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Viva Medias B's
07-27-2006, 08:25 AM
Yesterday's winner as the "Best Angel Ever" was Rod Carew.

Today you get to choose who was the best Houston Colt .45/Astro ever.

Law11
07-27-2006, 08:29 AM
Larry Dierker? WHere's J.R Ried or Mike Scott

Viva Medias B's
07-27-2006, 08:33 AM
Larry Dierker? WHere's J.R Ried or Mike Scott

Ask MLB or whoever put this DHL ballot together.

PennStater98r
07-27-2006, 09:15 AM
Didn't we already do this one? Oh wait - Ryan was on Houston too? :smile:

Mickster
07-27-2006, 09:27 AM
http://www.scarlet.nl/~ivo/photo_ASTRO5.GIF
:)

samram
07-27-2006, 09:43 AM
As of now, it's Bagwell, but I suspect Berkman may be in that spot ten years from now.

Nixey 02
07-27-2006, 09:58 AM
Larry Dierker? WHere's J.R Ried or Mike Scott

J.R. Reid? From UNC? Let's try J.R. Richard. He was a good one in the late 70's.

...John Hancock??...it's HERBIE Hancock!

I'll go with Bagwell.

Law11
07-27-2006, 10:16 AM
J.R. Reid? From UNC? Let's try J.R. Richard. He was a good one in the late 70's.

...John Hancock??...it's HERBIE Hancock!

I'll go with Bagwell.



LOL --- Ooops... I mean yeh JR Ried flat top and all...

the gooch
07-27-2006, 10:19 AM
Larry Dierker? WHere's J.R Ried or Mike Scotthttp://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:IUxZrgRmVUcqwM:http://www.dead-frog.com/images/site/steve_carrell.jpg (http://www.dead-frog.com/images/site/steve_carrell.jpg)
I bought myself a mug that says "World's Greatest Astro"

fquaye149
07-27-2006, 10:22 AM
i voted for bagwell...which was a tough choice, b/c Ryan was obviously the better player, AND he's from Texas.

But he didn't spend the majority of his career in Houston, much less his ENTIRE career....so I think Bagwell, a HOFer in his own right, gets the vote

soxfan13
07-27-2006, 10:54 AM
Write in for J.R. Richard phenominal pitcher struck down way to early

viagracat
07-27-2006, 11:45 AM
Bagwell's spent his entire career in Houston. He gets my vote.

russ99
07-27-2006, 11:54 AM
Write in for J.R. Richard phenominal pitcher struck down way to early

If J.R. had not done all those drugs, he would have been remembered as the most dominant pitcher of his era. It's a shame, really.

My ultra-biased-Astros-fan top ten: Caveat:I prefer the old Astrodome speed/pitching teams to the current Crawford box sluggers.

1. Bill Doran - I'd like to have seen what Ryne Sandberg's numbers would have been playing every day behind turf instead of that obscenely tall Wrigley grass and hitting in the Dome instead of that bandbox.

2. Cesar Cedeño

3. Jose Cruz

4. Joe Morgan, pre- and post-Reds. (That horrible trade handed the big Red machine a large chunk of those title-winning teams. The Reds also got Jack Billingham and Cesar Geronimo in the deal)

5. (tie) Biggio/Bagwell

7. J.R. Richard

8. Nolan Ryan

9. Mike Scott

10. Billy Wagner

Railsplitter
07-27-2006, 12:39 PM
Bagwell, though don't forget, Joe Morgan's stint with the Reds was bookended by time in Houston.

VenturaSoxFan23
07-27-2006, 12:53 PM
Mike Scott. I still have his Starting Lineup guy standing somewhere in my mom's basement.

buehrle4cy05
07-27-2006, 01:07 PM
Biggio. He's been with the team his entire career and is closing in on 3000 hits. But to me, what really pushes him over the top is that he has played C, 2B, CF, and LF for the Astros. That's the mark of a team player.

jackbrohamer
07-27-2006, 01:09 PM
Though his best years were here, and he only played 1+ season there, I vote Jacob Nelson Fox.

Nixey 02
07-27-2006, 01:32 PM
If J.R. had not done all those drugs, he would have been remembered as the most dominant pitcher of his era. It's a shame, really.

My ultra-biased-Astros-fan top ten: Caveat:I prefer the old Astrodome speed/pitching teams to the current Crawford box sluggers.

1. Bill Doran - I'd like to have seen what Ryne Sandberg's numbers would have been playing every day behind turf instead of that obscenely tall Wrigley grass and hitting in the Dome instead of that bandbox.

2. Cesar Cedeņo

3. Jose Cruz

4. Joe Morgan, pre- and post-Reds. (That horrible trade handed the big Red machine a large chunk of those title-winning teams. The Reds also got Jack Billingham and Cesar Geronimo in the deal)

5. (tie) Biggio/Bagwell

7. J.R. Richard

8. Nolan Ryan

9. Mike Scott

10. Billy Wagner


A list of 10 and no love for Glenn Davis??

or Dickie Thon :redneck

russ99
07-27-2006, 01:49 PM
A list of 10 and no love for Glenn Davis??

or Dickie Thon :redneck

I loved Glenn Davis, but his power numbers have been far eclipsed by the Astro sluggers of the 90's and 00's. Still, he put up great numbers playing in the Dome. I much preferred the speed guys on the Astros in the 70s and 80's ( I've been an Astros fan since 1978, but a Sox fan since birth!)

Dickie Thon would have been a special player, had he not been beaned (in he head?) in 1985.

Worst Astro IMO: Kevin Bass for swinging at that horrible Jesse Orosco pitch in 1986! :angry:

PennStater98r
07-27-2006, 04:11 PM
I loved Glenn Davis, but his power numbers have been far eclipsed by the Astro sluggers of the 90's and 00's. Still, he put up great numbers playing in the Dome. I much preferred the speed guys on the Astros in the 70s and 80's ( I've been an Astros fan since 1978, but a Sox fan since birth!)

Dickie Thon would have been a special player, had he not been beaned (in he head?) in 1985.

Worst Astro IMO: Kevin Bass for swinging at that horrible Jesse Orosco pitch in 1986! :angry:

Isn't beaned by definition a HBP in the head?

thomas35forever
07-27-2006, 04:36 PM
Gotta vote for Craig. I met him seven years ago.

Cambridge
07-28-2006, 04:54 PM
Wynn is one of the most underrated players in history and among the best not in the Hall of Fame.

DoItForDanPasqua
07-28-2006, 06:20 PM
I'm going with Brad Lidge.

SOXPHILE
07-28-2006, 07:04 PM
Mark Lemonjello (sp ?) Anyone else remember that famous tempertanturm he had at Wrigley, back around 1979 or 1980 ? He was yelling at the umpire, and then after he got launched, he went into the dugout, grabbed a bat, and started banging the walls, steps, and field with it. Then he went back down, and started throwing all the batting helmets onto the field. I was only like 9 years old, but I still remember laughing and thinking "Wow, what a wacko !"

Tragg
07-28-2006, 07:16 PM
If J.R. had not done all those drugs, he would have been remembered as the most dominant pitcher of his era. It's a shame, really.

My ultra-biased-Astros-fan top ten: Caveat:I prefer the old Astrodome speed/pitching teams to the current Crawford box sluggers.

1. Bill Doran - I'd like to have seen what Ryne Sandberg's numbers would have been playing every day behind turf instead of that obscenely tall Wrigley grass and hitting in the Dome instead of that bandbox.

2. Cesar Cedeño

3. Jose Cruz

4. Joe Morgan, pre- and post-Reds. (That horrible trade handed the big Red machine a large chunk of those title-winning teams. The Reds also got Jack Billingham and Cesar Geronimo in the deal)

5. (tie) Biggio/Bagwell

7. J.R. Richard

8. Nolan Ryan

9. Mike Scott

10. Billy Wagner That's a good list...Mike Scott was the most dominant pitcher I've seen in an Astros uniform for a season (but it's questionable as to whether he followed all of the rules). Richard was super for a couple of years. He and Cedeno probably had the best talent I've seen from the Astros, but had injury-shortened careers.
I'd put a tandem of the 80s era closers on there as well Sambito/Smith. Jimmy Wynn carried the team in the 1960s. I like your pick of Cruz. Lance Berkman is edging close to the top 10 right now too.

Cesar Geronimo got a lot better in Cincy than he was in Houston...just another reason not to trade away a young player too soon. The point of the trade was to get some power (Morgan led the team with 13 dingers the year before) - Lee May - but they gave up way way too much (the Astros also gave up Dennis Menke, a pretty good hitter, in that trade, although he was out of baseball before the big red machine years).

I'd go:

1)Jeff Bagwell
2)Larry Dierker
3)Jimmy Wynn
4)Cesar Cedeno
5)JR Richard
6)Craig Biggio
7)Joe Morgan
8)Sambito/Smith
9)Mike Scott
10)Jose Cruz

Best of the rest (in no order): Lance Berkman, Billy Wagner, Rusty Staub, Joe Niekro, Ken Forsch, Nolan Ryan, Don Wilson, Dickie Thon (the only Astros ss who could hit except for Dennis Menke who couldn't field - suffered that freak injury like so many stros).

russ99
07-29-2006, 12:05 AM
1)Jeff Bagwell
2)Larry Dierker
3)Jimmy Wynn
4)Cesar Cedeno
5)JR Richard
6)Craig Biggio
7)Joe Morgan
8)Sambito/Smith
9)Mike Scott
10)Jose Cruz

Best of the rest (in no order): Lance Berkman, Billy Wagner, Rusty Staub, Joe Niekro, Ken Forsch, Nolan Ryan, Don Wilson, Dickie Thon (the only Astros ss who could hit except for Dennis Menke who couldn't field - suffered that freak injury like so many stros).

I was going to put Dave Smith instead of Wagner, but IMO Wagner was a much more dominant closer, even though he didn't pitch in Houston as long.

Plus there's that embarassing season that Dave Smith pitched for the Cubs :tongue:

Sambito was a great closer - I had forgotten about him. I'm too young to remember Jimmy Wynn and Larry Dierker but I understand they were the keystones of some really bad Astro teams.

Maybe 5-6 years from now, Biggio and Bagwell will be higher on my list, especially if they both make the Hall.

Unrelated comment - How about Luke Scott, Astro rookie, hitting for the cycle tonight! Too bad the Astros still lost.

TDog
07-29-2006, 12:48 AM
I'm glad to see Joe Morgan wasn't among the choices. Or Carlos Beltran.

Bagwell has to be the choice, although Nolan Ryan has God-like status in the state of Texas. If you want to dispute him on it, you'd better be ready to get out of the way of the next pitch.