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Lillian
09-01-2006, 08:16 AM
I'd like to see Crede batting in Konerko's place in the lineup. Their stats are almost identical, except that Joe strikes out about half as much as Paulie.
Joe has always been a better clutch hitter, even before he started to hit for average.
Although, he isn't fast, at least he doesn't clog up the bases, as Konerko does. With Thome so hampered with the hamstring, we can't afford to have both Thome and Konerko, in the middle of the order. I love seeing J D batting third, and with Crede batting fourth or fifth, we can leave the two slowest guys to "clean up" whoever is left on base, after our two best clutch hitters finish their at bats.
Doesn't that make sense?
I'd like to see the order be something like this: Dye, Crede, Thome, Konerko, Pierzynski. They would still have the two left handed bats spaced in such a way as to break up the order.

The Dude
09-01-2006, 08:59 AM
Although, he isn't fast, at least he doesn't clog up the bases, as Konerko does. :threadsucks

How did I guess an anti-PK thread would come today after the GIDP from yesterday?:rolleyes:

nevr say dye sox
09-01-2006, 09:33 AM
hom many double plays is Konerko going to hit in this year?

Frater Perdurabo
09-01-2006, 09:46 AM
hom many double plays is Konerko going to hit in this year?

He's actually cut down on his GIDPs over previous seasons; he's become more adept at staying with the pitch and hitting it to right field.

GIDPs always will be part of his game, though, for several reasons:

1. He hits the ball hard;

2. He runs slowly;

3. Since he's not a prototypical #3 hitter, he's likely to bat behind another relatively slow runner.

Lillian
09-01-2006, 09:49 AM
"How did I guess an anti-PK thread would come today after the GIDP from yesterday?:rolleyes:"

My post was not meant as an "anti-PK" thread. I love Paulie, but let's be realistic. He has always hit into a lot of double plays, as many of us have noted in the past. The point here is that it might be better not to have Thome and Konerko batting in front of Crede, who is a better clutch hitter, and can run better than either one of them.
The better argument against my suggestion is that both Thome and Konerko have a higher OBP than Crede. Nevertheless, I think that it would be better to have Crede bat in front of both of them.
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Tekijawa
09-01-2006, 09:53 AM
I don't like the Idea of Konerko playing thirdbase! :cool:

The Dude
09-01-2006, 09:54 AM
I don't like the Idea of Konerko playing thirdbase! :cool:

Or Crede playing first!:redneck

Martinigirl
09-01-2006, 10:05 AM
What is with the anti-Paulie posts lately?


And as far as Crede, maybe the reason Crede gets the at bats he does is because of where he bats? Crede is a good player, but he is not the hitter Paulie is and switching them in the batting order would be insane.

Tekijawa
09-01-2006, 10:07 AM
At this point I would like to make my case for moving Anderson up in the order though, ahead of Uribe... Anderson is batting almost .300 since the all Star break and has a nice OBP since then too, let him drive in AJ and Crede!

viagracat
09-01-2006, 10:25 AM
I think you keep Konerko in the heart of the lineup for now. He's a more disciplined hitter than Crede as he's more willing to take a walk as well as his .377 OBP; third highest among the regulars. Also, I don't think you make such a big change at this point in the season. I was a little surprised Dye was moved to third, although I sure like that move.

Crede, of course, has really come around and could be a middle-of-the-lineup guy on a lot of teams. I imiagine they'll consider it next year, but not now.

BeviBall!
09-01-2006, 10:59 AM
Crede has a bald spot?

IlliniSox4Life
09-01-2006, 11:27 AM
At this point I would like to make my case for moving Anderson up in the order though, ahead of Uribe... Anderson is batting almost .300 since the all Star break and has a nice OBP since then too, let him drive in AJ and Crede!

I actually like Anderson batting 9th. I'm more concerned with him getting on for Pods/Iguchi/Dye/Thome to drive in than for him to drive in Crede/Pierzynski.

kitekrazy
09-01-2006, 11:42 AM
What is with the anti-Paulie posts lately?


He's in a slump right now. He was due for a slump.

LuvSox
09-01-2006, 12:01 PM
Can he play center? :D:

soxfan13
09-01-2006, 12:27 PM
He's in a slump right now. He was due for a slump.

Up til yesterdays game he was batting .380 2 HRs 14 RBIs in the last 18 games. If thats a slump I hope he stays in it. HRs are low but thats ok.

chisoxfanatic
09-01-2006, 01:59 PM
Konerko is in the right spot in the lineup. If I'd consider changing anyone at all, it would be Pierzynski and Crede. I really like Crede's production when he's hitting in the 5-hole.

Domeshot17
09-01-2006, 02:12 PM
Konerko is fine where he is. The offense for the most part is fine how it is (except maybe more cintron at short and more mackowiak in LEFTFIELD). The big problem has been the pitching. We need the bullpen to actually hold some leads

Lillian
09-01-2006, 10:52 PM
Well, I'm personally not convinced. I guess I'm just more impressed with what Crede has done, than the rest of you are. Joe is the only other player in the Big Leagues to have approximately 30 homers, or more, with less than 50 stike outs. (Carlos Lee is the other, with 28 homers and 39 strike outs.) That, combined with Joe's clutch hitting, makes him better than a sixth place hitter, IMHO.
My original point was that the Sox shouldn't have two guys running like the injured Thome, and the always slow Konerko, batting four and five. When Thome recovers, maybe that lineup would be fine, but not now.
That's what makes the game so much fun. Everyone has an opinion. Thanks for all of yours.

MISoxfan
09-01-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm a little bit worried about Paulie going into September based on his monthy splits this season. If you take a look at it he's been alternating from batting .240 to .360, but with a lot more power during the .240 months.

Well I'm not that worried, but he is due to slow down a bit.