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Viva Medias B's
08-04-2006, 08:11 AM
Yesterday's winner as the "Best Devil Ray Ever" was Carl Crawford.

Today, we look at the other expansion team that came into the league with the Rays, the Arizona Diamondbacks.

Johnny Mostil
08-04-2006, 08:19 AM
Stottlemyre made the DHL ballot and Schilling didn't?:?:

kraut83
08-04-2006, 08:37 AM
Luis Gonzalez & the 01 World Series are the first thing that come to mind with the D-Backs.

Dan Mega
08-04-2006, 09:17 AM
The Big Unit.

MarySwiss
08-04-2006, 10:32 AM
Gonzo is the face of the D'Backs. If this poll was being taken in Arizona, it wouldn't even be close.

I want Mags back
08-04-2006, 10:38 AM
Gonzo

Railsplitter
08-04-2006, 10:38 AM
I put Randy Johnson dopwn, for no reason other than his perfect game.
They haven't been around long enough for this survey. Ditto the D-Rays

SoxFanPrope
08-04-2006, 11:00 AM
Gonzo is the face of the D'Backs. If this poll was being taken in Arizona, it wouldn't even be close.
I seem to recall you saying this in another thread. I honestly can not think o fhow many years Randy Johnson spent in Arizona, but I do know that Gonzo has been there for as long as I can remember. It is weird, trades and free agency has made it tough to identify a player with a team. This is not the case with Gonzo and the Diamondbacks.

SOXintheBURGH
08-04-2006, 11:07 AM
The Eunich.

slobes
08-04-2006, 11:11 AM
Randy Johnson was a stud for the D'Backs. Perfect game. 3-0 in World Series. Co-MVP of World Series. Can't top that.

LuvSox
08-04-2006, 11:16 AM
Gonzo

Gonzo, baby

MarySwiss
08-04-2006, 11:23 AM
I seem to recall you saying this in another thread. I honestly can not think o fhow many years Randy Johnson spent in Arizona, but I do know that Gonzo has been there for as long as I can remember. It is weird, trades and free agency has made it tough to identify a player with a team. This is not the case with Gonzo and the Diamondbacks.

I think Randy was there for three years. In 1998, in a trade that the Tigers will probably never forget, we got Gonzo (and cash!), and they got the immortal Karim Garcia.

Nothing against Randy; I will never forget when he came on in relief in Game Seven of the 2001 Series, but Gonzo is immensely popular in Arizona. He's very visible in the community, does a ton of charity work--including his "Going Gonzo for School" program to mentor children. He is also widely acknowledged to be an all-around nice guy and family man (father of triplets).

SOXintheBURGH
08-04-2006, 11:26 AM
Why is there no option for Mark Grace? :tongue:

Johnny Mostil
08-04-2006, 11:28 AM
I think Randy was there for three years.

Actually six (http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/johnsra05.shtml).

I've yet to look up the original link for these polls. Are they supposed to be "best of" or "face of" (or a little of both?)?

Oblong
08-04-2006, 11:28 AM
I think Randy was there for three years. In 1998, in a trade that the Tigers will probably never forget, we got Gonzo (and cash!), and they got the immortal Karim Garcia.


The Latino Bambino! The part that gets me is the "and cash". That's what happens when GM's don't pay attention to park effects. Garcia tore up the AFL but that's a hitter's league.

Luis has such a sweet swing. He's the guy. It's fitting he got the hit in the WS to win it too.

MarySwiss
08-04-2006, 11:33 AM
Actually six (http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/johnsra05.shtml).

I've yet to look up the original link for these polls. Are they supposed to be "best of" or "face of" (or a little of both?)?

Hmmm. Well for some reason, I didn't think it was that long, and I didn't care enough to look it up.

IIRC, Randy fell out of favor with many D'Backs fans when he was sulking around and looking to be traded. I'd be interested in hearing what Michned, Markopat, and some of the other Arizona WSIers think, but the way I look at it is: "Thanks, Randy. I'll always be grateful for the 2001 Series, but you're a Yankee now." Pretty much feel the same way about Schilling and the Wrong Sox.

batmanZoSo
08-04-2006, 12:50 PM
Oh who gives a ****? Get to the real teams with a history already. :rolleyes:

SouthSide_HitMen
08-04-2006, 02:45 PM
I'll always be grateful for the 2001 Series, but you're a Yankee now." Pretty much feel the same way about Schilling and the Wrong Sox.

There would have been no 2001 World Series without Randy Johnson. There could have been one without Gonzalez. JMO of course.

I voted Randy Johnson. He had 56.4 WARP or 2.9 less than Gonzalez accumulated over 1 1/2 seasons less during an ERA where a hitter will accumulate more win shares.

MarySwiss
08-04-2006, 02:53 PM
There would have been no 2001 World Series without Randy Johnson. There could have been one without Gonzalez. JMO of course.

I voted Randy Johnson. He had 56.4 WARP or 2.9 less than Gonzalez accumulated over 1 1/2 seasons less during an ERA where a hitter will accumulate more win shares.

Well, all of these "best ever" polls come down to opinion. And a lot of it depends on what you think "best" means. I prefer to give it a broad interpretation, so things such as character, loyalty, giving back to the community, etc., count with me.

That's why I will always consider Frank Thomas a White Sox. And if Luis Gonzalez went somewhere else, he'd always be a D'Back to me, but Randy is a Yankee and Curt is a Red Sox. Totally subjective.

Oblong
08-04-2006, 03:06 PM
Another way to look at it is when you think of the player, what franchise do you think of? When I think of Randy I think of Seattle.

PKalltheway
08-04-2006, 03:44 PM
I voted Randy Johnson. He may end up the the first D'back in the Hall of Fame.

During his years in Arizona 1999-2004:
4 Cy Youngs (including a remarkable 24-5 record in 2002, and a staggering 364 k's in 1999 and 372 k's in 2001)
3 postseason appearances (1999, 2001, 2002), 1 World Title
20 strikeout game vs. Reds in 2001
Perfect Game vs. Braves in 2004
When I think of Randy Johnson, I think of him coming out of the bullpen in relief of Curt Schilling in Game 7 of the 2001 World Series. Truly a classic moment.

JUribe1989
08-04-2006, 03:50 PM
It has to be Luis Gonzalez. The best moment in Diamondback history was his game-winning hit in the 2001 World Series and he was great in the Phoenix community. If Matt Williams had been with the team earlier I probably would have voted for him.