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peelwonder
07-28-2006, 10:18 AM
Just heard this...did a search and didn't see it on here

Mods...I guess this now goes into a different forum.

102605
07-28-2006, 10:19 AM
Where was this reported?

Edit:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2532418

Rocky Soprano
07-28-2006, 10:19 AM
The Milwaukee Brewers (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=mil) are trading slugger Carlos Lee (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6161) to the Texas Rangers (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex) as part of a multi-player deal, ESPN.com learned Friday.
The Brewers are sending Lee, minor-league outfield prospect Nelson Cruz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7681) and a player to be named later to the Rangers for relief pitcher Francisco Cordero (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6300) and outfielders Kevin Mench (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6900) and Laynce Nix (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7176). Both teams are checking for any medical issues before consummating the deal.

Per ESPN.COM

Gavin
07-28-2006, 10:20 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2532418

Pierzynski 12
07-28-2006, 10:21 AM
Wow.

White Sox Randy
07-28-2006, 10:22 AM
outstanding !

Dan Mega
07-28-2006, 10:23 AM
I wonder who the PTBN is?

cbotnyse
07-28-2006, 10:24 AM
Meh. There are a .500 team. shouldnt affect us....Its better than him going to MN, or Detroit.

downstairs
07-28-2006, 10:26 AM
Good riddance for all involved.

Dan Mega
07-28-2006, 10:28 AM
I didn't realize that Cordero was having a craptacular year. But in that NL central division his numbers should inflate.

Law11
07-28-2006, 10:32 AM
The Milwaukee Brewers (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=mil) are trading slugger Carlos Lee (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6161) to the Texas Rangers (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex) as part of a multi-player deal, ESPN.com learned Friday.
The Brewers are sending Lee, minor-league outfield prospect Nelson Cruz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7681) and a player to be named later to the Rangers for relief pitcher Francisco Cordero (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6300) and outfielders Kevin Mench (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6900) and Laynce Nix (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7176). Both teams are checking for any medical issues before consummating the deal.

Per ESPN.COM

WHy couldnt these guys have been traded before we faced Texas..

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 10:32 AM
The Milwaukee Brewers (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=mil) are trading slugger Carlos Lee (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6161) to the Texas Rangers (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex) as part of a multi-player deal, ESPN.com learned Friday.
The Brewers are sending Lee, minor-league outfield prospect Nelson Cruz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7681) and a player to be named later to the Rangers for relief pitcher Francisco Cordero (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6300) and outfielders Kevin Mench (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6900) and Laynce Nix (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7176). Both teams are checking for any medical issues before consummating the deal.

Per ESPN.COMCordero sevice time: 6 years. Signed through 2006 with $5M option for 2007

Mench service time: 3 years. Signed through 2006 at $2.8M. Arbitration-eligible for two more years.

Nix Not on 25-man roster. service time: about 2 years. Probably not arbitration-eligible until after 2007

Pierzynski 12
07-28-2006, 10:32 AM
WHy couldnt these guys have been traded before we faced Texas..

True dat.

Gremlin3
07-28-2006, 10:34 AM
This kills my fantasy team.

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 10:35 AM
Who will play RF now for the Rangers? DeRosa?

102605
07-28-2006, 10:36 AM
Who will play RF now for the Rangers? DeRosa?

Dont they have Wilkerson too?

Pierzynski 12
07-28-2006, 10:36 AM
Who will play RF now for the Rangers? DeRosa?

He's been playing RF.

Paulwny
07-28-2006, 10:38 AM
With Lee now out of the picture, does Soriano's value increase or decrease ?

Reef94
07-28-2006, 10:39 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2532418

All the best Carlos.

skottyj242
07-28-2006, 10:40 AM
This kills my fantasy team.

NL only I'm guessing?

DaleJRFan
07-28-2006, 10:41 AM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=76074

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 10:41 AM
Dont they have Wilkerson too?I could be wrong, but I didn't think Wilkerson had the arm to play RF. If not, where does he play now?

itsnotrequired
07-28-2006, 10:44 AM
I'm glad the Sox don't face the Rangers again this year (playoffs not withstanding).

INSox56
07-28-2006, 10:45 AM
LOL Rangers got jobbed I think

Pierzynski 12
07-28-2006, 10:46 AM
Lee staying out of the AL Central is a sigh of relief.

102605
07-28-2006, 10:46 AM
I could be wrong, but I didn't think Wilkerson had the arm to play RF. If not, where does he play now?

He is listed in LF for Texas. Not having a good year .231 AVG - 15 HR - 3 SB.

I guess one of the LF they have could DH. I dont remember who normally is the DH for the Rangers.

chaerulez
07-28-2006, 10:47 AM
Why do the Rangers insist on adding more hitting? They traded Soriano and got no pitching back and now this. What are they thinking?

MarySwiss
07-28-2006, 10:51 AM
Lee staying out of the AL Central is a sigh of relief.

I also like getting Mench out of the AL. That guy was annoying.

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 10:52 AM
He is listed in LF for Texas. Not having a good year .231 AVG - 15 HR - 3 SB.

I guess one of the LF they have could DH. I dont remember who normally is the DH for the Rangers.They've had kind of a rotation with Mench and DeRosa. I would guess DeRosa goes to RF and Wilkerson goes to DH or maybe CLee does some DH duty. Not really a bad deal for the Rangers IF they can re-sign CLee.

goofymsfan
07-28-2006, 10:53 AM
Wow.

I second that!:?:

goofymsfan
07-28-2006, 10:54 AM
Why do the Rangers insist on adding more hitting? They traded Soriano and got no pitching back and now this. What are they thinking?

For some reason, they still have not figured out that without decent pitching, you go NOWHERE.

102605
07-28-2006, 10:55 AM
They've had kind of a rotation with Mench and DeRosa. I would guess DeRosa goes to RF and Wilkerson goes to DH or maybe CLee does some DH duty. Not really a bad deal for the Rangers IF they can re-sign CLee.

I agree. I would think they have some room and money to spend since unloading Soriano / Arod.

Foulke You
07-28-2006, 10:56 AM
Lee staying out of the AL Central is a sigh of relief.
Amen to that. I had this terrible vision of Carlos in a Yankee or Twins uniform.

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 10:59 AM
Amen to that. I had this terrible vision of Carlos in a Yankee or Twins uniform.It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Lee's numbers moving away from pathetic pitching in the NL Central.

TheDarkGundam
07-28-2006, 11:00 AM
I'm glad he's not going to the Cubs.
Now I won't have to get my old jersey changed.

caulfield12
07-28-2006, 11:01 AM
Cordero was about to be booed out of town...he, along with Otsuka, helped to surrender two leads to the Yankees to give them their half game advantage.

They really needed to make this move, because Oakland and the Angels both have much better pitching, on the whole, then the Rangers.

Nice move by the 28 or 29 year old GM Jon Daniels.

Interested to see if they can sign him long-term. With what little they had to give up, I don't think a deal is signed yet for an extension.

And I suppose it's nice he won't have 19 opportunities to beat us every season.

SABRSox
07-28-2006, 11:02 AM
All I have to say is, not the Tigers or Twins! :supernana:

MagicNumber22
07-28-2006, 11:04 AM
I guess that Buck and crew will now bash their way into the postseason. With no pitching, they won't get too far into October, though.

SABRSox
07-28-2006, 11:06 AM
What are the possibilities that Texas flips CLee to Detroit or Minnesota for some pitching? This deal doesn't make much sense for them. The last thing they need is more offense.

Foulke You
07-28-2006, 11:10 AM
It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Lee's numbers moving away from pathetic pitching in the NL Central.
I think we'll see a marginal drop in numbers but we do know what Carlos can do in the AL. He was very productive for the Sox for several years and we all know the ball jumps out of Arlington just as easily as it did in Miller Park. It will be interesting to watch.

I also find it interesting that Texas added another bat. That seems to be their method. Try to slug their way to a division title every year while neglecting the pitching staff. There is no denying their lineup's potential though. Young, Texiera, Blalock, and Carlos Lee is as potent a middle of the order as you'll find.

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 11:12 AM
What are the possibilities that Texas flips CLee to Detroit or Minnesota for some pitching? This deal doesn't make much sense for them. The last thing they need is more offense.They seem not to have figured this out. Besides, if they move Lee and put Wilkerson back in LF, who DH's?

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 11:15 AM
I think we'll see a marginal drop in numbers but we do know what Carlos can do in the AL. He was very productive for the Sox for several years and we all know the ball jumps out of Arlington just as easily as it did in Miller Park. It will be interesting to watch.

I also find it interesting that Texas added another bat. That seems to be their method. Try to slug their way to a division title every year while neglecting the pitching staff. There is no denying their lineup's potential though. Young, Texiera, Blalock, and Carlos Lee is as potent a middle of the order as you'll find.They didn't really add a bat as much as they upgraded one. Lee is basically Mench with more power but less defense. For this they gave up a reliever they didn't really need anymore and a guy who's never been able to hit at the major league level. It makes them better, but you're right that it doesn't address their main weakness.

SABRSox
07-28-2006, 11:18 AM
They seem not to have figured this out. Besides, if they move Lee and put Wilkerson back in LF, who DH's?

I'd keep Wilkerson as DH, and play speedster Guzman in LF. Sure, you lose a ton of power, but C Lee should be able to get you at least one top flight arm, if not another solid one to go along with it.

This trade just doesn't make any sense. Seems to me the Rangers are the team that see something new and shiny in the store, and they just have to have it, regardless of whether they actually need it or not.

They will still lose the AL West to Anaheim, because the Angels will pitch circles around them.

JUribe1989
07-28-2006, 11:19 AM
Great trade for both teams IMO. Mench and Nix are good players that will thrive in Milwakee. Cordero's ERA will be much better in the NL. Lee will absolutely love hitting in Arlington. The Brewers made a really good trade considering they were going to lose Lee after the year anyways.

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 11:20 AM
I'd keep Wilkerson as DH, and play speedster Guzman in LF. Sure, you lose a ton of power, but C Lee should be able to get you at least one top flight arm, if not another solid one to go along with it.

This trade just doesn't make any sense. Seems to me the Rangers are the team that see something new and shiny in the store, and they just have to have it, regardless of whether they actually need it or not.

They will still lose the AL West to Anaheim, because the Angels will pitch circles around them.Kind of like a certain team on the North side.

JUribe1989
07-28-2006, 11:24 AM
Does anyone else think the Brewers made out like bandits considering they got 3 Major-league players for a player they wouldn't have after this year? I think it's a great trade.

DaleJRFan
07-28-2006, 11:26 AM
Does anyone else think the Brewers made out like bandits considering they got 3 Major-league players for a player they wouldn't have after this year? I think it's a great trade.

Brewers would have gotten the better half if Cordero wasn't involved. I assume he'll take over the closer role since Turnbow was demoted. Hopefully for him and the Brewers, the NL central batters won't be able to hit his straight fastball over the middle of the plate.

Francisco Cordero flat out sucks but Kevin Mench is a good player and Lance Nix is a nice role player platoon guy to go with Brady Clark, Geoff Jenkins and Mench.

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 11:30 AM
Does anyone else think the Brewers made out like bandits considering they got 3 Major-league players for a player they wouldn't have after this year? I think it's a great trade.TWO major-league players. Nix is in AAA and the jury's still out on whether he'll be able to hit major-league pitching. But even at that, they certainly did pretty well. It's not a bad deal for the Rangers, either. They upgraded Mench for the price of a reliever they didn't need anymore and Nix. Some trades work out well for both sides.

JUribe1989
07-28-2006, 11:30 AM
Brewers would have gotten the better half if Cordero wasn't involved. I assume he'll take over the closer role since Turnbow was demoted. Hopefully for him and the Brewers, the NL central batters won't be able to hit his straight fastball over the middle of the plate.

Francisco Cordero flat out sucks but Kevin Mench is a good player and Lance Nix is a nice role player platoon guy to go with Brady Clark, Geoff Jenkins and Mench.

I think Cordero has a much better chance as a closer in the NL Central instead of the AL West.

MrX
07-28-2006, 11:32 AM
TWO major-league players.
Yeah, Nix has been in the minors since April after he hit.094 for the month. He's also is in the age range when he goes from prospect to career minor leaguer.

Frater Perdurabo
07-28-2006, 11:46 AM
This is a good deal for the Rangers for the stretch run. They have hit a ton of doubles this year but not as many homers as one might expect. Lee really solidifies the heart of the order, providing protection behind Teixeira (whose HR numbers really have tanked this season).

Mench had some unbelieveable weeks but he turns bad for months at a time. He numbers will inflate in the NL, though. With the emergence of a veteran like Gary Matthews, Jr. in CF, Nix doesn't appear to have a position with the Rangers. Too bad; I always liked his defense in CF. He too should flourish in the NL.

The Rangers rotate DH among several players to keep them fresh.

Right field actually is the easiest OF position to play in Arlington because of the short RF fence (not a lot of ground to cover, and many fly balls end up as HRs or in the RCF area where the CF can better field them as extra-base hits). Center is very difficult (deep gaps), and left is rather difficult as well. With Matthews, Jr. flanking him, Lee COULD play an acceptable right field at Ameriquest. Still, I think Lee will become the usual LF, but also get some starts at DH while Wilkerson and DeRosa split between RF and DH.

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 12:04 PM
This is a good deal for the Rangers for the stretch run. They have hit a ton of doubles this year but not as many homers as one might expect. Lee really solidifies the heart of the order, providing protection behind Teixeira (whose HR numbers really have tanked this season).

Mench had some unbelieveable weeks but he turns bad for months at a time. He numbers will inflate in the NL, though. With the emergence of a veteran like Gary Matthews, Jr. in CF, Nix doesn't appear to have a position with the Rangers. Too bad; I always liked his defense in CF. He too should flourish in the NL.

The Rangers rotate DH among several players to keep them fresh.

Right field actually is the easiest OF position to play in Arlington because of the short RF fence (not a lot of ground to cover, and many fly balls end up as HRs or in the RCF area where the CF can better field them as extra-base hits). Center is very difficult (deep gaps), and left is rather difficult as well. With Matthews, Jr. flanking him, Lee COULD play an acceptable right field at Ameriquest. Still, I think Lee will become the usual LF, but also get some starts at DH while Wilkerson and DeRosa split between RF and DH.It's still 325 feet to the RF foul pole. That's not much shorter than USCF. My concern with Lee in RF is more a matter of arm strength. Other than DeRosa, does anyone have much of an arm on that team? I seem to recall Wilkerson's as not being too strong.

Fake Chet Lemon
07-28-2006, 12:48 PM
What are the possibilities that Texas flips CLee to Detroit or Minnesota for some pitching? This deal doesn't make much sense for them. The last thing they need is more offense.

They better act really quick, so one wouldn't think so.

bafiarocks03
07-28-2006, 12:50 PM
Oh myyy! Psht! Well at least i get to see Carlos

buuttt I like Kevin mench!

Jjav829
07-28-2006, 01:01 PM
Does anyone else think the Brewers made out like bandits considering they got 3 Major-league players for a player they wouldn't have after this year? I think it's a great trade.

Nope. They gave up one of their top prospects along with Lee to get back a guy who has hit 2 HR in the past two months and 5 since the beginning of May, a decent reliever in Cordero and Laynce Nix.

I know they are desparate for relief pitching, but I don't like this move for the Brewers. They have some pretty good young outfielders. They didn't need to get two OFs in return.

Flight #24
07-28-2006, 01:10 PM
IMO as already noted, this improves the Rangers. not enough to win the ALW, but while their real needwas pitching, I'm not sure an impact arm is available(& they weren't getting Zito). but best of all, the Rangers get better going into series with the Twinks & Tiggers.

SABRSox
07-28-2006, 01:10 PM
Nope. They gave up one of their top prospects along with Lee to get back a guy who has hit 2 HR in the past two months and 5 since the beginning of May, a decent reliever in Cordero and Laynce Nix.

I know they are desparate for relief pitching, but I don't like this move for the Brewers. They have some pretty good young outfielders. They didn't need to get two OFs in return.

Yeah, but when Lee turned down the Brewers offer, it wasn't likely that Milwaukee was going to get much of anything in return. That they landed Mench (who is much better than he's shown this season so far) is a coup in itself.

I do agree that both Cordero and Nix (especially Nix) are garbage. I would've at least tried to pry somebody useful away from the Rangers. If you want an OF, Freddy Guzman would've been the guy to get.

soxinem1
07-28-2006, 01:16 PM
The trade is great in my eyes, as Mench has murdered our pitching since he came up. I'm sure Buerhle looks forward to that too.

Sure it makes the Rangersine up even more potent, but removing a guy who has your number works for me.

Chisox003
07-28-2006, 01:32 PM
Nope. They gave up one of their top prospects along with Lee to get back a guy who has hit 2 HR in the past two months and 5 since the beginning of May, a decent reliever in Cordero and Laynce Nix.

I know they are desparate for relief pitching, but I don't like this move for the Brewers. They have some pretty good young outfielders. They didn't need to get two OFs in return.
I agree.

Maybe the Brewers plan on turning Mench into something, I really don't know. But Texas definitely took em here. :dunno:

mjmcend
07-28-2006, 02:21 PM
For some reason, they still have not figured out that without decent pitching, you go NOWHERE.

True, but no decent pitching is avalible. And it is better to pay for more hitting than overpay for piss poor pitching.

mjmcend
07-28-2006, 02:28 PM
I do agree that both Cordero and Nix (especially Nix) are garbage. I would've at least tried to pry somebody useful away from the Rangers. If you want an OF, Freddy Guzman would've been the guy to get.

Cordero is not garbage. Not an elite reliever but pretty good. He has a 2.87 ERA in 37 2/3 innings since the end of April. And moving out of home-happy Ameriquest will only help him. I think he will be a good reliever for the Brew Crew.

ComiskeyBrewer
07-28-2006, 02:36 PM
Brewers would have gotten the better half if Cordero wasn't involved. I assume he'll take over the closer role since Turnbow was demoted. Hopefully for him and the Brewers, the NL central batters won't be able to hit his straight fastball over the middle of the plate.

Francisco Cordero flat out sucks but Kevin Mench is a good player and Lance Nix is a nice role player platoon guy to go with Brady Clark, Geoff Jenkins and Mench.

Cordero isn't that bad. Up until his last game, he has a 1.96 ERA since May 1st. Turnbow wasn't demoted. During the Press Confrence Ned Yost and Doug Melvin said they have confidence in him. I expect Cordero to be the main setup man.

ComiskeyBrewer
07-28-2006, 02:39 PM
Nope. They gave up one of their top prospects along with Lee to get back a guy who has hit 2 HR in the past two months and 5 since the beginning of May, a decent reliever in Cordero and Laynce Nix.

I know they are desparate for relief pitching, but I don't like this move for the Brewers. They have some pretty good young outfielders. They didn't need to get two OFs in return.

With all due respect, Nelson Cruz, a 26 year old AAA Corner OFer(who was blocked by more than one player) was not one of the Brewers best prospects. Yo, Braun, ZachJack, Carlos Villenueva, Angel Salome, Mark Rogers, Will Inman, and Corey Hart are all better prospects off of the top of my head.

ComiskeyBrewer
07-28-2006, 02:42 PM
I agree.

Maybe the Brewers plan on turning Mench into something, I really don't know. But Texas definitely took em here. :dunno:

WTMJ just reported the Brewers may swing Cordero, Mench and Jenks/Clark in a package later today/tomorrow.

Chisox003
07-28-2006, 02:44 PM
WTMJ just reported the Brewers may swing Cordero, Mench and Jenks/Clark in a package later today/tomorrow.
Figured as much.

This deal just doesn't make sense to me. It has to be a setup for one to follow, hopefully for pitching.

Mr. White Sox
07-28-2006, 03:11 PM
Figured as much.

This deal just doesn't make sense to me. It has to be a setup for one to follow, hopefully for pitching.

I actually think this deal makes sense for the Brewers. Cordero DOES have closer's stuff, and since his awful first two months has had an ERA under three, I believe (under two if you discount the cheap AB to A-Rod and the Spankmees). Mench is a downgrade offensively but is trade bait and also a cheap power bat if they want to keep him. Nix isn't much.

As for the Rangers, yeah, I don't think this makes a whole lot of sense. They're also in trouble if Otsuka gets hurt or blows more saves, as they don't really have potential closers in that bullpen.

beckett21
07-28-2006, 03:18 PM
Who will play RF now for the Rangers? DeRosa?

Nelson Cruz.

Cruz is an excellent prospect. I think Texas did better in this than people may think.

Frater Perdurabo
07-28-2006, 03:45 PM
It's still 325 feet to the RF foul pole. That's not much shorter than USCF. My concern with Lee in RF is more a matter of arm strength. Other than DeRosa, does anyone have much of an arm on that team? I seem to recall Wilkerson's as not being too strong.

Unlike almost every other park in the big leagues, Ameriquest's RF is the easiest of the three OF positions to play from a defensive standpoint because LF, LCF and CF are so much larger.

It's a misconception that Ameriquest is a "home run" park. Yes, it's true that lots of homers go out to RCF because of the jet stream and the short RF fence. But it's larger than the average MLB park in LF, LCF and CF, which is why so many doubles and triples are hit in Arlington. In fact, of all the MLB parks, only Yankee Stadium (399) and Comerica Park (402) are deeper in LCF than Ameriquest (390).

I'm just saying that if Showalter wanted to do so, he COULD play Lee in RF in Ameriquest since so many balls hit to RF in Ameriquest go for homers anyway. Also, at Ameriquest, the RF faces north and therefore never has to look into the sun.

It's a moot point anyway, because Showalter announced that he intends to start Nelson Cruz in RF on Saturday night.

Chisox003
07-28-2006, 03:53 PM
Matthews CF
Kinsler 2B
Young SS
Texiera 1B
Lee LF
Blalock 3B
DeRosa DH
Cruz RF
Barajas C

That top 6 is deadly, no matter the order the Rangers decide.

Mohoney
07-28-2006, 04:08 PM
It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Lee's numbers moving away from pathetic pitching in the NL Central.

He's going to a hitters' park, though. It shouldn't be too bad.

Jjav829
07-28-2006, 04:59 PM
With all due respect, Nelson Cruz, a 26 year old AAA Corner OFer(who was blocked by more than one player) was not one of the Brewers best prospects. Yo, Braun, ZachJack, Carlos Villenueva, Angel Salome, Mark Rogers, Will Inman, and Corey Hart are all better prospects off of the top of my head.

Well his placement doesn't really matter. The point is they gave up a guy who could possibly put up numbers that aren't much worst than Mench (and is younger and cheaper) along with Lee to get a mediocre setup man. And they already had several OF options to replace Lee in house.

thomas35forever
07-28-2006, 05:25 PM
This kills my fantasy team.
Same here. I waited too long to get rid of him. One of my leagues only carries National League players.

MrX
07-28-2006, 11:48 PM
Buster Olney just said on BBT Lee wants a deal worth 75 million this offseason:mg:

Gremlin3
07-30-2006, 12:55 PM
NL only I'm guessing?

Yeah, NL only is nice. I get to keep my emotions out of it.

ComiskeyBrewer
07-30-2006, 04:56 PM
Nelson Cruz.

Cruz is an excellent prospect. I think Texas did better in this than people may think.


IMO, Nelson Cruz would be an excellent prospect if he were 2-3 years younger. He is solid, but until he learns to hit the Curveball(something that has caused him to K once almost every 3 ABs) he will not be that great of a hitter.

beckett21
07-30-2006, 05:19 PM
IMO, Nelson Cruz would be an excellent prospect if he were 2-3 years younger. He is solid, but until he learns to hit the Curveball(something that has caused him to K once almost every 3 ABs) he will not be that great of a hitter.

He's a little older than I thought he was.

I still think he has a lot of potential; a late bloomer perhaps. Just about everyone hits in Texas. :D: