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MISoxfan
07-17-2006, 08:36 PM
With another match between Clemens and Maddux will we all get to hear once again how there will never be any more 300 win pitchers?

I think it's pretty good bet that both Glavine and Johnson will get there. After that will there be more?

Mussina's 5 years younger than Randy Johnson and if he gets 12 wins for the next 5 seasons he'll be at 295.

After that there is a drop off, but still people can do it. There was just a drought in good durable pitchers for awhile. Pettitte is on on pace for 300 wins, but since he's still young compared to your Clemens and Johnsons it seems far fetched. He needs 12 wins over the next 10 seasons to do it (very possible).

Bartolo Colon? Maybe? 10 seasons with 12 wins will put him at 260. He's only 33, pitching to 43 is not impossible

Tim Hudson has 101 wins in 7 full seasons, 303 wins in 21 full seasons? Why not.

Freddy Garcia has 109 wins in 8 full seasons 327 in 24 seasons? Doubt it, but it could happen. So could 300 in 21 seasons.

Mulder has 103 in 7 seasons.

Buehrle has 94 in 6. That's 282 in 18 seasons, in a game where 20+ seasons is a real possibility. Sure he could do it.

Barry Zito, 95 in 6 seasons.

Roy Oswalt 89 in 5 full seasons.

Do I think they'll all make it? No chance whatsoever, but do I think 1 or 2 will make it? Yes.

Buehrle is 26, Oswalt and Zito are 27. The younger players today will enjoy longer careers than their older counterparts. They should at least have 13 more seasons a piece, probably more. Mediocre win totals will give them all over 250 wins by time they are 40. They can do it.

Chips
07-17-2006, 08:46 PM
I easily think Buehrle can do it. Same with Zito and Oswalt. Mussina has an excellent chance if he stays healthy and plays for good teams.

chisoxmike
07-17-2006, 08:49 PM
I easily think Buehrle can do it...

BUT BUEHRLE SUCKS!!!!!!!! TRADE HIM TO THE CARDINALS WHERE HE WANTS TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gbergman
07-17-2006, 08:58 PM
i think a couple will reach it, but it will be about a decade or so after glavine and johnson get their

buehrle4cy05
07-17-2006, 10:55 PM
Glavine will reach it. Johnson and Mussina won't. As for the younger guys (Oswalt, Zito, Buehrle), it all depends on how good of a bullpen/offense is behind them. If Zito ends up going to the Mets, who look to have a good offense anchored by Reyes, Wright, and Beltran for years to come, he has a good chance. Oswalt doesn't have a good bullpen or offense behind him now, but if he goes elsewhere to a better team, he has a chance. Buehrle has a good chance because he's young and durable.

300 wins is a tough accomplishment. Look at how well Pedro Martinez has pitched over the course of his career. He only has 204 wins.

soxfanreggie
07-17-2006, 11:05 PM
It helps to average 15-16 wins a year peppered with some 20 win seasons in there.

Nellie_Fox
07-18-2006, 12:37 AM
It's tougher with the five-man rotation, but it will always happen. Just not as often. Every time somebody reaches 300, the "experts" predict he'll be the last.

MISoxfan
07-18-2006, 09:27 PM
Glavine will reach it. Johnson and Mussina won't. As for the younger guys (Oswalt, Zito, Buehrle), it all depends on how good of a bullpen/offense is behind them. If Zito ends up going to the Mets, who look to have a good offense anchored by Reyes, Wright, and Beltran for years to come, he has a good chance. Oswalt doesn't have a good bullpen or offense behind him now, but if he goes elsewhere to a better team, he has a chance. Buehrle has a good chance because he's young and durable.

300 wins is a tough accomplishment. Look at how well Pedro Martinez has pitched over the course of his career. He only has 204 wins.

Johnson won't?? You realize he has 273 right now. He should have 280 by the end of this season, you don't think he's got 2 more seasons?

ClaudelSleptHere
07-19-2006, 03:40 AM
Buehrle will easily make it?

soxfanatlanta
07-19-2006, 07:08 AM
Tim Hudson has 101 wins in 7 full seasons, 303 wins in 21 full seasons? Why not.

Hudson is not very durable, and has been mediocre the past two years - not gonna happen.

MVP
07-19-2006, 01:03 PM
I think Buehrle has a chance. He reminds me a lot of Greg Maddux when Maddux was younger. The differences of course being that Maddux got to the majors at a younger age than Buerhle and is right-handed.

Tekijawa
07-19-2006, 01:24 PM
At his current pace, Hall of Famer, Kerry Wood will break the 300 win mark after 33.8 years in the Majors (71 wins in 8 major league seasons/8.875 wins per season). He will be 54.8 Years old when he does it and the City of Chicago will rejoice when it happens!

The Savior Mark Prior has 41 wins in 5 seasons, that's 8.2 wins a season, at that pace he will hit 300 in his 36.6th Major league season and will be a mere 57.6 years old!

Iwritecode
07-19-2006, 01:43 PM
At his current pace, Hall of Famer, Kerry Wood will break the 300 win mark after 33.8 years in the Majors (71 wins in 8 major league seasons/8.875 wins per season). He will be 54.8 Years old when he does it and the City of Chicago will rejoice when it happens!

The Savior Mark Prior has 41 wins in 5 seasons, that's 8.2 wins a season, at that pace he will hit 300 in his 36.6th Major league season and will be a mere 57.6 years old!

If Zambrano was on a better team he might have a chance. He's only 25 and he's averaged just over 14 wins the past 3 years. If he can keep that average # of wins and pitch another 16 or 17 years he'll make.

cbrownson13
07-19-2006, 02:00 PM
Liriano will have a chance. He may get to 20 wins in his rookie year. Although, I have some doubts on whether his arm will hold up long enough.

the gooch
07-19-2006, 02:59 PM
I think Buehrle has a chance. He reminds me a lot of Greg Maddux when Maddux was younger. The differences of course being that Maddux got to the majors at a younger age than Buerhle and is right-handed.They were both 20 yrs old. the difference is about 5 months in age. Add to that lefties tend to last longer in this league, i'd say that is negligible.