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CosmRoksTHHP
07-15-2006, 06:07 PM
Thanks for '05 Cliff.
just heard the news on the Score.

Sox-o-matic
07-15-2006, 06:08 PM
Is Tracey coming up then? Montero?

MrRoboto83
07-15-2006, 06:08 PM
Per post game show AM670

SoxSpeed22
07-15-2006, 06:09 PM
Now what?

JUribe1989
07-15-2006, 06:10 PM
Cliff was unbelievable in 2005 much like Shingo was unbelievable in 2004. Both of these moves had to be done though, and the team was better off with both of the moves.

Jjav829
07-15-2006, 06:11 PM
It had to happen. Thanks for the great '05, Cliff. :gulp:


I guess we'll find out soon if someone is coming up or if perhaps Kenny was able to make a move for a reliever.

Brian26
07-15-2006, 06:11 PM
He gone.

Nice guy, but had to happen. Thanks for the memories in '05, Cliff.

102605
07-15-2006, 06:11 PM
I wont jump to say bad things about Cliff.

It is unfortunate the way things ended. He was a part of the 2005 team and he certainly shared an important role.

Hope he finds it again buried somewhere in the NL.

JUribe1989
07-15-2006, 06:12 PM
I'm just praying for one the Mets relievers to be told in the dugout that they have just been traded.

MrRoboto83
07-15-2006, 06:14 PM
I'm just praying for one the Mets relievers to be told in the dugout that they have just been traded.

Maybe the Mets will take a chance on Cliff.:D:

BainesHOF
07-15-2006, 06:14 PM
I wish Politte all the best. He'll always be remembered as a key member of the 2005 World Series championship team.

robiwho
07-15-2006, 06:17 PM
Best of luck to Cliff. :gulp:

veeter
07-15-2006, 06:19 PM
Cliff had to be dumped, but the Sox problem is starting pitching, not so much the pen IMO. MB is going through his dead arm period now, instead of in Aug. like last year. He'll get through it and have a great AUG/Sept., I think.

CaptainBallz
07-15-2006, 06:19 PM
I feel for the guy, but hey, it's time.

Thanks for '05 Cliff. Hopefully a change of scenery gets you back in form.

Mohoney
07-15-2006, 06:19 PM
Take Gload with you, Cliff.

bridgeportcopper
07-15-2006, 06:20 PM
Seemed like a good man, played a huge role in WS'05 championship.......now don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

JorgeFabregas
07-15-2006, 06:26 PM
Today seemed like his swan song. It's appropriate timing. Good luck and thanks, Cliff.

SouthSide_HitMen
07-15-2006, 06:28 PM
Maybe the Mets will take a chance on Cliff.:D:

:angry: :angry: :angry:

Thanks for 2005. I hope for your sake you can figure things out. Time for a replacement on the South Side. :supernana:

Timmy D's
07-15-2006, 06:28 PM
I will always remember Cliff for his Buffalo theory.

Well you see, Norm, itís like this...A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first.This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Now, as we know, excessive intake of alcohol kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. And that, Norm, is
why you always feel smarter after a few beers.


Bonvoyage~ Cliffy:gulp: :gulp:

The Racehorse
07-15-2006, 06:29 PM
Cliff was unbelievable in 2005 much like Shingo was unbelievable in 2004. Both of these moves had to be done though, and the team was better off with both of the moves.

Ditto, ditto, ditto & ditto... Cliff, my man, thanks for '05 and Good Luck to you!

getonbckthr
07-15-2006, 06:30 PM
Thank you Cliff for 05, but business is business not always pleasure. This business is to win championships.

Sox-o-matic
07-15-2006, 06:31 PM
I will always remember Cliff for his Buffalo theory.

Well you see, Norm, itís like this...A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first.This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Now, as we know, excessive intake of alcohol kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. And that, Norm, is
why you always feel smarter after a few beers.


Bonvoyage~ Cliffy:gulp: :gulp:

That has to be the funniest thing I've ever read.

FloridaSox
07-15-2006, 06:32 PM
Thank you. Good luck. Good bye.

Dan Mega
07-15-2006, 06:45 PM
Damn it! Cliff couldn't turn it around. See you later and we hope you flourish elsewhere.

QCIASOXFAN
07-15-2006, 06:50 PM
Cliff was unbelievable in 2005 much like Shingo was unbelievable in 2004. Both of these moves had to be done though, and the team was better off with both of the moves. Its always sad when these things happen to players who just came off an amazing season. I hope Cliff can go to his happy place again someday.

whitesoxfan
07-15-2006, 06:50 PM
Well, in the gamethread I said hopefully this was Cliff's last call. It appears that is the case. Thanks Cliff for the great year you gave us last year. It was nice to have a reliable right-handed setup man in the pen last year. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, it didn't work this year. Good luck in your future endeavors.

TDog
07-15-2006, 06:52 PM
You don't designate someone for assignment unless you bring someone in to take his place, and I missed that part.

santo=dorf
07-15-2006, 06:57 PM
http://www.reformation.org/billy-graham.jpg

"PRAISE THE LORD!!!"


You don't designate someone for assignment unless you bring someone in to take his place, and I missed that part.
Tracey is on the way.

rowand33
07-15-2006, 07:19 PM
rotoworld says that Tracey will be called up to replace him.

White Sox designated RHP Cliff Politte for assignment.
Sean Tracey will be called up to replace him. Politte gave up four runs today and had allowed 12 runs in 9 1/3 innings since coming off the disabled list last month. With his velocity still down, he's incapable of helping a major league team right now. Still, there will likely be some interest in him. Jul. 15 - 7:10 pm et

I guess the real question is what bad bullpen will cliff end up in? The Reds, Royals, or Devil Rays?

Thank god we finally did this...

thanks for 05 Cliff.

qpropaganda
07-15-2006, 07:21 PM
Thanks for '05 Cliff.
just heard the news on the Score.

yo COZM!!! welcome to the board...long time no see...

as for cliff, it's a sad thing but it had to be done...wish him the best of luck...

buehrle4cy05
07-15-2006, 07:43 PM
Cliff has himself a ring and should feel proud that he was a key component in the 2005 World Series team. He couldn't get it done this year, and it was a move that had to be made.

Thanks for the memories, Cliff.

viagracat
07-15-2006, 07:50 PM
You knew it was coming; he just had no presence on the bump anymore.

Hope it works out for him somehow. Thanks for '05, buddy. :thumbsup:

The Dude
07-15-2006, 07:51 PM
:supernana::supernana::supernana:

This is the best news I've heard in a while! It's about time!

:hawk
HE GONE! He'll grab some bench!


Cliff thanks for 05 but good riddance!

HawkDJ
07-15-2006, 07:59 PM
So long, and thanks for all the fish

Lip Man 1
07-15-2006, 08:09 PM
The Sox had no choice since Cliff had completely lost it.

Baseball is a business and the name of the business is winning. Sentiment and loyalty are fine things and have a place in the game but not at the expense of winning.

Cliff was coming into games where the Sox still had a chance to come back but by the time he left they had practically zero chance.

This also sends a message to everyone on the squad...from Paulie to A.J. from Widger to Iguchi.....we're here to win. What you did in the past is appreciated but has nothing to do with the here and now.

Keep dropping balls in left field, keep forgetting to cover first base, keep screwing up a bunt and you to may find yourself in Tampa or Pittsburgh or even worse on the North Side.

The championship in '05 has dramatically raised the stakes and expectations... mediocrity, drifting focus and mental mistakes will no longer be tolerated.

Lip

MikeW
07-15-2006, 08:50 PM
Iwas at the game today and it was indeed a sad sight. After Crosby's homerun Cliff just put his hands on his knees and looked down. That's when I knew his time had come. Thanks for helping all our dreams come true in 2005.

nug0hs
07-15-2006, 09:03 PM
Yes, Tracey will be brought up ASAP: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060715&content_id=1557978&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

Anyone think we should be bringing a middle reliever like Montero instead of another starter?

Scottiehaswheels
07-15-2006, 10:23 PM
Just outta curiousity... Don't know exactly how DFA works but should someone pick Cliff up, do we receive a draft pick for him?

markopat
07-15-2006, 10:42 PM
So let's hope that this is the start of the turnaround for the 2nd half!

GoGo SOX!

ohiosoxfan12
07-15-2006, 10:43 PM
Maybe the Mets will take a chance on Cliff.:D:

I really hope the tigers take a chance with him!

Tracey looked good while he was up in the big leagues. Last time I checked, he was doing good in AAA.

Grzegorz
07-15-2006, 10:53 PM
The Sox had no choice since Cliff had completely lost it.

Baseball is a business and the name of the business is winning. Sentiment and loyalty are fine things and have a place in the game but not at the expense of winning.

The championship in '05 has dramatically raised the stakes and expectations... mediocrity, drifting focus and mental mistakes will no longer be tolerated.

Lip

Exactly, baseball is like any other business; past performance is no guarantee of future results.

That's why it is intellectually dishonest to make the argument that the tribulations of the starting staff will soon pass because they're too good to keep underperforming.

starboy0
07-15-2006, 11:08 PM
Cliff was a big part of 2005 and he was the winning pitcher in the last game I was at; the 19 inning affair with Boston.

Good luck, Cliff!

mwc44
07-15-2006, 11:10 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4a/Nbc_apprentice2_donald_trump.jpeg/200px-Nbc_apprentice2_donald_trump.jpeg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nbc_apprentice2_donald_trump.jpeg)"Cliff, Kenny asked me to talk to you today... you know, we've given you every opportunity to step up and show you're a leader. You've been our go-to guy in the past and we wanted to count on you this year so we can repeat, but you've continually let us down. 4 runs on 4 hits in 2 innings today? That's just not World Championship material. We really appreciate what you did for us last year, but that was 2005 and this is 2006. Cliff, please understand that this is not personal, it's business. You're a great guy, but NOT the kind that will keep this organization afloat until the end of October...
and Cliff... YOU'RE FIRED!"

Thank you for what you did for us, Cliff...Good Luck in your future... NOW GO!!!

(Trump to KW and Caroline: "It was an easy decision, it had to be done!")

StillMissOzzie
07-15-2006, 11:39 PM
Thanks for all your efforts to bring Chicago the ring last year, but I agree, this HAD to be done, no point in waiting until 7/31. Good luck wherever you land, Cliff.

SMO
:gulp:

slobes
07-16-2006, 12:18 AM
Glad to see that what was best for the team was finally done.

eurotrash35
07-16-2006, 12:28 AM
smell ya later, gascan

PAPChiSox729
07-16-2006, 01:29 AM
Cliff, I really was pulling for you all the way to the end. It was a great '05, but it wasn't there this year. I hope you get it back someday, even if it is elsewhere.

thomas35forever
07-16-2006, 01:42 AM
Thanks for the memories, Cliff. It's been a great 2 1/2 years with you. Good luck to you in the future. You'll always be remembered as the right-handed setup man for the 2005 World Champion Chicago White Sox!

soxfanreggie
07-16-2006, 02:01 AM
Best of luck wherever you go Cliff. Too bad things didn't work out this season and you can't get stuff worked on in AAA. Some team will go for you I'm sure.

TDog
07-16-2006, 02:30 AM
Just outta curiousity... Don't know exactly how DFA works but should someone pick Cliff up, do we receive a draft pick for him?

I'm surprised this question wasn't answered already. As it is, someone will probably correct my details, but this is how I understand it. The Sox have a little time (I think it's 10 days) to either trade Politte or release him. Should the Sox release him, teams (beginning with KC and Pittsburgh) would get a shot at signing him at a minimum salary with the White Sox picking up the balance of the remaining financial terms of his contract.

The reason a team designates someone for assignment is because they don't want to wait to trade someone before moving him off your roster. Most commonly this happens when a player comes off the disable list and room on the roster is urgent. It doesn't diminish a player's value as much as you might think, because if Philadelphia or St. Louis wanted to pick him up, they wouldn't want to risk a lower team grabbing him first. You're not dealing with high trade value anyway. But logically, you would have to conclude that the Sox have been attempting to trade Politte without any success. I expected something more urgent than a Tracy callup to follow this move. Well, not really.

I don't see any urgency in designating Politte other than keeping him from form continuing to pitch out of the Sox bullpen.

Scottiehaswheels
07-16-2006, 02:42 AM
I'm surprised this question wasn't answered already. As it is, someone will probably correct my details, but this is how I understand it. The Sox have a little time (I think it's 10 days) to either trade Politte or release him. Should the Sox release him, teams (beginning with KC and Pittsburgh) would get a shot at signing him at a minimum salary with the White Sox picking up the balance of the remaining financial terms of his contract.

Thanks TDog,

Most of the stuff you said I knew I was just curious if via the DFA, rules go the same as free agency, like say Konerko had signed elsewhere this offseason we would have gotten 1 A type draft pick etc.... with a DFA does the team receive at least a C type draft pick or no?

I found a pretty good link explaining DFA and free agency but the draft pick is only acknowledged under free agency so I guess not.... http://groups.msn.com/BaseballForum/mlbgeneraltransactionrules.msnw

CLR01
07-16-2006, 02:49 AM
It's about time.


Good luck Cliff.

Chips
07-16-2006, 04:18 AM
Hell ****ing yeah. I could not be happier. I only wish this news came much earlier.

:supernana::party::cheers::yup::dancers::moonwalk: :drunken::gulp:

BadBobbyJenks
07-16-2006, 05:40 AM
Best of luck to Cliff. :gulp:






nothing else to say

RowanDye
07-16-2006, 11:13 AM
Today seemed like his swan song. It's appropriate timing. Good luck and thanks, Cliff.

This would imply that Cliff had one, last great effort today....I just hope we can get a swan song out of Hermie.

I loved you when you were on Cliff, felt for you when you were down.

Good luck after baseball!

Thome25
07-16-2006, 11:47 AM
Best of luck Cliff!! THANK YOU for your contributions to our first World Champinship in 88 years.

You're a great guy and you were great for us last year. Sorry to see you fall on such hard times.

Hope you hook up with another ballclub and have great success the rest of your career.:gulp:

Sox-o-matic
07-16-2006, 12:39 PM
Thanks TDog,

Most of the stuff you said I knew I was just curious if via the DFA, rules go the same as free agency, like say Konerko had signed elsewhere this offseason we would have gotten 1 A type draft pick etc.... with a DFA does the team receive at least a C type draft pick or no?

I found a pretty good link explaining DFA and free agency but the draft pick is only acknowledged under free agency so I guess not.... http://groups.msn.com/BaseballForum/mlbgeneraltransactionrules.msnw

I think the way that works is a team only receives a draft pick or two as compsenation for the loss of a player through free agency. In order to receive any picks at all a team has to at least offer salary arbitration, meaning that the team at least acts like they would have wanted that player back, which is totally different than just trying to dump him like the Sox are doing with Cliff.

SOXSINCE'70
07-16-2006, 12:45 PM
Thanks For 2005.Sorry it didn't work out.

EMel9281
07-16-2006, 07:58 PM
Cliff, it was great seeing you in '05 and helping bring a World Championship to us. Now, we bid you adeiu and good luck wherever you go and whatever you do.

Salud, Cliff!

StatHead21
07-16-2006, 10:05 PM
Middle relievers usual have a year where they pitch out of their minds, Thanks for the good work Cliff,

chitownhawkfan
07-16-2006, 10:11 PM
The only thing worse than Cliff Politte in the bullpen is putting in Tracey. Blah, they should have brought Montero.

JB98
07-16-2006, 10:23 PM
The only thing worse than Cliff Politte in the bullpen is putting in Tracey. Blah, they should have brought Montero.

I disagree. Tracey is younger than Montero, and he has better stuff. I think he's a guy who might be able to help us. We have two weeks until the trading deadline. Give Tracey an opportunity in the next week or 10 days, and see what he can do. If KW chooses to trade Vazquez or Garcia and McCarthy moves into the rotation, that long-relief position comes open. Maybe KW wants to see if Tracey can handle that role. I'm sure there are irons in the fire and things we don't know. After seeing Montero work earlier this season, I don't look at him as anymore than a stopgap measure.

Too bad Cliff had to be let go. He was possibly our best reliever last year from start to finish. I'm sure it was tough for the Sox to say goodbye to the guy, but it had to be done. He just hasn't been getting it done this year. If a pitcher can't get out Bubba Crosby or Angel Pagan, chances are he isn't going to be able to get out a Magglio Ordonez or a Torii Hunter in a critical, late-season divisional game.

1917
07-16-2006, 11:07 PM
I'm surprised this question wasn't answered already. As it is, someone will probably correct my details, but this is how I understand it. The Sox have a little time (I think it's 10 days) to either trade Politte or release him. Should the Sox release him, teams (beginning with KC and Pittsburgh) would get a shot at signing him at a minimum salary with the White Sox picking up the balance of the remaining financial terms of his contract.

The reason a team designates someone for assignment is because they don't want to wait to trade someone before moving him off your roster. Most commonly this happens when a player comes off the disable list and room on the roster is urgent. It doesn't diminish a player's value as much as you might think, because if Philadelphia or St. Louis wanted to pick him up, they wouldn't want to risk a lower team grabbing him first. You're not dealing with high trade value anyway. But logically, you would have to conclude that the Sox have been attempting to trade Politte without any success. I expected something more urgent than a Tracy callup to follow this move. Well, not really.

I don't see any urgency in designating Politte other than keeping him from form continuing to pitch out of the Sox bullpen.

If they are unable to trade him and nobody picks him up, he can also be sent to the minors, but Cliff already said he would retire before going back to AAA...I don't blame him, he should have plenty of money and a real big ring and call it a career.

rick smeitz
07-16-2006, 11:30 PM
yup, you got it, yup.

ChiSoxGirl
07-16-2006, 11:33 PM
yup, you got it, yup.

Is that all you have to say in regards to every thread you've posted in tonight, you :dtroll: ? Why do we need a "yup yup" post in the "Core of the Core at Oakland in Sept." thread?

ChiSoxGirl
07-16-2006, 11:39 PM
I really feel bad about the Politte situation. As nervous as I got whenever Ozzie would bring him in lately, I was just as hopeful that he had somehow regained his 2005 form since his last appearance on the mound. You can't help but feel bad for the genuinely nice guys that this stuff happens to. But, you have to be sure you're doing what's best for the team as a whole, not for the individual player. Afterall, isn't that what the Sox are all about? T-E-A-M.

With that said, a heartfelt thanks goes out to Cliff Politte for his stellar performance of 2005 and the help he lent in bringing a World Championship to the south side!

QCIASOXFAN
07-16-2006, 11:40 PM
Is that all you have to say in regards to every thread you've posted in tonight, you :dtroll: ? Why do we need a "yup yup" post in the "Core of the Core at Oakland in Sept." thread?:rolling:

SpartanSoxFan
07-16-2006, 11:42 PM
Is that all you have to say in regards to every thread you've posted in tonight, you :dtroll: ? Why do we need a "yup yup" post in the "Core of the Core at Oakland in Sept." thread?

Haha, take a peek http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/search.php?do=finduser&u=9169. Can we officially begin the countdown???

:hawk

***(clears throat)***

SoxFan76
07-16-2006, 11:49 PM
Take Gload with you, Cliff.

Why.

The guy can hit .300 getting 4 at bats a week. That's pretty tough to do.

RadioheadRocks
07-17-2006, 01:06 AM
Is that all you have to say in regards to every thread you've posted in tonight, you :dtroll: ? Why do we need a "yup yup" post in the "Core of the Core at Oakland in Sept." thread?


Damn YUPpies!!! :D:

DumpJerry
07-17-2006, 01:12 AM
If they are unable to trade him and nobody picks him up, he can also be sent to the minors, but Cliff already said he would retire before going back to AAA...I don't blame him, he should have plenty of money and a real big ring and call it a career.
I'm pretty sure someone will pick him up. Otherwise, he'll catch on with someone next season.

Of course, after today's Two Granny performance, the North Siders might want to take a looksie-he can't be worse than what they have.

The Dude
07-17-2006, 01:18 AM
I'm pretty sure someone will pick him up. Otherwise, he'll catch on with someone next season.

Of course, after today's Two Granny performance, the North Siders might want to take a looksie-he can't be worse than what they have.

Dump and his flubsession!:D:

But seriously, I think a few teams will give him a look

Chips
07-17-2006, 01:31 AM
Dump and his flubsession!:D:

But seriously, I think a few teams will give him a look

Damn, you beat me to it.

soxfanreggie
07-17-2006, 02:27 AM
Cliff could be part of a bigger trade. He could soften the blow to a team trading us a righty reliver, if we do decide to trade for one. If not, we could always try for draft picks/minor leaguers.

DaleJRFan
07-17-2006, 03:02 AM
Don't know if this was mentioned or not, but... might it be worth a shot to flip DFA'ed Politte to the Reds for DFA'ed Esteban Yan? Yea yea... he gave up a homer to Jon Garland... but his numbers weren't too awful in Cinci and he is a slight improvement over Cliff. Could be a low-risk/high-reward deal... He is fat, but he throws hard and has a good splitter.

Yan 2006:
Angels: 0-0, 6.85 ERA, 22 IP, 19 H, 13 BB, 16 K
Reds: 1-0, 3.60 ERA, 15 IP, 13 H, 7 BB, 8 K
Combined: 1-0, 5.14 ERA, 37 IP, 32 H, 20 BB, 24 K

Drop his stats into the Sox staff, and his ERA is right around the median set by the starters. Maybe he's worth a looksie to hold down Cliff's spot (why Tracey?) until all-mighty KW makes his usual Wednesday blockbuster on the 19th.

santo=dorf
07-17-2006, 06:55 AM
Cliff could be part of a bigger trade. He could soften the blow to a team trading us a righty reliver, if we do decide to trade for one. If not, we could always try for draft picks/minor leaguers.
:rolleyes:

Cliff is worthless and you can't trade draft picks in the MLB

soxfanreggie
07-17-2006, 08:01 AM
Well, maybe we can't trade him directly for a pick, but he has some trade value. Any player has some trade value. It might not be that great, which is why I said he could be a piece of a trade.

salty99
07-17-2006, 09:20 AM
You mean we didn't bring up Hermanson!

kevin57
07-17-2006, 04:49 PM
It's my belief that ANYONE who helped bring us the trophy in 2005 deserves his props.

So,

THANKS CLIFF!

That said, he was not going to help us in 2006. Politte had lost faith in himself. End of career...at least here.

FielderJones
07-17-2006, 05:37 PM
Cliffie Launched (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7577/1975/1600/launched.jpg)
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7577/1975/400/launched.jpg)