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sachin
09-13-2006, 10:12 PM
To begin, I would like to extend thanks to whitesoxinteractive.com for providing a resource for fans of Chicago White Sox. Me and my brother are not from United States and, as such, do not have prior knowledge of baseball and Chicago White Sox. whitesoxinteractive.com has helped me and my brother understand this exciting sport more better!
Unfortunately, my brother and I are poor students at university and cannot afford to view all games on T.V., and apreciate the way Hawk says the game becuase he makes it sound interesting and fun! When listening to game on radio, my brother and I are very frustated with announcer Ed Farmer, he does not tell the action of the game in a very interesting way!:angry:
My brother and I have heard Ed Farmer talk about:
California
Golf
Kidney
Blood

My brother and I do not hear about position of players, or what game strategy, or anything helpful. When a big play ocurrs, Ed Farmer does not sound like he wants to be announcing the game and would rather be playing golf in California while giving blood for his kidney!

My friend says Ed Farmer is there for a long time; my brother and I say SACK ED FARMER!!!

gaelhound
09-13-2006, 10:18 PM
What was that Patrick Swayze movie again?

soxwon
09-13-2006, 10:19 PM
To begin, I would like to extend thanks to whitesoxinteractive.com for providing a resource for fans of Chicago White Sox. Me and my brother are not from United States and, as such, do not have prior knowledge of baseball and Chicago White Sox. whitesoxinteractive.com has helped me and my brother understand this exciting sport more better!
Unfortunately, my brother and I are poor students at university and cannot afford to view all games on T.V., and apreciate the way Hawk says the game becuase he makes it sound interesting and fun! When listening to game on radio, my brother and I are very frustated with announcer Ed Farmer, he does not tell the action of the game in a very interesting way!:angry:
My brother and I have heard Ed Farmer talk about:
California
Golf
Kidney
Blood

My brother and I do not hear about position of players, or what game strategy, or anything helpful. When a big play ocurrs, Ed Farmer does not sound like he wants to be announcing the game and would rather be playing golf in California while giving blood for his kidney!

My friend says Ed Farmer is there for a long time; my brother and I say SACK ED FARMER!!!

Farmio is an aquired taste, he was much better the last few years as a colorman
for John Rooney (now with st louis)
He can appear rude, and conceited, but i find him capable of decent play by play.
welcome to chicago and WSI, if you have any questions feel free to post them

tebman
09-13-2006, 10:24 PM
To begin, I would like to extend thanks to whitesoxinteractive.com for providing a resource for fans of Chicago White Sox. Me and my brother are not from United States and, as such, do not have prior knowledge of baseball and Chicago White Sox. whitesoxinteractive.com has helped me and my brother understand this exciting sport more better!
Unfortunately, my brother and I are poor students at university and cannot afford to view all games on T.V., and apreciate the way Hawk says the game becuase he makes it sound interesting and fun! When listening to game on radio, my brother and I are very frustated with announcer Ed Farmer, he does not tell the action of the game in a very interesting way!:angry:
My brother and I have heard Ed Farmer talk about:
California
Golf
Kidney
Blood

My brother and I do not hear about position of players, or what game strategy, or anything helpful. When a big play ocurrs, Ed Farmer does not sound like he wants to be announcing the game and would rather be playing golf in California while giving blood for his kidney!

My friend says Ed Farmer is there for a long time; my brother and I say SACK ED FARMER!!!
Sachin, thanks for your faith and your persistence. We are all certain that the White Sox will enjoy more support from outside the United States as their success continues.

As to Ed Farmer, yes, he has been there for a long time, but until this year he was not the main play-by-play announcer. John Rooney had done White Sox play-by-play for 18 years, but after last season he took another job in St. Louis to announce the Cardinals' games. Rooney was originally from St. Louis and wanted to return to his hometown.

Most of us here on WSI agree that Ed Farmer is not the best play-by-play announcer available. He was good as a commentator when he worked with Rooney, but he doesn't do as well calling the plays. Unfortunately, the team and the radio station have decided to stick with him. We can only hope that his presentation skills improve with experience.

In the meantime, keep reading WSI. That's what I do, and I get better information that way. :D:

goon
09-13-2006, 10:30 PM
Farmio is an aquired taste, he was much better the last few years as a colorman
for John Rooney (now with st louis)
He can appear rude, and conceited, but i find him capable of decent play by play.
welcome to chicago and WSI, if you have any questions feel free to post them

word. i like farmer.

HotelWhiteSox
09-13-2006, 10:32 PM
My brother and I have heard Ed Farmer talk about:
California
Golf
Kidney
Blood


Sorry but this part was hilarious, to a tee, I do like Farmer though. I know you said you are poor, but if you get the online Gameday Audio ($10 comes with White Sox pride club) you can hear the other team's broadcaster.

Realist
09-13-2006, 10:33 PM
Farmer belongs in a rubber room. I love him.

SoxShirt
09-13-2006, 10:38 PM
:o: I like Farmer! I think he is awesome! I like all four announcers, but I'd have to say, I like Ed Farmer the best.

alohafri
09-13-2006, 10:39 PM
Farmer belongs in a rubber room. I love him.

Ditto. His humor is as dry as a martini.

Trav
09-13-2006, 10:40 PM
I like Farmer as a color guy as well but he isn't bad as a PBP. I find him refreshing compared to guys like Todd Hamilton (Indians) who get excited about every other play. I also like the way Farmer makes fun of the obvious.

The only thing I have against him is his knack for being able to talk for three innings about a mentor or whatever and fail to mention the game. But he did that as a color guy as well so that isn't different this year.

Unregistered
09-13-2006, 10:41 PM
Farmio is an aquired taste, he was much better the last few years as a colorman
for John Rooney (now with st louis)
He can appear rude, and conceited, but i find him capable of decent play by play.
welcome to chicago and WSI, if you have any questions feel free to post them
You know it's a rare thread when soxwon becomes the voice of reason... :cool:

palehosepub
09-13-2006, 10:46 PM
You left out his appearance in the 1980 All Star game - Farmio finds a not so subtle way to bring that up on each broadcast... SOMEBODY had to be selcted from that awful White Sox team....

Chips
09-13-2006, 10:48 PM
My brother and I have heard Ed Farmer talk about:
California
Golf
Kidney
Blood



You forgot Charlie Weis, Notre Dame, St. Rita, and St. Tommy More. :o:

Ed Farmer is a busted leg.

soxwon
09-13-2006, 10:53 PM
You know it's a rare thread when soxwon becomes the voice of reason... :cool:

thanks- i guess your right there.
probably will be another 3 years till the next

BiggestFan14
09-13-2006, 11:26 PM
I like all four of the announcers, I never understand why anyone has anything bad to say about them.

thomas35forever
09-14-2006, 12:07 AM
He's not as good as Rooney, but he still called a lot of action in those days. I like him. Don't you hate him.

riggs
09-14-2006, 12:40 AM
Farmer is an aquired taste but I prefer listening to him over Harrelson any day. There's just something about Hawk that rubs me the wrong way.

LuvSox
09-14-2006, 12:47 AM
Farmer is highly entertaining. Sure, he may not be for new baseball fans. But Hawk could be the worst teacher of the game.

:hawk
"Get on back there" :redneck

BA: The Hitman
09-14-2006, 12:51 AM
Farmer is extremely knowledgable about the game, but he was just not meant to be a play by play guy. He was great as rooney's sidekick, but this year it has been painful to listen to the radio broadcasts. Does anyone know how long him and Singleton are signed for on their contracts?

PaulDrake
09-14-2006, 09:50 AM
Farmer is extremely knowledgable about the game, but he was just not meant to be a play by play guy. He was great as rooney's sidekick, but this year it has been painful to listen to the radio broadcasts. Ditto.

D. TODD
09-14-2006, 09:51 AM
Boo bad radio announcer Ed Farmer... Hooray Beer!

MsSoxVixen22
09-14-2006, 09:58 AM
I'm with alot of you-I love Farmio. He has me LMAO on many occassions. He's not THAT bad. Anybody listen to the post game with Ranger last nite? LOL! Ranger's like tell Singleton I love him and I'll talk to him soon. So Farmio tells Singleton, Ranger says he loves you and will talk to you soon. Farmio says Chris said love you too weasel. My Dad and I just looked at eachother and cracked up!

0o0o0
09-14-2006, 09:58 AM
:rolleyes: Another one of these threads.

Fact: Farmer is awesome! :bandance:

35th&Shields
09-14-2006, 10:03 AM
He can appear rude, and conceited, but i find him capable of decent play by play.
welcome to chicago and WSI, if you have any questions feel free to post them

I like Farmer, but he should keep his politics to himself. I would also appreciate a reduction in the Notre Dame references, but a Domer is a Domer.

viagracat
09-14-2006, 10:05 AM
Sachin, thanks for your faith and your persistence. We are all certain that the White Sox will enjoy more support from outside the United States as their success continues.

As to Ed Farmer, yes, he has been there for a long time, but until this year he was not the main play-by-play announcer. John Rooney had done White Sox play-by-play for 18 years, but after last season he took another job in St. Louis to announce the Cardinals' games. Rooney was originally from St. Louis and wanted to return to his hometown.

Most of us here on WSI agree that Ed Farmer is not the best play-by-play announcer available. He was good as a commentator when he worked with Rooney, but he doesn't do as well calling the plays. Unfortunately, the team and the radio station have decided to stick with him. We can only hope that his presentation skills improve with experience.

In the meantime, keep reading WSI. That's what I do, and I get better information that way. :D:

Hang a star on that post! :D:

IspepAloc
09-14-2006, 10:10 AM
I think that the disappointment with White Sox radio isn't just Farmer, it's the whole booth. Now, I'm not going to Chris Singleton hate, but I think that the chemistry between them isn't there yet. Singleton is in his first year. He's done a pretty good job for a rookie color guy, but he's just not where he needs to be yet. I'm sure that will come with more games under his belt.

Farmer is no Rooney and Farmer will probably never be as good as Rooney is, but he does have his moments. Yah you can learn about his favorite movies, how many rounds of golf he's played on an off-day, his handicap, etc., but would you rather have Hawk & DJ in radio booth as well?

Baby Fisk
09-14-2006, 10:11 AM
:farmer
"Did I tell you the story about the time I was in California playing golf and a guy in our group took a ball to the kidneys? I've never seen someone cough up so much blood."

Shift
09-14-2006, 10:25 AM
He'll also occasionally touch on Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Charlie Weis, Notre Dame, Lou Holtz and, um, Notre Dame.

miker
09-14-2006, 10:29 AM
I guess I have gotten used to Farmio, but for his non-play-by-play material he needs to find more or recycle less.

And Singleton is getting better.

Having heard other radio broadcasters, the Sox could have done worse!

spiffie
09-14-2006, 10:31 AM
I am given to understand that Ed Farmer has enjoyed a round or two of golf in his lifetime. I think its something he should think about mentioning on-air. Also, he is too exciteable for my tastes.

Shift
09-14-2006, 10:43 AM
Apologies if this has been mentioned, I'm sure it has come up before in other threads, but the constant suggestion of the possibility of a home run makes me crazy. "He goes deep here and Sox will cut the lead to 5."

mrwag
09-14-2006, 10:51 AM
Farmer rubs me the wrong way. His arrogance is annoying, and seems borderline mean to Singleton at times. Seems like he cuts Chris off a lot and interrupts him. It just doesn't work well.

The Wall
09-14-2006, 10:58 AM
sachin, Farmer-Singleton duo is definitely not for beginner listeners. Rooney-Farmer combination was excellent in that way (and any other way).

You will need to learn the game from Hawk and DJ before you can really enjoy Farmio.

Welcome to WSI and to Chicago.

Norberto7
09-14-2006, 11:26 AM
:farmer
"Did I tell you the story about the time I was in California playing golf and a guy in our group took a ball to the kidneys? I've never seen someone cough up so much blood."

:rolling:

The reason this is funny is you can imagine Farmer's tone exactly as he would be saying these words. I would add he would probably throw a "Yeah" on the end of that sentence, as he is prone to do when he says something he believes the listener may doubt.

johnr1note
09-14-2006, 11:53 AM
I think that the disappointment with White Sox radio isn't just Farmer, it's the whole booth. Now, I'm not going to Chris Singleton hate, but I think that the chemistry between them isn't there yet. Singleton is in his first year. He's done a pretty good job for a rookie color guy, but he's just not where he needs to be yet. I'm sure that will come with more games under his belt.

Farmer is no Rooney and Farmer will probably never be as good as Rooney is, but he does have his moments. Yah you can learn about his favorite movies, how many rounds of golf he's played on an off-day, his handicap, etc., but would you rather have Hawk & DJ in radio booth as well?

Let me take it a step further -- its not just the booth, its WSCR. Allowing Whtie Sox baseball to be broadcast on the one station in Chicago that is the equivalent of college "frat-boy" radio is appalling. Its bad enought having to listen to Farmer's montone drone, uninteresting stories, stupid observations ("Hey, a bloop and a blast, and we're only 3 runs down!"), and inability to describe the game as it unfolds (don't get me started about the concept of tuning in mid-game and having to wait until the end of the inning before anyone bothers to metnion what the score is) and Chris Singleton gasping for breath as the action unfolds ("its a ground ball (pause -- you can hear crowd cheering) base hit (another pause while crowd cheers) and a run scores (meanwhile, if you're an XM subscriber, you already know this because the score on the display has changed faster than he can describe it). No, its the whole WCSR atmosphere -- the idiot-who-has-the-gift-of-speech Mike North, screaming almost indiscernably about "my guys!!" in ever ad, the commercials for male sexual aides and gentlemen's clubs, and neanderthal personalities. Is this "National Lampoon Radio Hour's" parody of a sports station or a baseball broadcast?

Thankfully, I have XM, and can listen to somebody else when the Sox are on the road. I gave up on Hawk and DJ long ago.

MILTMAY5
09-14-2006, 12:54 PM
I like all four of the announcers, I never understand why anyone has anything bad to say about them.I agree. For anyone who doesn't have to watch the Sox on MLB extra innings and be subjected to the other teams announcers, be grateful.

Chicken Dinner
09-14-2006, 12:59 PM
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bludupree
09-14-2006, 01:37 PM
Let me take it a step further -- its not just the booth, its WSCR. Allowing Whtie Sox baseball to be broadcast on the one station in Chicago that is the equivalent of college "frat-boy" radio is appalling............ No, its the whole WCSR atmosphere -- the idiot-who-has-the-gift-of-speech Mike North, screaming almost indiscernably about "my guys!!" in ever ad, the commercials for male sexual aides and gentlemen's clubs, and neanderthal personalities. Is this "National Lampoon Radio Hour's" parody of a sports station or a baseball broadcast?



Perhaps you should tune in around 3 PM to hear Boers and Bernstein. Their noses are always up in the air and they are waaay above all of this. To them everyone is an idiot, not just Mike North. They are also above the chicago accent/sayings that Mike North uses.

I do think Mike North as an idiot, but he knows how to entertain and is a damn interesting interviewer.

bludupree
09-14-2006, 01:42 PM
I agree. For anyone who doesn't have to watch the Sox on MLB extra innings and be subjected to the other teams announcers, be grateful.


It is Singleton's first year and he is obviously learning. Him and Farmer have developed some chemistry and they get better every day. Singleton caught on a lot quicker than DJ and I hope he is here for a while.

Hawk has a ton of character and a ton of baseball knowledge. Anyone who is going to claim that they know more than Hawk better have a pretty long baseball resume to match his experience. Yes, he is opinionated and I don't agree with everything he says, but that just adds to his character.

No, neither are your typical ESPN, pre-fabricated broadcast, and I am grateful for that. Is that what people around here really want? Some guy who says everything by the book?

goon
09-14-2006, 02:03 PM
Perhaps you should tune in around 3 PM to hear Boers and Bernstein. Their noses are always up in the air and they are waaay above all of this. To them everyone is an idiot, not just Mike North. They are also above the chicago accent/sayings that Mike North uses.

I do think Mike North as an idiot, but he knows how to entertain and is a damn interesting interviewer.


absolutely. i cannot think of a more negative, pompous duo on the radio. everytime i used to listen to that show, i found myself asking outloud, "is there anything these douchebags like?" that moron, bernstein, was preaching that the white sox were done... in May. i guess controversy sells and to get high ratings you have to say some ridiculous things. awful, awful show.

southside rocks
09-14-2006, 02:05 PM
Apologies if this has been mentioned, I'm sure it has come up before in other threads, but the constant suggestion of the possibility of a home run makes me crazy. "He goes deep here and Sox will cut the lead to 5."

It's the constant reminders of what -- even against astronomical odds -- the other team could do that makes me nuts.

The Sox could be leading 15-1 and Farmer would tell us, in his Eeyore tone of imminent doom, that 'if the Indians get a couple of baserunners here, get the line moving, get two or three slams, they're right back in it.' Even if it's 15-1 Sox going into the NINTH, for pete's sake!

I love that Farmio's a fan, and I appreciate that the organization wants a "White Sox culture" and to that end hires former players to broadcast, but I really wish Ed would get better at leaving his emotions out of the game.

At the risk of being labeled 'flubsessed', I will say that the northside team has broadcasters (and I don't include Santo in this, I don't think he's a broadcaster, since he just groans offstage) who this year have had the horrible, unwelcome job of covering the suckiest team in baseball, and THEY have done and still do a nice job of calling a baseball game on the air. Maybe they could give Ed some pointers.

thomas35
09-14-2006, 02:10 PM
To begin, I would like to extend thanks to whitesoxinteractive.com for providing a resource for fans of Chicago White Sox. Me and my brother are not from United States and, as such, do not have prior knowledge of baseball and Chicago White Sox. whitesoxinteractive.com has helped me and my brother understand this exciting sport more better!
Unfortunately, my brother and I are poor students at university and cannot afford to view all games on T.V., and apreciate the way Hawk says the game becuase he makes it sound interesting and fun! When listening to game on radio, my brother and I are very frustated with announcer Ed Farmer, he does not tell the action of the game in a very interesting way!:angry:
My brother and I have heard Ed Farmer talk about:
California
Golf
Kidney
Blood

My brother and I do not hear about position of players, or what game strategy, or anything helpful. When a big play ocurrs, Ed Farmer does not sound like he wants to be announcing the game and would rather be playing golf in California while giving blood for his kidney!

My friend says Ed Farmer is there for a long time; my brother and I say SACK ED FARMER!!!


He's alright...

PhillipsBubba
09-14-2006, 02:21 PM
I don't listen to much baseball on the radio, but I agree Farmer can be annoying. I'll give the Devil His Due however, he knows his baseball. His comments on how to pitch certain batters are enlightening.

Unfortunately, he's been saddled with a broadcasting stiff. I think an experienced broadcasting sidekick would be able to draw more of Farmer's expertise out of him rather than letting their presentation sink to the depths of inane chit chat.

In the grand scheme of things, it's no big deal...as long as the pitching staff continues their resurgence:D:

SouthSide_HitMen
09-14-2006, 02:46 PM
Farmer is extremely knowledgable about the game, but he was just not meant to be a play by play guy. He was great as rooney's sidekick, but this year it has been painful to listen to the radio broadcasts. Does anyone know how long him and Singleton are signed for on their contracts?

Four more years! :o:

Farmer doesn't bother me but he is better as an analyst. Singleton was God awful at first but has improved. He still has a long, long way to go (and may never get there). I like Farmer and he is the best of the four announcers, IMO (in other words the tallest midget). DJ is the best on TV but then again a deaf mute trumps Hawk.

I started the season not muting the TV (actually listening to Hawk and DJ - something I have never done before while I had control of the volume) but I am back to the same mute TV, listen to the radio mode I have been in since they moved across the street.

SoxShirt
09-14-2006, 02:50 PM
:o:Boers and Bernstein are the best! In fact, I'm sad that I have to work at 2:00 and I'm going to miss most of their show. :(:

soxinem1
09-14-2006, 03:04 PM
Get Dave Wills out of his TB contract and give him the PBP job!!

bludupree
09-14-2006, 03:21 PM
:o:Boers and Bernstein are the best! In fact, I'm sad that I have to work at 2:00 and I'm going to miss most of their show. :(:

The best at what? Those guys are arrogant, condescending towards and negative about the Sox, and the entire south side, and are usually wrong. THey also cut off callers who have good arguments so they can rip on them without being contested. I have a great example from about a month ago. This was the topic:

1st and 3rd, 1 out. Ball hit to 3rd baseman. What should guy on third do?

People with baseball knowledge ranging from casual fan to college-level coaches were calling and arguing that you send the guy on 3rd. The 2 pricks insisted "The ball is hit to the 3rd baseman. That is idiotic baseball. You are a moron."

This continued for about 30 minutes while 1 university coach explained: "If you go home you have 1st and second with 2 outs. If you stay on third you have 1st and 3rd with 2 outs or possibly a double play."

They continued calliing everyone "stupid", "idiots", and being "baseball morons" because "The ball is hit to 3rd base". They said they weren't taking any more calls on this topic until finally they asked Joey Cora. He said "Every team in major league baseball will send the guy home". He also added that a rundown could result in 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs.

No apology from them, just "That's news to me" and "Well, I guess if Joey Cora says so then it must be right(with sarcasm)" and "Well...I guess it makes sense if the ultimate goal is a run down"

Sorry for the rant, but I hate these 2 and this is a strong argument to support my opinions which are pretty much fact. These two are horrible.

BainesHOF
09-14-2006, 04:06 PM
Those two clowns are sad. They're buried so deep in their negativity that they can't recognize positive things for what they are.

hawkjt
09-14-2006, 04:26 PM
I usually catch these guys from 2-3 cuz I am not a Dan Patrick fan and want the local slant. Well, unfailingly when the sox win they spend a half hour on anything but the sox. When they lose they go into the total negative on the sox mode.

When they lost on Sunday, their show was all about how the sox suck. When they won on Monday with a great pitching performance by Jose- they could only talk bears. Today all they wanted to talk about was the ettiquette in the booth when a no-hitter going on- no mention of the great performance of Freddie.

They have been writing off the sox since early August, day after day, then today they suddenly say that it has a chance to get interesting cuz of the Liriano injury. Last year it was the same crap and when a caller challenged them on it recently , they shouted him down saying they never said the sox would not win it all. Righttttt.

They just struggle when they cannot go negative.

kobo
09-14-2006, 04:35 PM
Let me take it a step further -- its not just the booth, its WSCR. Allowing Whtie Sox baseball to be broadcast on the one station in Chicago that is the equivalent of college "frat-boy" radio is appalling. Its bad enought having to listen to Farmer's montone drone, uninteresting stories, stupid observations ("Hey, a bloop and a blast, and we're only 3 runs down!"), and inability to describe the game as it unfolds (don't get me started about the concept of tuning in mid-game and having to wait until the end of the inning before anyone bothers to metnion what the score is) and Chris Singleton gasping for breath as the action unfolds ("its a ground ball (pause -- you can hear crowd cheering) base hit (another pause while crowd cheers) and a run scores (meanwhile, if you're an XM subscriber, you already know this because the score on the display has changed faster than he can describe it). No, its the whole WCSR atmosphere -- the idiot-who-has-the-gift-of-speech Mike North, screaming almost indiscernably about "my guys!!" in ever ad, the commercials for male sexual aides and gentlemen's clubs, and neanderthal personalities. Is this "National Lampoon Radio Hour's" parody of a sports station or a baseball broadcast?

Thankfully, I have XM, and can listen to somebody else when the Sox are on the road. I gave up on Hawk and DJ long ago.
I don't understand what any of the on-air personalities have to do with the broadcast of the actual game or the pre and post game shows. If you don't like their regular programming then don't listen.

As for the commercials, why do you think those are aired? Because those companies are paying to have their spots run during Sox games. They know that a lot of people are listening and so they pay the money to have the ads run during the game.

kobo
09-14-2006, 04:41 PM
I usually catch these guys from 2-3 cuz I am not a Dan Patrick fan and want the local slant. Well, unfailingly when the sox win they spend a half hour on anything but the sox. When they lose they go into the total negative on the sox mode.

When they lost on Sunday, their show was all about how the sox suck. When they won on Monday with a great pitching performance by Jose- they could only talk bears. Today all they wanted to talk about was the ettiquette in the booth when a no-hitter going on- no mention of the great performance of Freddie.

They have been writing off the sox since early August, day after day, then today they suddenly say that it has a chance to get interesting cuz of the Liriano injury. Last year it was the same crap and when a caller challenged them on it recently , they shouted him down saying they never said the sox would not win it all. Righttttt.

They just struggle when they cannot go negative.
That's because it makes for better or more interesting radio when there is negativity being spewn around. It's just like post game threads on the site, whenever there's a loss the thread is huge, when there's a win, it's noticeably smaller.

0o0o0
09-14-2006, 04:53 PM
The best at what? Those guys are arrogant, condescending towards and negative about the Sox, and the entire south side, and are usually wrong. THey also cut off callers who have good arguments so they can rip on them without being contested. I have a great example from about a month ago. This was the topic:

1st and 3rd, 1 out. Ball hit to 3rd baseman. What should guy on third do?

People with baseball knowledge ranging from casual fan to college-level coaches were calling and arguing that you send the guy on 3rd. The 2 pricks insisted "The ball is hit to the 3rd baseman. That is idiotic baseball. You are a moron."

This continued for about 30 minutes while 1 university coach explained: "If you go home you have 1st and second with 2 outs. If you stay on third you have 1st and 3rd with 2 outs or possibly a double play."

They continued calliing everyone "stupid", "idiots", and being "baseball morons" because "The ball is hit to 3rd base". They said they weren't taking any more calls on this topic until finally they asked Joey Cora. He said "Every team in major league baseball will send the guy home". He also added that a rundown could result in 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs.

No apology from them, just "That's news to me" and "Well, I guess if Joey Cora says so then it must be right(with sarcasm)" and "Well...I guess it makes sense if the ultimate goal is a run down"

Sorry for the rant, but I hate these 2 and this is a strong argument to support my opinions which are pretty much fact. These two are horrible.

You might wanna check out Mike Murphy then, as he agrees with every single caller. A real entertaining listen. :rolleyes:

B&B are condescending towards everything. Don't turn this into some annoying "anti-Sox" thing. They're cocky, rude, and hilarious, and that's why I love listening to them.

qtpi2006
09-26-2006, 02:24 PM
i agree! His voice drives me so crazy that I can't even pay attention to what he is saying! He sounds like he's about to gag! And geez, have SOME objectivity - the SOX aren't flawless.

PatK
09-26-2006, 02:29 PM
You left out his appearance in the 1980 All Star game - Farmio finds a not so subtle way to bring that up on each broadcast... SOMEBODY had to be selcted from that awful White Sox team....

What gets brought up more often, him doing that, or Singleton bringing up how he hit for the cycle?

southside rocks
09-26-2006, 03:12 PM
Yeah, and that meatball he served up for a grand slam last night --

Oh wait, that was Boone Logan.

Sorry, can't get too worked up about Ed Farmer when the team itself needs some renovations. Don't like him, don't listen. :tongue:

XOS
09-26-2006, 05:15 PM
Farmer Rocks!!!

:gulp:

Frontman
09-26-2006, 05:36 PM
Let me take it a step further -- its not just the booth, its WSCR. Allowing Whtie Sox baseball to be broadcast on the one station in Chicago that is the equivalent of college "frat-boy" radio is appalling. Its bad enought having to listen to Farmer's montone drone, uninteresting stories, stupid observations ("Hey, a bloop and a blast, and we're only 3 runs down!"), and inability to describe the game as it unfolds (don't get me started about the concept of tuning in mid-game and having to wait until the end of the inning before anyone bothers to metnion what the score is) and Chris Singleton gasping for breath as the action unfolds ("its a ground ball (pause -- you can hear crowd cheering) base hit (another pause while crowd cheers) and a run scores (meanwhile, if you're an XM subscriber, you already know this because the score on the display has changed faster than he can describe it). No, its the whole WCSR atmosphere -- the idiot-who-has-the-gift-of-speech Mike North, screaming almost indiscernably about "my guys!!" in ever ad, the commercials for male sexual aides and gentlemen's clubs, and neanderthal personalities. Is this "National Lampoon Radio Hour's" parody of a sports station or a baseball broadcast?

Thankfully, I have XM, and can listen to somebody else when the Sox are on the road. I gave up on Hawk and DJ long ago.


You know, I read this alot, but ESPN is no better. Mac, Jerko, and Harry is about as Animal House as it gets. And Dan Patrick (while he's is WAY better to listen to than Mike Murphy) has made a career of listing things he'll talk about, talk about them for about 5 minutes, long pauses of silence, then list other things he'll talk about later and who else will be on the show. And their commercials are just as bad as the Score's. They run gentlemen's clubs ads, they also do the male enhancement commericals. Matter of fact, I see far more of levitra ads during an hour of television on ESPN than I hear in a 4 hour show on the Score.

The Score isn't the best, but I'd rather have the broadcast money for the White Sox stay in Chicago, versus help fund the Disney megacorp.

Front

Frontman
09-26-2006, 05:40 PM
As far as Farmio is concerned, yeah; he isn't the best PBP guy out there. But I'd rather listen to him versus national broadcasters. You know its bad when the Sox were on ESPN or Fox I was begging for them to bring the Hawk on the air.

Front

October26
09-26-2006, 08:51 PM
Keep Farmio. He makes me laugh.

Send Singleton to "radio play by play" school in the off-season. I like Chris, however, he is too slow on play by play and I get headaches trying to figure out what the actual play on the field is. But Singleton has great potential.

Hawk is awesome and DJ's come along way.

Just my humble opinion.

Hitmen77
09-26-2006, 09:02 PM
Get Dave Wills out of his TB contract and give him the PBP job!!

How about this for a trade: Uribe+Pods+Garcia+Farmer for Crawford+Wills?

October26
09-26-2006, 09:12 PM
How about this for a trade: Uribe+Pods+Garcia+Farmer for Crawford+Wills?

:kneeslap: But I respectfully disagree. Keep Farmer. Who else can we trade to get Dave Wills back?

johnr1note
09-26-2006, 09:27 PM
You know, I read this alot, but ESPN is no better. Mac, Jerko, and Harry is about as Animal House as it gets. And Dan Patrick (while he's is WAY better to listen to than Mike Murphy) has made a career of listing things he'll talk about, talk about them for about 5 minutes, long pauses of silence, then list other things he'll talk about later and who else will be on the show. And their commercials are just as bad as the Score's. They run gentlemen's clubs ads, they also do the male enhancement commericals. Matter of fact, I see far more of levitra ads during an hour of television on ESPN than I hear in a 4 hour show on the Score.

The Score isn't the best, but I'd rather have the broadcast money for the White Sox stay in Chicago, versus help fund the Disney megacorp.

Front

I have to beg to disagree -- while no one will ever mistake WMVP for NPR, the quality of the on-air personalities is definitely a cut above WSCR. It may be a matter of degrees -- sort of like arguing over whether reality television is better than watching desperate housewives. The thing I resent most is the personality and atmosphere of "frat boy radio" bleeding into the Sox broadcasts. WMVP really didn't have a personality -- thier on air stuff was basically bland and interchangable, so the Sox broadcasts could stand on thier own. WSCR is trying to graft themselves into the Sox. I don't like it.

I never thought i would yearn for the days in the late 80s, when the broadcasts were on WMAQ, and that insipid introductory theme they used to have . . . "rounding third... heading for home ... go White Sox! Double U-Em-Ay-Cue!!!" But even back then, when we had color guys like Del Crandal and Early Wynn . . . *feels cold shiver* I guess things could be worse... oh wait ... they are!!

OG4LIFE
09-26-2006, 10:26 PM
:farmer

"That's not heads up baseball, that's heads somewhere else!"

Farmio said this during the last tigers series when guillen stole third on the throwback from AJ to MacDougal... I laughed pretty hard at that one. Anyone else catch that?

And to the original poster, welcome to the US and WSI!

PaulDrake
09-26-2006, 10:39 PM
Send Singleton to "radio play by play" school in the off-season. I like Chris, however, he is too slow on play by play and I get headaches trying to figure out what the actual play on the field is. But Singleton has great potential.

I liked Singleton as a player, and as a human being he seems like a good person. It doesn't change the fact that he's the worst I've listened to in 50 years of following the game. I see no potential for much improvement either.

samram
09-26-2006, 10:42 PM
I liked Singleton as a player, and as a human being he seems like a good person. It doesn't change the fact that he's the worst I've listened to in 50 years of following the game. I see no potential for much improvement either.

Agreed. There's just no rhythm in his calls. Everything is very choppy and I don't think he reads what's happening out there at all.

tick53
09-26-2006, 11:31 PM
Keep Ed....launch DJ

BA: The Hitman
09-26-2006, 11:40 PM
No more singleton, pleeeeeeeeeeease no more singleton, I cant take it anymore.