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Viva Medias B's
08-08-2006, 09:04 AM
Willie Mays went on to win the "Best Giant Ever" poll, and Bob Feller was voted the "Best Indian Ever."

Today, it's the Seattle Mariners' turn.

Oblong
08-08-2006, 09:29 AM
My brain voted for Griffey but my heart wanted to vote for Edgar.

TornLabrum
08-08-2006, 09:35 AM
It'll be interesting to see if anyone votes for somebody other than Jr.

palehozenychicty
08-08-2006, 09:41 AM
Jr. in his prime was undoubtedly the best player in the game. period. if only he had stayed in the northwest, his career would've been even better.:(:

I want Mags back
08-08-2006, 10:02 AM
jr

samram
08-08-2006, 10:09 AM
Junior. He made that franchise relevant. Alvin Davis, Jay Buhner, even the inappropriately touchy Harold Reynolds could not make the M's matter- Junior did. However, if Arod had stayed there......:smile:

Johnny Mostil
08-08-2006, 10:13 AM
It'll be interesting to see if anyone votes for somebody other than Jr.

Agree, although it might have been more interesting if A-Rod or Johnson were on the ballot . . .

WS in 05
08-08-2006, 10:30 AM
What no Freddy?

soxfan13
08-08-2006, 10:34 AM
Harold Reynolds!!!

BNLSox
08-08-2006, 10:35 AM
How do you pick between Miguel Olivo, Jeremy Reed, Joe Borchard, and Carl Everett?

downstairs
08-08-2006, 10:37 AM
Hmmmm... interesting list. They also had a pitcher by the name of Johnson and a shortstop named Alex.... those two were pretty good, if I remember...

:rolleyes:

batmanZoSo
08-08-2006, 11:00 AM
Hmmmm... interesting list. They also had a pitcher by the name of Johnson and a shortstop named Alex.... those two were pretty good, if I remember...

:rolleyes:
Griffey made the Mariners. He pretty much built Safeco. The other two spent the prime of their careers elsewhere.

Griffey also gets a ton of added respect in my eyes, along with guys like Thomas and Bagwell, who dominated in a hitters era without cheating. Griffey hit over 50 homers multiple times on pure talent and a perfect swing. I'd like to see him make a comeback to greatness somehow, but it's hard to see happening after all these years and the various injuries.

soxfan13
08-08-2006, 11:23 AM
The other two spent the prime of their careers elsewhere.



Rodriguez spent 7 years with the Mariners 5 of them full seasons about 130 Hrs over 700 RBIs and .300 plus batting average. Johnson spent 10 seasons(2 of them half seasons) with the M's 130 wins. I would think they both deserve to be on the list.

Johnny Mostil
08-08-2006, 11:26 AM
Hmmmm... interesting list. They also had a pitcher by the name of Johnson and a shortstop named Alex.... those two were pretty good, if I remember...

:rolleyes:

Maybe MLB didn't want two-fifths of the M's ballot to be booed in Seattle . . .

samram
08-08-2006, 11:35 AM
Rodriguez spent 7 years with the Mariners 5 of them full seasons about 130 Hrs over 700 RBIs and .300 plus batting average. Johnson spent 10 seasons(2 of them half seasons) with the M's 130 wins. I would think they both deserve to be on the list.

Methinks MLB wants Johnson on the Dbacks lists (which he was) and Arod on the Rangers' list because he may be the only player to ever have big success there without using roids.

soxfan13
08-08-2006, 11:38 AM
Methinks MLB wants Johnson on the Dbacks lists (which he was) and Arod on the Rangers' list because he may be the only player to ever have big success there without using roids.

Could be very true. It seems like these lists have no rhyme or reason to them.

Johnny Mostil
08-08-2006, 11:38 AM
Methinks MLB wants Johnson on the Dbacks lists (which he was) and Arod on the Rangers' list because he may be the only player to ever have big success there without using roids.

Good point, but other players (e.g., Ryan) appear on more than one list . . .

soxfan13
08-08-2006, 11:45 AM
Good point, but other players (e.g., Ryan) appear on more than one list . . .

Interesting I did not know that. Knowing that, I think both Johnson and Arod should be on the list considering they have both spent over half their careers with the Ms

areilly
08-08-2006, 11:49 AM
My brain says Jr., my heart says Edgar, my soul says Ichiro...

...and my old baseball card collection says Mark Langston.


Griff it is.

Dan Mega
08-08-2006, 11:51 AM
Buhner was solid but he got a vote over Junior?:?:

slobes
08-08-2006, 12:01 PM
There was a time when I thought Jr. would have a shot at Hank Aaron's record. He completely ted while in Seattle.

Oblong
08-08-2006, 12:16 PM
Go check out Griffey's career stats right now. Go ahead. I would bet that when you do you will think to yourself "Man, he was greater than I remember".

samram
08-08-2006, 01:09 PM
Good point, but other players (e.g., Ryan) appear on more than one list . . .

Ah, didn't know that.

Dick Allen
08-08-2006, 01:15 PM
For sheer longevity and performing at a high level during most of that time, I would take Edgar.

PKalltheway
08-08-2006, 01:17 PM
I voted Griffey. He was not only the face of the Mariners in the '90's, but he was pretty much the face of baseball in the '90's. Even though he's older now, it would be nice to see him get a shot at playing in the World Series if the Reds get there this year (if he can stay healthy).

buehrle4cy05
08-08-2006, 01:39 PM
Junior. One of baseball's great tragedies, if you ask me.

PennStater98r
08-08-2006, 01:55 PM
For sheer longevity and performing at a high level during most of that time, I would take Edgar.

I'd say Griffey had more longevity wearing a Seattle uniform than 'gar did.

Heck - if you take out the Reds years from Junior's career - those are some of the best season avg. numbers you'll see a single player have - kinda like Frank Thomas from '91- '00

soxinem1
08-08-2006, 02:08 PM
Junior. He made that franchise relevant. Alvin Davis, Jay Buhner, even the inappropriately touchy Harold Reynolds could not make the M's matter- Junior did. However, if Arod had stayed there......:smile:

Ken Griffey, Sr.

I mean Ken Griffey, Jr. He was the one who made the franchise creditable and profitable, and able to get Safeco built. Otherwise, they'd be playing in the beautiful Kingdom still........ or in Florida.

batmanZoSo
08-08-2006, 02:22 PM
Rodriguez spent 7 years with the Mariners 5 of them full seasons about 130 Hrs over 700 RBIs and .300 plus batting average. Johnson spent 10 seasons(2 of them half seasons) with the M's 130 wins. I would think they both deserve to be on the list.

Even if they were, they'd have no chance of winning. It's really no contest with this one.

Dick Allen
08-08-2006, 02:29 PM
I'd say Griffey had more longevity wearing a Seattle uniform than 'gar did.

Heck - if you take out the Reds years from Junior's career - those are some of the best season avg. numbers you'll see a single player have - kinda like Frank Thomas from '91- '00No. Jr played from 1989-2000, Edgar from 1987-2004. I'm certainly not disputing that Jr was the most talented.

RKMeibalane
08-08-2006, 02:34 PM
Ken Griffey Jr.

CRAW
08-08-2006, 02:42 PM
My brain voted for Griffey but my heart wanted to vote for Edgar.

Same thing here. Edgar was one of the most prolific hitters of my generation.

areilly
08-08-2006, 02:57 PM
Same thing here. Edgar was one of the most prolific hitters of my generation.

18 seasons with the same team is not a bad way to spend a career either, if you ask me.

1951Campbell
08-08-2006, 02:59 PM
Go check out Griffey's career stats right now. Go ahead. I would bet that when you do you will think to yourself "Man, he was greater than I remember".

No doubt. No one has ever hit 56 HRs two seasons in a row and then had the accomplishment so thoroughly forgotten.

TornLabrum
08-08-2006, 03:37 PM
No doubt. No one has ever hit 56 HRs two seasons in a row and then had the accomplishment so thoroughly forgotten.

Due to a bunch of steroid injected freaks.

goofymsfan
08-08-2006, 04:21 PM
As a Mariner fan, I voted Edgar. His double down the line that beat the Yankees is one of the biggest hits in M's history. He also has an award named after him. He stayed in Seattle when the big three all wanted to leave. He even took less money to stay. He was the heart of the M's fanchise.

Railsplitter
08-08-2006, 05:09 PM
Junior

Pitcher: Randy Johnson

gbergman
08-08-2006, 05:11 PM
Ken Griffey Jr. all the way. No one did more. If he hadn't left Seasttle i'd be willing to bet he would of been closing in on 700 hrs by now. Jay Buhner is no way, Edgar was great but not the best , and Ichiro has been in the league only 5 years

eastchicagosoxfan
08-08-2006, 08:17 PM
Junior is ahead of The Big Unit who's ahead of Ichiro.

SouthSide_HitMen
08-08-2006, 09:01 PM
It'll be interesting to see if anyone votes for somebody other than Jr.

Edgar. Griffey's career is better but several seasons were spent on the banks of the Ohio.

Daver
08-08-2006, 09:03 PM
Christopher Columbus.

RKMeibalane
08-08-2006, 09:07 PM
Christopher Columbus.

Okay...

Oblong
08-08-2006, 09:17 PM
The Ancient one... I dont' know his name but Iron Maiden did a song about him so he must have been good.