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Baby Fisk
08-17-2006, 01:41 PM
It's official. Former ROY Eric Hinske dealt to Boston for a to-be-determined cash amount or player-to-be-named: linky (http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060817&content_id=1614776&vkey=news_tor&fext=.jsp&c_id=tor)

Dan Mega
08-17-2006, 01:50 PM
I always thought Hinske could develop into a really good player after he won the ROY in 2002 and decreased his K's. All of his numbers seem to go down after that. Perhaps the change in scenery will help.

Flight #24
08-17-2006, 01:53 PM
Not bad, I'd assume it's either a low-level prospect or the cash. So for flexing their financial muscle, they get a decent backup who can swing between 1B/3B/RF. Nothing significant, but a solid minor move if you can ignore the financials, which they can.

MUsoxfan
08-17-2006, 02:19 PM
The Jays must be really really really down on him if they're shipping him off to a main division rival for table scraps

Baby Fisk
08-17-2006, 02:29 PM
The Jays must be really really really down on him if they're shipping him off to a main division rival for table scraps
Hinske will be a very useful backup in Beantown, as long as he accepts that as his destiny. He wasn't cutting it as a starter in Toronto. When Hinske failed to become an all-out star after his ROY season, and his numbers declined, Toronto's frontrunning fans soured on him quickly. It's ironic because this year he seemed to be bouncing back, making clutch hits, showing some ability at more than one position, etc. Then, WHAM! The Jays just let him go.

Over on the Jays board, opinion seems to be split between people who are wishing Hinske good riddance, and people who are screaming that the Red Sox just made off like thieves.

CashMan
08-17-2006, 03:43 PM
Maybe he stopped taking the Roids? He did decrease in overall size from his Rookie year to his 2nd year in the majors!

SpartanSoxFan
08-17-2006, 07:59 PM
I just LOVE how the AL East bottom feeders are trying their damndest to make sure the BlowSox make the playoffs this year. How irritating...:angry:

DSpivack
08-17-2006, 08:56 PM
I just LOVE how the AL East bottom feeders are trying their damndest to make sure the BlowSox make the playoffs this year. How irritating...:angry:

The Jays have Overbay at 1B, Glaus at 3B, they are pretty crowded in the outfield as it is, and Hinske isn't much of an OF. He's decent but not great, it's a nice bench addition but it won't mean that much to Boston, with Youkilis and Lowell. Baltimore and Tampa may be "bottom feeders", but Toronto is pretty competitive.

Chez
08-18-2006, 08:36 AM
If I was a Jays fan, I'd be pissed. Regardless of what you think of Hinske as a player, why would you trade him to a division/wildcard rival and get nothing back to help your roster this season? Would the Sox trade Ross Gload to the Twins or Red Sox without getting something back for the stretch run? The Blue Jays front office must be waving the white flag for the season.

BNLSox
08-18-2006, 09:57 AM
If I was a Jays fan, I'd be pissed. Regardless of what you think of Hinske as a player, why would you trade him to a division/wildcard rival and get nothing back to help your roster this season? Would the Sox trade Ross Gload to the Twins or Red Sox without getting something back for the stretch run? The Blue Jays front office must be waving the white flag for the season.

I've thought that several times of this team but they still haven't quite disappeared. It looks like a having their cake and eating it too scenario.

Paulwny
08-18-2006, 10:00 AM
Good move by the Jays and nice pick-up by Boston.
The Jays get rid of a non-starter and save $3.9 mil, this year is gone , more money for fa's or resigning players next year.

Madvora
08-18-2006, 10:11 AM
The Jays must be really really really down on him if they're shipping him off to a main division rival for table scraps
Yeah, no kidding. Why would you even think of resupplying a rival in your division especially since your "mathmatically" still in the race?

Paulwny
08-18-2006, 10:27 AM
Yeah, no kidding. Why would you even think of resupplying a rival in your division especially since your "mathmatically" still in the race?

Boston was probably the only team willing to take Hinske. The guy is a non- stater who will earn $ 5.6 mil next year. What's so hard to understand ? It was a salary dump by the Jays, and they know their out of the race.

Madvora
08-18-2006, 10:43 AM
Boston was probably the only team willing to take Hinske. The guy is a non- stater who will earn $ 5.6 mil next year. What's so hard to understand ? It was a salary dump by the Jays, and they know their out of the race.
I just don't like anyone helping out our competition.
You'd think they could at least wait until the off season when 30 teams are actually looking for players.

Paulwny
08-18-2006, 11:02 AM
I just don't like anyone helping out our competition.
You'd think they could at least wait until the off season when 30 teams are actually looking for players.

The Jays were stuck with Hinske and this became the perfect opportunity to dump him and his salary.
I doubt any teams, next year, would be looking to trade for a $5.6 mil bench player.

Flight #24
08-18-2006, 11:05 AM
Boston was probably the only team willing to take Hinske. The guy is a non- stater who will earn $ 5.6 mil next year. What's so hard to understand ? It was a salary dump by the Jays, and they know their out of the race.

I saw a report that the Jays were eating half of his '07 salary. I'd assume that's if they get the PTBNL they like, or otherwise the "cash considerations" coming back would be whatever they sent along in the first place.

If not, that would be weird, trading Hinske & cash for less cash.:?:

viagracat
08-18-2006, 11:08 AM
I just LOVE how the AL East bottom feeders are trying their damndest to make sure the BlowSox make the playoffs this year. How irritating...:angry:

Toronto wasn't a "bottom-feeder"; they were in the thick of it until maybe a couple weeks ago.

Boston HAD to "do something" not just because they're in a pennant race, but also because the often-played out scenario is developing: they're behind the Yankees, and trailing the Evil Empire is absolutely unacceptable around those parts. How many times over the years have the Red Sox been aced out of the postseason by New York? Epstein or some other scapegoat would have been run out of town if the Red Sox didn't do anything and they either missed the playoffs or lost to the Yankees during them. You knew Boston was going to be active. And we have to finish ahead of at least one of those two teams if we don't finish ahead of Detroit.

Bring it on.

Paulwny
08-18-2006, 11:20 AM
I saw a report that the Jays were eating half of his '07 salary. I'd assume that's if they get the PTBNL they like, or otherwise the "cash considerations" coming back would be whatever they sent along in the first place.

If not, that would be weird, trading Hinske & cash for less cash.:?:

I also had read a similar report.
Here's part of an article by Mike Ruisey-- Toronto Sun, Jays' need for $$$


Ricciardi is looking ahead to his 2007 budget and by saving $3.9 million US on Hinske (his remaining $1.1 million for '06 and half of his $5.6 million due in '07), $600,000 on Schoeneweis and close to $2 million when he traded Shea Hillenbrand to San Francisco last month, he believes he has put himself and the Blue Jays in an advantageous position without weakening the guts of the lineup. "Coming into this year, we had $6 million (above and beyond the guaranteed contracts and raises for players they control) we could spend next year. So, by the trades, we're up to about $12.5 for next year," Ricciardi said. "If you want to talk about Vernon (Wells, and a contract extension), we need some money for that. We'd like to bring (Frank) Catalanotto back. We need to fill a need behind the plate so we're still strapped in some cases, but we have to make our money work."

Foulke You
08-18-2006, 11:50 AM
I also had read a similar report.
Here's part of an article by Mike Ruisey-- Toronto Sun, Jays' need for $$$


Ricciardi is looking ahead to his 2007 budget and by saving $3.9 million US on Hinske (his remaining $1.1 million for '06 and half of his $5.6 million due in '07), $600,000 on Schoeneweis and close to $2 million when he traded Shea Hillenbrand to San Francisco last month, he believes he has put himself and the Blue Jays in an advantageous position without weakening the guts of the lineup. "Coming into this year, we had $6 million (above and beyond the guaranteed contracts and raises for players they control) we could spend next year. So, by the trades, we're up to about $12.5 for next year," Ricciardi said. "If you want to talk about Vernon (Wells, and a contract extension), we need some money for that. We'd like to bring (Frank) Catalanotto back. We need to fill a need behind the plate so we're still strapped in some cases, but we have to make our money work."
I think it is a good move based on what you posted above. Vernon Wells is going to command big bucks. Ask Toronto fans who would they rather keep, Vernon Wells or Hinske? I think that is a no brainer. With the money leftover, they also might be able to sign an innings eater back of the rotation starter that they were missing this year.

Flight #24
08-18-2006, 02:24 PM
Hinske starting his Beantown stint with 3 doubles (and counting). So far, a very nice pickup for The Boy Wonder, made possible of course by the financial might of a $120+M payroll.

bigfoot
08-19-2006, 07:48 AM
But can he pitch?!:rolleyes: