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BeviBall!
07-18-2006, 08:34 PM
Take that Fruit of the Loom guy!

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5089/redshirtiv3.jpg

Palehose13
07-18-2006, 08:35 PM
Woo-hoo!!! Now it's time to go get some dinner. :cool:

NSSoxFan
07-18-2006, 08:35 PM
So, um, this is the best team in baseball?

peeonwrigley
07-18-2006, 08:35 PM
Sit down Kitties.

SoxFan76
07-18-2006, 08:36 PM
So, um, this is the best team in baseball?

I'm sorry, I KNOW they're for real, but when I look at that team...I'm just not scared.

(I know, I know. Sounds familiar...)

BeviBall!
07-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Strong starting pitching by #20, clutch hitting all around, dominance over Tigers continue.

4th Gen. Sox Fan
07-18-2006, 08:36 PM
:winner

gbergman
07-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Sit down darkclouds

hi im skot
07-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Niiiiiiiice!

Jon!
Paulie!
Crede!
McCarthy!
Matt effin' Thornton!

Way to go guys!

Harry Potter
07-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Take that Fruit of the Loom guy!

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5089/redshirtiv3.jpg

Seriously, how annoying was that guy. Great W for the Sox :supernana:

Jurr
07-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Impressive what a little focus will do for you. Instead of being gunned for, the Sox came out gunning for the Tigers, and their talent was on showcase tonight. At least one more win in this series, and the Dark Clouds will be choking down the bowls of oral diarreah that they spewed all weekend.

Cue the banana.
:bandance:

Murphy10
07-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Spectacular game all around for the sox. But Jon Garland was just fabulous

jdm2662
07-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Very nice win. Garland has been pretty good lately, so I was hoping it would show tonight. By far his best game of the season. One down, two to go.

havelj
07-18-2006, 08:37 PM
Nice can of whoop-ass. Grab some dinner and let's get a good one by Javier tomorrow.

SABRSox
07-18-2006, 08:37 PM
:winner

and

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=4364&d=1147671384

QCIASOXFAN
07-18-2006, 08:37 PM
That is the kind of shutdown pitching performance we needed.

NU Nish 13
07-18-2006, 08:38 PM
Hahaha...great thread title

There reached a point with that guy where it stopped being annoying and it just became comical...he seemed to pick up intensity with his shirt waving as Thornton went for the final outs in the 9th

GO SOX...great performance all around

voodoochile
07-18-2006, 08:38 PM
:winner

:jon:
"I got your Judy right here..."

:walnuts
"Now Jon, be nice... Here, let me help you out... I got sunshine... on a cloudy day..."

:):supernana:

Corlose 15
07-18-2006, 08:38 PM
Outstanding job by Garland. He gave this team exactly what it needed, a nice quality start and the offense gets back on track. Time for Javy and Jose to follow it up.

VenturaFan23
07-18-2006, 08:38 PM
We still own this team. They can't play the Royals every day!

Kogs35
07-18-2006, 08:38 PM
wonderful game by jon garland, and thank you pauly and crede for breakin out the offense. :bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :gulp:

soxinthecity
07-18-2006, 08:39 PM
Let's do it again tomorrow nice game all around:bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :supernana:

ChiWavDave
07-18-2006, 08:39 PM
Somebody said it earlier, FOCUS! Well done. Now if I see Garland lumped into a list of those that aren't performing one more time... Im going postal. He's been our best pitcher by far since June 1... Its all on Vasquez manana, if he can get it done. Contreras during a day game is a gimme!

Great Job!

NDSox12
07-18-2006, 08:39 PM
Take that Fruit of the Loom guy!

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5089/redshirtiv3.jpg

Nice work! You have obviously mastered paintbrush to pull that off so quickly!

Grzegorz
07-18-2006, 08:39 PM
I love to see Garland put a stopper in this losing streak.

Crede, Konerko, and Anderson (nice play in the third coming in on a sinking liner plus his hitting streak is stays alive).

The White Sox needed a strong performance from Garland tonight and he delivered.

Jon Garland; tonight's player of the game.

Go get 'em tomorrow boys!!!

batmanZoSo
07-18-2006, 08:39 PM
pwned.

jenn2080
07-18-2006, 08:39 PM
So, um, this is the best team in baseball?


lets not get ahead of ourselves.

nebraskasox
07-18-2006, 08:40 PM
AHHH! That's better. We need Vazquez to piitch like he did earlier in the season. If he can, we can make a real dent in the Detroit armor.

sox1970
07-18-2006, 08:41 PM
I'd like to call this the biggest win of the year so far.

Garland--big kudos. Need to have Vazquez jump on board tomorrow.

JB98
07-18-2006, 08:41 PM
Sox show their experience, step up and play great in a much-hyped game tonight. We were solid in all facets. All you folks who posted about "Judy Garland" earlier this season have some explaining to do. Jon is 9-3, and that's outstanding for a No. 4 starter.

Let's get 'em again tomorrow. Go Sox!

delben91
07-18-2006, 08:41 PM
Outstanding game all around tonight, offense, defense, and most importantly, pitching.

Javy is beyond due for a good one. Tomorrow sounds like a good time for him to kick it up a notch. :cool:

BeviBall!
07-18-2006, 08:41 PM
Nice work! You have obviously mastered paintbrush to pull that off so quickly!

I had it ready in the 7th!

Mohoney
07-18-2006, 08:41 PM
How about Jim Thome beating the shift, poking the ball into left that set up Paulie's 3 run blast?

If Thome can poke outside pitches into left like that for the rest of the season, watch out.

kwolf68
07-18-2006, 08:41 PM
Tonights game demonstrates why the Sox won't or need to make any deals. Our weakness this year has been inconsistent pitching...Garland earlier, now Mark and Freddie ... however, these are champion pitchers with big gold rings on their finger that shows they have what it takes to get it done.

We have to trust they will get it going. Garland is definately showing signs...now we wait for Mark and Freddie to find their groove and we can start marching. :bandance:

TheOldRoman
07-18-2006, 08:42 PM
HELL YEAH!

It is nice to smack the Tigers around, but more importantly, we played a very good game, and we beat a lefty. We are the best team in baseball, no matter what the standings say. I could care less what the Tigers do, because as long as we play White Sox baseball (which we haven't of late), we will win the division. Hopefully this game helps the Sox turn it around.

Let's come back tomorrow and punch them in the mouth again.:bandance:

Corlose 15
07-18-2006, 08:42 PM
Sox show their experience, step up and play great in a much-hyped game tonight. We were solid in all facets. All you folks who posted about "Judy Garland" earlier this season have some explaining to do. Jon is 9-3, and that's outstanding for a No. 4 starter.

Let's get 'em again tomorrow. Go Sox!

Now Garland did outstanding and all tonight and he's been very good lately but using wins to mark a pitcher's effectiveness is hardly a solid argument.

Hell, Vazquez has 9 wins and he's been garbage for a month and a half.

Timmy D's
07-18-2006, 08:42 PM
Bud Light presents real men of genious.....

Today we salute you Mr. really annoying red sweatshirt waving fan.

DeadMoney
07-18-2006, 08:42 PM
That was fun. Good game all around the diamond.


And on another note, did that say 101 MPH on Anderson's line drive up the middle?

Brian26
07-18-2006, 08:43 PM
Take that Fruit of the Loom guy!

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5089/redshirtiv3.jpg

Love the title of this thread. That's brilliant!

thomas35forever
07-18-2006, 08:43 PM
Great game by our Sox tonight. Garland, Dye, and Konerko were all key contributors. Watching that division lead shrink is music to my ears. Let's get 'em again tomorrow!!!!:bandance:

viagracat
07-18-2006, 08:44 PM
Excellent!

Do it again tomorrow.

:)

voodoochile
07-18-2006, 08:44 PM
Now Garland did outstanding and all tonight and he's been very good lately but using wins to mark a pitcher's effectiveness is hardly a solid argument.

Hell, Vazquez has 9 wins and he's been garbage for a month and a half.

Name a more important stat...

Jurr
07-18-2006, 08:45 PM
Tonights game demonstrates why the Sox won't or need to make any deals. Our weakness this year has been inconsistent pitching...Garland earlier, now Mark and Freddie ... however, these are champion pitchers with big gold rings on their finger that shows they have what it takes to get it done.

We have to trust they will get it going. Garland is definately showing signs...now we wait for Mark and Freddie to find their groove and we can start marching. :bandance:
Tonight's game demonstrates that this team was cruising into the All Star break and lost their edge. Nobody was focusing on what they had to do, especially the pitchers. After some humiliation, they came out pissed off and took care of business. Let's see it carry over tomorrow. After having the statements made at their expense all week, it's time for the Sox to make some statements of their own.

kwolf68
07-18-2006, 08:45 PM
Also glad to see Ozzie didn't get cute with the lineup even against a solid lefty. Pods and AJ were in there. They didn't do anything of earth-shattering note, but there is a chemistry when those guys are out there.

I like to see Ozzie employ this same thinking tomorrow by starting Brian Anderson in center against a righty.

TheOldRoman
07-18-2006, 08:45 PM
Name a more important stat...
K/9

JB98
07-18-2006, 08:45 PM
Now Garland did outstanding and all tonight and he's been very good lately but using wins to mark a pitcher's effectiveness is hardly a solid argument.

Hell, Vazquez has 9 wins and he's been garbage for a month and a half.

Garland is 5-0 with an ERA of 3.34 in his last six starts. Is that solid enough for you? After Contreras, he's our best pitcher.

jenn2080
07-18-2006, 08:46 PM
Now Garland did outstanding and all tonight and he's been very good lately but using wins to mark a pitcher's effectiveness is hardly a solid argument.

Hell, Vazquez has 9 wins and he's been garbage for a month and a half.


I said the same exact thing yesterday I believe when someone tried to say our pitching was find and showed their records. You cant judge a pitcher by their records. I def will say Jon has been kicking ass as of late. Keep it going.

LongLiveFisk
07-18-2006, 08:46 PM
Phew!! Maybe now a few Sox fans can back away from the ledge. At least for the next 24 hours. :D:

Great job, Sox!! Make it two in a row tomorrow! :gulp: :bandance:

cwsfannick
07-18-2006, 08:46 PM
It was good to see the offense have some clutch 2 out hits today. It seemed like the Yankees and Red Sox killed the palehose after 2 outs in the past 6 games.

Garland was solid tonight. I believe he has been our best starter in the past few weeks.

Tiger hitters appear to have a problem with the off speed and breaking balls. Let's hope Javy has the bug bunny curve ball working tomorrow. 1 down 2 to go. Go Sox!!!!

Blueprint1
07-18-2006, 08:46 PM
That was a great game. Way to go Jon.

Corlose 15
07-18-2006, 08:47 PM
Name a more important stat...

If a pitcher gives up 12 runs and your team wins 13-12 it doesn't mean he's pitching well. For the team obviously the most important stat is the W.

Jurr
07-18-2006, 08:47 PM
In other news, the Yank-mees are in trouble going into the bottom of nine.

itsnotrequired
07-18-2006, 08:47 PM
Take that Fruit of the Loom guy!

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5089/redshirtiv3.jpg

I only caught the last three innings on TV. Was he waving the shirt for the whole game?

Brian26
07-18-2006, 08:47 PM
6 of 7 from the Tigers this year.

jenn2080
07-18-2006, 08:48 PM
Garland is 5-0 with an ERA of 3.34 in his last six starts. Is that solid enough for you? After Contreras, he's our best pitcher.


What they are saying isnt that Garland is crap just that you cant go off their records. Yes Jon's been great his last six starts and has def came around. His ERA is def solid and is now are most reliable pitcher next to Jose

jenn2080
07-18-2006, 08:48 PM
I only caught the last three innings on TV. Was he waving the shirt for the whole game?

yes the whole ****ing game!!!!!!!!:angry: :angry: :angry:

Corlose 15
07-18-2006, 08:49 PM
Garland is 5-0 with an ERA of 3.34 in his last six starts. Is that solid enough for you? After Contreras, he's our best pitcher.

I'm not arguing with you that Garland hasn't been effective, I'm just saying that because he has 9 wins doesn't necessarily mean he's pitching well.

MrX
07-18-2006, 08:49 PM
Big Jon shaves a quarter point off of his ERA.

Good to see clutch hits after what happened Sunday

NoShoesJoe
07-18-2006, 08:49 PM
How about Jim Thome beating the shift, poking the ball into left that set up Paulie's 3 run blast?

If Thome can poke outside pitches into left like that for the rest of the season, watch out.

You bet, that was one of the best clutch at-bats. Great job hitting, Jimmyyyyyy!!!!

itsnotrequired
07-18-2006, 08:49 PM
yes the whole ****ing game!!!!!!!!:angry: :angry: :angry:

:o:

What an ass. How about that usher looking at him the whole time and doing nothing? I would have no problem turning in a Sox fan doing the same thing.

voodoochile
07-18-2006, 08:50 PM
I'm not arguing with you that Garland hasn't been effective, I'm just saying that because he has 9 wins doesn't necessarily mean he's pitching well.

Just well enough...

batmanZoSo
07-18-2006, 08:50 PM
Name a more important stat...

:rolleyes:

Don't even bother..

jenn2080
07-18-2006, 08:50 PM
:o:

What an ass. How about that usher looking at him the whole time and doing nothing? I would have no problem turning in a Sox fan doing the same thing.

Jabba the Hut sat there and did nothing

JB98
07-18-2006, 08:50 PM
If a pitcher gives up 12 runs and your team wins 13-12 it doesn't mean he's pitching well. For the team obviously the most important stat is the W.

Jon hasn't been winning 13-12. Here are the final scores of the last six Garland starts:

6/13: Sox 5, Texas 2
6/18: Sox 8, Cincinnati 1
6/24: Sox 6, Houston 5
6/30: Sox 6, Cubs 2
7/5: Sox 4, Orioles 2
7/18: Sox 7, Tigers 1

batmanZoSo
07-18-2006, 08:51 PM
In other news, the Yank-mees are in trouble going into the bottom of nine.

Yes! Our wild card lead might go back up. :D:

PaleHosed
07-18-2006, 08:51 PM
yes the whole ****ing game!!!!!!!!:angry: :angry: :angry:

Odd...I didn't notice him watching the whole game...maybe because i was watching Detroit's broadcast. Different camera angles maybe? Where was the guy sitting?

cbotnyse
07-18-2006, 08:53 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/sun.gif

jenn2080
07-18-2006, 08:53 PM
Jon hasn't been winning 13-12. Here are the final scores of the last six Garland starts:

6/13: Sox 5, Texas 2
6/18: Sox 8, Cincinnati 1
6/24: Sox 6, Houston 5
6/30: Sox 6, Cubs 2
7/5: Sox 4, Orioles 2
7/18: Sox 7, Tigers 1


The point is being missed...NO ONE IS KNOCKING GARLAND!

What the point is is how the heck can you say pitchers are pitching good if they are giving up a **** ton of runs. They arent pitching well enough the offense is just doing all the work.

3rdgensoxfan
07-18-2006, 08:53 PM
Nice win. Now the real question is: Can Vazquez pitch fast and efficiently?

Nothing like a 2.5 hour game.

cwsfannick
07-18-2006, 08:53 PM
Anybody think AJ should move further down the line up when facing lefties? Move Crede behind Dye. I have to believe this would give Dye some protection. Any thoughts?

jenn2080
07-18-2006, 08:54 PM
Odd...I didn't notice him watching the whole game...maybe because i was watching Detroit's broadcast. Different camera angles maybe? Where was the guy sitting?


in the scout seats i am guessing on the first base side.

cheezheadsoxfan
07-18-2006, 08:54 PM
Phew!! Maybe now a few Sox fans can back away from the ledge. At least for the next 24 hours. :D:

Great job, Sox!! Make it two in a row tomorrow! :gulp: :bandance:
Yeah, now I can eat, sleep, etc. Nice to not only have a win but to have the lead all the way with no nailbitting.

Corlose 15
07-18-2006, 08:55 PM
Jon hasn't been winning 13-12. Here are the final scores of the last six Garland starts:

6/13: Sox 5, Texas 2
6/18: Sox 8, Cincinnati 1
6/24: Sox 6, Houston 5
6/30: Sox 6, Cubs 2
7/5: Sox 4, Orioles 2
7/18: Sox 7, Tigers 1

You're misunderstanding me. Jon has been great the last month or so and he's really coming around. I'M NOT RIPPING ON JON GARLAND. I'm just saying that, "Pitcher X has 9 wins so therefore he must be pitching well" is a faulty argument.

delben91
07-18-2006, 08:55 PM
in the scout seats i am guessing on the first base side.

Comerica Park calls them scout seats too? :wink:

Brian26
07-18-2006, 08:56 PM
Odd...I didn't notice him watching the whole game...maybe because i was watching Detroit's broadcast. Different camera angles maybe? Where was the guy sitting?

The usher had his back to the camera the entire time at the bottom of the row. That usher is placed there by Comerica security for the sole purpose of keeping people from doing funky things on camera, like calling people on their cell phones and waving. I went to games last year at Comerica and saw it firsthand. The ushers are supposed to stop that ridiculous behavior. I'm blown away he let that happen for the entire game.

Jurr
07-18-2006, 08:58 PM
The usher had his back to the camera the entire time at the bottom of the row. That usher is placed there by Comerica security for the sole purpose of keeping people from doing funky things on camera, like calling people on their cell phones and waving. I went to games last year at Comerica and saw it firsthand. The ushers are supposed to stop that ridiculous behavior. I'm blown away he let that happen for the entire game.
Hell, they've let those morons in Oakland wave those flags in the backdrop forever. Ludicrous.

monkeypants
07-18-2006, 08:58 PM
When the hell did Jason Grilli become good? He looked impressive tonight.

NoShoesJoe
07-18-2006, 08:59 PM
The usher had his back to the camera the entire time at the bottom of the row. That usher is placed there by Comerica security for the sole purpose of keeping people from doing funky things on camera, like calling people on their cell phones and waving. I went to games last year at Comerica and saw it firsthand. The ushers are supposed to stop that ridiculous behavior. I'm blown away he let that happen for the entire game.

Why? He's probably a kitty fan.

Timmy D's
07-18-2006, 08:59 PM
Comerica Park calls them scout seats too? :wink:

Comerica calls them the "ghetto loungers"

JB98
07-18-2006, 08:59 PM
You're misunderstanding me. Jon has been great the last month or so and he's really coming around. I'M NOT RIPPING ON JON GARLAND. I'm just saying that, "Pitcher X has 9 wins so therefore he must be pitching well" is a faulty argument.

Fine. Let me rephrase. Garland has started 18 games this season, and the Sox have won 12 of those games. Most teams will kill to be 12-6 with their No. 4 starter on the mound.

Frankly Missing
07-18-2006, 09:00 PM
Odd...I didn't notice him watching the whole game...maybe because i was watching Detroit's broadcast. Different camera angles maybe? Where was the guy sitting?

I had the Detroit broadcast also, I guess you just didn't notice, he was there the whole game. what a dweeb.

Jurr
07-18-2006, 09:00 PM
In other news, the Yank-mees are in trouble going into the bottom of nine.
Yeah...let me run my dumb ass mouth too soon. The Yanks are coming back off of JJ Putz. Emphasis on Putz.

rowand33
07-18-2006, 09:00 PM
White Sox Winner! Great game. I just hope Javy is at least ok tomorrow.

now, for my fantasy team's sake and for the Sox sake, let's hope JJ Putz locks this thing down and the Yankees lose so we can gain ground in the wild card AND the division.

Bucky F. Dent
07-18-2006, 09:02 PM
Great Win for the Sox!

TaquitoElGoocho
07-18-2006, 09:02 PM
Robertson striking out the first three batters in the 1st inning had me a wee bit concerned, but the Sox prevailed because of great teamwork!
:bandance:

Go get em tomorrow!

cburns
07-18-2006, 09:02 PM
Anybody think AJ should move further down the line up when facing lefties? Move Crede behind Dye. I have to believe this would give Dye some protection. Any thoughts?

I say keep the lineup as is. I would rather not have 3 righthanders in a row. Plus, the Sox don't need to tinker their lineup, they lead the bigs in runs scored.

Corlose 15
07-18-2006, 09:02 PM
Fine. Let me rephrase. Garland has started 18 games this season, and the Sox have won 12 of those games. Most teams will kill to be 12-6 with their No. 4 starter on the mound.

Sounds good.:D:

Jurr
07-18-2006, 09:04 PM
Fine. Let me rephrase. Garland has started 18 games this season, and the Sox have won 12 of those games. Most teams will kill to be 12-6 with their No. 4 starter on the mound.
Let's rephrase again. Jon Garland just hung a one spot on the Tigers, the team with the best record in baseball. Ahhhhhhhhhh......

sox1970
07-18-2006, 09:04 PM
1st base umpire blew a call in the Yankees game. 1st and 3rd 1 out 4-3 Mariners.

thomas35forever
07-18-2006, 09:05 PM
Robertson striking out the first three batters in the 1st inning had me a wee bit concerned, but the Sox prevailed because of great teamwork!
:bandance:

Go get em tomorrow!
Actually, Iguchi grounded out that inning.

oeo
07-18-2006, 09:05 PM
Hey everybody...GET OFF THE LEDGE, the Sox are a good team and they showed it (first time in awhile) tonight.

Now, don't let up, go get them again tomorrow. Javy, please be on your game.

itsnotrequired
07-18-2006, 09:06 PM
Yeah...let me run my dumb ass mouth too soon. The Yanks are coming back off of JJ Putz. Emphasis on Putz.

Tie game in the Bronx.

rowand33
07-18-2006, 09:06 PM
Tie game in the Bronx.

I dunno if anybody watched that inning, but it should be over.

Posada was out at first on a straight up horrible call by the ump.

sox1970
07-18-2006, 09:06 PM
Tie game in the Bronx.

Rain delay coming...

TaquitoElGoocho
07-18-2006, 09:06 PM
Actually, Iguchi grounded out that inning.

Granted, I was driving, but I've got to pay attention to the game a little more.

:redface:

batmanZoSo
07-18-2006, 09:07 PM
Comerica calls them the "ghetto loungers"

:roflmao:

HerzogVon
07-18-2006, 09:08 PM
WTG, JG!!! You were the silver lining in my dark cloud! Now let's hope this helps pick up the entire staff. :smile:

cburns
07-18-2006, 09:09 PM
Liriano has thrown 80 pitches through 7 innings. Only 2 hits given up. Not to look past the Tigers since they are in first place, but the Twins have been playing great ball lately.

veeter
07-18-2006, 09:10 PM
They responded like the true champs that they are.

cburns
07-18-2006, 09:15 PM
Liriano has thrown 80 pitches through 7 innings. Only 2 hits given up. Not to look past the Tigers since they are in first place, but the Twins have been playing great ball lately.

Make that 91 through 8.

SOXSINCE'70
07-18-2006, 09:21 PM
A possible conversation between "South Park" 's Cartman,Stan and Kyle
after the White Sox 7-1 win against the Kitties:

Cartman: HOO-RAY!!:bandance:
Stan : That was awesome,dude.
Kyle: Jon Garland rocks!!
Cartman: **** Garland!! Konerko had 4 RBI's
and 2 home runs!!
Stan:McCarthy and Thornton looked good
coming out of the pen.
Cartman: Konerko with the long ball!
Kyle: Pitching wins championships,*******.
Cartman (angry): Screw you,hippie!! I don't have to
take this anymore!! Screw you guys,i'm going home!!

No word on Kenny.He celebrated this Sox victory so
vigorously,his heart burst,killing him instantly::tongue:
Stan:"Oh my God,they killed Kenny!!"
Kyle: "You Bastards!!":bandance:

goon
07-18-2006, 09:23 PM
the twins are only good when they play at home.



print it.

batmanZoSo
07-18-2006, 09:25 PM
the twins are only good when they play at home.



print it.

*prints it*

thomas35forever
07-18-2006, 09:26 PM
If Carl Skanberg's reading this, he needs to make a strip about the shirt-waving guy.

BeviBall!
07-18-2006, 09:27 PM
Love the title of this thread. That's brilliant!
Thanks... but it's been modified :(:

What happened to "Red Shirts At Night, Sox Fans Delight?" I was proud of that. Answers... I demand answers!

JGarlandrules20
07-18-2006, 09:27 PM
So, I'm guessing I wasn't the only one that wanted to strangle the guy waving the red shirt. Ahhh.

Jon Garland is a stud! That was a pretty win. :smile:

SoxShirt
07-18-2006, 09:30 PM
What was the guy doing with that shirt? I was listening to the game so I didn't see any of it...

Lip Man 1
07-18-2006, 09:30 PM
That's one.

Here's hoping they beat the 'ESPN curse' the next few nights. So far the only other help they've gotten is that Texas beat Toronto.

No help from the Royals (naturally), Tampa Bay (of course) and the Marinators who haven't scored since the 5th.

And CBurns...you're right they are something like 28-7 or so since mid June.

Lip

goon
07-18-2006, 09:31 PM
*prints it*

seriously though, that dome should be imploded forcing the twins to play outside exposing the true team that they are: two dominant starting pitchers and a solid-hitting catcher. it's one thing to win games at home because you play well there, it's another to win games at home because your stadium is a big gimmick. i don't like the twins.

TornLabrum
07-18-2006, 09:31 PM
Impressive what a little focus will do for you. Instead of being gunned for, the Sox came out gunning for the Tigers, and their talent was on showcase tonight. At least one more win in this series, and the Dark Clouds will be choking down the bowls of oral diarreah that they spewed all weekend.

Cue the banana.
:bandance:

I disagree. If we win two out of three, the dark clouds will be bitching that we only gained a game on them and we're still 3.5 games out.

I know the DCs around here.

1917
07-18-2006, 09:31 PM
Make that 91 through 8.

I'll worry about him next week, this thread is to applaud the Sox great victory tonight! Way to go guys!

Lip Man 1
07-18-2006, 09:32 PM
Hal:

Considering they way they played this weekend I'd be grateful for two of three (provided the Yankees lost a friggin' game :D: )

Lip

StillMissOzzie
07-18-2006, 09:35 PM
It was good to see the offense have some clutch 2 out hits today. It seemed like the Yankees and Red Sox killed the palehose after 2 outs in the past 6 games.

Garland was solid tonight. I believe he has been our best starter in the past few weeks.

Tiger hitters appear to have a problem with the off speed and breaking balls. Let's hope Javy has the bug bunny curve ball working tomorrow. 1 down 2 to go. Go Sox!!!!

Amen, brother. Lost amid a strong Garland performance and the later HR barrage that sealed the deal, the first 2 runs came on clutch 2 out hits. That's been sorely lacking, and especially something that the Yankmees got a lot of, in the sweep. Maybe now it's the Sox turn for a sweep!

SMO
:gulp:

BadBobbyJenks
07-18-2006, 09:36 PM
Seriously, how annoying was that guy. Great W for the Sox :supernana:


The entire game my eyes kept focusing on that damn red shirt. I wanted to punch that ****ing clown right in the face. Jon Garland is what now 5-0 in his last 6 starts? Paulie Konerko apparently OWNS robertson. The whitesox for that matter OWN the tiggers.


Now we just need to win tomorrow so the clouds dont have a reason to come back

jongarlandlover
07-18-2006, 09:38 PM
i just loooooooved jon's outing tonight! that was amazing. :D: i love that man.

and what's with the facial hair? i mean, scottie with a mustache? ew!

TornLabrum
07-18-2006, 09:39 PM
The point is being missed...NO ONE IS KNOCKING GARLAND!

What the point is is how the heck can you say pitchers are pitching good if they are giving up a **** ton of runs. They arent pitching well enough the offense is just doing all the work.

The point is that Garland hasn't been doing that since MAY.

Brian26
07-18-2006, 09:40 PM
Thanks... but it's been modified :(:

What happened to "Red Shirts At Night, Sox Fans Delight?" I was proud of that. Answers... I demand answers!

What the heck happened to the title?

Brian26
07-18-2006, 09:41 PM
Hal:

Considering they way they played this weekend I'd be grateful for two of three (provided the Yankees lost a friggin' game :D: )

Lip

Have more confidence in the Sox. They owned the Tigers by winning 5 of 6 before this series even started. I'll be disappointed if we don't sweep them.

itsnotrequired
07-18-2006, 09:42 PM
Thanks... but it's been modified :(:

What happened to "Red Shirts At Night, Sox Fans Delight?" I was proud of that. Answers... I demand answers!

Bring back the old title!

:bandance:

FarWestChicago
07-18-2006, 09:42 PM
That's one.

Here's hoping they beat the 'ESPN curse' the next few nights. So far the only other help they've gotten is that Texas beat Toronto.

No help from the Royals (naturally), Tampa Bay (of course) and the Marinators who haven't scored since the 5th.

And CBurns...you're right they are something like 28-7 or so since mid June.

LipThe Master. The One and Only. The True Sith Lord. Lip!!

All depressoids pale compared to thee!! :thumbsup:

:darkcloud:

:darkclouds:

wassagstdu
07-18-2006, 09:43 PM
That was HUGE. Garland gets a star on his hat.

.

oeo
07-18-2006, 09:44 PM
Have more confidence in the Sox. They owned the Tigers by winning 5 of 6 before this series even started. I'll be disappointed if we don't sweep them.

Same here. The Sox gave away the one game the Tigers won against us, I just hope they don't do it again.

83 ALROY
07-18-2006, 09:48 PM
I think the idiot waving the shirt may have forced Garland to focus harder on the task at hand. Way to go shirt waving idiot!

:D:

southwstchi4life
07-18-2006, 09:51 PM
And Detroit as Vanilla Ice once said, word to your mother

CommanderPudge72
07-18-2006, 09:56 PM
The guy waving the red shirt today has just joined the League of Dufi (plural for Dufus)...

Other founding members:

1. The guy in Tampa Bay yelling at AJ on mic all series
2. The kid that was near the dug out mic at the Cell during the Boston series cheering for Manny and clapping after every friggin ball.
3. The guy at the All-star game leaning into the picture on his cell phone during the interview.

any other members that should be named.

Lip Man 1
07-18-2006, 09:57 PM
How about the guy with the multi colored jacket?

Lip

NoShoesJoe
07-18-2006, 09:58 PM
The guy waving the red shirt today has just joined the League of Dufi (plural for Dufus)...

Other founding members:

1. The guy in Tampa Bay yelling at AJ on mic all series
2. The kid that was near the dug out mic at the Cell during the Boston series cheering for Manny and clapping after every friggin ball.
3. The guy at the All-star game leaning into the picture on his cell phone during the interview.

any other members that should be named.

4. The guy at Wrigley who did the old homerun switcheroo. Fake fans, for a fake team!

digdagdug23
07-18-2006, 09:59 PM
Phew!! Maybe now a few Sox fans can back away from the ledge. At least for the next 24 hours. :D:

Great job, Sox!! Make it two in a row tomorrow! :gulp: :bandance:

Awww, come on, I wanna give 'em a little nudge, just to watch them tweak out a little more.:wired:

At some point, you just have to have faith. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't real. This game has, is, and always in our boys, you just have to have faith in them to pull it together when it counts, and play the game they know how to play. We ALL lose focus from time to time, but the test is who can pull it together, and move forward.

As a parent, I tell my kids, "when you lose, it's over, you pull it together, learn your lesson, and do better next time. Dwelling on the past will do nothing for you if you can't see what is coming next. You learn, prepare, and then execute."

Johnny Mostil
07-18-2006, 10:03 PM
I disagree. If we win two out of three, the dark clouds will be bitching that we only gained a game on them and we're still 3.5 games out.

I know the DCs around here.

Pfffftttt. There will be a few out if the Sox sweep (haven't gained in the loss column since the break, haven't cut 1.5 game lead Tigers had in mid-June, blah blah blah:rolleyes: ).

CommanderPudge72
07-18-2006, 10:04 PM
Yes. how could I forget the Rip Taylor Coat of Many Colors
And the old switch a roo on the Crede homerun ball at the Flubs...

Most definitely charter members for the League of Dufi

:walkoff:
"When ya got it, ya got it"

BeviBall!
07-18-2006, 10:11 PM
Bring back the old title!

:bandance:
Looks like I can still edit. I'm bringing it back, baby!

EDIT: Or not. I've been censored. Weak.

HotelWhiteSox
07-18-2006, 10:20 PM
Favorite part of this for me is Garland. If you look back to the past struggles, it's mainly been starting pitching (or bullpen which is related to SP at times). Though I realize why people would've complained about recent struggles with stupid/fundamental errors have played a role in them.

Nice to have Detroit's number, similar to Cleveland last year. With the Sox struggling lately and then having this kind of game, you got to say that it demoralizes Detroit

SABRSox
07-18-2006, 10:26 PM
Looks like I can still edit. I'm bringing it back, baby!

EDIT: Or not. I've been censored. Weak.

The original title was better. Oh well.

SpartanSoxFan
07-18-2006, 10:28 PM
Kapitan Konerko and Jon Garland.....YYYYESSS!!!! :bandance: :bandance: :bandance:

BeviBall!
07-18-2006, 10:30 PM
The original title was better. Oh well.

I wish I knew why it was changed. Edited out from under me. :(:

MadetoOrta
07-18-2006, 10:35 PM
Nice win. Let's get 'em tomorrow. Let's win series-after-series. Baseball is a marathon. We're at the beginning of the 3rd round of a golf major and we're right there. No need to panic. Par. Par. Birdie. Eagle and we're right where we need to be. Just had a bunch of :gulp: at a DuPage Dragons winner, so I need to go to sleep.

JorgeFabregas
07-18-2006, 10:52 PM
Did some math--not sure if it's right and sorry if this has already been posted.

Anyway, Garland's ERA as a starter going back to his June 13 win at Texas is 2.79. Clearly the best Sox starter during that stretch.

soxfanreggie
07-18-2006, 10:57 PM
Maybe I will have to listen to the radio every time Garland starts. He seems to pitch better when I do that.

Huge win though. Sweeping would be amazing, but we need to win the series. We can take care of that tomorrow night where hopefully our pitching continues with Vaz's 10th win. If he is considered our 5th starter, 9 wins is pretty darn good no matter what ERA.

batmanZoSo
07-18-2006, 10:58 PM
Thanks... but it's been modified :(:

What happened to "Red Shirts At Night, Sox Fans Delight?" I was proud of that. Answers... I demand answers!

I was thinking that was one of the best PG titles I've seen, nice work. But the current one is almost necessary at this particular point. I guess you picked a bad time to break out the magic.

ode to veeck
07-18-2006, 11:02 PM
I disagree. If we win two out of three, the dark clouds will be bitching that we only gained a game on them and we're still 3.5 games out.

I know the DCs around here.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:3QypoeyIxmldTM:http://www.501italica.com/images/501st%2520Wallpapers/Darth%2520Vader%2520Desktop%252002%25201024.jpg (http://www.501italica.com/images/501st%20Wallpapers/Darth%20Vader%20Desktop%2002%201024.jpg)

"Never underestimate the power of the Dark Side!"

ode to veeck
07-18-2006, 11:05 PM
One down, two to go. Let's pound those kittens again tomorrow!

markopat
07-18-2006, 11:05 PM
I liked the intensity...they looked all business tonight!

Let's get another tomorrow...one game at a time!

Go Go SOX!

CaptainBallz
07-18-2006, 11:19 PM
The guy waving the red shirt today has just joined the League of Dufi (plural for Dufus)...

Other founding members:

1. The guy in Tampa Bay yelling at AJ on mic all series
2. The kid that was near the dug out mic at the Cell during the Boston series cheering for Manny and clapping after every friggin ball.
3. The guy at the All-star game leaning into the picture on his cell phone during the interview.

any other members that should be named.

There were som bro-hams at a day game earlier in the year behind the Sox dugout that were seriously aiming to please with their over-the-top O.C. style and their incredibly hatable faces. I forget which game it was, but put them down as The Three Dufiteers. They were on camera for every right-handed batter...there were no fans in the chat room.:angry:

Anyways, a necessary all-around effort today. Let's keep it rollin'.:bandance:

Jjav829
07-18-2006, 11:27 PM
You gotta hand it to Garland. While our other four starters have been sucking it up the past month or so, Garland has quietly posted a sub-4 ERA since June. Great game tonight all around.

Now let's hope Vazquez can finally have another good outing.

SouthSide_HitMen
07-18-2006, 11:29 PM
This one is for your Garland on your fifth straight win!!!

http://solosong.net/judy.html

:supernana:

Time to win one Vazquez!!!

Must give credit also to Da Reverand for calling out the flock tonight!

DrCrawdad
07-18-2006, 11:30 PM
Sit down darkclouds

I started the "Guess The Number Of HR Garland Will Giveup..." (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=73106&highlight=garland) thread and since then Jon has had only one poor outing. I'M VERY, VERY GLAD GARLAND HAS DONE SO WELL.

DaleJRFan
07-18-2006, 11:38 PM
I started the "Guess The Number Of HR Garland Will Giveup..." (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=73106&highlight=garland) thread and since then Jon has had only one poor outing. I'M VERY, VERY GLAD GARLAND HAS DONE SO WELL.

Is this post a question?? If so, I guess ZERO. :D:

rowand33
07-18-2006, 11:58 PM
You gotta hand it to Garland. While our other four starters have been sucking it up the past month or so, Garland has quietly posted a sub-4 ERA since June. Great game tonight all around.

Now let's hope Vazquez can finally have another good outing.

agreed. I think we'll win Jose's start on Thursday. hopefully Vazquez can give us a quality start tomorrow and we can sweep.

Nellie_Fox
07-19-2006, 12:42 AM
How about Jim Thome beating the shift, poking the ball into left that set up Paulie's 3 run blast?

If Thome can poke outside pitches into left like that for the rest of the season, watch out.The opposition only hopes they can get Thome to start trying to poke the ball to left instead of drive it to right.

Liriano has thrown 80 pitches through 7 innings. Only 2 hits given up. Not to look past the Tigers since they are in first place, but the Twins have been playing great ball lately.It's easy to look good when Liriano is pitching against Tampa Bay. I think any chance they had to climb back into contention went away when Torii, Shannon, and Lew Ford went on the DL.

hawkjt
07-19-2006, 01:56 AM
Now thatsa nice. A solid well played clean victory. We need more like that to sooth the natives.

Jon pitched his butt off again. Love the first pitch strikes. Javy-paying attention?

Paulie has had a little homer drought of late and I was wondering when he would start really driving the ball again and poof! Big time, clutch hits, PK.

I think the tiger fans will be calling Joe -Satan - again after tonite. He and paulie have some great numbers against the tigers.

It is a big win,but we need more. Go get'em Javy. I think he will go with mack against bonderman and bring back BA against Rogers. I think BA matches up decently against a hard thrower like bonderman but so does mack. That center is sooo big tho.....

As for the twins- I am not ashamed to say I am ok with the sox missing Liriano next week in the cell. We always face Santana anyway but who needs both. Sox will get Radke,Santana and Silva with Jose matching up against Santana on tues which I will be attending. I like our chances against radke ok and silva a bunch.

TheOldRoman
07-19-2006, 02:12 AM
The guy waving the red shirt today has just joined the League of Dufi (plural for Dufus)...

Other founding members:

1. The guy in Tampa Bay yelling at AJ on mic all series
2. The kid that was near the dug out mic at the Cell during the Boston series cheering for Manny and clapping after every friggin ball.
3. The guy at the All-star game leaning into the picture on his cell phone during the interview.

any other members that should be named.
Don't forget this (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49144) guy.

Chips
07-19-2006, 03:31 AM
:winner

**** OFF DARK CLOUDS

VenturaFan23
07-19-2006, 05:58 AM
:jon
"I love you, red-shirt-waving guy!"

Thome25
07-19-2006, 06:09 AM
What's with the title of this thread? I'm not a dark cloud by any stretch of the imagination but, I think every one of us may be a dark cloud to a certain extent.

Being realistic and a little pessimistic is what separates us from Flubs fans who are eternally optimistic.

It's also one of the reasons I'm proud to be among White Sox fans. Not everything is "peaches and cream" around here. If our team isn't doing well at any particular moment, we're the first ones to tell you.

I don't think we should change and start becoming eternally optimistic all the time. Being honest and realistic and somewhat pessimistic is what makes us who we are: WHITE SOX FANS.

GO WHITE SOX!!!!! GREAT WIN LAST NIGHT!!!

0o0o0
07-19-2006, 07:54 AM
What's with the title of this thread? I'm not a dark cloud by any stretch of the imagination but, I think every one of us may be a dark cloud to a certain extent.

Being realistic and a little pessimistic is what separates us from Flubs fans who are eternally optimistic.

It's also one of the reasons I'm proud to be among White Sox fans. Not everything is "peaches and cream" around here. If our team isn't doing well at any particular moment, we're the first ones to tell you.

I don't think we should change and start becoming eternally optimistic all the time. Being honest and realistic and somewhat pessimistic is what makes us who we are: WHITE SOX FANS.

GO WHITE SOX!!!!! GREAT WIN LAST NIGHT!!!

Exactly.

What's with the dark cloud obsession? Despite what they say, I think some people want them around so they have someone to bitch about it. If the Sox lose, it's dark cloud this dark cloud that. And if they win, it's the same thing.

You're not a better fan because you "knew" the team would win.

Give it a ****ing rest.

itsnotrequired
07-19-2006, 08:04 AM
I wonder if this had anything to do with Pods performance last night. From Scott Reifert's blog:


Danger Zone

Both Scott Podsednik and Tadahito Iguchi were roughed up even before BP started tonight. Gooch took a ricochet in the batting cage off his lip, and Pods stepped onto the field only to take a Juan Uribe throw off the back of his head. Both appeared to be fine and took regular batting practice.

:?:

jenn2080
07-19-2006, 08:06 AM
I Dont think this thread is a dark cloud at all. no one said jon pitched like ****. everyone said the whole team did good and jon did awesome.

Baby Fisk
07-19-2006, 08:15 AM
http://www.cardboardcutout.net/sites/1/images/prod22/secondary/small/000507.jpg
"Well now, we certainly gave Mr. Robertson something to... CHEW ON! HAHA! HAHAHAHAHA!"

http://people.clarkson.edu/~cupband/darb04.JPG
"Yeah no kiddin'. Detroit freakin' sucks!"


Nice job by Ol' Giraffe Legs, Mr. Garland. It seems every time the Sox need a pitcher to step up and bring it, someone in the rotation does.

Sxy Mofo
07-19-2006, 08:58 AM
Garland to the bullpen! Bring in McCarthy!

WS in 05
07-19-2006, 09:12 AM
missed the game last night.....just say the clips on SC...did that moron wave that red blanket(or whatever it was) for every one of gars pitches? if so what a moron

Baby Fisk
07-19-2006, 09:22 AM
missed the game last night.....just say the clips on SC...did that moron wave that red blanket(or whatever it was) for every one of gars pitches? if so what a moron
It was echoes of that lady who used to sit behind home plate at Shea Stadium and roll her fists before every pitch, but red shirt guy had no ****ing style. He waved his rag willy-nilly, like he didn't even care. It showed very poor fansmanship. He really let the Tigers down. If I were a relative, I'd be embarrassed today.

SoxFan78
07-19-2006, 09:31 AM
It was echoes of that lady who used to sit behind home plate at Shea Stadium and roll her fists before every pitch, but red shirt guy had no ****ing style. He waved his rag willy-nilly, like he didn't even care. It showed very poor fansmanship. He really let the Tigers down. If I were a relative, I'd be embarrassed today.

The surprising thing about this was he was waving it right in front of a security guard. And the guard did nothing about it!!

Johnny Mostil
07-19-2006, 09:36 AM
Exactly.

What's with the dark cloud obsession? Despite what they say, I think some people want them around so they have someone to bitch about it. If the Sox lose, it's dark cloud this dark cloud that. And if they win, it's the same thing.

You're not a better fan because you "knew" the team would win.

Give it a ****ing rest.

Meh, it's more amusing than anything else. I won't speak for others (Torn? West?), but what amuses me most is the fretting over things that the Sox (much less their fans) can do nothing about, e.g., worrying, in July, about what the Royals are doing against the Red Sox, what the Mariners are doing against the Yankees, what the Devil Rays are doing against the Twins, the "ESPN effect," etc.

Yeah, I might pay attention to such things (well, not the ESPN effect) in September if the race is as it is now, but it isn't September. Even then, perspectives can be wacky. I remember the fretting last year that the Sox were "choking," with little recognition that the only way the Indians were going to win the division was to pull off one of the greatest (I don't exaggerate) stretch drives in the history of the game (a feat which would have deserved respect had they actually pulled it off).

Maybe I don't obsess enough about some things to be a "good" Sox fan . . .

Lip Man 1
07-19-2006, 10:00 AM
Johnny:

We (average people) can't do anything about the weather, world politics or a number of other things yet we 'worry' about them as well.

The word 'fan' is short for 'fanatics' for a reason.

Some folks have a different perspective on things. With me the Sox are the 3rd highest priority I have behind my wife and son.

Some find that stupid, others don't care one way or the other. My attitude is 'live and let live.'

How someone views the Sox in relation to how I view them doesn't bother me one way or another. Doesn't make them 'good' fans or 'bad' fans.

Lip

Johnny Mostil
07-19-2006, 10:16 AM
Johnny:

We (average people) can't do anything about the weather, world politics or a number of other things yet we 'worry' about them as well.

The word 'fan' is short for 'fanatics' for a reason.

Some folks have a different perspective on things. With me the Sox are the 3rd highest priority I have behind my wife and son.

Some find that stupid, others don't care one way or the other. My attitude is 'live and let live.'

How someone views the Sox in relation to how I view them doesn't bother me one way or another. Doesn't make them 'good' fans or 'bad' fans.

Lip

Some fair points. For now, I'll be more than content if the Sox somehow manage to play .630 ball until September (and I'm sure I'd have had some doubts about that if I had watched more this past weekend).

If they do, then maybe I'll worry about the rest. Or maybe not--.630 the rest of the way, as I'm sure you know, would almost certainly guarantee a wild card (the only other wild card to play that well was Oakland in '01). If it doesn't, well, to paraphrase a famous Sox fan, I'll be content to say they didn't make it because they didn't get enough wins:wink:.

Lip Man 1
07-19-2006, 10:20 AM
Johnny:

If they play .630 baseball and don't get to the post season that's still a hell of a year.

Would I be disappointed? Hell yes.... especially if losing games to garbage teams is what was the deciding factor. But I remember years when I'd kill for 94-95 wins regardless of whether that was good enough for post season play or not.

Lip

Johnny Mostil
07-19-2006, 10:25 AM
Johnny:

If they play .630 baseball and don't get to the post season that's still a hell of a year.

Would I be disappointed? Hell yes.... especially if losing games to garbage teams is what was the deciding factor. But I remember years when I'd kill for 94-95 wins regardless of whether that was good enough for post season play or not.

Lip

Damn straight--102 wins would be most in Sox history (something else I'm sure you know). I tell my wife and kids this is the Golden Era of White Sox baseball--a great time, to be sure, but I do wish something even more impressive deserved that title . . .

Some years you would have killed for 94 or 95? Many years I might have killed for 90 . . .

MarySwiss
07-19-2006, 10:28 AM
yes the whole ****ing game!!!!!!!!:angry: :angry: :angry:

Yeah, but just think about how sore his muscles are today. :D:

Lip Man 1
07-19-2006, 10:31 AM
Johnny:

You're right about the 90 wins...that would have looked nice in the late 60's, late 70's, late 80's, late 90's...(what is it about the later parts of decades with the Sox?)

Regarding the 'golden age' comment. I guess that's how you look at things.

Some feel the 'World Series' winner is the trump card but I can't agree with that, not when I remember the Sox teams from the mid 60's, who averaged 96 wins. That was part of an amazing stretch where the Sox had 17 straight winning seasons. To me that type of consistency derserves that tag 'golden age...'

Now today I don't think it's possible to win 17 years in a row (although the Braves are close...) so if the Sox can string together another three or four years of winning seasons to go along with the three they have now, plus that series title, I may agree with you.

Lip

Johnny Mostil
07-19-2006, 10:36 AM
Johnny:

You're right about the 90 wins...that would have looked nice in the late 60's, late 70's, late 80's, late 90's...(what is it about the later parts of decades with the Sox?)

Regarding the 'golden age' comment. I guess that's how you look at things.

Some feel the 'World Series' winner is the trump card but I can't agree with that, not when I remember the Sox teams from the mid 60's, who averaged 96 wins. That was part of an amazing stretch where the Sox had 17 straight winning seasons. To me that type of consistency derserves that tag 'golden age...'

Now today I don't think it's possible to win 17 years in a row (although the Braves are close...) so if the Sox can string together another three or four years of winning seasons to go along with the three they have now, plus that series title, I may agree with you.

Lip

Fair point about the '50s and '60s. That was before my time, but I can see a very good argument for it. I might agree with you that a Series title isn't necessary to mark the "golden age" of Sox baseball, but that alone is a sad comment, isn't it?:whiner:

Sheesh, we keep going down this path and I'll be converted to the Church of the Dark Cloud . . .

Fenway
07-19-2006, 11:23 AM
the Detroit fishwraps for Wednesday

Free Press

PENNANT FEVER! (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006607190446)
Sticky weather, buzzing crowd and serious baseball now this is summer (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006607190446)
MITCH ALBOM: The national pastime cranked up for real in Detroit with this game, foot to the pedal, hands locked on the wheel.
ROCHELLE RILEY: (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006607190331) A chat with Ernie Harwell
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News


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White washed: Konerko's 2 homers and Garland's arm tame Tigers (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060719/SPORTS0104/607190423)
Guest columnist Mike Downey: Leyland is a gem, just like the Sox (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060719/SPORTS0104/607190421)
Tigers-White Sox gallery (http://javascript<b></b>:getsportsgallery('tigerswhitesox071806'))

Tigers blog: Leyland on Abreu (http://info.detnews.com/tigersblog/index.cfm)

Whose pitching staff would you rather have this season? (http://info.detnews.com/tigers/lettersindex.cfm?topic=Arms_race&forum=tigertalk)

jongarlandlover
07-19-2006, 11:55 AM
Anyway, Garland's ERA as a starter going back to his June 13 win at Texas is 2.79. Clearly the best Sox starter during that stretch.

clearly. the pitching staff has been so bad recently...jon's definitely been both the best and most consistent starter during the past month or so.


Javy - paying attention?

all we can do is hope.