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Lip Man 1
07-30-2006, 12:28 PM
July 31st...an important day in the history of the franchise...both good and bad. I don't think we've ever had a day with five entries before!
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July 31, 1909- ‘Sleepy’ Bill Burns fires a one hitter defeating Walter Johnson and the Senators in Washington 1-0. If that name sounds familiar it’s because Burns would become one of the ring leaders in the plot to fix the World Series. It was he who had the idea of going to gambler Arnold Rothstein to get the financial backing to rig the White Sox - Reds World Series of 1919.


July 31, 1972- Another baseball rarity! Dick Allen’s magical season continued withtwo inside the park home runs in a single game. That tied the Major League record at that time. It was set in Minnesota at old Metropolitan Stadium as the Sox beat Bert Blyleven 8 - 1. Bobby Darwin was the Twins center fielder who misplayed both of Allen’s drives. Allen was credited with five RBI’s on the day.

July 31, 1991- The white hot White Sox cap off a sizzling month with one of the most dramatic moments in team history. The Sox trail the Rangers 8-6 going into the bottom of the 9th inning. Texas brings in former Sox pitcher "Goose" Gossage to close things out. But the goose gets cooked on this night as with two out, Robin Ventura hammers a grand slam into the right field stands winning the game 10-8. A full house, which included noted Cub fan Bill Murray, goes wild as Ventura is lifted up by massive Frank Thomas in a celebration hug at home plate.

July 31, 1996- The White Sox infuriate their fans and anger their own players by refusing to make any significant trade moves at the deadline, settling for Tony Castillo to try to help a bullpen that’s among the worst in baseball. In fact the 1996 White Sox would set the record (since broken) for most ‘blown’ save opportunities. The Sox were in the midst of blowing a substantial lead in the Wild Card race at the time. The following week, Sox players Roberto Hernandez and Tony Phillips rip the organization inThe Sporting News.

July 31, 1997- Perhaps the lowest point in the history of the Chicago White Sox franchise occurs as owner Jerry Reinsdorf issues his "anybody who thinks this club can catch Cleveland is crazy" comment and guts the team. Reinsdorf allows General Manager Ron Schueler to trade Wilson Alvarez, Roberto Hernandez and Danny Darwin to the Giants with the Sox only 3 ˝ games out of first. The Sox get back six minor league prospects. The "White Flag" trade results in catastrophic consequences for the team from an attendance and public relations standpoint both locally and nationally.

No team before had ever traded their top pitchers when they were only a few games off the lead. Joe Morgan goes on ESPN’s ‘Baseball Tonight’ and angrily denounces Sox management saying how sorry he felt "for the fans and the season ticket holders." Dave Campbell echoes those remarks. Sports Illustrated has the Sox "surrender" as their feature story and quotes both Alvarez and Hernandez as stating that when manager Terry Bevington told them they were traded he was "laughing." Many Sox fans never forgive Reinsdorf and refuse to ever attend games in person. Sox star Robin Ventura issues his famous"I didn’t know the season ended in August" quote.

Lip

miker
07-31-2006, 10:13 AM
The season doesn't end in August? Wouldn't know it from reading WSI's boards lately...

Once again Lip, great job keeping Sox history alive!

viagracat
07-31-2006, 10:17 AM
The season doesn't end in August? Wouldn't know it from reading WSI's boards lately...

Once again Lip, great job keeping Sox history alive!

I agree. These threads are always the first ones I click on when they come up in the Clubhouse. Always interesting and entertaining. :smile:

TheOldRoman
07-31-2006, 10:19 AM
:rolleyes:
Lip, you are talking about a franchise that threw a ****ing World Series. You think trading off a couple players was the lowest point in White Sox history? *****.

Lip Man 1
07-31-2006, 12:32 PM
Roman:

Reading is a skill.

"Perhaps the lowest point in the history of the Chicago White Sox franchise occurs as owner..."

Some say the "White Flag," some say "the Black Sox", some say "Disco Demolition"... there is no absolute 'worst.'

And if you don't care for the way I word these by all means feel free to get off your duffer, spend some time and write them yourself.

Lip

soxstarter
07-31-2006, 12:38 PM
Lip:

Thanks for the history. As someone who has only been a fan since the 2002 season, I love hearing this and catching up on my knowledge here.

Keep it coming!!!

TheOldRoman
07-31-2006, 12:56 PM
Roman:

Reading is a skill.

"Perhaps the lowest point in the history of the Chicago White Sox franchise occurs as owner..."

Some say the "White Flag," some say "the Black Sox", some say "Disco Demolition"... there is no absolute 'worst.'

And if you don't care for the way I word these by all means feel free to get off your duffer, spend some time and write them yourself.

Lip
Yeah, reading is a skill, and I read your post. How the hell is trading a few players anywhere close to THROWING A WORLD SERIES?!
Obviously, the WFT was a horrible event, but it wasn't anywhere close to the Black Sox scandal, except perhaps in your eyes. The Black Sox scandal nearly killed baseball. How many people outside of White Sox fans actually remember the ***? I would imagine very few.

Lip Man 1
07-31-2006, 01:07 PM
Roman:

Like I said anytime you want to take the time and start doing these by all means let me know and feel free to do so.

Lip

Britt Burns
07-31-2006, 02:10 PM
Roman:

Like I said anytime you want to take the time and start doing these by all means let me know and feel free to do so.

Lip

Don't stop, Lip! Love this series!

crazyozzie02
07-31-2006, 02:17 PM
i was only 10 when the "White Flag Trade" happened, and although i didnt understand the complexities of baseball fully at the time, i was devestated becasue i knew as much to know that they threw in the towel. It always reminds me when they just started shipping off Lofton, Durham, ect.

Dan H
07-31-2006, 06:35 PM
Lip you forgot July 31, 1977 when the Sox played KC. They only split the double header but won the first game on the strength of two Chet Lemon home runs in front of a crowd of over 50,000. The Sox ended the month of July with a 22-6 mark, the third best month in the history of the franchise. July 31, 1977 was the last high point of the decade. The Sox faded for the rest of the year and they stayed putrid for the rest of the decade.

Brian26
07-31-2006, 08:35 PM
July 31, 1991- The white hot White Sox cap off a sizzling month with one of the most dramatic moments in team history. The Sox trail the Rangers 8-6 going into the bottom of the 9th inning. Texas brings in former Sox pitcher "Goose" Gossage to close things out. But the goose gets cooked on this night as with two out, Robin Ventura hammers a grand slam into the right field stands winning the game 10-8. A full house, which included noted Cub fan Bill Murray, goes wild as Ventura is lifted up by massive Frank Thomas in a celebration hug at home plate.


Up until last year, this was one of my all-time favorite Sox moments. How about the bunt that Cora screwed up before Raines' at-bat? And before Cora batted, Fisk faced Gossage and popped up. And then Raines had a great at-bat to draw a walk to get Ventura up there.

TornLabrum
07-31-2006, 11:13 PM
Speaking of Terry Bevington (as Lip's initial post did), he was last seen a few weeks ago resigning his position as manager of the Edmonton Cracker Cats of the Northern League after getting an 8-game suspension for his role in a brawl between his team and the Calgary Vipers. His parting comment was that it would be good to get back to his wife and kids in Tennessee.

PeteWard
07-31-2006, 11:26 PM
Roman:

Reading is a skill.

"Perhaps the lowest point in the history of the Chicago White Sox franchise occurs as owner..."

Some say the "White Flag," some say "the Black Sox", some say "Disco Demolition"... there is no absolute 'worst.'

And if you don't care for the way I word these by all means feel free to get off your duffer, spend some time and write them yourself.

Lip

Great posts-- I love 'em.
For me the lowest point was the destruction of Comiskey and the threat to move to Tampa that accompanied it. I actually stopped following the Sox for a few years after going to my first game in 1964. The white flag was almost as infuriating.

PeteWard
07-31-2006, 11:32 PM
Lip you forgot July 31, 1977 when the Sox played KC. They only split the double header but won the first game on the strength of two Chet Lemon home runs in front of a crowd of over 50,000. The Sox ended the month of July with a 22-6 mark, the third best month in the history of the franchise. July 31, 1977 was the last high point of the decade. The Sox faded for the rest of the year and they stayed putrid for the rest of the decade.

I was at that DH and I think Richie Zisk went 0 for the double header --a terrible omen of things to come, as he and the pitching --which was never very tough--disappeared for the rest of the year. And KC was eminently hateable then, with some really obnoxious players and a homefield almost as sickening to play in as the monstrosity in Minny. Great year though. Harry and Jimmy were on the top of their professions then as well and were a joy to hear.

StatHead21
08-01-2006, 12:01 AM
Once again Lip, great job keeping Sox history alive!

Such a bad history though, 95-98 was painfully awful.

StillMissOzzie
08-01-2006, 01:56 AM
Yeah, reading is a skill, and I read your post. How the hell is trading a few players anywhere close to THROWING A WORLD SERIES?!
Obviously, the WFT was a horrible event, but it wasn't anywhere close to the Black Sox scandal, except perhaps in your eyes. The Black Sox scandal nearly killed baseball. How many people outside of White Sox fans actually remember the ***? I would imagine very few.

In all fairness to both Lip and TOR, the WFT may have been the worst White Sox management action, (although I agree with PeteWard that the threat to move to FL may also deserve some consideration), but the Black Sox scandal was certainly the worst player action imaginable. How's about we draw the line there?

SMO
:gulp:

HerzogVon
08-01-2006, 07:59 AM
Some odds and ends:

By 1977, Harry and Jimmy were well past their primes and had entered the serious carping stage.

The worst moments, IMHO, were all the times the Sox were rumored to move. Milwaukee, Seattle, various swamps in Florida; it didn't matter. Each one ate me up inside. ( Just ONCE I wish Cubs fans would have to wake up wondering where THEIR team was going to be next year!! )

Worst trade was when Veeck - as in reek - after getting credit for an AL Pennant he didn't deserve - ( see Frank Lane and Paul Richards ) - unloaded Johnny Callison, Earl Batty, John Romano and ~ shudder ~ Norm Cash, and ended up with an over-the-hill Minnie Minoso and Roy Sievers. ( As I remember. ) Thus, a REAL chance for a dynasty that might have displaced the Yankees for the next five years, at a time when such things were still possible, was lost forever. Next to that, the so-called WFT was small potatos. Hell, most of those guys would have fled anyway.

TornLabrum
08-01-2006, 08:47 AM
Some odds and ends:

By 1977, Harry and Jimmy were well past their primes and had entered the serious carping stage.

1977 was their first year together.

HerzogVon
08-01-2006, 09:01 AM
1977 was their first year together.

Blame it on an early onset of Alzheimer's. ( Could have sworn they started around 1975...) :redface:

Thome25
08-01-2006, 11:23 AM
July 31, 1972- Another baseball rarity! Dick Allen’s magical season continued withtwo inside the park home runs in a single game. That tied the Major League record at that time. It was set in Minnesota at old Metropolitan Stadium as the Sox beat Bert Blyleven 8 - 1. Bobby Darwin was the Twins center fielder who misplayed both of Allen’s drives. Allen was credited with five RBI’s on the day.

July 31, 1991- The white hot White Sox cap off a sizzling month with one of the most dramatic moments in team history. The Sox trail the Rangers 8-6 going into the bottom of the 9th inning. Texas brings in former Sox pitcher "Goose" Gossage to close things out. But the goose gets cooked on this night as with two out, Robin Ventura hammers a grand slam into the right field stands winning the game 10-8. A full house, which included noted Cub fan Bill Murray, goes wild as Ventura is lifted up by massive Frank Thomas in a celebration hug at home plate.


Personally, I think it's good that Lip brought up all of the history that happened today even the bad stuff. It makes us look back and enjoy the sweeter things that have happened to this team even more.

Instead of fighting on here about the WFT anf the "Black Sox" why don't we focus on these two great things that happened on today's date?

southwstchi4life
08-01-2006, 11:30 AM
Ugh the White flag trade. I was about 12 years old at the time and I could not believe it. What was Ron Shueler thinking. 3 1/2 out. at that point in time, that was great and closer than usual than usual to first place. Season was done. Worst baseball year ever for me. terrible

voodoochile
08-01-2006, 11:41 AM
Ugh the White flag trade. I was about 12 years old at the time and I could not believe it. What was Ron Shueler thinking. 3 1/2 out. at that point in time, that was great and closer than usual than usual to first place. Season was done. Worst baseball year ever for me. terrible

It absolutely was the final straw for many Sox fans. JR surrendered and the impact was immediate. The next two seasons the Sox failed to draw 1.5M fans. After the previous decade which included the threatened move to FL and JR leading the owners faction in the 94 season, fans had had enough.

It was a HUGE PR blunder - one of the worst ever in pro sports history, IMO. The damage wasn't undone until KW took over and made the decision to pursue big FA and field a winner at all costs.

Yes, I am very happy about the recent developments, but the WFT made a mockery of the game and damaged the franchise badly both in terms of money intake and in terms of public perception.

viagracat
08-01-2006, 11:46 AM
Before 2005, the thing I had to defend the most often as a Sox fan was the fact that I still supported the team despite White Flag. It was a total sellout that believe me, Chicagoans haven't forgotten.

As bad as the Black Sox scandal was, it's hard to still get outraged over something that happened 87 years ago, IMO.

STRETCH!!!
08-01-2006, 12:29 PM
Edmonton Cracker Cats of the Northern League

What a name! Do their fans yell "Go Crackers Go!"?

Lip Man 1
08-01-2006, 12:33 PM
Dan:

Thanks! I had forgotten about that one. I'll add it to the master list.

July 31, 1977- The high point of the 1977 season. The ‘Southside Hit Men’ had won the first two games of this crucial four game series with the Royals by coming from behind each time. In the first game of a double header, Chet Lemon’s two run home run in the last of the 10th tied the game at four, then Ralph Garr’s single drove in the game winner. The Sox were now 6 ˝ games in the lead, the franchise’s largest margin since 1967. Three straight come from behind wins had the crowd of over forty-five thousand in a frenzy. The second game also produced fireworks as the Royals routed the Sox 8-4. Hal McRae homered, then did a slow trot around the bases, tipping his cap as he touched home plate, mocking Sox fans who had called for ‘curtain calls’ all season long.

And thanks to the folks who stated they enjoy these. That does make the time spent researching and typing worthwhile. I appreciate it.

Lip

STRETCH!!!
08-01-2006, 12:41 PM
First of all, a great summary of the history of July 31st - entertainingly written no less!

The common denominator between throwing the series and the WFT is a lack soul. The players lacked soul when they threw the world series, although I think historians are pretty much in agreement that Old Man Comiskey was a tight wad who shares the blame.

The WFT killed me at the time (the Black Soxs scandel couldn't have killed me since I wasn't alive then). Seriously, I felt so betrayed by the ownership of the team. I felt what a souless bunch of **** is running this team. How could they just give up the shot at a title for 30 pieces of silver?

However, time heals.

Now I know that the real "soul" of the White Sox rests inside with their core fans; as great and as loyal of a fan base as can be found in all of sports. No owner or player can take it away. I recommend Roeper's new book for some insights (great interview by WSI by the way).