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caulfield12
09-02-2006, 10:31 AM
In month of August

11 Games

45 AB's
8 Runs scored
15 hits
.333 AVG
.622 SLG
+.400 OBP
7 Doubles
2 HR's
4 RBI's
4 BB
5 K's

One K/9 AB's, tremendously better than Pods or Curtis Granderson.

itsnotrequired
09-02-2006, 10:37 AM
One K/9 AB's, tremendously better than Pods or Curtis Granderson.

...against minor league pitching. I'm not saying he won't be successful in the majors but there is a reason those pitchers are in the minors and it isn't to save salary.

sox1970
09-02-2006, 10:39 AM
...against minor league pitching. I'm not saying he won't be successful in the majors but there is a reason those pitchers are in the minors and it isn't to save salary.

True, but at least he got his feet wet as a leadoff hitter. I'd have no problem with Sweeney batting leadoff the rest of this series just to see how it goes. Might find lightning in a bottle.

caulfield12
09-02-2006, 10:45 AM
He's been pretty consistent.

Winston-Salem, 65 K's in 515 AB's (1/7.9)
Birmingham, 53 K's in 429 AB's (1/8.10)
Charlotte, 73 K's in 449 AB's (1/6.15)

However, he's really improved his K/BB/OBP as leadoff hitter, albeit a limited sample. But he's definitely striking out less.

WALKS
W-S 40
BIRM 35
CHAR 35

You'd like to see these numbers in the 60's or 70's, but he's holding his own.

Chips
09-02-2006, 10:49 AM
True, but at least he got his feet wet as a leadoff hitter. I'd have no problem with Sweeney batting leadoff the rest of this series just to see how it goes. Might find lightning in a bottle.

I would usually say now is not the time to try new things "just to see how it goes," but Pods hasn't been a consistent leadoff hitter since God knows when.

I'm leaning towards the change.

caulfield12
09-02-2006, 10:50 AM
Before last night's game, Pods had struck out 23 times in his last 99 AB's.

Obviously, he needs to make more contact, and preferably on the ground to the left side...although he hasn't beaten many of those out recently.

There are only about five significantly leadoff hitters that can get you 30+ steals and make good contact.

Dave Roberts
Brian Roberts
Ichiro
Juan Pierre
Jimmy Rollins

Not the point of this thread, but the natural move would be to trade Garcia/Uribe (and maybe Pods, if they wanted him) for Rollins. Philadelphia might very well make the playoffs and they could use another pitcher to finish out their rotation and go with their young guys. Garcia would perform better in the NL, and Philly has tons of money since they've dumped Abreu, Lidle, etc.

Don't want D. Roberts. Maybe Pierre (no teal, sorry). Think we'll keep Iguchi, so B. Roberts is out. That leaves the numerous Ichiro, Crawford and A-Rod theories to float around out there.

ZombieRob
09-02-2006, 11:01 AM
Lisa Dergen has made Pods weak Legged.

viagracat
09-02-2006, 11:02 AM
Sweeney was one hitter away (or at least in the on-deck circle) from a batting debut in the biggest game situation there is last night. Would've been interesting to see how he'd handle it.

Beer Can Chicken
09-02-2006, 11:11 AM
Before we annoint him our lead-off hitter, we should probably see if he can get his first hit.
It would be great if he pulled a Delmon Young though.

slobes
09-02-2006, 11:12 AM
True, but at least he got his feet wet as a leadoff hitter. I'd have no problem with Sweeney batting leadoff the rest of this series just to see how it goes. Might find lightning in a bottle.

Now is definitely not the time to do that. These are 2 games against the Royals that we must win. It's not like we got an 8 game lead and it's ok to rest some of our starters. We're fighting for a playoff spot now--our best have to be playing every day.

caulfield12
09-02-2006, 11:19 AM
What is Pods "best" at doing?

He's averaging six steals the last two months. That's less than two per week, and it's really eight, because he's been caught four times...so less than one successful steal per week.

Sweeney is 10X the defender that Pods is, and nobody would need to sub for him, so our bench would be better utilized IMO. And nobody's going to be running on his arm.

The defense alone, plus the extra base power...that MORE than makes up for any steals that Pods gets.

Chips
09-02-2006, 11:30 AM
Now is definitely not the time to do that. These are 2 games against the Royals that we must win. It's not like we got an 8 game lead and it's ok to rest some of our starters. We're fighting for a playoff spot now--our best have to be playing every day.

Is Pods really the best we have?

ZombieRob
09-02-2006, 11:40 AM
Is Sweeney slated to start in the line up tonite?

Beer Can Chicken
09-02-2006, 12:10 PM
IMHO, I don't think putting a rookie with ZERO MLB at-bats in the lead-off spot during a playoff race in the month of September is a good thing for the team or for the player.
I suspect he'll get a couple of at-bats late in wide-open games maybe even a start batting low in the order this weekend to see what he can do and Ozzie will go from there.

Beautox
09-02-2006, 12:47 PM
Before last night's game, Pods had struck out 23 times in his last 99 AB's.

Obviously, he needs to make more contact, and preferably on the ground to the left side...although he hasn't beaten many of those out recently.

There are only about five significantly leadoff hitters that can get you 30+ steals and make good contact.

Dave Roberts
Brian Roberts
Ichiro
Juan Pierre
Jimmy Rollins

Not the point of this thread, but the natural move would be to trade Garcia/Uribe (and maybe Pods, if they wanted him) for Rollins. Philadelphia might very well make the playoffs and they could use another pitcher to finish out their rotation and go with their young guys. Garcia would perform better in the NL, and Philly has tons of money since they've dumped Abreu, Lidle, etc.

Don't want D. Roberts. Maybe Pierre (no teal, sorry). Think we'll keep Iguchi, so B. Roberts is out. That leaves the numerous Ichiro, Crawford and A-Rod theories to float around out there.

I realize he came on fire last night, but if the Yankees don't make noise in the post season and Arod doesn't have some Heroics i could see him being on the block, now it would take ALOT to get him but i could see that as a possibility. Garcia + Fields + Cotts + Phillips. Phillips had a great year down at AAA and is either going to be a big leaguer or get labled as a AAAA time will shortly tell "but the numbers is the numbers" and he did it at the knights castle which is a hitters park. If we acquired Arod i would move him back to SS his natural position, i think if you move him out of NY and into Chicago and put him in our line up he turns it around immediately, and our fans embrace him.

Or we acquire the likes of Jimmy Rollins (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/player.jsp?player_id=276519) for Garcia + Uribe, the phillies have Bourn waiting in the wings, other than that i could see the sox going after Julio Lugo or using Ryan as an in house option all of these are fine by me.

Beautox
09-02-2006, 12:54 PM
Before we annoint him our lead-off hitter, we should probably see if he can get his first hit.
It would be great if he pulled a Delmon Young though.


*NOTE* I'm not about to proclaim Ryan Sweeney the next Delmon Young, but i will say that Ryans stats (http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Ryan%20Sweeney&pos=OF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=435220) were comperable to Youngs stats (http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Delmon%20Young&pos=OF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=430321) this year at AAA, Ryan hit more HRs and Young had More SB so take your pick, and both were born in '85 Young is seven months younger. Ryan is left handed and does have a sweet swing. This is Sweeneys line for his last 170ABs .318/.386/.565 with 25 extra-base hits.

caulfield12
09-02-2006, 01:07 PM
I think we need to hold onto Cotts at least until the end of ST.

His arm should rebound next year with rest. Although it's not exactly like the bullpen was taxed in the post-season last year. But his pitches are missing crispness. Maybe it's confidence.

I know Boone looked a heckuva lot better than the first tour of duty.

Has anyone watched Phillips in person? Does he remind you more of a Josh Stewart or a potential Buehrle (yeah, I know, 1 in 100 lefties will be anything comparable over their careers)?

TheOldRoman
09-02-2006, 01:28 PM
Before last night's game, Pods had struck out 23 times in his last 99 AB's.

Obviously, he needs to make more contact, and preferably on the ground to the left side...although he hasn't beaten many of those out recently.

There are only about five significantly leadoff hitters that can get you 30+ steals and make good contact.

Dave Roberts
Brian Roberts
Ichiro
Juan Pierre
Jimmy Rollins

Not the point of this thread, but the natural move would be to trade Garcia/Uribe (and maybe Pods, if they wanted him) for Rollins. Philadelphia might very well make the playoffs and they could use another pitcher to finish out their rotation and go with their young guys. Garcia would perform better in the NL, and Philly has tons of money since they've dumped Abreu, Lidle, etc.

Don't want D. Roberts. Maybe Pierre (no teal, sorry). Think we'll keep Iguchi, so B. Roberts is out. That leaves the numerous Ichiro, Crawford and A-Rod theories to float around out there.
Are we talking about the same Jimmy Rollins? The one who has a .342 OBP this year, and had never posted higher than .348? No thank you. That isn't an improvement over Pods. Hell, Pods is having a horrible season, and Rollins is only getting on .10 more often. Obviously, Rollins has more power, and he fills a more traditional lead-off position (allowing us to get a better hitter for LF), but I want a better lead-off hitter than him. He would be a worthwhile player, but he will be grossly overpaid, and he would cost too much in a trade. No thanks.

caulfield12
09-02-2006, 01:34 PM
Does anyone see any possible combination of players that could be traded for Ichiro or Crawford that doesn't include McCarthy?

We can't just dump Vazquez or Garcia on anyone because they have a leadoff hitter we'd like to acquire.

Would letting Iguchi go for Brian Roberts improve the team, for instance?

Then it seems like it comes back to Juan Pierre again, unfortunately.

There just aren't that many SS's with leadoff qualities that are actually available in trade.

digdagdug23
09-02-2006, 01:37 PM
Is it wrong that I want them to play Sweeney just so I can say "I know a major-league player?" Okay then, I'll stop now. :redneck

Beautox
09-02-2006, 01:39 PM
I think we need to hold onto Cotts at least until the end of ST.

His arm should rebound next year with rest. Although it's not exactly like the bullpen was taxed in the post-season last year. But his pitches are missing crispness. Maybe it's confidence.

I know Boone looked a heckuva lot better than the first tour of duty.

Has anyone watched Phillips in person? Does he remind you more of a Josh Stewart or a potential Buehrle (yeah, I know, 1 in 100 lefties will be anything comparable over their careers)?

You can watch Both Heath and Haeger here (http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/multimedia/video.jsp) for free click select date and move it to July 12th, Pacific Coast League All-Stars @ International League All-Stars , its the AAA allstar game Haeger starts the game (fastforward to 48:00) and Heath picks up the W (he enters the game at 1:13). Hope that helps.