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Baby Fisk
08-21-2006, 10:25 AM
...through the eyes of the Detroit Free Press: linky (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060821/SPORTS02/608210379/1048/SPORTS)

0o0o0
08-21-2006, 10:32 AM
Is the link not working for anyone else? :dunno:

rdwj
08-21-2006, 10:34 AM
Sounds like an article that we were reading last year

Madvora
08-21-2006, 10:39 AM
The link works fine for me.

I like the feeling of having Detroit starting to feel some pressure. Having their lead remain at 5.5 after two poor series performance by the Sox is making me feel a whole lot better. This could be the defining moment of the season.

batmanZoSo
08-21-2006, 10:41 AM
I think this is going to be the series of the year. I think either we leave town being right there with Detroit for the Division or we start aiming at the wild card. I don't see any kind of split happening. One of these two teams will make a move.

Tiger23
08-21-2006, 11:18 AM
The link works fine for me.

I like the feeling of having Detroit starting to feel some pressure. Having their lead remain at 5.5 after two poor series performance by the Sox is making me feel a whole lot better. This could be the defining moment of the season.

Ironically, the 5.5 game lead after a string of poor performances by the Tigers has made me feel much better.

credefan24
08-21-2006, 11:24 AM
Hey, I think it would be great if the Tigers won the Wild Card. It would be a great accomplishment for them!
As for now, step aside Kittens, the World CHamps are visiting, and are aching to put a beatdown on Motown!

MadetoOrta
08-21-2006, 11:27 AM
Ironically, the 5.5 game lead after a string of poor performances by the Tigers has made me feel much better.

It should. I'd be feeling much better with a 5.5 game lead. What the Tigers are going through is eerily similar to the Sox last year. The Tigers will be in the playoffs in the end. The question remaining is whether the Sox or Twins will be the WC. Should make for some conflicted fans in September when the Tigers face the Twins. Frankly, the Sox need to get in and hope to steal some wins from the NYY in the ALDS. I'll take our chances in a 7 game series vs. the Tigers in the ALCS. Now, ,,,, about Da Bears and the Lions. LOL

MrRoboto83
08-21-2006, 11:37 AM
Ironically, the 5.5 game lead after a string of poor performances by the Tigers has made me feel much better.

Last year at this exact day, the Sox had a 8.5 game lead on Cleveland and we saw that dissapear. There is a lot of baseball left to be played, should be interesting.

voodoochile
08-21-2006, 11:38 AM
It should. I'd be feeling much better with a 5.5 game lead. What the Tigers are going through is eerily similar to the Sox last year. The Tigers will be in the playoffs in the end. The question remaining is whether the Sox or Twins will be the WC. Should make for some conflicted fans in September when the Tigers face the Twins. Frankly, the Sox need to get in and hope to steal some wins from the NYY in the ALDS. I'll take our chances in a 7 game series vs. the Tigers in the ALCS. Now, ,,,, about Da Bears and the Lions. LOL

Tough post to make going into a series that could decide who wins the division.

Sox get at least 3 wins and things are going to get tight in Detroit.

MadetoOrta
08-21-2006, 11:43 AM
Tough post to make going into a series that could decide who wins the division.

Sox get at least 3 wins and things are going to get tight in Detroit.

No one would be happier than me. I'm just not convinced our guys have it. There's something missing. Barely splitting with the Royals and getting Boof Bonzered at Minne has me sour I guess. If we're 3.5 out of first and 2 up in the Wild Card in mid-September when the Tigers play Minnesota, who do you root for? I'm hoping to get into the playoffs and hope Jose, Mark and Gar can put something together. Like we were last year, Detroit seems to bounce back just when they need to. [Winning in Boston, e.g.] All we can do is see what happens.

Madvora
08-21-2006, 11:49 AM
If we're 3.5 out of first and 2 up in the Wild Card in mid-September when the Tigers play Minnesota, who do you root for?
Rooting for someone is not going to make a difference. The good thing about a series like that is that if the Sox win their own games, they are guaranteed to gain ground on somebody.

russ99
08-21-2006, 11:51 AM
The link works fine for me.

I like the feeling of having Detroit starting to feel some pressure. Having their lead remain at 5.5 after two poor series performance by the Sox is making me feel a whole lot better. This could be the defining moment of the season.

This should be a great final month of baseball. If the Sox can somehow sweep the Tigers, I wouldn't even count out the Twins from having a shot at the division.

The first game is key. I like our chances with Contreras, but I expect Verlander to be a bit tougher than last time. Garcia had better be prepared for his start in Detroit. We need a lot better from him than we're getting.

FielderJones
08-21-2006, 12:19 PM
Baseball Prospectus, a Web site devoted to questions like whether a city with a hot baseball team is likely to experience global warming, recently ran a computer model of the rest of this baseball season a million times. The results were shocking. As it turns out, the computer is owned by ESPN and refused to play any games that didn't involve the Yankees or Red Sox.

No, I made that up. But this much is true:


In those million seasons, the Tigers won their division 89% of the time and made the playoffs an astounding 98% of the time.

:kneeslap:

Someone should let that guy know that BP percentages don't reflect reality.

viagracat
08-21-2006, 12:21 PM
Yeah, if there's ever a time for Garcia to get his head out of his ass, it's now.

soxinem1
08-21-2006, 12:35 PM
Yeah, if there's ever a time for Garcia to get his head out of his ass, it's now.

And Vasquez. And Buerhle. And Cotts. And Uribe. And Podsednik.

CaptainBallz
08-21-2006, 01:33 PM
:kneeslap:

Someone should let that guy know that BP percentages don't reflect reality.

Isn't this the same publication that still has the Sox with a 20% chance of losing last years World Series?

Ol' No. 2
08-21-2006, 02:27 PM
And Vasquez. And Buerhle. And Cotts. And Uribe. And Podsednik.They can live with sub-par performances by position players. With the sole exception of Jon Garland, the starting rotation has been consistently inconsistent. They have one good start, but a poor one the next time out. How long have we been waiting for the Tigers to hit their rough patch? They finally did and the Sox can't even beat Runny Hernandez and what's-his-name. The baseball gods only grant you so many opportunities, and this last week with the Tigers going 3-4 was as good an opportunity to gain ground as you can expect to get. They missed it.

At the present rate it's going to take a Detroit implosion for them not to win the division, and even if that happens, the Sox don't look capable of staying ahead of the Twinks. And even if they manage to limp into the playoffs, an inconsistent starting rotation is a sure ticket to a short post-season.

Trying to find a reason to stay optimistic, but this last week has made it a lot harder.

batmanZoSo
08-21-2006, 02:44 PM
They can live with sub-par performances by position players. With the sole exception of Jon Garland, the starting rotation has been consistently inconsistent. They have one good start, but a poor one the next time out. How long have we been waiting for the Tigers to hit their rough patch? They finally did and the Sox can't even beat Runny Hernandez and what's-his-name. The baseball gods only grant you so many opportunities, and this last week with the Tigers going 3-4 was as good an opportunity to gain ground as you can expect to get. They missed it.

At the present rate it's going to take a Detroit implosion for them not to win the division, and even if that happens, the Sox don't look capable of staying ahead of the Twinks. And even if they manage to limp into the playoffs, an inconsistent starting rotation is a sure ticket to a short post-season.

Trying to find a reason to stay optimistic, but this last week has made it a lot harder.

The reason to stay optimistic is that we're right there in the playoff picture, 1st place or not, and what happens in August means nothing. It's all about who's hot in October. And if the Sox go in hot enough, they won't be beat.

PorkChopExpress
08-21-2006, 02:49 PM
How long have we been waiting for the Tigers to hit their rough patch? They finally did and the Sox can't even beat Runny Hernandez and what's-his-name. The baseball gods only grant you so many opportunities, and this last week with the Tigers going 3-4 was as good an opportunity to gain ground as you can expect to get. They missed it.

Unfortunately I was thinking the same thing. I for one was not glad to be going to Detroit with the same 5.5 games back defecit we had right after we swept them. They have been playing poor lately and we were unable to take advantage of it (minus our sweep).

At the present rate it's going to take a Detroit implosion for them not to win the division,

Look out for the Twins.

caulfield12
08-21-2006, 02:55 PM
The Twins would definitely seem to have the most favorable schedule, and it looks like they will now get a boost from Liriano's return in mid-September.

If the White Sox go 5-2 this week, then I think they're going to make it. 3-4 or worse and the odds get increasingly more difficult.

In theory, we should match up favorably and Minnesota has to use their 3/4/5 guys at Baltimore. But we proved that we could lose to Hernandez, Bernero AND Hudson in the span of two weeks.

On the bright side, Boston seems to have completely collapsed, so our odds have increased from 33% to 50/50, and there's always that possibility that both Chicago AND Minnesota could chase down the Tigers, despite what BP predicts in their computer prognostications (the same ones that would predict Koronko versus Bonderman would always end up in a loss for TEX).

BadBobbyJenks
08-21-2006, 02:59 PM
It should. I'd be feeling much better with a 5.5 game lead. What the Tigers are going through is eerily similar to the Sox last year. The Tigers will be in the playoffs in the end. The question remaining is whether the Sox or Twins will be the WC. Should make for some conflicted fans in September when the Tigers face the Twins. Frankly, the Sox need to get in and hope to steal some wins from the NYY in the ALDS. I'll take our chances in a 7 game series vs. the Tigers in the ALCS. Now, ,,,, about Da Bears and the Lions. LOL




Yeah my thoughts exactly, hopefully we can sneak into the playoffs and steal a few wins from the yanks...........:rolleyes:

34 Inch Stick
08-21-2006, 03:06 PM
They can live with sub-par performances by position players. With the sole exception of Jon Garland, the starting rotation has been consistently inconsistent. They have one good start, but a poor one the next time out. How long have we been waiting for the Tigers to hit their rough patch? They finally did and the Sox can't even beat Runny Hernandez and what's-his-name. The baseball gods only grant you so many opportunities, and this last week with the Tigers going 3-4 was as good an opportunity to gain ground as you can expect to get. They missed it.

At the present rate it's going to take a Detroit implosion for them not to win the division, and even if that happens, the Sox don't look capable of staying ahead of the Twinks. And even if they manage to limp into the playoffs, an inconsistent starting rotation is a sure ticket to a short post-season.

Trying to find a reason to stay optimistic, but this last week has made it a lot harder.

You saw the Dr. Jekyl Twins this weekend. When they go on the road, I fully expect to see Mr. Hyde. Sure we lost a game on them this weekend. However, we picked two up on them during the preceeding week.

Paulwny
08-21-2006, 03:11 PM
Geez, what happened to all the talk about last yr ? The tribe made up this much ground last yr and we can..... blah and blah and blah.
Reality is finally sinking in, last yr was last yr , a great memory and has nothing to do with this yr. The sox can still catch Det, it won't be easy, so let's stop the, but last yr. talk.
GO GET'EM SOX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tiger23
08-21-2006, 03:18 PM
Last year at this exact day, the Sox had a 8.5 game lead on Cleveland and we saw that dissapear. There is a lot of baseball left to be played, should be interesting.

I'm not saying it is safe in any way shape or form. Just comforting that the team isn't in a worse position than it could, and maybe even should be with their recent play.

Chicken Dinner
08-21-2006, 03:29 PM
The Twins biggest advantage is that pile of crap they call a stadium. No one can play good is that POS. Bring the Twins to a real park and watch them fold.

Ol' No. 2
08-21-2006, 03:29 PM
Geez, what happened to all the talk about last yr ? The tribe made up this much ground last yr and we can..... blah and blah and blah.
Reality is finally sinking in, last yr was last yr , a great memory and has nothing to do with this yr. The sox can still catch Det, it won't be easy, so let's stop the, but last yr. talk.
GO GET'EM SOX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comparisons with last year just illustrate that teams can and do blow big leads late in the season. Of course, any student of the game already knows that. It doesn't mean it will or won't happen this year. But even if the Tigers implode, right now the Sox don't look like they can take advantage. They sure missed a golden opportunity in the last week in which they should have gained AT LEAST one game, if not two. If you want to make a run, the first thing you need is consistent starting pitching and the Sox haven't had that all year save for the first month of the season. And that definately doesn't cut it in the playoffs.

Paulwny
08-21-2006, 03:32 PM
Comparisons with last year just illustrate that teams can and do blow big leads late in the season. Of course, any student of the game already knows that. It doesn't mean it will or won't happen this year. But even if the Tigers implode, right now the Sox don't look like they can take advantage. They sure missed a golden opportunity in the last week in which they should have gained AT LEAST one game, if not two. If you want to make a run, the first thing you need is consistent starting pitching and the Sox haven't had that all year save for the first month of the season. And that definately doesn't cut it in the playoffs.

Yep, totally agree, and the Twins really scare me.

Deuce
08-21-2006, 03:51 PM
If we're 3.5 out of first and 2 up in the Wild Card in mid-September when the Tigers play Minnesota, who do you root for?I'll be rooting for the White Sox. If they win, things look brighter. If they lose, who cares what Minni or Detroit do? Our destiny is still in our hands.

PKalltheway
08-21-2006, 04:07 PM
Aaaarrggghhh, I HATE the ****ing Twins!!! I wish they would go on a 12 game losing streak and fall out of contention! It would make things easier on the Sox to catch Detroit without having to worry about the ****ing Twins! It makes me soooo mad how they made their way back into contention!

Whitesox029
08-21-2006, 06:24 PM
No one would be happier than me. I'm just not convinced our guys have it. There's something missing. Barely splitting with the Royals and getting Boof Bonzered at Minne has me sour I guess. If we're 3.5 out of first and 2 up in the Wild Card in mid-September when the Tigers play Minnesota, who do you root for? I'm hoping to get into the playoffs and hope Jose, Mark and Gar can put something together. Like we were last year, Detroit seems to bounce back just when they need to. [Winning in Boston, e.g.] All we can do is see what happens.
As to whom to root for, that's easy: the Sox!

Really, if that's the case when the Tigers and Twins play in September, as long as we win, it doesn't matter who wins that series. The Twins and Tigers play Sept 7-10. On those same days, we have a 4-game series at home against Cleveland. If we sweep that series, it really doesn't matter whether the Tigers or Twins win. At that point, I probably wouldn't even pay any mind to the Tigers-Twins games.

miker
08-21-2006, 07:40 PM
I thought the Tigers were invincible...when we were 10 games out! :cool:

Go get 'em White Sox!

soxinem1
08-22-2006, 05:31 PM
I'll be rooting for the White Sox. If they win, things look brighter. If they lose, who cares what Minni or Detroit do? Our destiny is still in our hands.

30 games ago, yes. Now, they do not control anything, they need to win the head-to-head matchups and start playing with more consistency.