else is that the Tigers and the Twins aren't going to be able to stop the A's or Yankees in the playoffs. The Sox, even though they've been up and down (mostly down as far as fundamentals and the bullpen are concerned) they STILL have a better playoff team than anyone else.

To me, this seems like such a waste. I highly doubt either one of the Twins or Tigers will make it out of the ALDS when the Sox could have gone all the way.


Well, that is supposition, as the Yankees worked us over pretty good this year, as well as getting swept by the A's this past weekend, its hard to say we'd have either teams number. Granted, in a short series, you can reset your rotation order and get your best guy to the mound twice if needed, but honestly, I'd rather not make the playoffs with the way the team is playing now, versus getting in and getting swept and done.

As far as draft order, baseball history is filled with guys drafted high and turn out to be no damn good. Look north, 8.3 miles like someone said, and need I say more?

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Sox-o-matic
09-22-2006, 09:24 PM
As far as draft order, baseball history is filled with guys drafted high and turn out to be no damn good. Look north, 8.3 miles like someone said, and need I say more?

:smile:

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True, bad that is just what happens. Teams pick the wrong guys for whatever reasons, but the point is the higher you draft the better chance you can get the guy you want, regardless of whether that player does anything in his career or not.

I do agree though that I'd rather miss the playoffs than get swept in the first round. But I still think, even with the problems with our rotation and bullpen, we would have been the most dangerous team in baseball had we made the playoffs.

Frontman
09-23-2006, 07:21 PM
Anyone still planning on booing tomorrow? Anyone, anyone? Bueller, Bueller?

Let's GO WHITE SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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