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Thome25
07-27-2006, 07:40 AM
The Tigers and Twins are facing off starting Friday. Which team do you think needs to win this series to help the White Sox chances?

I personally think we need the Tigers to go into Minnesota this weekend and put the smackdown on the Twins. As of right now, it looks like our best chance at making the playoffs is as the wildcard team. So IMO we need the Twins to lose 2 of 3 or better yet, get swept.

mcp5185
07-27-2006, 08:08 AM
I'm hoping the Tigers take 2 of 3, and we sweep the Orioles. We gain one game on the Tigers and go two up on the Twins. Who's with me?

drewcifer
07-27-2006, 08:16 AM
Personally, I don't give a damn what happens with the Tigers and Twins. There's still plenty of ball left to be resigned to worrying about what OTHER teams are doing.

We need to worry about our play. Win our games. If we do that day in and day out, we'll be where we are supposed to be in the end.

jenn2080
07-27-2006, 08:16 AM
At this point I could give 2 ****s about the Twins or the Tigers I want the Sox to win more then when Garland is pitching. The other two teams are the least of my concern right now. The thought of 3rd place makes me ill. With that said I am very mixed about it. I would like to see Minn beat the Tigers this weekend. I would rather us be closer to first then the Twins be on our ass or ahead of us anymore.

Thome25
07-27-2006, 08:33 AM
At this point I could give 2 ****s about the Twins or the Tigers I want the Sox to win more then when Garland is pitching. The other two teams are the least of my concern right now. The thought of 3rd place makes me ill. With that said I am very mixed about it. I would like to see Minn beat the Tigers this weekend. I would rather us be closer to first then the Twins be on our ass or ahead of us anymore.

If Minnesota beats the Tigers, that would keep them on our ass. We need them to lose so they won't be right on our tails anymore.

If the Twins take the series against the Tigers, that puts added pressure on the Sox. With things the way they are right now, these guys need to have fun and take things one game at a time.

With that said, I like that you have so much fire regarding the White Sox. I can appreciate that because I believe most of us have that same fire.

Law11
07-27-2006, 08:46 AM
I couldnt care less. No offense to the thread..
We need to win or nothing that these guys do matters.

Crede_Fan
07-27-2006, 08:48 AM
I'm hoping the Tigers take 2 of 3, and we sweep the Orioles. We gain one game on the Tigers and go two up on the Twins. Who's with me?

I am. Especially the sweeping the Orioles. The Sox need to go on an 8 game winning streak, lose 1, and win another 8 straight.

Thome25
07-27-2006, 08:54 AM
I couldnt care less. No offense to the thread..
We need to win or nothing that these guys do matters.

Of course we need to win. As I said earlier, we need to have fun and take things one game at a time. But, as of right now we're in a very tight wildcard race. Someone is going to have to lose. Hopefully it's the Twins and not us. That's what this thread is all about.

jenn2080
07-27-2006, 08:57 AM
If Minnesota beats the Tigers, that would keep them on our ass. We need them to lose so they won't be right on our tails anymore.

If the Twins take the series against the Tigers, that puts added pressure on the Sox. With things the way they are right now, these guys need to have fun and take things one game at a time.

With that said, I like that you have so much fire regarding the White Sox. I can appreciate that because I believe most of us have that same fire.


its a lose lose situation. Twins take series....we are giving them a piggy back ride they're so close...Detroit takes series we are picking grains of dust out of our teeth they are so far ahead. Ill just be happy for a win.

Thome25
07-27-2006, 09:12 AM
its a lose lose situation. Twins take series....we are giving them a piggy back ride they're so close...Detroit takes series we are picking grains of dust out of our teeth they are so far ahead. Ill just be happy for a win.

hahahahah Piggyback ride? Grains of dust out of our teeth? That's pretty funny. Your analogies made me laugh out loud.:D:

Seriously though, we are closer to the wildcard than the division. The only chance we have to win the division is if we get some help from Detroit and they have a monumental collapse and we start winning again. We don't contol our own destiny in the division anymore.

We DO control our own destiny in the wildcard though. We should worry about winning our own games first and foremost. If the Twins lose to Detroit, that would just help us even more.

samram
07-27-2006, 09:41 AM
I want the Twins to sweep while the Sox sweep the O's- the thought is still to win the division and the best way to get closer to doing that is getting the lead down to 5 1/2 going into August.:cool:

SoxFan78
07-27-2006, 10:16 AM
Who cares?

Doesn't matter who wins if the Sox can't beat the O's.

JermaineDye05
07-27-2006, 10:19 AM
who are the yanks playing?

bluestar
07-27-2006, 10:34 AM
As a baseball fan in general, I am looking forward to the Tigers-Twins series. As a Sox fan, I personally hope the Twins sweep the Tigers. I want every team to do whatever they can to bring the Tigers back to the pack. I want to see this turn into a three-team race, and I am not ready to concede the division title yet.

Of course, I definitely care more about the Sox getting out of this slump and winning again, but I'll definitely be watching the others series around baseball.

When you think about it, the Twins and Sox are in very similar positions. Both teams have three starters that can be very reliable. Both teams have two spots in the rotation that are shaky at best.

If the Sox can get back to playing decent baseball, this could turn out to be a very exciting race.

nysox35
07-27-2006, 10:41 AM
I am rooting for the Twins. We're dealing with more than MN in terms of the Wild Card, so I say why give up on the division?

If we sweep and the Twins sweep, we'd be 5.5 back of Detroit.
If we sweep and the Twins go 2 of 3, we'd be 6.5 back of Detroit.

The bottom line is with 19 games against those two teams, we can still make it happen with our own play.

MarySwiss
07-27-2006, 10:49 AM
who are the yanks playing?

Tampa Bay. :(: And the news just keeps getting better and better, doesn't it?

cbotnyse
07-27-2006, 10:51 AM
I'm hoping the Tigers take 2 of 3, and we sweep the Orioles. We gain one game on the Tigers and go two up on the Twins. Who's with me?I'm with ya.....but all I want is a nice long winning streak from the Sox. Please please please please, just win 3 games in a row, or take the next 2 series. please.

ma-gaga
07-27-2006, 10:52 AM
This should have been a "poll".

I think that you should root for the team that's behind in the standings to damage the division leader. :cool:

nysox35
07-27-2006, 10:52 AM
Tampa Bay. :(: And the news just keeps getting better and better, doesn't it?

You know, TB usually plays them tough and I believe they won the season series (or close) last year.
Every good team has someone they struggle with. It's TB for NYY.

jenn2080
07-27-2006, 10:55 AM
I'm with ya.....but all I want is a nice long winning streak from the Sox. Please please please please, just win 3 games in a row, or take the next 2 series. please.


im so desperate to see a win i may go to church later and pray and I havent been to church in years other then funerals.

It's Time
07-27-2006, 11:17 AM
If the White Sox win, they'll gain ground on someone. I don't care who wins that series one way or the other. The way the White Sox are playing, they should feel the same way.

MarySwiss
07-27-2006, 11:18 AM
You know, TB usually plays them tough and I believe they won the season series (or close) last year.
Every good team has someone they struggle with. It's TB for NYY.

Good point. I remember, too, that Tampa Bay had the Indians talking to themselves during the stretch run last year.

Go Tampa!

Malgar 12
07-27-2006, 11:23 AM
Personally, I don't give a damn what happens with the Tigers and Twins. There's still plenty of ball left to be resigned to worrying about what OTHER teams are doing.

We need to worry about our play. Win our games. If we do that day in and day out, we'll be where we are supposed to be in the end.

Amen! We can't pick up any games until we actually win.

viagracat
07-27-2006, 11:41 AM
Although I'm not quite yet ready to concede the division to Detroit, it looks like the playoffs for the Sox are going to come via the WC. Unfortunately, we're at the point where it will take much improved baseball by the Sox AND a collapse by Detroit for the Sox to catch up. Gaining 8 1/2 games is tough.

Even if the Tigers play .500 ball the rest of the way; they're going to win 99 or 100 games. The Sox, on the other hand, would have to go 41-21 to get to 100 wins. Can the Sox do that? Sure. Will Detroit suddenly become an average team? Don't bet on it.

Yes, I know the Sox almost blew a 15-game lead last year, so I understand it can be done and as I said, I'm not entirely writing off the division championship yet. You also know had the Sox actually gone ahead and blown it, it would have created a ****storm in MLB centered right here in Chicago that would still be talked about. And I also know that after the Sox got their swagger back last year after that slump, they were almost unbeatable, and I hope the same thing happens now.

Realistically speaking, though, the Sox, despite all the gloom and doom lately, are VERY MUCH alive for a playoff spot. But their main competition right now are the Yankees, Red Sox, Twins and maybe the Blue Jays. That's why I have to pull for anyone playing those teams to win. Yes, that includes Detroit at this time.

Of course, if the Sox don't figure it out soon, this entire discussion is moot.

Go Sox.

credefan24
07-27-2006, 11:49 AM
Personally, I don't give a damn what happens with the Tigers and Twins. There's still plenty of ball left to be resigned to worrying about what OTHER teams are doing.

We need to worry about our play. Win our games. If we do that day in and day out, we'll be where we are supposed to be in the end.

I'm with you. Great post! Now Lets GO GO White Sox.

tstrike2000
07-27-2006, 12:35 PM
The Tigers and Twins are facing off starting Friday. Which team do you think needs to win this series to help the White Sox chances?

Neither, but unfortunately that's not an option.

JermaineDye05
07-27-2006, 12:38 PM
Tampa Bay. :(: And the news just keeps getting better and better, doesn't it?

wait doesnt Tampa Bay actually kick the yanks ass?

Railsplitter
07-27-2006, 01:17 PM
Too bad it's not a four game series. They split, we sweep.

Ol' No. 2
07-27-2006, 01:35 PM
hahahahah Piggyback ride? Grains of dust out of our teeth? That's pretty funny. Your analogies made me laugh out loud.:D:

Seriously though, we are closer to the wildcard than the division. The only chance we have to win the division is if we get some help from Detroit and they have a monumental collapse and we start winning again. We don't contol our own destiny in the division anymore.

We DO control our own destiny in the wildcard though. We should worry about winning our own games first and foremost. If the Twins lose to Detroit, that would just help us even more.Detroit does not need a "monumental collapse" to be overtaken. Remember, the Sox played only about .500 ball in August and September last year. I wouldn't call .500 a "monumental collapse", but that would get the Tiggers only to 99 wins, which is a very reachable target for the Sox. They would need only to go 41-21 to get to 100 wins. But first they have to stop sucking...which brings us to the point most of the people on this thread have made. If the Sox don't stop sucking, it won't matter who wins in Minnesota.

Tiger23
07-27-2006, 01:40 PM
THE TIGERS!!! :smile:

In all sincerity, and without reading any of the posts yet, I am happy to see this thread as I wanted to start the same one myself to see what you all thought about this series. I was far too scared to do so however.

Ol' No. 2
07-27-2006, 01:44 PM
THE TIGERS!!! :smile:

In all sincerity, and without reading any of the posts yet, I am happy to see this thread as I wanted to start the same one myself to see what you all thought about this series. I was far too scared to do so however.If the Tigers have Kenny Rogers starting, that's one for the Twins right there. He may not win another game all year except against the Sox.

bluestar
07-27-2006, 01:52 PM
If the Tigers have Kenny Rogers starting, that's one for the Twins right there. He may not win another game all year except against the Sox.
He's not starting this series.

Pitching matchups:

Fri: Liriano vs. Miner - Definite edge to Twins here, except that the Tigers are one of the few teams, maybe the ONLY team, to have actually hit Liriano when he was a reliever. Miner is not looking too good these days.

Sat: Radke vs. Robertson - I call this one about even, except it is in the Metrodome where Radke has been very good lately. Robertson, on the other hand, is not looking that good lately.

Sun: Santana vs. Bonderman - Santana is at his best in the Metrodome, but has not been as dominant in his last couple of starts. If the Tigers want to continue their winning ways, I think Bonderman has to step up and take over the true "ace" role on this team. His experience and leadership are going to be required down the stretch. This should be a good game, but I give a slight edge to the Twins because it is in the Metrodome.

EDIT: Also, note the Twins are altering their rotation with the off day to skip the #5 spot.

Tiger23
07-27-2006, 01:53 PM
If the Tigers have Kenny Rogers starting, that's one for the Twins right there. He may not win another game all year except against the Sox.

I fixed it for ya. Its sad to see, but they guy getting so much credit for the Tigers pitching at the beginning of the year has become a major problem. and unlike Zach Miner, he will have a much longer grace period to lose games in.

Tiger23
07-27-2006, 01:59 PM
He's not starting this series.

Pitching matchups:

Fri: Liriano vs. Miner - Definite edge to Twins here, except that the Tigers are one of the few teams, maybe the ONLY team, to have actually hit Liriano when he was a reliever. Miner is not looking too good these days.

Sat: Radke vs. Robertson - I call this one about even, except it is in the Metrodome where Radke has been very good lately. Robertson, on the other hand, is not looking that good lately.

Sun: Santana vs. Bonderman - Santana is at his best in the Metrodome, but has not been as dominant in his last couple of starts. If the Tigers want to continue their winning ways, I think Bonderman has to step up and take over the true "ace" role on this team. His experience and leadership are going to be required down the stretch. This should be a good game, but I give a slight edge to the Twins because it is in the Metrodome.

Its been a long time since the Tigers looked like underdogs in every game of a series based on the pitching matchups. I've been telling people Detroit will be lucky to leave that place with one win.

Ol' No. 2
07-27-2006, 02:01 PM
I fixed it for ya. Its sad to see, but they guy getting so much credit for the Tigers pitching at the beginning of the year has become a major problem. and unlike Zach Miner, he will have a much longer grace period to lose games in.In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning. Rogers has always been a first half pitcher. This is a big part of the reason that people were predicting a second-half slide for the Tigers. Robertson seems to have remembered he's mediocre, too. About the only guy keeping it together is Bonderman.

bluestar
07-27-2006, 02:03 PM
In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning. Rogers has always been a first half pitcher. This is a big part of the reason that people were predicting a second-half slide for the Tigers. Robertson seems to have remembered he's mediocre, too. About the only guy keeping it together is Bonderman.

And Verlander.

nysox35
07-27-2006, 02:03 PM
Its been a long time since the Tigers looked like underdogs in every game of a series based on the pitching matchups. I've been telling people Detroit will be lucky to leave that place with one win.

I don't know about that. I agree that Friday is clearly edge Twins. I also would give Johan the edge at home, but Bonderman has been very good.
Saturday I think is about as 50-50 as it gets. That's just me though

bluestar
07-27-2006, 02:09 PM
Its been a long time since the Tigers looked like underdogs in every game of a series based on the pitching matchups. I've been telling people Detroit will be lucky to leave that place with one win.

Yes, and what's more is that for years the Twins have seemed to live for this kind of situation. They love playing the under-the-radar, "we're the neglected underdogs" role.

An example: a friend of mine that lives in Minneapolis sent me a message before yesterday's game telling me about how prior to the Sox-Twins series, the local television stations there were showing footage of Sox fans with brooms at the games earlier in the season when the Sox swept the Twins. He said everyone there was talking about how the Twins needed to sweep the Sox as vengance for the behavior of the Sox fans.

Now that your Tigers are the "hunted," expect the Twins to come at you with all they've got.

Ol' No. 2
07-27-2006, 02:10 PM
And Verlander.Verlander is already up to 130 IP. We'll see how well his arm holds up as he gets up to 200, but past experience with rookies is not promising.

Tiger23
07-27-2006, 02:10 PM
I don't know about that. I agree that Friday is clearly edge Twins. I also would give Johan the edge at home, but Bonderman has been very good.
Saturday I think is about as 50-50 as it gets. That's just me though

The thing that gives the Twins the edge Saturday IMO is that Radke has improved and is pitching at home where he has success, while Robertson has regressed lately.

bluestar
07-27-2006, 02:13 PM
Verlander is already up to 130 IP. We'll see how well his arm holds up as he gets up to 200, but past experience with rookies is not promising.

No argument there. He hasn't shown any signs of a letdown yet, though. I expect him to hit a dead-arm period at some point; every pitcher does, and being a rookie makes him especially susceptible. How he responds when he hasn't got his "stuff" will be another key for the Tigers down the stretch.

digdagdug23
07-27-2006, 02:35 PM
As a baseball fan in general, I am looking forward to the Tigers-Twins series. As a Sox fan, I personally hope the Twins sweep the Tigers. I want every team to do whatever they can to bring the Tigers back to the pack. I want to see this turn into a three-team race, and I am not ready to concede the division title yet.

Of course, I definitely care more about the Sox getting out of this slump and winning again, but I'll definitely be watching the others series around baseball.

When you think about it, the Twins and Sox are in very similar positions. Both teams have three starters that can be very reliable. Both teams have two spots in the rotation that are shaky at best.

If the Sox can get back to playing decent baseball, this could turn out to be a very exciting race.

I couldn't have said this any better myself. I was reading this thinking "twins, duh", then I read all the posts about wanting the Tigs to win, I thought about it, but it makes more sense to me if the Twins win, it puts everything closer. But, as was already said, if we can't pull off at least a series win of the O's, it doesn't really matter now, does it?

I don't want no stinking wild card, I want the division, dern it!

SoxFanPrope
07-27-2006, 02:48 PM
I'm intrigued by this series considering how well both teams are playing but I don't care too much as to who wins. Personally I'm rooting for each game to go 30 innings tiring out EVERYONE on each team, sending them both into a downward spiral on the season.

I guess that could be read in teal too.

jenn2080
07-27-2006, 02:59 PM
I couldn't have said this any better myself. I was reading this thinking "twins, duh", then I read all the posts about wanting the Tigs to win, I thought about it, but it makes more sense to me if the Twins win, it puts everything closer. But, as was already said, if we can't pull off at least a series win of the O's, it doesn't really matter now, does it?

I don't want no stinking wild card, I want the division, dern it!


i cant even think past this weekend let alone the playoffs. we need to focus on the prize at hand...and the prize for us right now is a damn win. once we get that then we can think about the wild card or the division. baby steps for the white sox. GO TWINS!

dirty_k
07-27-2006, 05:15 PM
It's still July. I might start to think about positioning in September. Til then any team that's up there and can get hot will be playoff bound. Sox just have to start winning. So I'm pulling for the Twinkies this weekend.

sox230
07-27-2006, 05:27 PM
Who do we root for in the Tigers/Twins series. I mean I know all the pros/cons of what could happen but it basically comes down to whether we eant to gain on first place, seeing that there are two months left (granted we would only gain if we win a game), or would we rather get an advantage on one of the TWO, maybe three with Toronto, teams in the hunt for the wild card. Additionally, do we root for a sweep, or 2 out of three. This was stumping me. I know we have to worry about ourselves first, and trust me, I am, but it's only natural to pay lots of attention to that series too.

BNLSox
07-27-2006, 05:31 PM
Root for splits.... Root for bad outings and a lot of bullpen usage. Root for inhouse fighting amongst our rivals. Do not root for injuries!

Above all root for our team to regroup and win win win

DaleJRFan
07-27-2006, 05:33 PM
As a fan of the game, a matchup of the league's two hottest teams would be a whole lot of fun to watch, rivals or not. I'm actually looking forward to the series.

DaleJRFan
07-27-2006, 05:34 PM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=76001

StatHead21
07-27-2006, 08:08 PM
Tigers, they have the division locked up. Twins, Yankees, and Blue Jays are who the Sox have to worry about.

jenn2080
07-27-2006, 08:56 PM
Tigers, they have the division locked up. Twins, Yankees, and Blue Jays are who the Sox have to worry about.


Very optimistic

Chips
07-27-2006, 09:01 PM
I am rooting for the Twins. We're dealing with more than MN in terms of the Wild Card, so I say why give up on the division?

If we sweep and the Twins sweep, we'd be 5.5 back of Detroit.
If we sweep and the Twins go 2 of 3, we'd be 6.5 back of Detroit.

The bottom line is with 19 games against those two teams, we can still make it happen with our own play.

I am also pulling for the damned Twins.

Ol' No. 2
07-27-2006, 09:02 PM
Tigers, they have the division locked up. Twins, Yankees, and Blue Jays are who the Sox have to worry about.Yeah. Who ever heard of a team blowing an 8 game lead over the last two months?:rolleyes:

sox1970
07-27-2006, 09:06 PM
If push comes to shove, I'd rather see the Tigers sweep the Twins. We'll worry about the Tigers when we face them. I'd like to get the wildcard lead back, but that will only happen if you take care of your own business.

sox1970
07-27-2006, 09:07 PM
Yeah. Who ever heard of a team blowing an 8 game lead over the last two months?:rolleyes:

The Sox had a 7 game lead on the Yankees and a 9 game lead on the Twins and Blue Jays--3 WEEKS AGO!!!

Grzegorz
07-27-2006, 10:27 PM
Its been a long time since the Tigers looked like underdogs in every game of a series based on the pitching matchups. I've been telling people Detroit will be lucky to leave that place with one win.

Jeez, did I miss something? Are the 2006 Twins the equivalent of the 1927 Yankees?

The Twins can be beat; the Twins will be beat.

StillMissOzzie
07-28-2006, 03:13 AM
hahahahah Piggyback ride? Grains of dust out of our teeth? That's pretty funny. Your analogies made me laugh out loud.:D:

Seriously though, we are closer to the wildcard than the division. The only chance we have to win the division is if we get some help from Detroit and they have a monumental collapse and we start winning again. We don't contol our own destiny in the division anymore.

We DO control our own destiny in the wildcard though. We should worry about winning our own games first and foremost. If the Twins lose to Detroit, that would just help us even more.

Your WHAT hurts? I think that the Sox still have enough games left vs. the Tigers and Twins to say that they still DO control their own destiny in the division. Furthermore, with the Yankees, Red Sox, and maybe even the Blue Jays in the AL East, the Sox most certainly do NOT control their own destiny w/r/t the wild card.

To my way of thinking, the division is still winnable. That means that the current division leader has to lose to help the Sox. Therefore, I am rooting for the Twins all the way. As long as the Sox win too to keep pace, it just tightens up the race. It's all a moot point if the Sox don't start taking care of their end of things, though. I do agree with THAT part of your post.

SMO
:gulp:

Nellie_Fox
07-28-2006, 03:34 AM
Jeez, did I miss something? Are the 2006 Twins the equivalent of the 1927 Yankees?

The Twins can be beat; the Twins will be beat.The Twins have the best home record (37-11) in baseball.

Chisox003
07-28-2006, 03:39 AM
Jeez, did I miss something? Are the 2006 Twins the equivalent of the 1927 Yankees?

The Twins can be beat; the Twins will be beat.
What Nellie said, coupled with the fact that Liriano and Radke are going this weekend.

For us to care what happens with the Twins/Tigers, the Sox need to win first and foremost. It doesn't matter what happens in this series if the Sox don't go into Baltimore and put up some W's.

So honestly, I don't care who wins there. I just know the Sox need to start rolling and NOW. Not in August, not when the Tigers/Twins hit a bump, but on this road trip. Baltimore and KC are teams that MUST be feasted upon.

CWSpalehoseCWS
07-28-2006, 04:02 AM
The Tigers and Twins are facing off starting Friday. Which team do you think needs to win this series to help the White Sox chances?

I personally think we need the Tigers to go into Minnesota this weekend and put the smackdown on the Twins. As of right now, it looks like our best chance at making the playoffs is as the wildcard team. So IMO we need the Twins to lose 2 of 3 or better yet, get swept.

I'm going to go the complete opposite. I think the Twins should sweep the Tigers. It puts us closer to the division lead, even though the Twins might pass up the Sox up. It could force a tight division race AND a tight Wild Card race. If the Sox were to take 2 of 3 from BAL of better yet sweep, the standings in the Central seem more favorable than if the Tigers took 2 out of 3 or sweep the Twins:

With sweep of both Tigers and Orioles:
Tigers - 68-36
Twins - 62-41 (5.5 G back)
Sox - 62-41 (5.5 G back)

This way, we still have a better chance to catch the Tigers if/once we start to play better.

With Sweep of the Twins and Orioles:
Tigers - 71-33
Sox - 62-41 (still 8.5 G back)
Twins - 59-44 (11.5 G back)

Grzegorz
07-28-2006, 05:47 AM
I believe the Tigers get them two out of three this weekend. I am sorry but on this board it seems as if it is a foregone conclusion that the Twins are AL Central, AL, & World Series Champions.

I am here to tell you that this will not happen. Santana and Liriano, and God knows Radke can be beaten.

To deify these guys is ridiculous. If that's the case, why play the games? Why not just concede the remaining games with the Twins to the Twins?

jenn2080
07-28-2006, 08:42 AM
I believe the Tigers get them two out of three this weekend. I am sorry but on this board it seems as if it is a foregone conclusion that the Twins are AL Central, AL, & World Series Champions.

I am here to tell you that this will not happen. Santana and Liriano, and God knows Radke can be beaten.

To deify these guys is ridiculous. If that's the case, why play the games? Why not just concede the remaining games with the Twins to the Twins?


Hmmm what? dont recall that at all. In case you didnt see the Twins have been kicking ass, but no one has said they are running away leaving everyone else in the dust

Ol' No. 2
07-28-2006, 10:39 AM
Jeez, did I miss something? Are the 2006 Twins the equivalent of the 1927 Yankees?

The Twins can be beat; the Twins will be beat.Jeez, did I miss something? Are the 2006 Tigers the equivalent of the 1927 Yankees?

The Tigers can be beat; the Tigers will be beat.

Works just as well that way.

bluestar
07-28-2006, 12:18 PM
I believe the Tigers get them two out of three this weekend. I am sorry but on this board it seems as if it is a foregone conclusion that the Twins are AL Central, AL, & World Series Champions.

I am here to tell you that this will not happen. Santana and Liriano, and God knows Radke can be beaten.

To deify these guys is ridiculous. If that's the case, why play the games? Why not just concede the remaining games with the Twins to the Twins?

I don't see where anyone "deified" anyone. No one said the Twins couldn't be beat. We are talking about one series where the red hot Twins have their three best pitchers going and are playing at their pathetic excuse for a baseball stadium where they usually play well against a Tigers team that will not be going with their three best pitchers. It is pretty obvious the Twins have to be the favorites to win the series. That is not to say the Twins are unbeatable. Jeez.

viagracat
07-28-2006, 12:33 PM
I believe the Tigers get them two out of three this weekend. I am sorry but on this board it seems as if it is a foregone conclusion that the Twins are AL Central, AL, & World Series Champions.

I am here to tell you that this will not happen. Santana and Liriano, and God knows Radke can be beaten.

To deify these guys is ridiculous. If that's the case, why play the games? Why not just concede the remaining games with the Twins to the Twins?

Can we all agree that both the Twins and Tigers are both playing very good ball right now and stop the histrionics? No one is conceding anything to anybody, it's generally agreed that both teams will have to be reckoned with the rest of the season, and we all know that whether the Sox will be in the hunt the rest of the way will depend on, well, the Sox. If the Sox play to their capabilities they should get into the playoffs; if they don't they wont. It's pretty simple really. This thread's starting to get kind of stupid.

ohiosoxfan12
07-28-2006, 10:05 PM
Who do we want to win this series or down the stretch? I just hope that they split, and we can start winning. Also, who would you rather have a playoff race with?

Twins Win
07-28-2006, 10:08 PM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=76001

sox1970
07-28-2006, 10:09 PM
Who do we want to win this series or down the stretch? I just hope that they split, and we can start winning. Also, who would you rather have a playoff race with?

The fact of the matter is it's going to take a miracle for the Tigers to lose the division. That said, go Tigers.

caulfield12
07-28-2006, 10:22 PM
Nathan is in, top of the 9th, 2 outs, runner on 1st

tie ballgame

doctorlecter
07-28-2006, 10:26 PM
Twins/Tigers tied in the ninth. Let's hope for a 36 inning game!

voodoochile
07-28-2006, 10:27 PM
I'm done watching scoreboards for a while. I just want some Sox victories. I figure the division is not lost so I am rooting for the Twinkies, but honestly I'm just going to follow the Sox and let the chips fall where they may.

Now if the Sox can rip off a nice 30-10 stretch I figure they will be just fine...

MrX
07-28-2006, 10:28 PM
1st & 2nd now for Inge

jenn2080
07-28-2006, 10:28 PM
Twins/Tigers tied in the ninth. Let's hope for a 36 inning game!


Soriano 12 strike outs

rowand33
07-28-2006, 10:30 PM
I'm done watching scoreboards for a while. I just want some Sox victories. I figure the division is not lost so I am rooting for the Twinkies, but honestly I'm just going to follow the Sox and let the chips fall where they may.

Now if the Sox can rip off a nice 30-10 stretch I figure they will be just fine...

I agree. I am done rooting against teams.

as far as this game, either team winning is bad. either team losing is good. I don't really care who wins those games.

I just want the Sox to make it to at least 95 wins, and if we don't make the playoffs with 95 wins, well... then we just got beat.

jenn2080
07-28-2006, 10:31 PM
is anyone watching sportsnite? if i ever hear gail say can i get a woo woo im gonna puke

infohawk
07-28-2006, 10:40 PM
Let's hope that the Tigers and Twins play a 20-inning game tonight or several extra-inning games this series so they wear each other down and tank for awhile.:D:

jenn2080
07-28-2006, 10:43 PM
Kitties just took the lead 3-2

batmanZoSo
07-28-2006, 10:45 PM
Kitties just took the lead 3-2

:rolleyes:

Thanks Twins.

MrRoboto83
07-28-2006, 10:54 PM
Kitties just took the lead 3-2

It's a final 3-2

Nellie_Fox
07-29-2006, 01:08 AM
I believe the Tigers get them two out of three this weekend. I am sorry but on this board it seems as if it is a foregone conclusion that the Twins are AL Central, AL, & World Series Champions.It seems as if some people on this board like to make an absurd statement that no one made, attribute it to the other posters, and then attack that statement. That's called a "straw man" argument.

Grzegorz
07-29-2006, 06:15 AM
It seems as if some people on this board like to make an absurd statement that no one made
BTW, Happy Birthday

No one individual has to specifically be quoted as making a statement about the greatness of the Twins in order to draw a general impression from a series of statements concerning the Twins.

I wasn't making an argument, I stated my opinion.

wassagstdu
07-29-2006, 09:57 AM
At this point it seems clear that both the Tigers and Twins are for real and very good teams. This is going to be a great race the rest of the way as the Sox get back to playing at the level we know they are capable of. I think it is much better to win against really good teams than to beat up on weaklings. Not to mention that the Sox seem to be better at the former than the latter.

.

Tragg
07-29-2006, 10:09 AM
At this point it seems clear that both the Tigers and Twins are for real and very good teams. This is going to be a great race the rest of the way as the Sox get back to playing at the level we know they are capable of. I think it is much better to win against really good teams than to beat up on weaklings. Not to mention that the Sox seem to be better at the former than the latter.

. I'd prefer it if the AL Central was like the NL East.
I don't know who to root for in this series...I'm not conceding our Central Title yet. The way I see it, if MB gets back on track we'll make the playoffs...if he doesn't, we won't....

bluestar
07-29-2006, 10:57 AM
The Twins-Tigers game last night was a classic, but I liked Gload's Grand Slam better. :D:

I thought it was funny (and typical) that Miner matched Liriano's performance, but ESPN focused their coverage exclusively on Liriano. On BBTN and Sportscenter, there was barely a mention of Miner, while they raved on and on about Liriano's brilliant performance.

I really didn't expect such a performance from Miner, who had struggled in his starts leading up to last night.

ma-gaga
07-29-2006, 01:05 PM
I thought it was funny (and typical) that Miner matched Liriano's performance, but ESPN focused their coverage exclusively on Liriano.

C'mon, Liriano is a candidate for Rookie of the Year and the Cy Young award. They gush about Verlander, Liriano, and Papelbon and rightly so. Liriano pitched a good game last night against a tough team.

Miner elevated his game. He had some wicked movement on his curve/slurve. I don't think I've seen balls break quite that hard in a long time.

Good game. :gulp:

Twins Win
07-29-2006, 01:22 PM
I thought it was funny (and typical) that Miner matched Liriano's performance, but ESPN focused their coverage exclusively on Liriano. On BBTN and Sportscenter, there was barely a mention of Miner, while they raved on and on about Liriano's brilliant performance.

What did Miner match Liriano at? Liriano pitched 8 innings, Miner Pitched 6. Liriano had 12 K's, Miner had 5. As far as runs yes they each gave up 2 runs but again Liriano pitched more innings. If the stats would have been turned around they would have talked about Miners performance.

102605
07-29-2006, 01:24 PM
What did Miner match Liriano at? Liriano pitched 8 innings, Miner Pitched 6. Liriano had 12 K's, Miner had 5. As far as runs yes they each gave up 2 runs but again Liriano pitched more innings. If the stats would have been turned around they would have talked about Miners performance.

:whiner::whiner::whiner:

FloridaTigers
07-29-2006, 04:30 PM
Haha. He matched Liriano in terms of shutting down the other team. He got the job done, and only kept them to two runs. I knew if we could keep the Twins to just one or two runs, our bats could get it down. I just thought after that first, we'd score some more before the 10th inning.

rowand33
07-29-2006, 09:13 PM
man, the Tigers pitching is getting beat up lately

Chips
07-29-2006, 09:17 PM
man, the Tigers pitching is getting beat up lately

Too bad the Twins pitching is getting roughed up today also.

Pierzynski 12
07-29-2006, 09:40 PM
7-5 Tigers. Top of 9th.:gulp:

Pierzynski 12
07-29-2006, 09:43 PM
Maggs with a sac fly. 8-5 Tigers.

MrX
07-29-2006, 09:57 PM
Where was this non-clutch hitting for the Twins against us?

MrX
07-29-2006, 09:59 PM
Mauer singles in a run.

8-6 now

1st & 3rd 2 outs

Chips
07-29-2006, 10:01 PM
Mauer singles in a run.

8-6 now

1st & 3rd 2 outs

And that's the game. ****ing Tigers. ****ing Twins

MrX
07-29-2006, 10:01 PM
Cuddyer strikes out swinging to end it

bluestar
07-29-2006, 10:05 PM
Okay, I'm am finished doubting the Tigers. They just took a series from what was the hottest team in baseball in their ridiculous dome where they are very, very tough to beat.

The only way the Sox are going to win this division is to beat this Tigers team head-to-head. If we aren't good enough to do that, then I tip my hat to 'em.

whitesoxfan
07-29-2006, 10:15 PM
On the bright side, we now have 2 games between us and the Twinkies.

Let's hope for a Sox win and a Tigers loss tomorrow so we can say we gained a game on the division leader and put 2 games between us and the team chasing us in one weekend.

RadioheadRocks
07-29-2006, 10:18 PM
On the bright side, we now have 2 games between us and the Twinkies.

Let's hope for a Sox win and a Tigers loss tomorrow so we can say we gained a game on the division leader and put 2 games between us and the team chasing us in one weekend.

My sentiments exactly! :D:

ma-gaga
07-31-2006, 11:53 AM
well, for a Twins fan that was depressing. The Tigers are a pretty damn good team. They 'should have' swept the series. It took a 3 infield hits, a fielding gaffe and a balk for the Twins to salvage a game.

Anyways, Friday's game was the key to the series. The Tigers took it, and took away the Twins' momentum. I was at Saturday's game, but missed what happened to Radke, (damn kid :cool: ) but it was pretty ugly. The saving grace was that the Twins rallied and put the tying run on first before the end of the game, and were "this close" (fingers an inch apart) from tying/winning it. And Santana looked mortal on Sunday.

Tigers = damn good. I love Zumaya. He was hitting "00" on the radar gun. Phew, now the Twins get to a couple of lesser teams. We'll see if they can keep their play elevated.

:gulp: Damn Yankees.