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SoxFan78
08-13-2006, 10:57 PM
Anybody at the game today, does anybody know the details on a ball thrown at Brian Anderson before the Top of the ninth? I saw the ball just miss him, and he turned around. And a little later in the inning, I saw somebody get escorted out of the left center seats, but from where I was sitting, I couldnt get any more details.

spiffie
08-13-2006, 11:29 PM
Anybody at the game today, does anybody know the details on a ball thrown at Brian Anderson before the Top of the ninth? I saw the ball just miss him, and he turned around. And a little later in the inning, I saw somebody get escorted out of the left center seats, but from where I was sitting, I couldnt get any more details.
Oh yes, I do know about this one.

My weekend season ticket plan is in section 101. When BA was done with his 9th inning warmups he tossed the ball out into the fans. The ball sadly flew over my head and was caught by a ****wad in a Tigers shirt, who up until then had been relatively well behaved. Apparently the ball hit his ******* button, because he got this evil grin and laughed and then chucked the ball right back out onto the field, just missing BA to the point I actually yelled "ANDERSON! DUCK!" He then proceeded to take bows and flip off everyone for the next few minutes until security escorted him out.

TheDarkGundam
08-13-2006, 11:37 PM
BA strikes me as a total *******. I'm sure he deserved it.

34rancher
08-13-2006, 11:42 PM
Dude,
Give the ball to a kid. I caught one of those Chevy t-shirts the other night, and I couldn't find one...had to go 4 rows up behind me. Gave it to the kid, made his night. Some people don't get it.

Vernam
08-13-2006, 11:44 PM
BA strikes me as a total *******. I'm sure he deserved it.Aaron would've caught it. :tongue:

Vernam

southwstchi4life
08-14-2006, 12:24 AM
Dude,
Give the ball to a kid. I caught one of those Chevy t-shirts the other night, and I couldn't find one...had to go 4 rows up behind me. Gave it to the kid, made his night. Some people don't get it.

Absolutley. Even opposing teams homeruns, give the ball to a kid, they'd love it. Bugs me every time they throw it back. This isnt Wrigley

spiffie
08-14-2006, 12:30 AM
Dude,
Give the ball to a kid. I caught one of those Chevy t-shirts the other night, and I couldn't find one...had to go 4 rows up behind me. Gave it to the kid, made his night. Some people don't get it.
A stranger gave me a t-shirt that I won't fit into for 10 years! Best night ever!

Justagirl
08-14-2006, 12:46 AM
A stranger gave me a t-shirt that I won't fit into for 10 years! Best night ever!
Fixed. ;)

Kub_Killer_15
08-14-2006, 01:22 AM
Tiggers fans think that White Sox fans are classless(checked their fans site)which is a sterotype but look at what their idoit fans are doing!

nug0hs
08-14-2006, 01:38 AM
Tiggers fans think that White Sox fans are classless(checked their fans site)which is a sterotype but look at what their idoit fans are doing!

Its true. I have been at school in Michigan all summer. All they do is talk smack about AJP and then bring up Boston half the time.

buehrle4cy05
08-14-2006, 01:40 AM
Interesting case in point:

At U.S. Cellular, when a fan throws a ball onto the field at a player, he gets ejected.

At the Urinal, the fan gets to stay and it is just brushed off.

I'm just sayin'.

Hagan
08-14-2006, 02:00 AM
Dude,
Give the ball to a kid. I caught one of those Chevy t-shirts the other night, and I couldn't find one...had to go 4 rows up behind me. Gave it to the kid, made his night. Some people don't get it.

I gave it to some old woman when i caught one. i figured a kid would have his whole life to catch one, also those shirts are pretty big that they throw out.

The Critic
08-14-2006, 02:14 AM
I gave it to some old woman when i caught one. i figured a kid would have his whole life to catch one, also those shirts are pretty big that they throw out.

Not all of them are. I almost got one on Saturday as it was bouncing off hands all around me. Ended up that a drunk 20-something ended up with it (shoving a kid from behind to get it - classy!!!)
He unrolls it and it's like a kid's medium - so he decides to wear it around his neck like a cape rather than give it to someone it might actually fit.

I love people.

Hagan
08-14-2006, 02:25 AM
The one i got was an XL.

During the first game of the past yankees series, Kyle Farnsworth threw a ball to this kid in a yankees uniform. When he did this one guy puts his hand over the kids head and grabs the ball from him. the kid had to be around 7 years old and the guy was around 30 classless years old. I then had to yell how he was a part of the female anatomy for 5 minutes.

Soxfanspcu11
08-14-2006, 03:33 AM
I saw this as well, couldn't believe it happened. I have season's in section 163, so I usually can see everything going on.

It will make you guys happy to know that while the security was escorting him out, they ****ed him up kinda bad.

I saw them bring the guy on to the concourse and he was fighting security (bad idea to fight Sox security, they DO NOT mess around). I have seen Sox security lay the beat down on a BUNCH of people, today was no different.

They laid the guy down on the concourse and one security guard basically did a flying knee to the guys head when he was on the ground, smashing his face into the concrete. He stopped fighting after that.:D:

But for real, if you ever find yourself in a position to be putting up a fight against Sox security, you better chill out IMMEDIATELY!

I was helping security out one time, they were under-manned in a HUGE brawl last June (2005). I helped 3 of the security guards carry this big guy into this little room that is located behind the scoreboard.

As SOON as we came through the door, the security guards started PUMMELING him. I mean a straight BEATDOWN. One guy was beating him with a batton type thing, and the other two were punching him in the head and neck. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, right in front of me.

If I was there to see that, I can't imagine what they do when no one's around.

Actually, I do have an idea. One of my friends is a Yankees fan and he was at a game against the Yankees last year. He ended up having to go to the hospital because he had his left arm and left collerbone broken by security.

It was his fault though, he started a fight with someone. And the cool thing is, the Sox ended up covering ALL of his hospital bills, which ended up being quite pricey.

Anyway, I asked him about it, and he said that he really wasn't supposed to talk about what happened, but from the few details I got, they basically gave him a Rodney King type thing "backstage".

Don't fight with Sox security. If you mess up and do something stupid, just let them arrest/detain you, it's the ONLY way to go. Unless of course, you want to look like you were in a car accident.

peeonwrigley
08-14-2006, 07:01 AM
I saw this as well, couldn't believe it happened. I have season's in section 163, so I usually can see everything going on.

It will make you guys happy to know that while the security was escorting him out, they ****ed him up kinda bad.

I saw them bring the guy on to the concourse and he was fighting security (bad idea to fight Sox security, they DO NOT mess around). I have seen Sox security lay the beat down on a BUNCH of people, today was no different.

They laid the guy down on the concourse and one security guard basically did a flying knee to the guys head when he was on the ground, smashing his face into the concrete. He stopped fighting after that.:D:

But for real, if you ever find yourself in a position to be putting up a fight against Sox security, you better chill out IMMEDIATELY!

I was helping security out one time, they were under-manned in a HUGE brawl last June (2005). I helped 3 of the security guards carry this big guy into this little room that is located behind the scoreboard.

As SOON as we came through the door, the security guards started PUMMELING him. I mean a straight BEATDOWN. One guy was beating him with a batton type thing, and the other two were punching him in the head and neck. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, right in front of me.

If I was there to see that, I can't imagine what they do when no one's around.

Actually, I do have an idea. One of my friends is a Yankees fan and he was at a game against the Yankees last year. He ended up having to go to the hospital because he had his left arm and left collerbone broken by security.

It was his fault though, he started a fight with someone. And the cool thing is, the Sox ended up covering ALL of his hospital bills, which ended up being quite pricey.

Anyway, I asked him about it, and he said that he really wasn't supposed to talk about what happened, but from the few details I got, they basically gave him a Rodney King type thing "backstage".

Don't fight with Sox security. If you mess up and do something stupid, just let them arrest/detain you, it's the ONLY way to go. Unless of course, you want to look like you were in a car accident.

Welcome to Bridgeport :rolleyes:

I would hope the Sox organization has more brains than this. Even if someone is a total assbag, beating the hell out of them leaves you open to all kinds of liabilities.

Wsoxmike59
08-14-2006, 07:17 AM
Remember the before and after pictures of Eric Dybas from Bolingbrook who tackled 1B umpire Laz Diaz?

When he was escorted from the field he was relatively unscathed. When they took him outside to the squad car, his head was bandaged and he had quite a few cuts and bruises about his face.

I showed it to my wife when it was in the paper, and I said "looks like Eric Dybas got a Comiskey Park tune up from security"

HerzogVon
08-14-2006, 07:32 AM
I saw this as well, couldn't believe it happened. I have season's in section 163, so I usually can see everything going on.

It will make you guys happy to know that while the security was escorting him out, they ****ed him up kinda bad.

I saw them bring the guy on to the concourse and he was fighting security (bad idea to fight Sox security, they DO NOT mess around). I have seen Sox security lay the beat down on a BUNCH of people, today was no different.

They laid the guy down on the concourse and one security guard basically did a flying knee to the guys head when he was on the ground, smashing his face into the concrete. He stopped fighting after that.:D:

But for real, if you ever find yourself in a position to be putting up a fight against Sox security, you better chill out IMMEDIATELY!

I was helping security out one time, they were under-manned in a HUGE brawl last June (2005). I helped 3 of the security guards carry this big guy into this little room that is located behind the scoreboard.

As SOON as we came through the door, the security guards started PUMMELING him. I mean a straight BEATDOWN. One guy was beating him with a batton type thing, and the other two were punching him in the head and neck. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, right in front of me.

If I was there to see that, I can't imagine what they do when no one's around.

Actually, I do have an idea. One of my friends is a Yankees fan and he was at a game against the Yankees last year. He ended up having to go to the hospital because he had his left arm and left collerbone broken by security.

It was his fault though, he started a fight with someone. And the cool thing is, the Sox ended up covering ALL of his hospital bills, which ended up being quite pricey.

Anyway, I asked him about it, and he said that he really wasn't supposed to talk about what happened, but from the few details I got, they basically gave him a Rodney King type thing "backstage".

Don't fight with Sox security. If you mess up and do something stupid, just let them arrest/detain you, it's the ONLY way to go. Unless of course, you want to look like you were in a car accident.

If all of this is true, then it's not something to be proud of. In fact, it's nothing less than criminal. This is the sort of crap that has gone on forever in some of the Police Precincts in Chicago. What, is Sox security now an extension of the "John Burge Society"?

Goons like this have no business operating under the sanction of an MLB club. They should be arrested and thrown in jail!

TornLabrum
08-14-2006, 07:55 AM
Welcome to Bridgeport :rolleyes:

I would hope the Sox organization has more brains than this. Even if someone is a total assbag, beating the hell out of them leaves you open to all kinds of liabilities.
Sox Security is off-duty police. What the guy was doing is called resisting arrest. They have the right to take whatever measures are necessary to subdue him. As for what happened downstairs, who know what the guy did to bring on anything that happened?

I'm withholding judgment on what they did pending more details of what the guy did after he was out of view of the crowd.

I wouldn't be surpirsed if this guy turns out to be a Cubs fan in Detroit gear.

Cat Thief
08-14-2006, 07:59 AM
You guys should have seen theses 2 scumbag (supposed) Sox fans that were thrown out of 150 on Sat. They were kicking and screaming all the way up the row. These 2 deserved any kind of beatdown they received.
You have to be a complete ******* to get kicked out of a game, and if you do, DON'T FIGHT WHITE SOX SECURITY!
I have no sympathy for guys that can handle their alcohol.

stl_sox_fan
08-14-2006, 08:59 AM
Someone already mentioned Dybas, but anytime I hear "fan incident" and "Comiskey", I think of that fool and William Ligue. It never ceases to amaze me the fans that want to get "involved" in the game.

http://amarillo.com/images/headlines/041703/attackersp.jpghttp://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/ligue0219.jpg
Model citizens.

itsnotrequired
08-14-2006, 09:09 AM
There was a row of goofballs in 518 at yesterday's game. They were pretty tanked up and then decided it would be a good idea to start swearing and throwing peanuts. They were warned once about smoking but I guess they thought that was a gag. Smoking warning two was issued an inning later. Not a half inning later, one of these knobs lights up AGAIN. Security had enough and escorted them out. They were protesting and saying things like "You have no right! This is America!" and other such nonsense. Idiots...

Kub_Killer_15
08-14-2006, 09:37 AM
There was a row of goofballs in 518 at yesterday's game. They were pretty tanked up and then decided it would be a good idea to start swearing and throwing peanuts. They were warned once about smoking but I guess they thought that was a gag. Smoking warning two was issued an inning later. Not a half inning later, one of these knobs lights up AGAIN. Security had enough and escorted them out. They were protesting and saying things like "You have no right! This is America!" and other such nonsense. Idiots...

Im pretty sure they were introduced to U.S Cellular Field rules by the secuirtys fist:cool:

Wsoxmike59
08-14-2006, 09:42 AM
Someone already mentioned Dybas, but anytime I hear "fan incident" and "Comiskey", I think of that fool and William Ligue. It never ceases to amaze me the fans that want to get "involved" in the game.

http://amarillo.com/images/headlines/041703/attackersp.jpg
The after effects of the Comiskey Park "tune-up"


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2003/04/15/umpire_attacked_ap/lg_fan_ap.jpg

Look Ma! No blood on my shirt here.

Law11
08-14-2006, 09:56 AM
Interesting case in point:

At U.S. Cellular, when a fan throws a ball onto the field at a player, he gets ejected.

At the Urinal, the fan gets to stay and it is just brushed off.

I'm just sayin'.


Had seats in the front row last week (Angels) next to the security guys on the 1st base line.
The second the ball gets hit into the stands they are on their two-ways describing exactly where the ball landed and who has the ball.

One guy threw it back and you could hear the security on the two-ways..
"black shirt, red cap section xxx row 10 etc..

Pretty cool actually.
Then another one went out to right field and security was waiting but it never got thrown back.

We had this guy next to us saying why not throw it back, its tradition..

I said who's? Not ours.. Go up north and honor that garbage.
He just looked at me with a its fun to throw it back look...

The security guard says to us "I dont think people understand you get tossed for throwing it back"..

The kid next to me says why.. the response from security... It aint Wrigley thats why...

Priceless.

rightsox
08-14-2006, 10:01 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2003/04/15/umpire_attacked_ap/lg_fan_ap.jpg

Look Ma! No blood on my shirt here.

If I was that guy, I'd send the Cell security people a christmas card every year for getting him out of there before the royals gave him a beatdown for the ages. Did he get sent to the pokey for this?

Wsoxmike59
08-14-2006, 10:02 AM
I went to a White Sox - Red Sox game a couple years ago and Manny hit a HR in to the LF seats a few sections over from where I was sitting.

This dopey teenager sitting to my right immediately started shouting at the top of lungs THROW IT BACK....THROW IT BACK!"

I looked at him and shot him a crazy look and said....dude this ain't Wrigley we don't do that here.

It's so easy to spot the band-wagon fans at the Cell. Throwing balls back, starting the Wave etc....:angry:

Oblong
08-14-2006, 10:03 AM
That guy escorting him has kind of a smirk on his face like "Look what I got do!"

Wsoxmike59
08-14-2006, 10:05 AM
If I was that guy, I'd send the Cell security people a christmas card every year for getting him out of there before the royals gave him a beatdown for the ages. Did he get sent to the pokey for this?

Oh yeah he got a stiff fine and jail sentence for his actions.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=News&id=198999


After I proved to the Cub fans at work that 3 out of 4 people that ran on to the field that night were Cub fans they stopped giving me **** about it.

Nothing better than shutting Cub fans up when you present them with the facts.

Pasqua's Posers
08-14-2006, 10:21 AM
If all of this is true, then it's not something to be proud of. In fact, it's nothing less than criminal. This is the sort of crap that has gone on forever in some of the Police Precincts in Chicago. What, is Sox security now an extension of the "John Burge Society"?

Goons like this have no business operating under the sanction of an MLB club. They should be arrested and thrown in jail!

The pieces of garbage that start fights and act like ******** deserve what they get. It's clowns like this that ruin it for the good fans. Good for security for giving them a beatdown...
:gulp:

HerzogVon
08-14-2006, 10:23 AM
Sox Security is off-duty police. What the guy was doing is called resisting arrest. They have the right to take whatever measures are necessary to subdue him. As for what happened downstairs, who know what the guy did to bring on anything that happened?

I'm withholding judgment on what they did pending more details of what the guy did after he was out of view of the crowd.

I wouldn't be surpirsed if this guy turns out to be a Cubs fan in Detroit gear.

Oh, come on! It doesn't matter who the guy was. There is no excuse for that sort of behavior. Taking him into a back room? Beating a person until he/she ( hey, why not? ) requires hospitalization? That is felonious assault, cops or no friggin' cops! Necessary force is one thing when lives are threatened. A gang of licensed thugs beating the crap out someone is totally out of bounds, as well as criminal.

As for Soxfanspcu11; if he saw what he claims to have seen, then he could - and should - be called as a material witness. Hopefully, one or more of the victims of "Bridgeport hospitality" will come forward and press charges.

And no, I am not a lawyer!

Shakey Bonez
08-14-2006, 11:09 AM
If a guy is drunk enough to run onto the field to attack players or coaches, or if he's drunk/angry enough to start fighting people in the stands - I'm going to assume that he's not going to put his head down and walk peacefully with the cops out of the stadium.

CaptainBallz
08-14-2006, 11:10 AM
Oh, come on! It doesn't matter who the guy was. There is no excuse for that sort of behavior. Taking him into a back room? Beating a person until he/she ( hey, why not? ) requires hospitalization? That is felonious assault, cops or no friggin' cops! Necessary force is one thing when lives are threatened. A gang of licensed thugs beating the crap out someone is totally out of bounds, as well as criminal.

As for Soxfanspcu11; if he saw what he claims to have seen, then he could - and should - be called as a material witness. Hopefully, one or more of the victims of "Bridgeport hospitality" will come forward and press charges.

And no, I am not a lawyer!

I agree. There's no excuse for excessive use of force-- on-duty, off-duty, or just plain 'ol security. I'm not excusing people for being jagbags. They need to be subdued and if it takes a knee to the head, then so be it. But laying the crucial beatdown behind closed doors after they are subdued is for the gestapo. It's nothing to be proud of.

Either way, I'm hoping for next season the Sox invest in some HIGHLY VISIBLE signs warning against anything being thrown onto the field. Us fans can only do so much to try and educate these morons.

Sox-o-matic
08-14-2006, 11:37 AM
If all of this is true, then it's not something to be proud of. In fact, it's nothing less than criminal. This is the sort of crap that has gone on forever in some of the Police Precincts in Chicago. What, is Sox security now an extension of the "John Burge Society"?

Goons like this have no business operating under the sanction of an MLB club. They should be arrested and thrown in jail!

Come on.

If you're dumb enough to fight a security guard you deserve to get your ass kicked. I'd much rather have Sox security standing up for themselves and sending a message to the offender than going somewhere to 'talk about it.'

There is a difference between having a few too many and saying something stupid resulting in an ejection and trying to injure another fan or a player. Those who choose not to obey a few simple rules that protect the other forty+ thousand respectful fans at the game do not deserve to be treated the same way non-offenders are.

Kudos to Sox security and to Da Mayor, as I'm sure he's definitely not behind this. :rolleyes:

miker
08-14-2006, 11:40 AM
Don't fight with Sox security. If you mess up and do something stupid, just let them arrest/detain you, it's the ONLY way to go. Unless of course, you want to look like you were in a car accident.
:hawk
I luv Sox security!

Sox-o-matic
08-14-2006, 11:48 AM
I agree. There's no excuse for excessive use of force-- on-duty, off-duty, or just plain 'ol security. I'm not excusing people for being jagbags. They need to be subdued and if it takes a knee to the head, then so be it. But laying the crucial beatdown behind closed doors after they are subdued is for the gestapo. It's nothing to be proud of.

Or for the US military or any other nation for that matter, or for security in other places especially Vegas, or for law enforcement....

Beatdowns are effective, that's why they have been handed out quite liberally throughout the history of man. You need to remember that Brian Anderson is a huge investment for an organization worth millions and millions or dollars. To protect that investment 'by any means necessary' is certainly not uncommon.

Either way, I'm hoping for next season the Sox invest in some HIGHLY VISIBLE signs warning against anything being thrown onto the field. Us fans can only do so much to try and educate these morons.

I'm with you here. But then again, they've tried and tried before. I believe even one of the grinder rules says something about not throwing a ball back. The bottom line though is that we will still have a ton of non-fans showing up thinking it's Wrigley no matter what. It's very sad though.

Grzegorz
08-14-2006, 11:53 AM
During the first game of the past yankees series, Kyle Farnsworth threw a ball to this kid in a yankees uniform.

With his control, the sixty-four thousand dollar question is whether Farnsworth intended to throw it to the kid in the Yankee uniform.

DaleJRFan
08-14-2006, 11:58 AM
I'm with you here. But then again, they've tried and tried before. I believe even one of the grinder rules says something about not throwing a ball back. The bottom line though is that we will still have a ton of non-fans showing up thinking it's Wrigley no matter what. It's very sad though.

No matter what the Sox do, signage, beatdowns, whatever - idiot fans will still do **** that pisses off the good fans and makes us look bad on the national stage. We have to deal with that. This is commonsplace at any sporting event that serves alcohol.

But at least we don't throw garbage on the field. We just have to remember that for every 1 bad story, there are dozens of "good" stories too.

I went to one of the BoSox games before the allstar break. I was first row in section 143, right next to the Sox dugout. After the Red Sox half of the inning, every mongoloid and their uncle were pushing the little kids out of the way to wave at Paulie to throw them the ball from the last out. Later on in the game, Cintron caught a liner to end the Boston half of the inning. As he jogged in, he looked over the crowd of middle aged men fighting with each other for a $6 baseball. There wa a group of little kids next to me, and I noticed Alex looking at them, so I pointed with both hands down towards them. Alex threw the ball into the crowd of 4 or 5 little kids.

I'd much rather read stories about players/fans doing nice things than having to read the same "some idiot fan did something stupid" posts over and over again.

Let's start a new trend here, each poster in this thread has to tell a good story about a player/fan doing something nice at a game....

CaptainBallz
08-14-2006, 11:59 AM
Or for the US military or any other nation for that matter, or for security in other places especially Vegas, or for law enforcement....

Beatdowns are effective, that's why they have been handed out quite liberally throughout the history of man. You need to remember that Brian Anderson is a huge investment for an organization worth millions and millions or dollars. To protect that investment 'by any means necessary' is certainly not uncommon.


I don't necessarily see a decline in the number of *******s throughout the history of man. Beatdowns are a notoriously bad deterrent, or at least a temporary one.

I agree that measures need to be taken to subdue somebody that's being a clown. If it's a whack of a baton, then there you go. But the story about the guy already being subdued, then going into a backroom to taste some "Comiskey Justice" is over doing it. Trust me, if this is true and became a bit more public, the PR debacle would be huge. And I don't think examples of the US military and mobsters in Vegas would justify it.

Martinigirl
08-14-2006, 12:31 PM
Call me skeptical, but I find it hard to believe that the security are beating people to the point of medical intervention and there are no lawsuits filed against them. If someone beat the crap out of you and you needed to go to an emergency room, I highly doubt you would just settle for them paying your medical bills. This is America, you sue for all you can get, particularly if the pockets are deep, like the pockets of a professional baseball team.

They might knock you around a bit, but I doubt there are broken bones involved. It is like a good fish tale, you might have caught a tadpole but by the time you tell all your friends about it, you caught a great white shark...

Justagirl
08-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Tiggers fans think that White Sox fans are classless(checked their fans site)which is a sterotype but look at what their idoit fans are doing!

Id rather have classless fans than classless players.
Teams have no control over their fan base. When your teams own catcher is classless and repeatedly makes an ass out of himself speaks volumes about your team, imo.

Sox-o-matic
08-14-2006, 03:41 PM
But the story about the guy already being subdued, then going into a backroom to taste some "Comiskey Justice" is over doing it. Trust me, if this is true and became a bit more public, the PR debacle would be huge. And I don't think examples of the US military and mobsters in Vegas would justify it.

I agree that if this is true and if someone went to the media with a story about getting beaten up by security guards, the Sox would take a huge hit in the media. It would end up as another scenario where the criminal becomes the victim thanks to the media and a bunch of hippies in denial who want to protect those who care nothing for their fellow man.

I know that in this ultra-PC country we live in what I think would probably be viewed as morally wrong, but to me, if someone shows up at a baseball game - or any public place for that matter - simply to cause unnecessary harm to another person who did nothing to warrant it, that person deserves whatever it is given to him. If it means being hit a couple of times and then taken into the back to be beaten up some more, so be it. It is people like that who are the enemies, not those who we pay to protect us.

Sox-o-matic
08-14-2006, 03:51 PM
No matter what the Sox do, signage, beatdowns, whatever - idiot fans will still do **** that pisses off the good fans and makes us look bad on the national stage. We have to deal with that. This is commonsplace at any sporting event that serves alcohol.

But at least we don't throw garbage on the field. We just have to remember that for every 1 bad story, there are dozens of "good" stories too.

I went to one of the BoSox games before the allstar break. I was first row in section 143, right next to the Sox dugout. After the Red Sox half of the inning, every mongoloid and their uncle were pushing the little kids out of the way to wave at Paulie to throw them the ball from the last out. Later on in the game, Cintron caught a liner to end the Boston half of the inning. As he jogged in, he looked over the crowd of middle aged men fighting with each other for a $6 baseball. There wa a group of little kids next to me, and I noticed Alex looking at them, so I pointed with both hands down towards them. Alex threw the ball into the crowd of 4 or 5 little kids.

I'd much rather read stories about players/fans doing nice things than having to read the same "some idiot fan did something stupid" posts over and over again.

Let's start a new trend here, each poster in this thread has to tell a good story about a player/fan doing something nice at a game....

I agree with everything here. The problem the Sox have with their 'fans' is the same problem that every other team in the league has, especially if that team is drawing a ton of fans each year. I'm sure there are thousands of great Red Sox fans who are just as ashamed of what you saw as you were, and I know we all like to make cracks about the Cubs here, there are also a ton of respectful Cub fans who hate all the crap their fellow 'faithful' pulls from the stands.

It would be nice to only hear about the good stories, and in truth there are probably 500 or more good stories for every bad one, but the fact is the negative stories always will draw more attention.

maurice
08-14-2006, 04:40 PM
It's not a Bridgeport thing; it's a Chicago thing. It's well known that CPD officers (on duty or off duty) sometimes beat the crap out of people who are in custody (most guilty but some innocent). The Cook County jails are even worse.

I'm sure it's as bad or worse in other major cities, but it's been the subject of extensive media coverage in Chicago. Unlike many media stories, this one actually is true.

And no, it doesn't usually result in "broken bones." You can inflict substantial pain on somebody without breaking any bones.

Soxfanspcu11
08-14-2006, 05:16 PM
As for Soxfanspcu11; if he saw what he claims to have seen, then he could - and should - be called as a material witness. Hopefully, one or more of the victims of "Bridgeport hospitality" will come forward and press charges.

And no, I am not a lawyer!


If the guy wanted to press charges against security, I would have no problem talking to the DA, giving my statement, testifying in court, etc.

I would however tell the whole story. That the guy did indeed deserve what he got. He was acting in a VERY threating way to not only security, but the other fans as well.

I know it may not sound like it, but I'm not a fan of violence at all. I don't like fighting and all that drama, it's just completely uncalled for and makes you look like such trash. These people either don't know how ugly and horrible they look, or they just don't care.

I actually recall an incident about a month ago where this girl and her boyfriend were trying everything they could to fight security, and I believe security did a great job of restraining themselves.

If someone is going to threaten and try and physically injure security, then they deserve what they get. It's retaliation, not instigation, IMHO.

Domeshot17
08-14-2006, 05:35 PM
WAH WAH WAH WAH

You take a swing at a security officer, you better be ready to get 10 back. ITs called self defense. You don't wanna get the **** beat out of you at the sox game? Don't act like a jackass

ITS THAT SIMPLE

Justagirl
08-14-2006, 05:37 PM
WAH WAH WAH WAH

You take a swing at a security officer, you better be ready to get 10 back. ITs called self defense. You don't wanna get the **** beat out of you at the sox game? Don't act like a jackass

ITS THAT SIMPLE
I concur.

1951Campbell
08-14-2006, 06:44 PM
It's not a Bridgeport thing; it's a Chicago thing. It's well known that CPD officers (on duty or off duty) sometimes beat the crap out of people who are in custody (most guilty but some innocent). The Cook County jails are even worse.

I'm sure it's as bad or worse in other major cities, but it's been the subject of extensive media coverage in Chicago. Unlike many media stories, this one actually is true.

And no, it doesn't usually result in "broken bones." You can inflict substantial pain on somebody without breaking any bones.

Also, security/police ganging up and beating the **** out of someone is generally considered unprofessional.

I'd imagine that if some of the folks here who are pumping their fists about how awesome it is that some belligerent drunk guy getting beaten up got roughed up due to, say, a simple misunderstanding, they'd be the first to scream bloody murder and call the lawyer on the back of the phone book.

Cops and security folks are like regular people, they're mostly all right but there's a few bad apples.

thomas35forever
08-14-2006, 07:00 PM
The man must've been drunk off his ass since he was probably drinking so much to cope with the fact that his Tiggers were choking.

CaptainBallz
08-15-2006, 02:50 AM
I know that in this ultra-PC country we live in what I think would probably be viewed as morally wrong, but to me, if someone shows up at a baseball game - or any public place for that matter - simply to cause unnecessary harm to another person who did nothing to warrant it, that person deserves whatever it is given to him. If it means being hit a couple of times and then taken into the back to be beaten up some more, so be it. It is people like that who are the enemies, not those who we pay to protect us.

That's all I have an issue with. ***? Save a small nuclear device, it seems a bit unecessary...

Now, we duel...:duel: