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lakeviewsoxfan
08-16-2006, 03:07 PM
I know we would sacrifice speed at the top but Pods just isn't doing enough to warrant and everyday spot in this line-up.

Ol' No. 2
08-16-2006, 03:10 PM
Ted Williams. It's got about as much of a chance of happening as any of those other guys except Podsednik. Get over it already.:deadhorse:

IlliniSox
08-16-2006, 03:12 PM
If by regular basis you mean for the rest of the year, Pods. Next year, an upgrade in LF is top priority. I'm sure KW has known this since Tucson. He's lost a step, but he's miles ahead of the other options.

Justagirl
08-16-2006, 03:13 PM
Fess up, who voted for Macko?

lakeviewsoxfan
08-16-2006, 03:13 PM
Fess up, who voted for Macko?

I did!

Baby Fisk
08-16-2006, 03:34 PM
Joe Jackson may or may not have been spotted hanging out at USCF this week. If we can make amends with Carlton Fisk, let's give Shoeless Joe a ring and a contract!

viagracat
08-16-2006, 03:38 PM
Pods is the only one of the four who can create havoc on the bases. When he's on, he's the classic leadoff man. Waiting for that day to return on a consistent basis...:?:

lakeviewsoxfan
08-16-2006, 03:42 PM
Pods is the only one of the four who can create havoc on the bases. When he's on, he's the classic leadoff man. Waiting for that day to return on a consistent basis...:?:

I think we all are. Thats the problem the last time IIRC he wreaked havoc was Friday agianst the Tigers, b4 that it has been few arnd far between.
I think our success hinges on his as well as the SP performances. You guys think we see Mack tonight??

sox1970
08-16-2006, 03:43 PM
Ryan Sweeney

lakeviewsoxfan
08-16-2006, 03:44 PM
Ryan Sweeney

Think RF in 08

jenn2080
08-16-2006, 03:46 PM
where is the this thread sucks option?


:threadblows:

sox1970
08-16-2006, 03:50 PM
Think RF in 08

It may be left field in 07, then right in 08.

dagotony06
08-16-2006, 03:59 PM
Bobby Abreu. Oh wait the Yankees already got him. We didn't need anything at the trading deadline I forgot.

SCarolina_Ron
08-16-2006, 04:43 PM
Whomever Ozzie thinks is the right guy for that night. I think the idea of the same lineup everyday is way obsolete.

spiffie
08-16-2006, 04:53 PM
Ted Williams. It's got about as much of a chance of happening as any of those other guys except Podsednik. Get over it already.:deadhorse:
Despite having spent a good portion of yesterday arguing with you about Podsednik's value, I can't argue this in the slightest. While he's a position I would look to upgrade this offseason, he is easily the best option we have available to us at this point in time.

kittle42
08-16-2006, 04:54 PM
When your other options are Gload, Mackowiak, and Ozuna, I'll take Podsednik anytime.

JB98
08-16-2006, 05:15 PM
Pods. Any other dumb questions?

Dibbs
08-16-2006, 05:17 PM
This thread is a complete joke...not even vote worthy.

DaleJRFan
08-16-2006, 05:30 PM
Fess up, who voted for Macko?

I did. Better defense, better OBP, better batting average, has good speed, he's just a better baseball player than Pods.

Steelrod
08-16-2006, 05:43 PM
What I want to see is White Sox hit baseballs clearing the left field fence.

cbotnyse
08-16-2006, 05:58 PM
:pods:
:yoohoo:

chisoxfanatic
08-16-2006, 06:25 PM
Pods. Yes, Ozuna made a damn good catch this past Monday; but, I will cringe if I have to see him out there nearly every game. Macko doesn't get good reads on the ball either.

Historia
08-16-2006, 06:30 PM
How about Thome? lol.

chisoxfanatic
08-17-2006, 12:52 AM
How about Thome? lol.

He'd be FAR better than Mackowiak, that's for sure!!! Ozzie needs to send that guy through fielding practice!!!

CHISOXFAN13
08-17-2006, 12:55 AM
He'd be FAR better than Mackowiak, that's for sure!!! Ozzie needs to send that guy through fielding practice!!!

Umm, no. Maybe he should put Mack in a position that he can actually play. He's not a CF, yet he continues to trot him out there on a regular basis.

MrRoboto83
08-17-2006, 12:58 AM
Amazing how now some people want someone else in LF, I guess BA is finally off the hook as our man in center.:smile:

JB98
08-17-2006, 02:03 AM
Amazing how now some people want someone else in LF, I guess BA is finally off the hook as our man in center.:smile:

I still think BA is a lousy hitter. I just became so worn down by Mackowiak's misplays that I had no choice but to join the Anderson bandwagon.

Mack is just fine as a corner outfielder, but I can't see him being the everyday LF. I want to stick with Pods because I think he can change a game with his speed. Mack has a few tools, but he doesn't have any one skill that would be described as game-breaking.

Sox-o-matic
08-17-2006, 04:26 AM
Pods.

Mackowiak doesn't have the discipline to hit lead off, Gload doesn't have the speed and would de a defensive downgrade from Pods, and Ozuna seems to want to be Willie Mays Hayes lately as he keeps swinging for the fences.

Besides, removing anyone from our bench and sitting Pods only weakens our bench. Pods doesn't have the power from the left side that Mack and Gload have and Gload is a better contact hitter, so Pods' role on the bench would be pretty much as a pinch runner. But, right now I'm more confident in Pablo as a pinch runner than Pods, so putting him on the bench pretty much makes him useless.

maurice
08-17-2006, 01:27 PM
Player A: .276 AVE, .726 OPS, 204 SB, 2145 AB.
Player B: .262 AVE, .745 OPS, 45 SB, 1926 AB.

Player A and Player B are very similar offensively, except that Player A has WAY more speed. They both bat lefthanded. They're both terrible CF and mediocre LF. Player A is producing near his career averages, and Player B has been playing over his head until recently (3-for-his-last-15 with 8 Ks).

The Mackowiak voters are calling for the head of Player A and want him replaced with Player B.

Ol' No. 2
08-17-2006, 01:32 PM
Player A: .276 AVE, .726 OPS, 204 SB, 2145 AB.
Player B: .262 AVE, .745 OPS, 45 SB, 1926 AB.

Player A and Player B are very similar offensively, except that Player A has WAY more speed. They both bat lefthanded. They're both terrible CF and mediocre LF. Player A is producing near his career averages, and Player B has been playing over his head until recently (3-for-his-last-15 with 8 Ks).

The Mackowiak voters are calling for the head of Player A and want him replaced with Player B.Logic gets you nowhere when scapegoating is involved.

jenn2080
08-17-2006, 01:33 PM
Player A: .276 AVE, .726 OPS, 204 SB, 2145 AB.
Player B: .262 AVE, .745 OPS, 45 SB, 1926 AB.

Player A and Player B are very similar offensively, except that Player A has WAY more speed. They both bat lefthanded. They're both terrible CF and mediocre LF. Player A is producing near his career averages, and Player B has been playing over his head until recently (3-for-his-last-15 with 8 Ks).

The Mackowiak voters are calling for the head of Player A and want him replaced with Player B.

the mack lovers need to lay off the :bong:
mack shouldnt even be an option.

balz1472
08-17-2006, 01:37 PM
If Pods cannot get on base and steal bases he is WORTHLESS. I think the Playboy wife may have cost him a step or two. He is not even hustling out groundballs any more. That is PISS POOR. I would take Ozuna cause he plays balls-out on every play. His errors are better than Pods doing any of the following:
a. pulling up short on a fly ball (EVERY GAME)
b. not even attempting to throw a runner out at the plate when the runner is just hitting 3B when he picks up the ball (ala J Damon last week)
c. twinkle toes running like he is running on glass whenever there is a fly ball towards the line...

Ok. I've said my two cents.

We should make a strong play at Carl Crawford. Trade the farm KW... it will be worth it.

russ99
08-17-2006, 01:44 PM
If by regular basis you mean for the rest of the year, Pods. Next year, an upgrade in LF is top priority. I'm sure KW has known this since Tucson. He's lost a step, but he's miles ahead of the other options.

Pods is still under Sox control and eligable for arbitration for the next 2 seasons. He'll be cheap to sign and is still the Sox best option at leadoff, unless the Sox go out and break the bank on an FA, which really isn't out there this offseason.

Juan Pierre? Please, what a joke. Carl Crawford is signed cheap in Tampa and won't be going anywhere. Too bad, Pods-haters and/or "fantasy baseball" hacks who can't stand a non-power hitting outfielder - he'll be back in left field next year. :tongue:

I hope he takes the winter off and comes back closer to (if not just like) the Pods of early 2005 before the injury and the two hernia surgeries.

Remember - Scott missed the entire spring training this year, so what we're getting is pretty much to be expected at this point for a player coming into the season still in recovery. I personally think his best baseball is ahead of him for this season.

Frater Perdurabo
08-17-2006, 02:39 PM
Carl Crawford
:supernana:

Harry Chappas
08-17-2006, 04:43 PM
I still think BA is a lousy hitter. I just became so worn down by Mackowiak's misplays that I had no choice but to join the Anderson bandwagon.

Mack is just fine as a corner outfielder, but I can't see him being the everyday LF. I want to stick with Pods because I think he can change a game with his speed. Mack has a few tools, but he doesn't have any one skill that would be described as game-breaking.

I think Pods speed is a little overrated at the moment. I'm not sure if he's lost a step or he's concealing an injury, but he has a hair under 70% success rate. That's not great by any measure.

Personally, I hope KW addresses LF in the off-season because unless Pods is stealing 60 - 70 bases with an average near .300, he's a liability.

MDF3530
08-17-2006, 05:53 PM
I voted for Pods. Mackowiak and Gload are decent backups and Ozuna may as well be holding a cleaver instead of a glove because he's a butcher in the field. He's like Michael Jackson-wears one glove for no reason.

JB98
08-17-2006, 06:00 PM
I still think BA is a lousy hitter. I just became so worn down by Mackowiak's misplays that I had no choice but to join the Anderson bandwagon.

Mack is just fine as a corner outfielder, but I can't see him being the everyday LF. I want to stick with Pods because I think he can change a game with his speed. Mack has a few tools, but he doesn't have any one skill that would be described as game-breaking.

Pods proves my point. His presence on the basepaths spooks the Royals and leads to a important insurance run in the eighth inning of today's game. :supernana:

TomBradley72
08-17-2006, 08:38 PM
Gary Redus

soxinem1
08-17-2006, 09:51 PM
Carl Crawford in 2007. For now, Pods.

Jurr
08-17-2006, 10:13 PM
Wow. In one season, the guy goes from hero (catalyst of the "big change" and WS game 2 wonderboy) to "I'd rather see Rob f'n Mack-o-wack in there".

Meh.

Cuck the Fubs
08-17-2006, 10:16 PM
Out of the listed options, ya gotta roll with Pods.

However over the offseason, I think Mr. Williams needs to address the LF issue.

Of course Scotty could rebound and have a monster 07'

Stay tuned

TomBradley72
08-17-2006, 10:46 PM
Out of the listed options, ya gotta roll with Pods.

However over the offseason, I think Mr. Williams needs to address the LF issue.

Of course Scotty could rebound and have a monster 07'

Stay tuned

Pods was great for the 1st half for 2005 and the 2005 post season.

Mediocre in the 2nd half of 2005 and so far in 2006.

There is no monster season coming from him...and he's begginning to age for a speed guy. We'll need a new LF for 2007. For now...he's our best option in LF.

SouthSide_HitMen
08-18-2006, 01:57 AM
If we can make amends with Carlton Fisk, let's give Shoeless Joe a ring and a contract!

Speaking of Fisk,

:hawk

"He is my choice (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=312565&postcount=1)"

gosox3072
08-18-2006, 02:16 AM
We need a picture for "worst thread ever"

miker
08-18-2006, 12:31 PM
Ted Williams. It's got about as much of a chance of happening as any of those other guys except Podsednik.
Some days, the headless corpse of the Splended Splinter could be considered an upgrade over Scotty.

kitekrazy
08-18-2006, 01:26 PM
Pods was great for the 1st half for 2005 and the 2005 post season.

Mediocre in the 2nd half of 2005 and so far in 2006.

There is no monster season coming from him...and he's begginning to age for a speed guy. We'll need a new LF for 2007. For now...he's our best option in LF.

This is easier said than done.

Trade? What are you willing to give up?
FA? Jerry is not George.

Chisox003
08-18-2006, 01:29 PM
Unless we can pry Crawford away from the Rays (definitely not happening) or Dejesus from the Royals (Definitely not happening either), then I'd be willing to bet Podsednik is our LF/Leadoff man in 2007 too.

If he wasn't hurt at the beginning of the season during Spring Training, his numbers would be a lot better at this point. Which means this thread would probably be non-existant

Ol' No. 2
08-18-2006, 03:27 PM
Unless we can pry Crawford away from the Rays (definitely not happening) or Dejesus from the Royals (Definitely not happening either), then I'd be willing to bet Podsednik is our LF/Leadoff man in 2007 too.

If he wasn't hurt at the beginning of the season during Spring Training, his numbers would be a lot better at this point. Which means this thread would probably be non-existantIf you look around the league at leadoff hitters who are both an improvement over Podsednik and realistically available, it's a pretty short list. Add in that they're going to have to fit him into a position that they will have open (e.g. it doesn't do any good to find one who plays 2B), and the list gets even shorter. I'm sure that Kenny will be looking at upgrades, but it's not a given that he can find one. I'd call it 50/50 that Pods will be leading off next year.

slobes
08-18-2006, 03:31 PM
At the position we're in right now with the players we have, how can you not want to see Podsednik in LF? Sure, he's not exactly gold glove caliber, but neither is Ozuna or Mack. Offensively, on an every day basis, Pods brings more to the table than either of those other guys, too.

nedlug
08-18-2006, 03:34 PM
Ichiro

maurice
08-18-2006, 03:37 PM
It's WAY too early to determine who will be available during the offseason. We had this same argument re. the SS position a few years back. The standard response was that "hardly anybody better than Valentin will be available." Flash forward to the offseason: Half the starting SS in MLB changed teams, including Alex Rodriguez. This was unthinkable only a few months earlier.

Considering the number of people who want to talk about replacing Podsednik (and maybe Uribe) now, imagine what the board will look like during the offseason! OTOH, maybe Podsednik will bat .400 in the 2006 WS, and everybody will love him again.
:cool:

viagracat
08-18-2006, 05:57 PM
If Crede gets locked up, you could--could--see Josh Fields get a tryout in left next year. Supposedly he's been practicing the position.

Sox-o-matic
08-18-2006, 06:16 PM
I'd be happy with any one of these guys:

Chone Figgins
Willy Taveras
Reed Johnson
Alex Rios
Carl Crawford
Grady Sizemore
Ichiro Suzuki
Gary Matthews, Jr.
Coco Crisp
Ryan Freel
David DeJesus

But the problem is it would be difficult to pry any of these guys away from their current teams. Hopefully Pods turns it around because the first half of '05 Pods was probably a better leadoff hitter/base stealer/disruptor than anyone else on this list except for Ichiro.

Chisox003
08-18-2006, 06:23 PM
If Crede gets locked up, you could--could--see Josh Fields get a tryout in left next year. Supposedly he's been practicing the position. Oh ya?

And who leads off?

I agree completely with ON2, the possible replacements who also lead off is a short list, and those that are on the list will be extremely hard to acquire. KW might try, but I'd put my money on Podsednik on Opening Day '07.

But anyway, it's much too early for speculation for NEXT season. He's leading off tonight in Minnesota, let's get it done!

Edit: And Soxomatic, it wouldn't be "hard" to pry most of that list away ... it'd be impossible!

soxinem1
08-19-2006, 11:12 AM
Gary Sheffield? Hmmm.

KW loves veteran players, especially those coming off off years/injuries. Yanks have no room for him and hold a $13 million option for 2007. He'd definitely rather play LF than 1B with the NYY, I'm sure. He sure seems to fit the profile of player KW goes after......

Lead-off hitter, you say? That's part of the Garcia and Uribe for Jimmy Rollins and a minor leaguer deal. Rollins is scheduled to make about $6 million in 2007, Uribe, what $3.5 mil, and Freddy $11 mil.

Paulwny
08-19-2006, 11:33 AM
He'll be the odd man out next year, good/ great arm, looks like an above ave hitter and very inexpensive, my choice--- Melke Cabrera for lf.

wassagstdu
08-19-2006, 01:08 PM
I think the Sox need to ADD some speed on the bases, not substitute for Pods. Where would you add that speed? SS, RF**, 3B** (is there any such thing as a fast 3B?). That of course assumes you would get true value for the current occupants of those positions.

By the way, was it last night that Pods seemed to trot to first base on a DP? He had better tell Ozzie if he is hurting.

* The important word being ON the bases
** Buy low, sell high.
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