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KMKsuburbannoise
07-27-2006, 10:59 AM
I came up with the ERA's of our rotation from the end of last year compared to right now.

2005 Pitching at the end of the season:

Buerhle- ERA 3.12
Garcia- ERA 3.87
Contreras- ERA 3.61
Garland- ERA 3.50
Hernandez- ERA 5.12 (pitched over 150 innings so added him in)

2006 Pitching as of now:

Buerhle- 4.81
Garcie- 4.86
Contreras- 3.52
Garland- 4.79
Vasquez- 5.31



Couldn't find the WHIP but if people want to add to the stats feel free. To sum this all up the only one who is pitching anywhere close to last year is Jose and he is doing slightly better. Check it out, could this be our problem?

Pequod
07-27-2006, 11:04 AM
I don't think there's any question that's the problem. You can point fingers in a lot of directions. Another thread is discussing Pods...I don't think that's it. Offense sputtering? You betcha...but overall you'd be hard pressed to complain about that. Defense? Lapses here and there, but overall solid. If anything is standing out as being a problem, it is pitching. Hopefully we've got the BP fixed (I kinda like the look of it now). Now about that starting pitching...

Iwritecode
07-27-2006, 11:12 AM
WHIP 2005
Buerhle- 1.18
Garcia- 1.25
Contreras- 1.23
Garland- 1.17
Hernandez- 1.46

WHIP 2006
Buerhle- 1.39
Garcia- 1.38
Contreras- 1.19
Garland- 1.36
Vazquez- 1.35

sox1970
07-27-2006, 11:12 AM
It's also good to compare the first 50 games to the last 50 games of this season and see the decline of the quality starts:

Games 1-50: 33-17
First 50 games: 32 qs
Quality start: 27-5
No quality start: 6-12

Games 51-100: 26-24
last 50 games: 19 qs
Quality start: 16-3
No quality start: 10-21

Season: 59-41
100 Games: 51 qs
Quality Start: 43-8
No Quality Start: 16-33

The Sox will need 35-40 quality starts in the last 62 to make the playoffs. Period.

Iwritecode
07-27-2006, 11:24 AM
Interesting to note, every single starter except Contreras is over his career norms in ERA and WHIP. Burly is over a full run higher. Vazquez is almost a full run higher.

Last year everyone was under. Way under...

Tekijawa
07-27-2006, 11:57 AM
Interesting to note, every single starter except Contreras is over his career norms in ERA and WHIP. Burly is over a full run higher. Vazquez is almost a full run higher.

Last year everyone was under. Way under...

D'oh... The Law of averages always wins!

soxfanatlanta
07-27-2006, 12:03 PM
D'oh... The Law of averages always wins!

Those propellerheads at Sabermetrics must be loving life these days. I would point out, however, that Garcia, and Garland are pitching much better as of late; their numbers will surely improve with a few more starts. I debated on pink, but no. I think it's realistic.

Iwritecode
07-27-2006, 12:14 PM
D'oh... The Law of averages always wins!

The law of averages said that we should've won a World Series long before 2005...

Right now I'd be happy if the starters had numbers right at their career norms. I didn't expect them to duplicate last year but nobody expected them to be this bad.

hold2dibber
07-27-2006, 12:16 PM
Starting pitching won it last year and it will be the key again this year. Simply put, the starters are going to have to pick it up if the Sox are going to make the playoffs. Right now I'm confident only in Contreras and Garland. The rest of 'em give me no comfort whatsoever. I don't think there are any difference-making starters out there who realistically could come via trade. It's going to be about the guys we have improving their performance. Period.

Jurr
07-27-2006, 12:25 PM
Once again, if the bats heat up in August and September, the pressure will be off of the pitching staff, and you'll see better performances.

I think the pitching was leaning on the hitting earlier in the year, and when the hitters cooled off, the pitchers didn't know how to adjust their mindset.

Last year, the pitching staff knew the hitting was going to be the weaker link, so they took it upon themselves to carry the team.

It's now gut check time. Hopefully they come around.

sox1970
07-27-2006, 12:27 PM
At the season rate, the Sox will need 36 Quality Starts over the last 62 games to win 97 games.

36/62 would be 58%

Over the last 50 games, the Sox are at 38% in Quality Starts.

It can be done, but it has to start now.

kevingrt
07-27-2006, 12:28 PM
It's depressing to look at those stats, but at least we know the problem to some degree. I don't doubt that Coop can't figure these kids out and get them back on track. We still have a little over two months left so if we can turn this thing around this weekend in Camden Yards, we will definitely have a say in this thing they call the World Series before this year is over.