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wilburaga
08-23-2006, 09:18 AM
I'm not conceding the division, not raising the White Flag, nor playing for the Wild Card only. But I am a realist. If we don't win these last two games versus the Tigers, I'm afraid I'll have to consider cheering for the Tigers in their four remaining games versus the Twinkies.

This squad showed last year that it can play desultory baseball for a pronounced stretch, then suddenly turn it around and steamroll the opposition. I hope that's what's going to happen now. But if there isn't a significant turn of events by September 7th, I'm probably going to hold my nose and cheer for the Tigers vs. Minny.

Being a lifelong Yankee hater from the NYC area, I see Armageddon approaching. If we are the Wild Card team, it's a virtual certainty that we'll play the Yankees in the first round. That is a confrontation for which I will require strong medication.


W

viagracat
08-23-2006, 09:28 AM
Gotta pull for Detroit, especially if the Sox don't win the next two games. The Twins are a much bigger competitor to the Sox's playoff hopes right now than anybody else. Of course, the Sox have to start playing a lot better in this last month of the season or so or it won't matter, but I have every reason to think they will.

And screw the Yankees. The Sox match up against them and even if they don't, they won't be intimidated.

balke
08-23-2006, 09:38 AM
I don't think we need Detroit's help to have a better record than Minnesota.

The Sox need to be 4-6 back by the end of August for a shot of the division. They will have cut that 10 game back deficit in half, and will put themselves in position to apply pressure on Detroit down the stretch (Much like Cleveland did us last season).

I'm a little worried about the Sox not having a tiebreaker against a team like Minnesota. I think by seasons end it could easily be a 2 game difference in the Central, and possibly a tie for the lead. We won't know til then.

spiffie
08-23-2006, 09:40 AM
We're 7.5 back. Sure we can win the division still, but at this point I'd rather be 8 behind in the division and 5 up in the wild card than 4 back in the division and tied for the wild card. All that matters is getting to the postseason. Once we're there, then it's still all about winning 11 games. So for me, I say get rid of Minnesota, and if that means Detroit sweeping them, so be it.

sox1970
08-23-2006, 09:44 AM
Of course you have to hope Detroit wins those games. I mean get real.

MarySwiss
08-23-2006, 09:48 AM
Depends on who's where at that point. I plan to make that decision on Sept. 7th.

jenn2080
08-23-2006, 09:54 AM
I want the Sox to win. At this point I could give two ****s about Minn or Detroit, the Red Sox or the Yankees. Just the White Sox.

soxinem1
08-23-2006, 10:10 AM
Reality check....

As it stands, you'd have to root for the Tigers in all of them.

But if the Sox do not win their games, it may not matter........

Don't count out the BoSox just yet.

PKalltheway
08-23-2006, 10:16 AM
The Sox have to win first. Once they do that, I'll be pulling for Detroit in that series. Either way you slice it, Detroit's going to the playoffs, by Wild Card or by Division Title.

viagracat
08-23-2006, 10:20 AM
Reality check....

As it stands, you'd have to root for the Tigers in all of them.

But if the Sox do not win their games, it may not matter........

Don't count out the BoSox just yet.

See the thread in Talking Baseball about Manny Ramirez. Sounds like the wheels have totally fallen off the cart over there. Good news for the White Sox.

jenn2080
08-23-2006, 10:34 AM
See the thread in Talking Baseball about Manny Ramirez. Sounds like the wheels have totally fallen off the cart over there. Good news for the White Sox.


ya well we thought the wheels were coming off of the Tigers too being on a 5 game losing streak and that went real well.

gobears1987
08-23-2006, 10:42 AM
Detroit. Let's face it, the WC is our best shot now.

viagracat
08-23-2006, 10:47 AM
ya well we thought the wheels were coming off of the Tigers too being on a 5 game losing streak and that went real well.

Yeah, but there seem to be some real no-**** issues right now with the Red Sox. I don't know if Francona is losing his team, but there's way too much drama right now for a team hoping to make the playoffs. Detroit had a rough patch, but I didn't hear anything about serious discord, and I think under a guy like Leyland those things are unlikely to happen anyway.

Chicken Dinner
08-23-2006, 10:49 AM
Like rooting for either one is going to help us win games.

Tiger23
08-23-2006, 11:10 AM
Like rooting for either one is going to help us win games.

I'm sorry, but I hate posts like this. Why even be a fan? Everyone knows they have no effect on the outcome. Its still fun to be a part of it by choosing sides.

kobo
08-23-2006, 11:26 AM
I want the Sox to win. At this point I could give two ****s about Minn or Detroit, the Red Sox or the Yankees. Just the White Sox.
Winner! I feel the same way.

MarySwiss
08-23-2006, 11:27 AM
I'm sorry, but I hate posts like this. Why even be a fan? Everyone knows they have no effect on the outcome. Its still fun to be a part of it by choosing sides.
Sorry Tiger23, but I have to disagree with you. Yes, I'm a fan. A White Sox fan. Period. They only way I will cheer for a rival is if it affects the White Sox, which is why I'm waiting to see what's what at that point. If the outcome of that series were to have no effect on the Sox--and unfortunately I can't see how that could possibly be the case here--then I wouldn't give a damn what happened.

soxinem1
08-23-2006, 11:54 AM
See the thread in Talking Baseball about Manny Ramirez. Sounds like the wheels have totally fallen off the cart over there. Good news for the White Sox.

I saw it. Manny has been a prick since he came to the ML. Like the Yankees, the Red Sox function well with some controversy. All I said was do not count them out, and realistically, you cannot.

Last year after we eliminated Boston, Manny was telling his frinds and anyone who would listen he would like to play for the White Sox. Every year since he signed with Boston, he has chirped about wanting to be traded, the managers, players, fans. All I know is every time he comes to the plate they cheer him like no tomorrow in Fenway. It was the same when he was with the Indians.

Quite frankly, I'll take him in LF right now................. jerk or no jerk.

The record speaks for itself. Temas Manny plays for contend, and win.

jenn2080
08-23-2006, 11:59 AM
I saw it. Manny has been a prick since he came to the ML. Like the Yankees, the Red Sox function well with some controversy. All I said was do not count them out, and realistically, you cannot.

Last year after we eliminated Boston, Manny was telling his frinds and anyone who would listen he would like to play for the White Sox. Every year since he signed with Boston, he has chirped about wanting to be traded, the managers, players, fans. All I know is every time he comes to the plate they cheer him like no tomorrow in Fenway. It was the same when he was with the Indians.

Quite frankly, I'll take him in LF right now................. jerk or no jerk.

The record speaks for itself. Temas Manny plays for contend, and win.


Sign him up. I d welcome him with open arms instead of Pods and I dont even like the guy

areilly
08-23-2006, 12:01 PM
I want the Sox to win. At this point I could give two ****s about Minn or Detroit, the Red Sox or the Yankees. Just the White Sox.

I couldn't agree more, and it saddens me that the rest of this season could very well depend more on other teams losing than it does on this team winning.

jenn2080
08-23-2006, 12:01 PM
I'm sorry, but I hate posts like this. Why even be a fan? Everyone knows they have no effect on the outcome. Its still fun to be a part of it by choosing sides.

Tigs it is a no brainer. No one is going out and buying Minnesota or Tigers gear to root for either team. Lets not take cheer out of context. After the 3 games we obviously wont be rooting for TIgers to beat Minn or vice versa. Focus on the big picture.

JB98
08-23-2006, 12:59 PM
Depends on who's where at that point. I plan to make that decision on Sept. 7th.

I agree. If we can pull within three or four games of Detroit by Sept. 7, I'm cheering for the Twins. If we are still seven or eight out and desperate to secure the wild card on Sept. 7, I'm cheering for the Tigers.

Too early to make that decision.

sox1970
08-23-2006, 01:12 PM
I agree. If we can pull within three or four games of Detroit by Sept. 7, I'm cheering for the Twins. If we are still seven or eight out and desperate to secure the wild card on Sept. 7, I'm cheering for the Tigers.

Too early to make that decision.

I say you root for the team that helps your magic number to clinch a playoff spot get closer to zero. It's a no brainer you'd rather see the Tigers beat the Twins at this stage in the game.

MarySwiss
08-23-2006, 01:25 PM
I say you root for the team that helps your magic number to clinch a playoff spot get closer to zero. It's a no brainer you'd rather see the Tigers beat the Twins at this stage in the game.

At this stage of the game--August 23rd--I'd rather see the Sox beat the Tigers. Twice. Then the Twins. Three times. After that, I want to see the Tigers and the Twins lose as many as possible while we continue to win the majority of our games. Sept. 7 is more than two weeks away, and a lot can change in two weeks. Hell, it's even possible--although very unlikely--that by that time, the Twins could be ahead of the Tigers.

BNLSox
08-23-2006, 01:42 PM
im cheering for long long extra inning games - with everyone on the roster being used.

Tiger23
08-23-2006, 01:56 PM
Sorry Tiger23, but I have to disagree with you. Yes, I'm a fan. A White Sox fan. Period. They only way I will cheer for a rival is if it affects the White Sox, which is why I'm waiting to see what's what at that point. If the outcome of that series were to have no effect on the Sox--and unfortunately I can't see how that could possibly be the case here--then I wouldn't give a damn what happened.

Good post Mary. However, I simply hate the "it has no effect on the outcome so why pick any team" posts that someone on every message board needs feels the need to put in every thread similar to this. Everyone knows we don't effect the outcome. That doesn't take the fun out of it for me though.

jenn2080
08-23-2006, 02:09 PM
Good post Mary. However, I simply hate the "it has no effect on the outcome so why pick any team" posts that someone on every message board needs feels the need to put in every thread similar to this. Everyone knows we don't effect the outcome. That doesn't take the fun out of it for me though.

so you cheer for your team of choice which has no impact on the outcome either. so your answer kind of makes no sense.

Tiger23
08-23-2006, 07:32 PM
so you cheer for your team of choice which has no impact on the outcome either. so your answer kind of makes no sense.

I'm saying we all cheer for a team even though we know that it has no impact. It doesn't need to be stated.

MarySwiss
08-23-2006, 07:47 PM
I'm saying we all cheer for a team even though we know that it has no impact. It doesn't need to be stated.

And I am disagreeing. I believe that the Sox are affected by us cheering for them. We feel close to our players, and they know it. If the Tigers aren't, well, that's kinda your problem, isn't it?

Brian26
08-23-2006, 08:06 PM
To answer the original question, you have to cheer for Detroit. The Sox are much closer to losing the wild card lead than gaining the division lead.

dcb56
08-23-2006, 09:04 PM
This thread is a bit premature, isn't it? I'm going to wait and see how things shake out and what the standings look like in a couple weeks before I decide who I want to win those games.

Tiger23
08-24-2006, 07:33 AM
And I am disagreeing. I believe that the Sox are affected by us cheering for them. We feel close to our players, and they know it. If the Tigers aren't, well, that's kinda your problem, isn't it?

Thats a fine opinion to have. And I do believe that teams are affected by the energy a large crowd feeds them. However, I also believe that none of my individual acts as a fan can help the Tigers win any games. It still doesn't take anything away from my enjoyment as a fan. Is that bad? I don't think so, but that is just my opinion.

areilly
08-24-2006, 11:59 AM
To answer the original question, you have to cheer for Detroit. The Sox are much closer to losing the wild card lead than gaining the division lead.

True, but I wouldn't mind the Kittens heading into the postseason in the midst of an awful tailspin. In the playoffs, who wins is just as much a matter of who's playing hot as it is who's the best team. Anything going against other AL teams is fine by me.

balke
08-24-2006, 03:45 PM
I find it hilarious that the same fans who were wetting themselves last season because the Indians got within 6 games of the Sox, would play now for the wildcard when the Sox are 5.5 back.

soxwon
08-24-2006, 05:43 PM
If the sox are 3-1/2 or less out at that time
Root for minnesota
Dont be an idiot and root for the tigers
we want the division not the wC

id love to see detroit not even make the playoffs.