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35th&Shields
08-03-2006, 12:31 PM
ESPN.com must not realize how popular the throwbacks of those jersey are across America. They're a modern classic. For the whole article hit the link.

1. Chicago White Sox, 1982-86.
It's tough to know where to start with the Chisox. Do you poke fun at their wide-collared pajama tops from the '70s? Or at the uni number on the left pant leg from the late '80s? (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/060803)

rowand33
08-03-2006, 12:33 PM
I love those jerseys!

easily my favorites.

LongLiveFisk
08-03-2006, 12:34 PM
ESPN.com must not realize how popular the throwbacks of those jersey are across America. They're a modern classic. For the whole article hit the link.

1. Chicago White Sox, 1982-86.
It's tough to know where to start with the Chisox. Do you poke fun at their wide-collared pajama tops from the '70s? Or at the uni number on the left pant leg from the late '80s? (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/060803)

Yeah, these were pretty bad, IMO. Too much like softball uniforms. But they're sort of fun now just as a retro thing.

"wrong" sox fan
08-03-2006, 12:35 PM
No one knew how to dress in the 80's.

The White Sox looked bad
The Astros looked awful
The Red Sox looked like that ironed their name to their shirts
Angels looked as if they were a little league team
and don't get my started on KC

C-Dawg
08-03-2006, 12:37 PM
I've always liked those uniforms. But I may be biased; I like all the Sox uniforms.

doogiec
08-03-2006, 12:38 PM
The Sox actually had a fan contest with voting to select those uniforms. As ugly as the those are, you should see the uniforms that lost the contest.

"wrong" sox fan
08-03-2006, 12:41 PM
The Sox actually had a fan contest with voting to select those uniforms. As ugly as the those are, you should see the uniforms that lost the contest.


holy crap and idea where one can find them?

Jerko
08-03-2006, 12:46 PM
The Sox actually had a fan contest with voting to select those uniforms. As ugly as the those are, you should see the uniforms that lost the contest.

I remember some of those. Scary.

Baby Fisk
08-03-2006, 12:48 PM
Yeah, these were pretty bad, IMO. Too much like softball uniforms. But they're sort of fun now just as a retro thing.
I luv wearing the 1983 hats, both home and road. The home one was so ugly you have to be some kind of tough guy to get away with wearing it. That's what I keep telling myself.

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/200000/204500/204512/Products/7531287.jpg
So bad it's good.
So wrong it's right.
So sick it's dope.
So, uh, flash it's, um... word? :?:

"wrong" sox fan
08-03-2006, 12:50 PM
I luv wearing the 1983 hats, both home and road. The home one was so ugly you have to be some kind of tough guy to get away with wearing it. That's what I keep telling myself.

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/200000/204500/204512/Products/7531287.jpg
So bad it's good.
So wrong it's right.
So sick it's dope.
So, uh, flash it's, um... word? :?:

I don't screw with a guy wearing that hat...


Never fight and ugly guy as he won't care what ya do to him...

never fight a guy wearing that hat because he's flipping nuts.

HITMEN OF 77
08-03-2006, 12:51 PM
I was never a big fan of those uniforms, but there certainly not the worst. The Mariners late 70's early 80's get my vote.

jenn2080
08-03-2006, 12:59 PM
I actually like those jerseys.

batmanZoSo
08-03-2006, 01:02 PM
ESPN.com must not realize how popular the throwbacks of those jersey are across America. They're a modern classic. For the whole article hit the link.

1. Chicago White Sox, 1982-86.
It's tough to know where to start with the Chisox. Do you poke fun at their wide-collared pajama tops from the '70s? Or at the uni number on the left pant leg from the late '80s? (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/060803)

Those are regrettable, albeit not without retro value, but there are far worse Sox uniforms to choose from. The collars, the red pinstripes (not so much aesthetically, but come on, red?)

batmanZoSo
08-03-2006, 01:04 PM
holy crap and idea where one can find them?

Right here on the site.

http://whitesoxinteractive.com/images/Uniforms/81Fans.jpg

These are from the Guide to Uniforms article found at the bottom of the home page.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=3&id=2104

stl_sox_fan
08-03-2006, 01:04 PM
For being the ugliest, I am sure am seeing more and more of them lately. I kinda still like them. The old Expos jersies weren't much to look at either.

The article loses all credibility when they say the uni the Pistons wore several years ago were the worst in the NBA.

batmanZoSo
08-03-2006, 01:08 PM
For being the ugliest, I am sure am seeing more and more of them lately. I kinda still like them. The old Expos jersies weren't much to look at either.

The article loses all credibility when they say the uni the Pistons wore several years ago were the worst in the NBA.

You mean the teal ones with the flaming horse? A complete abomination those were. They came to their senses and went back to red and blue.

stl_sox_fan
08-03-2006, 01:11 PM
You mean the teal ones with the flaming horse? A complete abomination those were. They came to their senses and went back to red and blue.

I thought anything teal would be appreciated on this board. :cool:

Baby Fisk
08-03-2006, 01:15 PM
Those are regrettable, albeit not without retro value, but there are far worse Sox uniforms to choose from. The collars, the red pinstripes (not so much aesthetically, but come on, red?)
The red pinstripes were crazy cool, for about five minutes. Even worse were the road uniforms: baby blue with red trim (mercy!). And because the Sox logo was on a red hat, casual observers tend to mistake it for a Boston hat.

http://prosportsmemorabilia.com/Images/Product/33-24/33-24611-P.jpg

russ99
08-03-2006, 01:17 PM
The red pinstripes were crazy cool, for about five minutes. Even worse were the road uniforms: baby blue with red trim (mercy!). And because the Sox logo was on a red hat, casual observers tend to mistake it for a Boston hat.

http://prosportsmemorabilia.com/Images/Product/33-24/33-24611-P.jpg

I still think the early 70s red threads are crazy cool! Well OK - at least, retro cool.

And I got that Boston remark a lot wearing that hat (My "A" hat) during last season's playoffs. Seriously annoying, especially while they were playing Boston.

Baby Fisk
08-03-2006, 01:20 PM
And I got that Boston remark a lot wearing that hat (My "A" hat) during last season's playoffs. Seriously annoying, especially while they were playing Boston.
Same thing happened to me, same time, in Chicago. I went nuts on the person. Those were tense days!

batmanZoSo
08-03-2006, 01:20 PM
The red pinstripes were crazy cool, for about five minutes. Even worse were the road uniforms: baby blue with red trim (mercy!). And because the Sox logo was on a red hat, casual observers tend to mistake it for a Boston hat.

http://prosportsmemorabilia.com/Images/Product/33-24/33-24611-P.jpg

And even though I criticize them, I'd still love to have the jersey shown above. There's something intriguing about a Sox jersey with actual color in it. Great to wear in the bleachers, not so much on the field put it that way.

Hitmen77
08-03-2006, 01:30 PM
Right here on the site.

http://whitesoxinteractive.com/images/Uniforms/81Fans.jpg

These are from the Guide to Uniforms article found at the bottom of the home page.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=3&id=2104

My question is, what guidelines were given to fans in submitting uniform proposals? I can only guess:

Only designed that are based on the Houston Astros' ugly-ass uniforms will be accepted for this contest.:dunno:


Is there anyone here who submitted an entry or knows someone who submitted an entry for this contest?


I agree with ESPN, those early 80s unis were AWFUL. The only thing I could say positive about them is that they were actually an improvement over the late 70s pajama uniforms.

Foulke You
08-03-2006, 01:31 PM
I'm surprised these uniforms got spared in the article:

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/2004Halloffameinductions/MolitorPaul/Images/MolitorPaul-Brewers-78-001.jpg

batmanZoSo
08-03-2006, 01:33 PM
My question is, what guidelines were given to fans in submitting uniform proposals? I can only guess:

Only designed that are based on the Houston Astros' ugly-ass uniforms will be accepted for this contest.:dunno:


Is there anyone here who submitted an entry or knows someone who submitted an entry for this contest?


I agree with ESPN, those early 80s unis were AWFUL. The only thing I could say positive about them is that they were actually an improvement over the late 70s pajama uniforms.

Basically. The objective was clearly to make something as ultra modern and gaudy as possible and even the ones they settled on were Astros inspired.

Foulke You
08-03-2006, 01:34 PM
holy crap and idea where one can find them?
There is also a photograph of the 5 different uniforms being modeled by diffrent players during a game. If I remember right, Greg Walker was in the photo. The pic can be found in the "WHITE SOX ENCYCLOPEDIA" by Rich Lindberg. If I remember when I get home from work, I'll try to scan it and post it here.

The Racehorse
08-03-2006, 01:35 PM
:worship:

No one knew how to dress in the 80's.

The White Sox looked bad
The Astros looked awful
The Red Sox looked like that ironed their name to their shirts
Angels looked as if they were a little league team
and don't get my started on KC

LOL :cool:

TDog
08-03-2006, 01:54 PM
When I started following the Sox in the late 1960s, I loved the uniforms. I was disappointed to hear they were changing, but I loved the red pinstripes. At the time some people complained they were too conservative. The road uniforms made the previous road uniforms look like old Civil War uniforms. They capture that wonderful summer of 1972 that held so much promise. Bill Veeck came back and said he was going to improve them, upset that the Sox were wearing red. When I saw the picture of the new uniforms on the front page of the Tribune sports section (black and white did justice to the image), I was disappointed, but grew to sort of like them. A few years later, living in Arizona, I saw the Sox wearing new uniforms and considered them an improvement. I never understood the thing the caps with the funny-looking C that followed.

Fortunately the Sox found a classic uniform style. I hope they stick with it.

This subject comes up occasionally. I don't think the 1983 uniform is even the worst Sox uniform I've ever seen.

Baby Fisk
08-03-2006, 01:57 PM
And even though I criticize them, I'd still love to have the jersey shown above.
Numerous people on this board share that sentiment. The baby blue Dick Allen jersey pops up on eBay once in a while.

35th&Shields
08-03-2006, 02:04 PM
I love those jerseys!

easily my favorites.

I'm partial to the 1959 ones. I was very please when in 1990 and they announced the "new" uniforms that they were influenced by the 1959 uniforms.

ewokpelts
08-03-2006, 02:06 PM
Right here on the site.

http://whitesoxinteractive.com/images/Uniforms/81Fans.jpg

These are from the Guide to Uniforms article found at the bottom of the home page.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=3&id=2104there's a photo of the finalists unis from a game in 81.....

35th&Shields
08-03-2006, 02:16 PM
She may be skanky, but Christina disagrees that these are the ugliest uniforms.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/gallery/data/9/xtina.jpg

vegyrex
08-03-2006, 02:24 PM
Right here on the site.

http://whitesoxinteractive.com/images/Uniforms/81Fans.jpg

These are from the Guide to Uniforms article found at the bottom of the home page.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=3&id=2104
If that sketch with the red pants had won, I'd have no problem voting for it as the worst uniform EVER!!

The uniform the Sox have now are by the best since the end of the GO GO era.

Britt Burns
08-03-2006, 02:25 PM
I don't see how anyone could think the '82-'86 unis were worse than the pj tops they replaced. Those were truly awful.

Baby Fisk
08-03-2006, 02:31 PM
I don't see how anyone could think the '82-'86 unis were worse than the pj tops they replaced. Those were truly awful.
The concept for those uniforms was brilliant (Veeck re-introducing the 1906 jerseys as a brand new "throwback"), but the execution was flawed. They could have done without the floppy collars and tucked the jerseys in. That would have looked better than what they ended up with. In the photo below, it's hard to see the floppy collar. Picture that jersey with a regular V-neck or crew neck jersey, and it would have been less outlandish.

http://www.cheap-throwbacks-jerseys.com/carlton-fisk-dark.gif

batmanZoSo
08-03-2006, 02:35 PM
The concept for those uniforms was brilliant (Veeck re-introducing the 1906 jerseys as a brand new "throwback"), but the execution was flawed. They could have done without the floppy collars and tucked the jerseys in. That would have looked better than what they ended up with. In the photo below, it's hard to see the floppy collar. Picture that jersey with a regular V-neck or crew neck jersey, and it would have been less outlandish.

http://www.cheap-throwbacks-jerseys.com/carlton-fisk-dark.gif

I agree, the colors and general layout are great. What makes them bad is how they wore them. Those would be outstanding if done in a standard uniform style. The blue alternate shirt and home white with piping. That would look pretty sweet. Just no blue on blue...

Baby Fisk
08-03-2006, 03:04 PM
I agree, the colors and general layout are great. What makes them bad is how they wore them. Those would be outstanding if done in a standard uniform style. The blue alternate shirt and home white with piping. That would look pretty sweet. Just no blue on blue...
A brilliant road alternate would be navy jerseys and pants in the modern cut, buttoned jersey with that ol' style CHICAGO font across the front. No stirrups whatsoever, just plain white socks. Most players would wear the pants down to the shoes anyway, but for the Podsedniks and Credes who like to flash a little hosiery, they would expose their white socks. Not sure what the hats would be, tho. Either plain white with navy stripes and bills, or perhaps a navy hat with the current Sox logo in white, or maybe the sock-in-a-diamond logo in white. *eyes go wide and excited* :wired:

Lip Man 1
08-03-2006, 03:13 PM
If the Uni Watch thinks those Sox uniforms are one of the three 'ugliest' then they haven't done a lot of searching.

Please...

:rolleyes:

Lip

downstairs
08-03-2006, 03:14 PM
there's a photo of the finalists unis from a game in 81.....


Anyone have any idea where to find this (on the Net?)

I'd love to see this photo.

miker
08-03-2006, 03:44 PM
Oh geez, ESPN finds another way to rip the White Sox! When are they going to get out of their mommy's basement in Bristol and get real jobs?

LongLiveFisk
08-03-2006, 03:53 PM
Right here on the site.

http://whitesoxinteractive.com/images/Uniforms/81Fans.jpg

These are from the Guide to Uniforms article found at the bottom of the home page.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=3&id=2104

Wow....was this uniform design contest open to only those 14 and younger? :o:

Baby Fisk
08-03-2006, 03:55 PM
Wow....was this uniform design contest open to only those 14 and younger? :o:
...and their uncles had to be named Reinsdorf or Einhorn.

whitesoxfan1986
08-03-2006, 03:55 PM
I love those jerseys!

easily my favorites.

Me too, why all the hate for those unis?

LongLiveFisk
08-03-2006, 04:07 PM
Me too, why all the hate for those unis?

Well, for me personally, I knew they would be just another temporary, flash-in-the-pan uniform designed for the times. I wanted the Sox to get away from that mentality and look at their uniform as sort of being their IDENTITY, like the Yanks, Red Sox, etc (even though those teams tinkered with minor things in their uniforms during the years, nothing major though).

We finally have that uniform and I hope it stays forever.

SouthSide_HitMen
08-03-2006, 04:07 PM
I loved the 1970s uniforms, hated the 1980s (the Einhorn cap was the worst) uniforms and love the current uniforms.

Looking at the older uniforms (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=3&id=2104) I like the first three decades of Sox garb. I did not like the 1930s or 1940s uniforms as well as the 1964 or 1969 versions.

My Rankings (for teams I was alive and able to watch):

1. 1976-1981 Home - White tops with the dark collar and black pants
2. 1971-1975 Road - Powder Blue Road Uniforms
3. Current Home Uniforms
4. Current Gray Road Uniforms.

Best Uniforms in franchise history - the 1950s home version.

IronFisk
08-03-2006, 04:07 PM
Dunno, I actually liked those mid-80's duds. Yeah, they do remind me of softball uni's, but they were fun. Did help the image to win the division in 83.

hold2dibber
08-03-2006, 04:55 PM
If that sketch with the red pants had won, I'd have no problem voting for it as the worst uniform EVER!!

I think any of the 3 would have been been suitable for that title! Ick.

Scottzilla
08-03-2006, 05:07 PM
espn sucks!

esbrechtel
08-03-2006, 05:09 PM
i think there is a man law about the ammount of time one can discuss uniforms....i think this thread has surpassed it...

MDF3530
08-03-2006, 05:39 PM
I liked those uni's. Better than the ones they wore after them. Remember the blue script "White Sox" with the red trim and the cursive "C" on the hat? Yeecch :puking:!!!

I want Mags back
08-03-2006, 07:38 PM
Everyone knows those are ugly, but we won with them, so we like them:D:

StatHead21
08-03-2006, 07:41 PM
Those are bad but theres worse, KC? Brewers? How about the Devil Rays inaugural uni's or the Reds when they had the white hats at home?

The Dude
08-03-2006, 08:52 PM
I luv wearing the 1983 hats, both home and road. The home one was so ugly you have to be some kind of tough guy to get away with wearing it. That's what I keep telling myself.

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/200000/204500/204512/Products/7531287.jpg
So bad it's good.
So wrong it's right.
So sick it's dope.
So, uh, flash it's, um... word? :?:

A buddy of mine just got one of those thats from a fellow manager from his lone-star company that is originally from Boston.

The story went, the guy bought the hat and wore it around for a while until my buddy questioned why he was wearing a White Sox hat when he's a fan of the other Sox. The guy claimed the hat was from the late 70s Boston Red Sox and my buddy obviously called him out on it. Feeling dumb, he just handed it over!:redneck

The Dude
08-03-2006, 08:53 PM
Personally I love the 82-86 jersey's and own a team one myself. They may be crazy looking but still look damn good in a retro fashion.

soxinem1
08-03-2006, 08:54 PM
I've always liked those uniforms. But I may be biased; I like all the Sox uniforms.

I loved those uniforms! They also had a great winning percentage!!!!

ChiSox14305635
08-04-2006, 12:55 AM
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/exhibits/online_exhibits/dressed_to_the_nines/images/nl_1982_sandiego.gif

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/exhibits/online_exhibits/dressed_to_the_nines/images/nl_1980_pittsburgh.gif

Yup, definitely the Sox. :tongue:

PKalltheway
08-04-2006, 01:54 AM
82-86 Sox uniforms were indeed UGLY, but they aren't among the worst. I know one thing; the current Toronto Blue Jays uniforms are among the ugliest I have EVER seen. BTW, have the Jays finally ditched their ugly gray cap?

Hitmen77
08-04-2006, 07:59 AM
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/exhibits/online_exhibits/dressed_to_the_nines/images/nl_1982_sandiego.gif

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/exhibits/online_exhibits/dressed_to_the_nines/images/nl_1980_pittsburgh.gif

Yup, definitely the Sox. :tongue:


:?: Ummm, the Padres unis you posted are one of ESPN's finalists too.

And, I'm sorry, I like the White Sox as much as anyone, but those Pirates unis, while ugly, are not as ugly as the early 80 Sox uniforms. If they had changed PIRATES to big, gaudy, bold block letters across the chest and then arranged the colors in horizontal bands, then I'd agree with you.

Hitmen77
08-04-2006, 08:10 AM
Right here on the site.

http://whitesoxinteractive.com/images/Uniforms/81Fans.jpg

These are from the Guide to Uniforms article found at the bottom of the home page.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=3&id=2104

I have heard Reinsdorf and Einhorn in recent years blame the "fan design" process for the ugly uniforms. They cite the above picture and say "you should have seen our other choices."

I just don't believe that excuse. Did the Sox only get four submittals for uniform designs? I really doubt it. Some panel (obviously filled with people with no taste) must have selected the final four from many other entries.

Regardless, the Sox more than made up for this travesty of a uniform by going to the current design in 1990.

ode to veeck
08-04-2006, 08:29 AM
Thinking back on it, maybe those unis were why Doug Radar made his famous last words about the Sox heading into the pennant stretch in '83: "the Sox, oh, they're Winning Ugly (and won't be there)" , prompting the fun UG-LIE chants in the stands throughout Sept as the Sox cruised. I never thought that Radar might have been refering to the truely ugly uniforms the Sox switched to after Reinsy took over. I still love the shorts that Veeck briefly experimented with a few years earlier.

ode to veeck
08-04-2006, 08:31 AM
:?: Ummm, the Padres unis you posted are one of ESPN's finalists too.

And, I'm sorry, I like the White Sox as much as anyone, but those Pirates unis, while ugly, are not as ugly as the early 80 Sox uniforms. If they had changed PIRATES to big, gaudy, bold block letters across the chest and then arranged the colors in horizontal bands, then I'd agree with you.

The Pirates unis were actually cool in the context of the time of their introduction, a semi-throw back to earlier styles, especially the caps, whereas the Sox 80s revised duds were horrendous from their introduction

batmanZoSo
08-04-2006, 08:36 AM
I have heard Reinsdorf and Einhorn in recent years blame the "fan design" process for the ugly uniforms. They cite the above picture and say "you should have seen our other choices."

I just don't believe that excuse. Did the Sox only get four submittals for uniform designs? I really doubt it. Some panel (obviously filled with people with no taste) must have selected the final four from many other entries.

Regardless, the Sox more than made up for this travesty of a uniform by going to the current design in 1990.
I don't see why there's reason to "blame" anybody. I see those 1983 jerseys in hordes at every game I go to and it's been that way for four years now. And last I checked they were about 150 bucks for that thick, hot piece of red and blue polyester. I'd say that was a pretty good mistake.

In defense of the 83 uniforms, pretty much all teams (that regularly have uniform changes [LA, NY etc. being exceptions]) wore some pretty forgettable stuff in the 80s. At least the Sox went all the way and have the most memorable uniform of the decade. The uniforms that followed it were more in line with other teams from that era, bland and trying to be "classic" but failing miserably.

Hitmen77
08-04-2006, 09:03 AM
I don't see why there's reason to "blame" anybody. I see those 1983 jerseys in hordes at every game I go to and it's been that way for four years now. And last I checked they were about 150 bucks for that thick, hot piece of red and blue polyester. I'd say that was a pretty good mistake.

In defense of the 83 uniforms, pretty much all teams (that regularly have uniform changes [LA, NY etc. being exceptions]) wore some pretty forgettable stuff in the 80s. At least the Sox went all the way and have the most memorable uniform of the decade. The uniforms that followed it were more in line with other teams from that era, bland and trying to be "classic" but failing miserably.

I was merely paraphrasing White Sox ownership regarding "blame". Jerry and Eddie have made these comments themselves regarding these uniforms.

All the money for MLB merchadise goes to the league, not to the White Sox. And if the 80s style didn't exist, those people would be spending 150 bucks on some other style uniform. I really doubt all those people only spent $150 because of their deep love of that uniform and would have otherwise not spent a dime on Sox merchandise.

LongLiveFisk
08-04-2006, 09:14 AM
I was merely paraphrasing White Sox ownership regarding "blame". Jerry and Eddie have made these comments themselves regarding these uniforms.

All the money for MLB merchadise goes to the league, not to the White Sox. And if the 80s style didn't exist, those people would be spending 150 bucks on some other style uniform. I really doubt all those people only spent $150 because of their deep love of that uniform and would have otherwise not spent a dime on Sox merchandise.

Oh, I agree but here's an interesting thought too: those '83 unis are classic to Sox fans also because of the team that came along with them. On the flipside, the '87-'90 unis are also retro but they have not been embraced in the same way. I think it manily as to do with the fact that the Sox were terrible during these yrs (except '90, but by then we knew the new unis were coming along with the new stadium the following year.) :smile:

35th&Shields
08-04-2006, 09:16 AM
Oh, I agree but here's an interesting thought too: those '83 unis are classic to Sox fans also because of the team that came along with them.

That would make sense. For people who were born in the late 70's or early 80's, those are the uniforms they first remember. Now that they are in the late 20's or early 30's, that's what they are spending their "retro dollars" on.

batmanZoSo
08-04-2006, 09:16 AM
I was merely paraphrasing White Sox ownership regarding "blame". Jerry and Eddie have made these comments themselves regarding these uniforms.

All the money for MLB merchadise goes to the league, not to the White Sox. And if the 80s style didn't exist, those people would be spending 150 bucks on some other style uniform. I really doubt all those people only spent $150 because of their deep love of that uniform and would have otherwise not spent a dime on Sox merchandise.

What? That's like saying it does McDonald's no good to offer a chicken sandwich, or breakfast, in addition to regular hamburgers...

batmanZoSo
08-04-2006, 09:18 AM
Oh, I agree but here's an interesting thought too: those '83 unis are classic to Sox fans also because of the team that came along with them. On the flipside, the '87-'90 unis are also retro but they have not been embraced in the same way. I think it manily as to do with the fact that the Sox were terrible during these yrs (except '90, but by then we knew the new unis were coming along with the new stadium the following year.) :smile:

Yeah, I'm sure Puff Daddy and Christina Aguilera wear retro Sox gear because of their fondness for the 83 team.

Railsplitter
08-04-2006, 09:34 AM
ESPN.com must not realize how popular the throwbacks of those jersey are across America. They're a modern classic. For the whole article hit the link.

1. Chicago White Sox, 1982-86.
It's tough to know where to start with the Chisox. Do you poke fun at their wide-collared pajama tops from the '70s? Or at the uni number on the left pant leg from the late '80s? (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/060803)

82-86 oufits. :redface:

ewokpelts
08-04-2006, 11:42 AM
Oh, I agree but here's an interesting thought too: those '83 unis are classic to Sox fans also because of the team that came along with them. On the flipside, the '87-'90 unis are also retro but they have not been embraced in the same way. I think it manily as to do with the fact that the Sox were terrible during these yrs (except '90, but by then we knew the new unis were coming along with the new stadium the following year.) :smile:the same way pirates fans dig the 79 uniform...cuz it was worn by a world champion.....

ewokpelts
08-04-2006, 11:43 AM
I was merely paraphrasing White Sox ownership regarding "blame". Jerry and Eddie have made these comments themselves regarding these uniforms.

All the money for MLB merchadise goes to the league, not to the White Sox. And if the 80s style didn't exist, those people would be spending 150 bucks on some other style uniform. I really doubt all those people only spent $150 because of their deep love of that uniform and would have otherwise not spent a dime on Sox merchandise.dude, the merchandise money is divided between all 30 teams.....

LongLiveFisk
08-04-2006, 12:28 PM
the same way pirates fans dig the 79 uniform...cuz it was worn by a world champion.....

Yep

LongLiveFisk
08-04-2006, 12:29 PM
Yeah, I'm sure Puff Daddy and Christina Aguilera wear retro Sox gear because of their fondness for the 83 team.

I'm referring to why Sox fans wear them. I don't give a crap why those dopes wear them.

C-Dawg
08-04-2006, 12:32 PM
I liked those uni's. Better than the ones they wore after them. Remember the blue script "White Sox" with the red trim and the cursive "C" on the hat?

A while back I remember someone posted their opinion on those uniforms - they "looked like the type of generic uniforms you'd get by calling up the manufacturer and saying you wanted some uniforms - just something basic, with the name White Sox on them - no other specifics".

I had to agree. While they ARE decent looking, they are rather generic.

monkeypants
08-04-2006, 12:47 PM
A brilliant road alternate would be navy jerseys and pants in the modern cut, buttoned jersey with that ol' style CHICAGO font across the front. No stirrups whatsoever, just plain white socks. Most players would wear the pants down to the shoes anyway, but for the Podsedniks and Credes who like to flash a little hosiery, they would expose their white socks. Not sure what the hats would be, tho. Either plain white with navy stripes and bills, or perhaps a navy hat with the current Sox logo in white, or maybe the sock-in-a-diamond logo in white. *eyes go wide and excited* :wired:

Easy there Mr. Blackwell. Step away from the sewing machine and take a little breather outside of the habidashery.

batmanZoSo
08-04-2006, 12:55 PM
I'm referring to why Sox fans wear them. I don't give a crap why those dopes wear them.

The point is they're buying it for a reason. And most of the Sox fans you see wearing them were in diapers during the 83 season. I owned an 83 cap because it's a damn fine retro cap.

Baby Fisk
08-04-2006, 02:05 PM
82-86 Sox uniforms were indeed UGLY, but they aren't among the worst. I know one thing; the current Toronto Blue Jays uniforms are among the ugliest I have EVER seen. BTW, have the Jays finally ditched their ugly gray cap?
Yes, but it didn't help much. The uniforms are still pathetic.

Baby Fisk
08-04-2006, 02:06 PM
Easy there Mr. Blackwell. Step away from the sewing machine and take a little breather outside of the habidashery.
Some day my brilliance will be recognized.

batmanZoSo
08-04-2006, 02:26 PM
Some day my brilliance will be recognized.
I thought your plan was really cool. :redface: teehehehehe

JohnBasedowYoda
08-04-2006, 02:51 PM
Yeah, these were pretty bad, IMO. Too much like softball uniforms. But they're sort of fun now just as a retro thing.

You're right they're fun as a retro thing. The retro's are different though, i.e. they're not as tight as the old ones for the players were. They made them loose fitting in a way. I have a medium and I swim in that thing.

ewokpelts
08-04-2006, 02:55 PM
Yes, but it didn't help much. The uniforms are still pathetic.the 97-2002 jerseys were great.....just a slight update from the old skool uni....

TheDarkGundam
08-04-2006, 02:59 PM
The point is they're buying it for a reason. And most of the Sox fans you see wearing them were in diapers during the 83 season. I owned an 83 cap because it's a damn fine retro cap.
I wasn't even born yet in 1983, but I still always wear my Sox hat with the block-letter logo from the 80's and I have one of these 82'-86' jerseys.
I like 'em cause they're so radically different from anything that was ever worn before or after that. Are they ugly? Yeah, they're really ugly, but they're still cool.

batmanZoSo
08-04-2006, 03:07 PM
You're right they're fun as a retro thing. The retro's are different though, i.e. they're not as tight as the old ones for the players were. They made them loose fitting in a way. I have a medium and I swim in that thing.

I blame Puff Daddy.

LongLiveFisk
08-04-2006, 03:07 PM
I wasn't even born yet in 1983, but I still always wear my Sox hat with the block-letter logo from the 80's and I have one of these 82'-86' jerseys.
I like 'em cause they're so radically different from anything that was ever worn before or after that. Are they ugly? Yeah, they're really ugly, but they're still cool.

That's another reason they're popular....ugly clothes are "in" right now. :cool:

Brian26
08-04-2006, 03:22 PM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/gallery/data/2/Dscn0293.jpg

Baby Fisk
08-04-2006, 03:56 PM
Appalling. :o:

RadioheadRocks
08-04-2006, 04:14 PM
I liked those uni's. Better than the ones they wore after them. Remember the blue script "White Sox" with the red trim and the cursive "C" on the hat? Yeecch :puking:!!!

You're right about those caps! "Mmmmmm mmmmmm good, Mmmmmm mmmmmm good..." :D:

LongLiveFisk
08-04-2006, 04:15 PM
LOL...talk about trying to copy the Astros' rainbow look!! :redneck (the 2nd one from the right).

LongLiveFisk
08-04-2006, 04:16 PM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/gallery/data/2/Dscn0293.jpg

If I had voted back then, I would have asked where the "none of the above" option was. :o:

EDIT: Note to whoever told me that the other uniform options were worse than the one they picked: I'm so sorry I doubted you!

NardiWasHere
08-04-2006, 09:01 PM
I gotta tell you guys.... worst baseball uniform I can think of has to be the Cubs Uni with cursive lettering that looked like the Cuban National team.... I'm not just saying this to poke fun at them, I seriously remember those as being horrible.... these are the best pictures I can find.... Which is which team?

http://i3.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/ba/0a/55_2.JPG

http://www.latinosports.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000002/cuba02.jpg

TommyJohn
08-04-2006, 09:09 PM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/gallery/data/2/Dscn0293.jpg


Those are sriously the most hideous uniforms I have ever seen. What the hell were Jerry and Eddie thinking? Of course, if anyone back then had suggested a return to the old 50's and 60's pinstripes, the answer would've been a resounding "no."

83 ALROY
08-04-2006, 10:30 PM
I fell in love with the Sox in 83, so I'll always have a fondness for those jerseys. However, the number on the pant leg is ridiculous.

The Padres uniforms at that time are clearly the worst. What kind of color scheme is brown and yellow? Were they inspired by Bowie Kuhn's* underwear?


* Bowie Kuhn - MLB commissioner 1969-1984, crusty old man

hi im skot
08-04-2006, 11:19 PM
You're right they're fun as a retro thing. The retro's are different though, i.e. they're not as tight as the old ones for the players were. They made them loose fitting in a way. I have a medium and I swim in that thing.

What size jersey do you usually wear? I was thinking about an '85 jersey on ebay, but I'd like to know if the sizes of these Majestic throwbacks are consistent with the "modern" jerseys...

hsnterprize
08-05-2006, 01:48 AM
I wasn't even born yet in 1983,

Whoa!!! We've got some young ones on this board. I was 11 years old when Julio Cruz scored the game-winning run the night the Sox, wearing the ugliest uniforms according to ESPN, clinched the American League Western Division. That's why that uniform means something to me.

If I had the money, I'd get me one of those UGLY jersey, and show it off to the fashion and sports experts at ESPN.

Nellie_Fox
08-05-2006, 02:02 AM
Whoa!!! We've got some young ones on this board. I was 11 years old when Julio Cruz scored the game-winning run the night the Sox, wearing the ugliest uniforms according to ESPN, clinched the American League Western Division. That's why that uniform means something to me.

If I had the money, I'd get me one of those UGLY jersey, and show it off to the fashion and sports experts at ESPN.I was 34. I was very happy when the Sox won the division, but that doesn't change one thing. That uniform wasn't just ugly, it was fugly.

HerzogVon
08-05-2006, 08:17 AM
I liked those uni's. Better than the ones they wore after them. Remember the blue script "White Sox" with the red trim and the cursive "C" on the hat? Yeecch :puking:!!!

Yeah, those hats looked like Hostess cupcakes! I still think the worst were the '69 uniforms with the royal blue hats. They made us look like an anemic shadow of the Crubs, which was the last thing we needed.

Really loved those red and white pinstripes of the 70s, although the road version never worked. ( Red on powder blue? Uh, uh! ) As someone else pointed out, they do bring back that magical time of 1972. I can still see Dick Allen and Bill Melton in those. The image of the former swinging that black bat is almost iconic. Next best are the "59 unis - they had red pinstriping, too - followed closely by what we have now.

JohnBasedowYoda
08-05-2006, 10:19 AM
What size jersey do you usually wear? I was thinking about an '85 jersey on ebay, but I'd like to know if the sizes of these Majestic throwbacks are consistent with the "modern" jerseys...

On second thought I have a large. I have the one with the 75th anniversary of Comiskey on it. Large is big for me

Yodafit

MILTMAY5
08-05-2006, 11:14 AM
When I started following the Sox in the late 1960s, I loved the uniforms. I was disappointed to hear they were changing, but I loved the red pinstripes. At the time some people complained they were too conservative. The road uniforms made the previous road uniforms look like old Civil War uniforms. They capture that wonderful summer of 1972 that held so much promise. Bill Veeck came back and said he was going to improve them, upset that the Sox were wearing red. When I saw the picture of the new uniforms on the front page of the Tribune sports section (black and white did justice to the image), I was disappointed, but grew to sort of like them. A few years later, living in Arizona, I saw the Sox wearing new uniforms and considered them an improvement. I never understood the thing the caps with the funny-looking C that followed.

Fortunately the Sox found a classic uniform style. I hope they stick with it.

This subject comes up occasionally. I don't think the 1983 uniform is even the worst Sox uniform I've ever seen.The 1969-70 uniforms are by far the worst in White Sox history! At least the Veeck uniforms fron 1976-1981 had some imagination, they were the original throwbacks!

Procol Harum
08-05-2006, 11:49 AM
The 82-85 uniforms were terrible--particularly in the bright whites at home with the "home hat" with the white front panel--yecccchhhh. For that matter, the whole era of double-knit unis and pullover tops in the 70s and 80s was a uniform disaster.

The SOX jerseys look a lot better as an old-school, retro fashion statement in the stands on the fans than they did as an entire ensemble on the players...

TheKittle
08-05-2006, 02:15 PM
The 82-85 uniforms were terrible--particularly in the bright whites at home with the "home hat" with the white front panel--yecccchhhh. For that matter, the whole era of double-knit unis and pullover tops in the 70s and 80s was a uniform disaster.

The SOX jerseys look a lot better as an old-school, retro fashion statement in the stands on the fans than they did as an entire ensemble on the players...

While the White Sox may have come late to the style party, the white front panel was a 70's staple. The Baltimore Orioles, Atlanta Braves, Toronto Blue Jays, Seattle Mariners, Montreal Expos, and the Twins wore caps and/or helmets with the white front panel. The Brewers and Padres had front yellow panels. Most of those teams wore those front panel caps well into the 80's. I think the Braves and Twins went to a solid color caps by the 80's.

batmanZoSo
08-05-2006, 02:21 PM
The 82-85 uniforms were terrible--particularly in the bright whites at home with the "home hat" with the white front panel--yecccchhhh. For that matter, the whole era of double-knit unis and pullover tops in the 70s and 80s was a uniform disaster.

The SOX jerseys look a lot better as an old-school, retro fashion statement in the stands on the fans than they did as an entire ensemble on the players...

Exactly. Great fan gear, not a good uniform. But great fan gear. :smile:

MDF3530
08-05-2006, 03:55 PM
A while back I remember someone posted their opinion on those uniforms - they "looked like the type of generic uniforms you'd get by calling up the manufacturer and saying you wanted some uniforms - just something basic, with the name White Sox on them - no other specifics".

I had to agree. While they ARE decent looking, they are rather generic.To me, it looked like they were trying to rip off the Dodgers' or Athletics' unis, but wanted to make it look like they weren't doing it deliberately.

Brian26
08-05-2006, 04:15 PM
Those '87-'90 uniforms have a great story attached to them. If you go back and look at photos of the '87 and '88 teams, you'll notice all of the players were wearing their pants higher and the socks were showing. This wasn't always the case. The players orginally were pulling their pant legs down to cover up the stripes on the socks, and Larry Himes forced the team to start wearing the pants/socks so at least a couple of the horizontal stripes would show on the socks. Sometime in late '88 or early '89, Himes backed off on this policy after the players were complaining. I think the stripes on the socks actually spiced up the rather bland uniforms though.

Here's what the uniforms looked like for the 1989 season (notice the socks):

http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesplayers/thigpen.jpg

Here's Walker in the road uniform from '88, I think (notice the other difference...the '87 and '88 unis still had the number on the pants):

http://www.grandstandsports.com/images/7957.jpg

batmanZoSo
08-05-2006, 04:26 PM
Those '87-'90 uniforms have a great story attached to them. If you go back and look at photos of the '87 and '88 teams, you'll notice all of the players were wearing their pants higher and the socks were showing. This wasn't always the case. The players orginally were pulling their pant legs down to cover up the stripes on the socks, and Larry Himes forced the team to start wearing the pants/socks so at least a couple of the horizontal stripes would show on the socks. Sometime in late '88 or early '89, Himes backed off on this policy after the players were complaining. I think the stripes on the socks actually spiced up the rather bland uniforms though.

Here's what the uniforms looked like for the 1989 season (notice the socks):

http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesplayers/thigpen.jpg

Here's Walker in the road uniform from '88, I think (notice the other difference...the '87 and '88 unis still had the number on the pants):

http://www.grandstandsports.com/images/7957.jpg

I never knew that, wow.

Yeah, those kind of throwback socks weren't cool in the 80s. It was all about being modern back then. Some time later a few Red Sox players would sport funky socks like that.

I remember Ozzie had the black socks with one red stripe on one of them.

Brian26
08-05-2006, 04:30 PM
I remember Ozzie had the black socks with one red stripe on one of them.

Wow, he even did it when he was with the Braves:
http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/mlb/1999/1024/photo/a_ozzie.jpg

And with the Sox:

http://i8.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/7d/38/81_1.JPGhttp://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/chisox/GuillenCWS2.JPG

batmanZoSo
08-05-2006, 04:46 PM
Wow, he even did it when he was with the Braves:
http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/mlb/1999/1024/photo/a_ozzie.jpg

And with the Sox:

http://i8.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/7d/38/81_1.JPGhttp://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/chisox/GuillenCWS2.JPG

Ha. Yep. Where did he get that? Is it a separate piece or did he have it custom made? *** Ozzie. :?:

TornLabrum
08-05-2006, 04:54 PM
That wasn't a stripe. It was a knee brace.

Brian26
08-05-2006, 05:04 PM
That wasn't a stripe. It was a knee brace.

Whether it was a knee-brace, sock, tights, or a piece of electrical tape, it's a red-stripe that he obviously made sure that everyone saw on his uniform every day, including a run with the Braves. The reasoning he chose to do this is what's interesting. He could have easily covered the rest of it up by pulling his pant leg down.

Nellie_Fox
08-06-2006, 01:31 AM
I think I'm the one who said the generic, script White Sox uniforms looked like someone just called a uniform supplier and said "we have a team called the White Sox. Send us some uniforms."

I stand by that, but for those who are fans of throwbacks, those are very obscure throwbacks, one year in 1942:
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/exhibits/online_exhibits/dressed_to_the_nines/images/al_1942_chicago_01.gif

LongLiveFisk
08-06-2006, 08:56 AM
What size jersey do you usually wear? I was thinking about an '85 jersey on ebay, but I'd like to know if the sizes of these Majestic throwbacks are consistent with the "modern" jerseys...

I like the throwbacks but I'm a rather petite female and they are all HUGE. Whenever I see them on ebay, it's always XXL and even larger. I don't understand why they can't size these things with the entire popluation in mind.

aclaar877
08-08-2006, 09:58 AM
Yes, I'm biased because '83 was the first year I really followed Sox baseball, but I think that uniform was sharp, considering what everyone else wore. Almost every team at the time had bright color schemes, and about half the teams had awful blue-on-blue road uniforms. (Yes, I know the Sox had them a decade earlier.) Remember the Pirates yellow-on-yellow?

My vote would be for the 1975 Indians red-on-red scheme, that the team even wore for a throwback game a couple years ago.

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/exhibits/online_exhibits/dressed_to_the_nines/detail_page.asp?Entryid=1278&fileName=al_1975_cleveland.gif

miker
08-08-2006, 03:54 PM
I like the throwbacks but I'm a rather petite female and they are all HUGE. Whenever I see them on ebay, it's always XXL and even larger. I don't understand why they can't size these things with the entire popluation in mind.
As a rather non-petite male, I have the same concern...though from a totally different angle!

Nellie_Fox
08-09-2006, 12:22 AM
Yes, I'm biased because '83 was the first year I really followed Sox baseball, but I think that uniform was sharp...It simply has to be because it was the uniform when you first became a fan, because it was anything but "sharp." I didn't know a single Sox fan back then who liked that uniform. Today everybody wears the white-front '83 "throwback" cap, but back then most fans thought it was embarrassing. Personally, I only had a road cap to avoid being seen in that propeller beanie.