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cbrownson13
07-29-2006, 04:13 PM
Is anyone watching the pre-game right now on Comcast? I BELIEVE I just saw Garland has the second most wins in all of baseball since opening day, 2005.

He has 28, and is behind Carpenter, who has 31.

I didn't realize that was the case, that's pretty damn good.

bottomfeeder
07-29-2006, 04:23 PM
yeah it is, if you were to tell me three months ago that he would be our ace at this point in the season though, I would of told ya you were high

batmanZoSo
07-29-2006, 04:34 PM
Is anyone watching the pre-game right now on Comcast? I BELIEVE I just saw Garland has the second most wins in all of baseball since opening day, 2005.

He has 28, and is behind Carpenter, who has 31.

I didn't realize that was the case, that's pretty damn good.

He's had the horseshoe somewhat this year. He usually got enough to win--or not to lose--when he was struggling early on. Of course you can't fault a pitcher for getting run support. He wins, that's all that matters and now he's back to pitching the way he did in '05.

"wrong" sox fan
07-29-2006, 04:52 PM
I hate using wins to measure how good a pitcher is.

At one point the same thing was true of Rick Helling.


On the other hand Garland is a very solid pitcher who has and will in the future have runs of brilliance.

balke
07-30-2006, 04:15 AM
Very few pitchers are on all the time, with or without injuries. I have always been annoyed at the Garland posts on this board, ever since I've been on this board someone's had something horrible to say about the guy, and he's done nothing but give results and wins to the Sox. Cheers to the supporters, the guy's not perfect but he's won a lot of games for the Sox. He's a very scary pitcher when he's locked in like he was last season. I personally love having him on the team.

Frankly Missing
07-30-2006, 10:16 AM
I have been 100% Garland ever since the game in Boston in 2001.

I will never forget that kid on the mound at Fenway, shut them out until the 8th inning.

A proud Sox moment in time.

southside rocks
07-30-2006, 10:20 AM
... the guy's not perfect ...
Then he should be traded for a homerun hitter, immediately!

Maybe I'm just much older (well, no maybe about it) than most of the posters here, but I find the suggestions that players who hit slumps be traded to be really silly. No offense meant; everyone's got his or her own opinion, I know. But I read some of the "get rid of X" threads and I think that it reads more like a fantasy baseball board. The objective seems to be simply to have a roster full of players who have the best stats in the league.

Ozzie won the Manager of the Year award last year not because he and KW shipped out every player who didn't perform perfectly at least 90% of the time, but because he got a bunch of players who are not HOF caliber to play together as a team and win a World Series Championship.

I like my baseball real. And right now I think Ozzie is trying mightily to get the 2006 team to come together like the 2005 team did. If he succeeds, and if the team succeeds, it will be something wonderful to see.

viagracat
07-30-2006, 11:36 AM
The knock on Garland before 2005 was his lack of mental toughness. Every now and then he reminds me of the bad old days, but when he's on, and that's been the norm lately, he's the best on the staff. We absolutely need him to step up the rest of the season.

slavko
07-30-2006, 12:18 PM
yeah it is, if you were to tell me three months ago that he would be our ace at this point in the season though, I would of told ya you were high

Those of us who voted for him in the pre-season poll of Sox pitchers on this site thank you very much. For a "soft" kid he took the ball last night and lasted long enough for a win running on antibiotics and fumes. He has an easy throwing motion, his array of pitches is hard to tell apart, and he has a change of speeds to go with it. He will be around a long time.

jongarlandlover
07-30-2006, 02:45 PM
Is anyone watching the pre-game right now on Comcast? I BELIEVE I just saw Garland has the second most wins in all of baseball since opening day, 2005.

He has 28, and is behind Carpenter, who has 31.

I didn't realize that was the case, that's pretty damn good.

That's awesome.

I am a huge Jon Garland fan. I'm happy for him.

Yesterday, he held on long enough to get a win even though he was on medication - good for him!

balke
08-05-2006, 09:21 AM
And now he continues the streak by beating Halladay. Nice job Jon, looking as good as Jose out there lately.

hawkjt
08-05-2006, 10:15 AM
Pitchers that are going good have a certain posture out there. Jose had it for a long time, now Jon has it. He knows he can fall behind and still hit his spots. He has great mound presence right now. His body language screams confidence lately. He falls behind 3-2 and he can throw multiple strikes even when the guys are fouling them off.

Coop says Javvy has to stand taller on the mound, hope his posture and presence improves. Jose is still tough, jon going good, Burls looking better, - now it javvy and freddie standing in the way of playoff baseball. C'mon guys pick it up.

my5thbench
08-05-2006, 11:07 AM
You gotta' love the way Jon has been lookin' out there, 12&3 is nice & his ERA is starting to creep downward...his last 7 or 8 starts have been pretty darned good.

Freddy has lost too much velocity...I don't see how Coop can fix that

vafan
08-05-2006, 08:29 PM
I thought Garland turned the corner last year, which is why I was a strong advocate for re-signing him in the offseason. I even predicted, going forward, that he had a very good chance to win as many games as Mark Buehrle. Well, Buehrle, you better step it up ...

DaleJRFan
08-06-2006, 04:33 AM
Freddy has lost too much velocity...I don't see how Coop can fix that

:?: Why not??? Even with his reduced velocity, he still throws 5 mph harder than Buehrle. Does that mean MB is done, too?