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soxinem1
08-28-2006, 11:04 AM
There have been a ot of threads lately about 'Best All-Time' for individual teams, and past threads have resurrected disliked guys like Clayton, Navarro, Mike Stanton, etc.

And favorite players like Thomas, Baines, Appling, Pierce mainly involved players of star quality.

But who is your favorite White Sox scrub? A player who may not have excelled on the field, but you just happened to like for some odd reason.

One of my favorites was Rodney McCray. He had the enthusiasm of Kirby Pucket, if not the ability. Another was Kevin Bell.

batmanZoSo
08-28-2006, 11:08 AM
You mean players that are bad but you like them anyway? Or do you mean bench players? Because if it's the latter I have to say Pablo. He's just amazing. Good things just happen when he plays. If the game is on the line and all we need is a base hit, I'd take him at bat after Jermaine.

I also liked Greg Norton. He sucked something fierce at third, but damn it if he didn't try. And he got the occasional big hit for us, too.

Madvora
08-28-2006, 11:10 AM
I've always been a huge fan of Sox bench players.

My #1...

Mike Huff

Paulwny
08-28-2006, 11:11 AM
Sammy Esposito

salty99
08-28-2006, 11:11 AM
And Norton is still kicking butt for the Devil Rays.

I liked Mike Huff, and currently Ross Gload.

Madvora
08-28-2006, 11:12 AM
My #2...

Joe "Do It All" Hall

Scottzilla
08-28-2006, 11:13 AM
theres no scrubs on this team!

nedlug
08-28-2006, 11:13 AM
Mike Caruso, even though he did have that one awesome year.

LongLiveFisk
08-28-2006, 11:15 AM
I really like Daubach back in '03. He was really ripping the ball for a while during the summer months, then demoted to almost no playing time and his average suffered.

Frankly Missing
08-28-2006, 11:15 AM
Charles Johnson, he was a grinder before grinder was cool.

hi im skot
08-28-2006, 11:15 AM
Timo Perez. People always gave him a hard time, but he had some HUGE hits.

Craig Grebeck and Warren Newsome were some great "scrubs", too.

I think the "scrub" title of this thread might be a bit misleading...

soxfan13
08-28-2006, 11:19 AM
Loved the "little hurt" - Craig Grebeck

eriqjaffe
08-28-2006, 11:19 AM
Where's the Norberto "Paco" Martin love?

...personally, I don't know if he would count as a "scrub", but I always really liked Mike Squires.

Myrtle72
08-28-2006, 11:20 AM
Yeah, I am not sure I understand if you're asking for a bench player or someone who really does suck...

But, right now, I think Gload is freggin' awesome. Every time he plays he does really well and he always suprises me. I might be bias about this though... I got to see his grand slam against Baltimore last month and that really impressed me :) Not to mention the fact that my fiance is a hardcore Orioles fan, it just stirred up our rivalry.

batmanZoSo
08-28-2006, 11:21 AM
I really like Daubach back in '03. He was really ripping the ball for a while during the summer months, then demoted to almost no playing time and his average suffered.

Yeah he was a quality left handed bat when he got regular playing time. He got a bad rap when he was here. In all honesty, I think we'd have won the division if he was our every day 1st baseman in 03. Konerko just killed us.

cheezheadsoxfan
08-28-2006, 11:22 AM
Sammy Esposito

My first thought also.

hi im skot
08-28-2006, 11:24 AM
Where's the Norberto "Paco" Martin love?



Yes!

Paco!

soxinem1
08-28-2006, 11:32 AM
You mean players that are bad but you like them anyway? Or do you mean bench players? Because if it's the latter I have to say Pablo. He's just amazing. Good things just happen when he plays. If the game is on the line and all we need is a base hit, I'd take him at bat after Jermaine.

I also liked Greg Norton. He sucked something fierce at third, but damn it if he didn't try. And he got the occasional big hit for us, too.

I noted in the start of the thread that we were talking about players who may not have excelled on the field, but you just happened to like.

And by the way, I like Norton too, I really thought he should have been on the team last year.

DaleJRFan
08-28-2006, 11:56 AM
Ross Gload is ****ing awesome. He's my favorite non-favorite Sox player. :?: :cool:

tebman
08-28-2006, 11:59 AM
How is it that we haven't heard yet from bafiarocks03 and her endearing but inexplicable affection for Willie Harris?

:dunno:

Lip Man 1
08-28-2006, 12:13 PM
Two words...

AL WEIS

Lip

Madvora
08-28-2006, 12:14 PM
How is it that we haven't heard yet from bafiarocks03 and her endearing but inexplicable affection for Willie Harris?

:dunno:
I think it's the use of the word "scrub"
There's no connection made between that and Willie Harris.

southwstchi4life
08-28-2006, 12:17 PM
Mike Caruso, even though he did have that one awesome year.

I second that, but my reason is for that game winning homerun against the cubs in the rain

0o0o0
08-28-2006, 12:18 PM
The Deacon

samram
08-28-2006, 12:20 PM
Paco Martin.

DrummerGeorgefan
08-28-2006, 12:21 PM
John Cangelosi...being 6 and seeing him hustle really sticks in my memory

Foulke You
08-28-2006, 12:22 PM
Brian Simmons- Great glove but injuries shortened his career

Jeff Abbott- One great shining walk off homer against the Twins in 2000

skottyj242
08-28-2006, 12:22 PM
Ross Gload is ****ing awesome. He's my favorite non-favorite Sox player. :?: :cool:

He's my favorite player on the team.

pasquasroachclip
08-28-2006, 12:33 PM
Jerry Hairston Sr.

Britt Burns
08-28-2006, 12:38 PM
Does Mike Squires count since he did start for a few years? A lefty who caught and played 3rd every once in a while, not to mention the slickest fielding first baseman the Sox have ever had.

Grebeck, Michael Huff and the Deacon also come to mind, and Ross Gload is awesome.

Chips
08-28-2006, 12:44 PM
Timo Perez. People always gave him a hard time, but he had some HUGE hits.



And he was pretty much useless the three months in between his "HUGE" hits.

I ****ing hate Timo.

A "scrub" that I like would have to be Ross Gload.

pasquasroachclip
08-28-2006, 12:50 PM
Does Mike Squires count since he did start for a few years? A lefty who caught and played 3rd every once in a while, not to mention the slickest fielding first baseman the Sox have ever had.

Grebeck, Michael Huff and the Deacon also come to mind, and Ross Gload is awesome.

I would count him as a bench player because he really only started for part of '81 when Lamar Johnson got really fat/bad.

Fake Chet Lemon
08-28-2006, 12:52 PM
Jerry Hairston Sr.

Second that nomination. That guy was the best pinch-hitter ever. He seemed automatic when you needed a huge pinch hit. And one game I was at, he broke up a no-hitter in the 8th or 9th inning. As a youngster for some reason I thought we was like superman for doing that.

skottyj242
08-28-2006, 12:53 PM
And he was pretty much useless the three months in between his "HUGE" hits.

I ****ing hate Timo.

A "scrub" that I like would have to be Ross Gload.

If Ross Gload is a scrub then so was Canseco.

skottyj242
08-28-2006, 12:54 PM
Mark Johnson and Jamie Burke.

pasquasroachclip
08-28-2006, 12:57 PM
Second that nomination. That guy was the best pinch-hitter ever. He seemed automatic when you needed a huge pinch hit. And one game I was at, he broke up a no-hitter in the 8th or 9th inning. As a youngster for some reason I thought we was like superman for doing that.

I remember that game- it was in 82 or 83 against Detroit (I think it was Dan Petry). He also hit a pinch hit walkoff HR against Detroit around that same time.

viagracat
08-28-2006, 01:01 PM
Gload is the best "scrub" on the team, although Mack, despite the fact he's not a CF, also can hit, has some speed and does whatever he's asked to do without complaining.

I liked Willie Harris and John Cangelosi from the past, although Rocky Biddle gets my vote for best name. :smile: I guess I like guys who hustle.

Fake Chet Lemon
08-28-2006, 01:06 PM
I remember that game- it was in 82 or 83 against Detroit (I think it was Dan Petry). He also hit a pinch hit walkoff HR against Detroit around that same time.

I though I remembered that it was Detroit too. When people bring up hi-lites of '83 that never gets a mention, so probably was '82. Hi-lites of '82 NEVER get brought up!

soxinem1
08-28-2006, 01:09 PM
I remember that game- it was in 82 or 83 against Detroit (I think it was Dan Petry). He also hit a pinch hit walkoff HR against Detroit around that same time.

It was ex-Cub Milt Wilcox in 1983. It was an 0-2 pitch, if I remember.....

Nobody brings up the 1983 no-hitter against the White Sox that Mike Warren threw for Oakland, either.... After all, it was not a Sox Highlight.

pasquasroachclip
08-28-2006, 01:12 PM
I though I remembered that it was Detroit too. When people bring up hi-lites of '83 that never gets a mention, so probably was '82. Hi-lites of '82 NEVER get brought up!

I just looked it up on retrosheet.org (slow day). The no-hitter he broke up was 4/15/83 off Milt Wilcox. The walk off HR was off Dan Petry in 1982. Maybe it's just my imagination, but all those old Tiger pitchers (Wilcox, Petry, Morris) seemed to look the same!

ajismyhero
08-28-2006, 01:12 PM
Scotty Fletcher or Craig Greback. You gotta love those scrappy infielders.

aryzner
08-28-2006, 01:14 PM
My first thought was Craig Grebeck but I saw that others posted it already so I'm not so original coming into this thread so late.

But yeah, I liked Craig!

vegyrex
08-28-2006, 01:17 PM
Craig Grebeck, Norberto Martin and Warren Newsome. They always gave it everything they had. They were never the best players on the team but you rooted like heck for them every single time.

eriqjaffe
08-28-2006, 01:19 PM
How is it that we haven't heard yet from bafiarocks03 and her endearing but inexplicable affection for Willie Harris?

:dunno:We'll probably hear about it after school. ;)

soxfanatlanta
08-28-2006, 01:20 PM
Harry Chappas - At 5'3", he was a rallying cry for the little guy.

eriqjaffe
08-28-2006, 01:29 PM
Over the past few years, I've been a big Gload fan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/fizzjob/miscellaneous/in-gload-we-trust-17.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/fizzjob/miscellaneous/gload-is-my-copilot-17.gif

stacksedwards
08-28-2006, 01:43 PM
Ben Davis, Felix Diaz, and Steve Lyons

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2006, 01:51 PM
Really tough to narrow this list down.

Shawn Abner, Joe Hall and Pablo.

Soxfanspcu11
08-28-2006, 01:52 PM
Chris Snopek. I remember being at a game way back when where he hit 2 homeruns and was sent down to the minors the following day. :?:

D. TODD
08-28-2006, 02:03 PM
Second that nomination. That guy was the best pinch-hitter ever. He seemed automatic when you needed a huge pinch hit. And one game I was at, he broke up a no-hitter in the 8th or 9th inning. As a youngster for some reason I thought we was like superman for doing that. Jerry Hairston is my pick as well. He was as tough as you can get as a stick of the bench. A true pro, who knew his limited job and did it well. I liked Spanky Lavallere (spelling?). behind the plate giving all that non athletic body had to give every night too.

Fred Manrique
08-28-2006, 02:09 PM
Where's the Norberto "Paco" Martin love?

...personally, I don't know if he would count as a "scrub", but I always really liked Mike Squires.

I knew someone would beat me to him, but I loved Paco as a kid. I think we all talked about him within the last couple months anyway.

Madvora
08-28-2006, 02:11 PM
Matt Merullo

Does "The Milk Man" count?

DaleJRFan
08-28-2006, 02:11 PM
Over the past few years, I've been a big Gload fan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/fizzjob/miscellaneous/in-gload-we-trust-17.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/fizzjob/miscellaneous/gload-is-my-copilot-17.gif

When Gload was hitting 450 in AAA last season, I took a sign to a game "LET ROSS PLAY" but because of where I my seats were, was unable to wave it in front of Ozzie... :cool:

I still can't find a Gload jersey. Guess I'll have to wait until the garage sale at the 07 Soxfest. :D:

areilly
08-28-2006, 02:13 PM
Toss-up between Darrin Jackson or Kenny Williams.

In all seriousness, I vote for any of the non-starters or non-stars from the early 90's teams.

Warren Newsom, Craig Grebeck, Scott Fletcher, Paul Assenmacher, Kirk McCaskill, Dan Pasqua...they were just so cool.

At least, they were to me. But what did I know? I was only 12.

Madvora
08-28-2006, 02:13 PM
I still can't find a Gload jersey. Guess I'll have to wait until the garage sale at the 07 Soxfest. :D:
Just thought I'd look it up for you real quick..
Here's a Charlotte one...
Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/2003-CHARLOTTE-KNIGHTS-ROSS-GLOAD-GAME-WORN-USED-JERSEY_W0QQitemZ120022438364QQihZ002QQcategoryZ605 97QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://i22.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/14/f3/51_1.JPG

eriqjaffe
08-28-2006, 02:18 PM
My wife was going to get me a customized Gload jersey back in '04, when he was still wearing #26, but we couldn't afford it.

the gooch
08-28-2006, 02:51 PM
Does 'Officer' Karkovice count as a scrub?
I guess I am partial to catchers.
I will definitely second the Jamie Burke nomination and also throw Josh Paul into the mix, though I doubt I will get much support on that one.
I also loved 'the milkman' because every time he walked, I would chastize the pitcher for being afraid to pitch to a guy named Herbert. Maybe it's just a 2-first-names thing with Burke, Paul, and Perry. (But I couldn't stand Ben Davis from Day 1. Go figure.)

BadBobbyJenks
08-28-2006, 02:58 PM
Norton you're the greatest, always loved that.

Chisox003
08-28-2006, 03:02 PM
Aside from who's been mentioned...

Geoff Blum anyone?

In his 3 months as a member of the White Sox, I think he had 1 hit. That was unreal.

mrfourni
08-28-2006, 03:12 PM
Not neccesarily a scrub, but Tony G. was a bench player most of the time that I always liked.

PKalltheway
08-28-2006, 03:13 PM
I would have to go with Pablo. I also liked Jeff Liefer a few years back.

hi im skot
08-28-2006, 03:28 PM
Aside from who's been mentioned...

Geoff Blum anyone?

In his 3 months as a member of the White Sox, I think he had 1 hit. That was unreal.

Not to mention the most amazing slide into third base EVER in Minnesota.

maurice
08-28-2006, 03:32 PM
I loved the way Tony Graffanino played . . . when he was in Boston.
:gulp:

Jurr
08-28-2006, 04:28 PM
John Cangielosi. Hands down. No brainer.

Daubach is a close second, but that's because he's been a "drinking buddy" after weekend Redbirds games.

AnkleSox
08-28-2006, 05:47 PM
I wouldn't say he was my favorite, but since it was so recently, I'd have to say that Ben Davis seemed like a really cool guy, and it was hilarious to see him sprint around the bases after he hit his first home run. :D:

Chips
08-28-2006, 05:47 PM
If Ross Gload is a scrub then so was Canseco.

:duel:

MDF3530
08-28-2006, 05:51 PM
Jerry Hairston or the Deacon (Warren Newsom). Ellis Burks was okay too.

MDF3530
08-28-2006, 05:52 PM
John Cangielosi. Hands down. No brainer.

Daubach is a close second, but that's because he's been a "drinking buddy" after weekend Redbirds games.You like the Candy Man?

eurotrash35
08-28-2006, 06:00 PM
another vote for the milkman herb

ILuvThatDuck
08-28-2006, 06:01 PM
Hard to believe no one mentioned my guy

HERBERT PERRY
:gulp:

slobes
08-28-2006, 06:10 PM
Norton you're the greatest.

I thought that Timo was pretty awesome as well.

MrRoboto83
08-28-2006, 06:15 PM
Jeff Abbott, Jeff Liefer and Ross Gload

gobears1987
08-28-2006, 06:56 PM
Has to be Timo.

Everytime I went to a game, he came up clutch.

I was there for that amazing 2 out, 2 strike bloop single to left against the Angels on Memorial Day to win it in the bottom of the 9th.

At another game, I also witnessed a perfect bunt with the bases loaded where everyone ended up being safe. During that same game, he hit the only HR in the game. (Not that it mattered, Sox won 8-0)

doctorlecter
08-28-2006, 07:01 PM
He's such a handsome devil, too...
Career OBP .289
Career SLG .383
The Ossifer!

ode to veeck
08-28-2006, 07:05 PM
Juan Pizzaro
Moose Skowren
Smokey Burgess, the PH king
Nordhagen
Graffanino

Mr. White Sox
08-28-2006, 07:09 PM
-Jeff Liefer

buehrle4cy05
08-28-2006, 07:34 PM
1. Tony G
2. Pablo Ozuna
3. Greg Norton
4. Brian Daubach
5. Timo Perez (The inspiration for THOMO)

chisoxfanatic
08-28-2006, 09:09 PM
I really liked Chris Snopek...ask itsnotrequired! :cool:

Madvora
08-28-2006, 09:12 PM
Jerry Hairston or the Deacon (Warren Newsom).
Newson

BA: The Hitman
08-28-2006, 09:14 PM
-Mike Caruso for that game winning homer against the cubs

-And of course Willie Harris for the single and eventually scoring the winning run in game 4 last year.

tony1972
08-28-2006, 09:14 PM
Lance Johnson (One Dog)...Dan Pasqua.....Ron Karkovice..

Mike Sirotka was one of my favorite pitchers (although he wasn't a scub)..

Ivan Calderon...Carlos Lee (not necessarily a scrub)..

Alex Fernandez, Wilson Alvarez...

Actually none of these players were..but they were not particularly fan favorites..just some of the ones I enjoyed watching play..

viagracat
08-28-2006, 09:17 PM
Juan Pizzaro
Moose Skowren
Smokey Burgess, the PH king
Nordhagen
Graffanino

Ah yes; remember him well. :smile:

Lip Man 1
08-28-2006, 10:32 PM
Excuse me Pizarro was no scrub....19 game winner, All Star pitcher, author of a one hitter with the Sox....scrub???

Me thinks we need to define 'scrub' a wee bit better.

Lip

RowanDye
08-28-2006, 11:01 PM
Not really a favorite...but Sammy Sosa. :D:

Deebs14
08-28-2006, 11:09 PM
Hard to believe no one mentioned my guy

HERBERT PERRY
:gulp:

One of my favorites as well...I believe Hawk always referred to him as Hoss.

Norton (one of the hottest hitters this month), Jeff Abbott, and CJ were also the **** too.

rwcescato
08-28-2006, 11:15 PM
I've always been a huge fan of Sox bench players.

My #1...

Mike Huff

I will take Jim Breazele. he was the slowest amn on the planet and I believe he played in 1979. Only the old timers woul remember him on this board.
Rich

rwcescato
08-28-2006, 11:18 PM
John Cangelosi...being 6 and seeing him hustle really sticks in my memory

His kid goes to school with my niece. Seeing that the last names are both in the C's they should get to know each other very well.

102605
08-28-2006, 11:39 PM
Pablo Ozuna

CHISOXFAN13
08-29-2006, 12:11 AM
Jerry Hairston or the Deacon (Warren Newsom). Ellis Burks was okay too.

Ellis Burks hit .275 with 17 homers and 74 RBI in his one season with the Sox. Hardly a scrub.

ode to veeck
08-29-2006, 12:52 AM
Excuse me Pizarro was no scrub....19 game winner, All Star pitcher, author of a one hitter with the Sox....scrub???

Me thinks we need to define 'scrub' a wee bit better.

Lip

I was thinking of his later years, after his big season in '64, when he got much less time on the mound used mostly in relief from '66. I like the the game he pitched for the Cubs, outdueling Seaver on the Mets and hitting the HR for a 1-0 win.

IJay22
08-29-2006, 02:29 AM
Paco Martin was one of my favorites, I remember when he started wearing the protective piece on his batting helmet after getting hit in the head with a pitch.
http://baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/norberto_martin_autograph.jpg

I always liked "Crazy" Tony Phillips and Lyle Mouton as well.

roylestillman
08-29-2006, 08:48 AM
John Cangelosi and Craig Grebeck are on my list but in my mind's eye I can't picture who's who.

Wayne Nordhagen also makes my list. He had an essential trait about being a scrub - whining about not starting.

Currently, I always look forward to G-Load.

MVP
08-29-2006, 12:21 PM
Scott Fletcher
Dave Gallagher
Ron Kittle- I know he won the '83 rookie of the year, but he was still a bit of a scrub in the years that followed.

AaronRowandFan33
08-29-2006, 12:28 PM
Hebert Perry
Donnie Hill
Fred Manrique
Carlos Martinez
Lyle Mouton
D'Angelo Jimenez

tick53
08-29-2006, 04:00 PM
Charles Johnson, he was a grinder before grinder was cool.

True enough, Charles was a grinder, but a friend of mine whose dad used to coach Mike Sirotka told me when the team dumped Brook Fordyce in 2000 and picked Charles up, the team chemistry went south. Brook was a helluva clubhouse guy whose presence may have led the Sox deeper into the playoffs. It was said the whole teams attitude was different after Brook left.

tick53
08-29-2006, 04:02 PM
Jeff Abbott. I really think the guy needed more at bats.