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doctorlecter
08-02-2006, 12:19 AM
Hawk touched upon it tonight, but Jenks and Thornton have a tendency to ALWAYS keep the ball down. That may be ideal for soft tossers, but guys with plus plus fastballs like them need to change the eye level of the hitter. This would make the breaking stuff (especially Jenks') incredibly effective.

ND_Sox_Fan
08-02-2006, 12:23 AM
You look at the two balls the Royals hit hard off of them tonight and they were both down - the double to Teahen and the HR to Berroa.

On the flip side, look at the success Riske had running his fastball up and in tonight.

IlliniSox4Life
08-02-2006, 12:26 AM
Uh, Jenks is a little off lately on his location. He doesn't have a tendency to always keep his stuff down. Look at him before the all star break and last season and he always throws the high heat.

voodoochile
08-02-2006, 12:30 AM
Uh, Jenks is a little off lately on his location. He doesn't have a tendency to always keep his stuff down. Look at him before the all star break and last season and he always throws the high heat.

Guys who throw that hard should be working up in the zone. It's the thigh high stuff that gets them in trouble, but a 99MPH chest high pitch is more likely to snap the bat and possibly the wrists of the guy swinging than it is to get driven out of the park. The most likely out come is a popup or a foul ball.

whitesoxwin
08-02-2006, 09:23 AM
High velocity pitchers should keep the ball up.
Again, most hitters will usually swing under a up-in-the-zone pitch....result pop-up or foul back, or even a swing through.
This makes the set-up for a change-up and sometimes a split-finger pitch (when he pitches down) better.
Jenks should throw his curve (the 90 mph variety) more--especially when he is facing high B.A. hitter.
That is one wicked pitch.

hawkjt
08-02-2006, 11:14 AM
it seems that Cotts has been hurt lately against leftys with his fastball down in the zone outer half. They have been taking it to left field.

I just think the power guys have to mix it up. Up and down.

KyWhiSoxFan
08-02-2006, 11:19 AM
I'd like to see Jenks keep his fastball up in the strike zone or inside and down. No one gets around on his fastball, particularly in. When he throws it down and away, it makes it easier for the hitter to just drop the bat head, swing late, and put it into play to the opposite field. How many hits do you ever see on Jenks that are pulled? They always seem to be to the opposite field or center. Throw the curve away.

IlliniSox4Life
08-02-2006, 02:26 PM
Guys who throw that hard should be working up in the zone. It's the thigh high stuff that gets them in trouble, but a 99MPH chest high pitch is more likely to snap the bat and possibly the wrists of the guy swinging than it is to get driven out of the park. The most likely out come is a popup or a foul ball.

I know that. My point was that they DO throw it high more often then not, it's just lately Jenks has been off on his location and not throwing it high. The original poster said Jenks ALWAYS throws it low, but that's not the case, look at earlier this season and last season and he ALWAYS threw it high.

Baby Fisk
08-02-2006, 02:29 PM
Jenks has given up 4 runs in his last 3 appearances.

kwolf68
08-02-2006, 02:36 PM
Jenks and Thornton have so much raw talent with freakish arms that even when they stink up the joint I just chalk it up to bad luck.

kitekrazy
08-03-2006, 02:17 AM
Jenks has given up 4 runs in his last 3 appearances.

Well they just don't want to be alone so they decided to be inconsistent with the rest of the Sox pitching staff. No holier than thous.

kitekrazy
08-03-2006, 02:17 AM
Jenks has given up 4 runs in his last 3 appearances.

Well they just don't want to be alone so they decided to be inconsistent with the rest of the Sox pitching staff. No holier than thous.

kitekrazy
08-03-2006, 02:18 AM
Jenks has given up 4 runs in his last 3 appearances.

Well they just don't want to be alone so they decided to be inconsistent with the rest of the Sox pitching staff. No holier than thous.