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White City
09-11-2006, 04:04 PM
I now see the plan coming into form:

Javier Vasquez, much maligned for most of the 2006 season, tightens down his pitching with his final eight regular season starts to emerge as the Ace for the playoffs. Like Jose Contreras the year before, Javier has nasty stuff but has never put it all together. Now he does in a streak for the ages, leading the Sox to back-to-back World Series titles!

Crazy talk, I know, but his last four starts have all been decent (3.04 ERA), merely lacking run support (0-1 record). If he finishes out September like this, he and Giraffe boy will be the 1-2 punch for the playoffs. Not bad for the 4-5 guys, huh? Here's hoping if such a scenario does occur that it is like last year, not Sirotka/Parque all over again.

Chi Town Sox
09-11-2006, 04:05 PM
He's fine innings 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 but he sucks in the 6th even the game yesterday he gave up 2 runs that inning.

Shift
09-11-2006, 04:07 PM
Playoffs?

SoXPriDe33
09-11-2006, 04:11 PM
He's fine innings 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 but he sucks in the 6th even the game yesterday he gave up 2 runs that inning.

I'd rather him give up only 2 runs in the 6th inning and then none the rest of the time he's out than him giving up 6 runs in the 6th inning plus another 4 in the 5th inning. The guy isn't going to go out and put up zero's every inning of every game, he's made great steps to improving the way he pitches.

White City
09-11-2006, 04:12 PM
Right. His last four starts are as good as anyone else's on the Sox.

Fake Chet Lemon
09-11-2006, 04:15 PM
How does the bullpen falling apart fit into that evil plan?

Flight #24
09-11-2006, 04:15 PM
I now see the plan coming into form:

Javier Vasquez, much maligned for most of the 2006 season, tightens down his pitching with his final eight regular season starts to emerge as the Ace for the playoffs. Like Jose Contreras the year before, Javier has nasty stuff but has never put it all together. Now he does in a streak for the ages, leading the Sox to back-to-back World Series titles!

Crazy talk, I know, but his last four starts have all been decent (3.04 ERA), merely lacking run support (0-1 record). If he finishes out September like this, he and Giraffe boy will be the 1-2 punch for the playoffs. Not bad for the 4-5 guys, huh? Here's hoping if such a scenario does occur that it is like last year, not Sirotka/Parque all over again.
I was thinking this exact thing yesterday while watching the game. Jose came over in midseason '04, and took about a year before he suddenly hit stride and became a dominator. Expectations were that Javy would move quicker because he came over prior to ST, but here we are, 2/3 of the way through the season and he's also improving significantly.

Yes, he gave up 2 ER in the 6th. He also gave up ONLY 2 ER in the 6th and only 2ER in the 7 IP that he pitched. That's damn good, and following his last couple of starts, it's evidence that he's finally "getting it".

If the playoffs started today, IMO the rotation would be Garland-Contreras-Vazquez. Well, at least if they started today and the Sox were somehow deemed eligible.

Flight #24
09-11-2006, 04:17 PM
How does the bullpen falling apart fit into that evil plan?

Well, look at it this way: For the rest of this year (hopefully) and for '07, Kenny's got a slew of power arms: Thornton, McDougal, Jenks. Yes, he needs to add some more depth, but the problems of late are almost directly attributable to the injury/struggles of Jenks, which has limited things to 2 effective relievers.

Kenny will go find some long men, they're a lot easier to get than the short men.

White City
09-11-2006, 04:22 PM
Last four starts (with each SP having roughly four more starts to go):

1) Jon Garland
6 ER in 29 IP, 1.86 ERA (3-0 record)

2) Javy Vasquez
7 ER in 26.2 IP, 3.04 ERA (0-1 record)

3) Mark Buehrle
12 ER in 22.2 IP, 4.76 ERA (2-2 record)

4) Sweaty Freddy
17 ER in 25.2 IP, 5.96 ERA (2-1 record)

5) Jose Contreras
15 ER in 20.2 IP, 6.53 ERA (1-2 record)

Looking at this gives me a lot less confidence going into tonight, despite the quality of Jose's last start (8-1 win @ Boston).

slobes
09-11-2006, 04:53 PM
Last four starts (with each SP having roughly four more starts to go):

1) Jon Garland
6 ER in 29 IP, 1.86 ERA (3-0 record)

2) Javy Vasquez
7 ER in 26.2 IP, 3.04 ERA (0-1 record)

3) Mark Buehrle
12 ER in 22.2 IP, 4.76 ERA (2-2 record)

4) Sweaty Freddy
17 ER in 25.2 IP, 5.96 ERA (2-1 record)

5) Jose Contreras
15 ER in 20.2 IP, 6.53 ERA (1-2 record)

Looking at this gives me a lot less confidence going into tonight, despite the quality of Jose's last start (8-1 win @ Boston).

Javy's put up some great numbers lately, I'm surprised he hasn't even managed to scrape out one win. Jose and Freddy have frighteningly high ERAs as of late.

Sox-o-matic
09-11-2006, 08:34 PM
I wonder how much lower these guys' ERA would be if the middle of the bullpen actually knew how to strand inherited runners?

Regarding Javy's bad 6th innings, I don't think Ozzie has any choice anymore then to let him pitch through it. The bullpen has been crap until at least the late 7th/8th inning.

INSox56
09-11-2006, 09:04 PM
Playoffs?

Mora's the man

kitekrazy
09-11-2006, 09:10 PM
I wonder how much lower these guys' ERA would be if the middle of the bullpen actually knew how to strand inherited runners?


I was wondering that myself. They also seem to give up a lot of 2 out hits.