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HotelWhiteSox
09-03-2006, 11:06 AM
The fate of the season will rest on the last season of the series, at Minny, where they have been their best. It irked me when I first saw that on the schedule (while Cleveland, who we thought we'd be contending with, got TB at home). Sure it will be hard, but people also feared last year's last series with Cleveland, this is baseball, as long as pitching shows up, anything can happen. The second to last series at Cleveland will also be big as it seems we've had trouble with them this year. Hell, they're all big, Detroit's in that last 2 week stretch as well.

FielderJones
09-03-2006, 11:14 AM
The fate of the season will rest on the last season of the series, at Minny, where they have been their best.

:cleo


Before I go and make any predictions, I'd like to watch the seven series prior to that. We don't know which Sox will show up. If the champions do, the last series could be rendered meaningless.

caulfield12
09-03-2006, 11:23 AM
The fate of the season will rest on the last season of the series, at Minny, where they have been their best. It irked me when I first saw that on the schedule (while Cleveland, who we thought we'd be contending with, got TB at home). Sure it will be hard, but people also feared last year's last series with Cleveland, this is baseball, as long as pitching shows up, anything can happen. The second to last series at Cleveland will also be big as it seems we've had trouble with them this year. Hell, they're all big, Detroit's in that last 2 week stretch as well.

If the players thought like that (instead of the fans), we would officially be doomed. Thankfully, they don't. Winning in circumstances like that or what we went through last year make victory sweeter.

It would be perfect if we went there 1 up in the standings and ended up beating Santana for the first time at home all season. Although I'm sure most Sox fans would prefer a two game lead, if not a three game one.

35th&Shields
09-03-2006, 11:28 AM
Before I go and make any predictions, I'd like to watch the seven series prior to that. We don't know which Sox will show up. If the champions do, the last series could be rendered meaningless.

Exactly. If we enter the last series against the Twins 3.5 games up on them or higher, the series will be the most insignificant of any remaining series.

batmanZoSo
09-03-2006, 11:34 AM
So basically we're screwed?

I don't think that series will matter myself, but we shall see.

FoulTerritory
09-03-2006, 11:48 AM
Lovely that one of those games isn't televised . . . teal implied.

seems like this happens every year with the damn gophers game. eventually the annual untelevised game will turn out huge - like a potential clincher. hopefully not this year -- lets wrap it up before then.

soxfanatlanta
09-03-2006, 11:59 AM
Mabye you are right, mabye you are wrong. This team is too unpredictable for me to make statements like that. We shall see.

thomas35forever
09-03-2006, 01:05 PM
A lot can happen in a month. That's all I can say.

Palehose13
09-03-2006, 01:51 PM
Last year at this time, almost everyone thought that the last three games with Cleveland were what it was going to come down too. In fact, those last three games were the most insignificant. A lot can happen in the next 3.5 weeks, and as I type, the Twinkies are down in NY.

sox1970
09-03-2006, 02:05 PM
The Sox need to have a 2 game lead going into the final weekend for one win to get the wildcard. If the Twins go 14-11 in their 25 games before then, the Sox will need to go 15-9 in their 24 games. A Twins loss and a Sox win today could go a long way.

ondafarm
09-03-2006, 02:26 PM
I just don't think that last series at the dome will be three must wins. I think the Sox will be up by a game at that point.

caulfield12
09-03-2006, 04:53 PM
The Sox need to have a 2 game lead going into the final weekend for one win to get the wildcard. If the Twins go 14-11 in their 25 games before then, the Sox will need to go 15-9 in their 24 games. A Twins loss and a Sox win today could go a long way.

Your what hurts?

Garcia beat the worst team in the AL once in two starts? That's asking TOO much.

Heck, he's now below .500 in his career against the Royals. Maybe we should hold him out for the really big games we absolutely, 100% have to win.

ChiSoxIn06
09-03-2006, 05:00 PM
Garcia sucks, plain and simple. I cant wait till the season is over so we can trade him and not have to deal with him anymore.

jabrch
09-03-2006, 05:05 PM
Garcia sucks, plain and simple. I cant wait till the season is over so we can trade him and not have to deal with him anymore.

Freddy Sucks...Jose Sucks...Javy Sucks...Mark Sucks...Gar sucks...

I've heard it all year. It's like some people never watched baseball until freaking OCTOBER last year. There are loads of teams that would be happy to have Freddy. If KW is moving him in the offseason, he will have plenty of takers.

jongarlandlover
09-03-2006, 05:10 PM
Garcia sucks, plain and simple. I cant wait till the season is over so we can trade him and not have to deal with him anymore.

i agree completely. just get rid of him, i'm tired of seeing him out there pitching for us.

caulfield12
09-03-2006, 05:17 PM
Freddy Sucks...Jose Sucks...Javy Sucks...Mark Sucks...Gar sucks...

I've heard it all year. It's like some people never watched baseball until freaking OCTOBER last year. There are loads of teams that would be happy to have Freddy. If KW is moving him in the offseason, he will have plenty of takers.

Yeah, if the White Sox are paying at least half of his $10 million salary.

Paulwny
09-03-2006, 05:20 PM
Yeah, if the White Sox are paying at least half of his $10 million salary.

Agree, other GM's are seeing exactly what we've been seeing.

caulfield12
09-03-2006, 05:34 PM
Garcia has been getting his fastball up to 90 and an occasional 91/92 the last two games. That's encouraging, I guess.

But you don't get beat by Angel Berroa and Ryan Shealy (twice) in a must-win game.

At least they didn't have a chance to start a track meet on the bases, and they were nice enough to sacrifice a runner to AJ at 2nd (Shealy, running I'm not sure why exactly).

I just don't think there's a huge market out there for a pitcher who's a 4/5 who's paid like a 2.

Is he more marketable than El Duque? Yes, of course. But it's either going to cost us money (subsidized) or Fields/Sweeney/Broadway to dump him on someone.

Lorenzo Barcelo
09-03-2006, 05:40 PM
:cleo


Before I go and make any predictions, I'd like to watch the seven series prior to that. We don't know which Sox will show up. If the champions do, the last series could be rendered meaningless.

I have yet to see the champions show up this year. Hawk even mentioned it...they are playing with less intensity. Whos to blame for that?

Grzegorz
09-03-2006, 06:09 PM
I just don't think there's a huge market out there for a pitcher who's a 4/5 who's paid like a 2.

Is he more marketable than El Duque? Yes, of course. But it's either going to cost us money (subsidized) or Fields/Sweeney/Broadway to dump him on someone.

Pay the money; keep the prospects...

caulfield12
09-03-2006, 06:15 PM
That's the problem, we've never made that type of trade in recent Sox history...about the closest is just dumping Durham for Adkins so that Harris could play 2nd base.

But we certainly didn't send the A's any money for him. We just accepted a "B" prospect in return.

markopat
09-03-2006, 07:18 PM
Does anyone here remeber the Bulls Championship runs????

Lord have mercy! This team will bring their game to another level the last 2 weeks of the season and in the playoffs...Just like the Bulls did.

Get off the ledge or jump.

STRETCH!!!
09-03-2006, 09:08 PM
I remember after the all-star break I had a drive ahead of me and I sat and listenned to the SCORE for about 90 minutes or so. Whoever it was, was going on and on about how it was going to be NYY, Bost, Det, and the Sox for 3 spots in the postseason, and it didn't matter who won the West because the AL West stunk, and blah, blah, blah, this guy had it all figure out. Well, here we are 7 weeks later and that fool was as wrong as any other fool who said they knew what was going to happen. Today, Boston is as out of it as Toronto, and I think Oakland is looking like the team to beat in the AL.

Going 3-3 against the likes of TB and KC hurts, but it wasn't 0-6 and we are still a half a game in front of the Twins. With all the yelp about not playing like champions, the Sox do seem to be a team that is able to hang around and I don't think we are going to fold. Hanging in there may be good enough to get us to the postseason. The postseason is an entirely different animal and anything can happen.

Lip Man 1
09-03-2006, 09:38 PM
Lorenzo:

That's a question that has been asked elsewhere here. Who's to blame? Players or Manager?

Lip

kitekrazy
09-03-2006, 11:38 PM
Does anyone here remeber the Bulls Championship runs????

Lord have mercy! This team will bring their game to another level the last 2 weeks of the season and in the playoffs...Just like the Bulls did.

Get off the ledge or jump.

Oh they definitely have brought their game to another level when it comes to disappointing fans.

I just don't think a switch is going to turn on when you look at how pathetic the pitching really is. If a starter has a good outing then someone in the bullpen screws it up or the bats don't show up. The team ERA is in the bottom half of the AL.

viagracat
09-04-2006, 11:27 AM
Now that we're done playing the so-called "patsies", maybe the Sox will no longer play down to their competition. They seem to step up against the tougher opponents, at least some of the time. We'll see.

Let's put Boston out of their misery this series. It'd be nice to only have to be concerned with Minnesota and Detroit. If we don't take care of business here, not only is Boston back in the hunt, but maybe the Angels and even Toronto as well. Time to start winning NOW.