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Law11
07-03-2006, 02:31 PM
So I was in St. Louis this weekend visiting friends.
Caught all 3 sox games down there. The score comes in in St. Louis...
Just an FYI.. ANd the bar I was in was going as nuts as me on Sat with A.J.'s HR.
Anyway while at a bar yesterday watching the Sox game on mute with the cards/royal game going they (Card announcers) were talking about the sox and the Hot trade rumor of Tejada to the Sox for Uribe... I was like.. Huh?? Where did this come from?

Anyone hear anything like this?

By the way that city is going nuts with how bad the Cards have been and
were talking about the sox destroying them as the start of this nightmare.

Very cool new park.. But my GOD it was hot.. 95 at gametime humidity
a million percent...

Did see a few Sox fans down there in their gear..
Couldnt do it. I wasnt wearing anything Black in that sun...

Just had my sox cap on.

Lip Man 1
07-03-2006, 04:34 PM
The name has been mentioned in today's newspapers along with Andruw Jones (which Kenny strongly denied...)

Lip

batmanZoSo
07-03-2006, 04:39 PM
I wouldn't complain, but that's totally not what we need. More offense and less defense with worse pitching than last year (performance-wise)? I don't like that recipe. I'd be much more interested in upgrading one of the starters that aren't cutting it if we're throwing big names around.

soxwon
07-03-2006, 11:39 PM
The name has been mentioned in today's newspapers along with Andruw Jones (which Kenny strongly denied...)

Lip

at tonights sox game, i was telling my brother in law
watch in a month tejada will be a sox.

fquaye149
07-03-2006, 11:52 PM
I wouldn't complain, but that's totally not what we need. More offense and less defense with worse pitching than last year (performance-wise)? I don't like that recipe. I'd be much more interested in upgrading one of the starters that aren't cutting it if we're throwing big names around.

Well...the thing is, if we somehow made a trade for Tejada for Uribe and prospects, rather than pitchers on our roster, we'd have, without much debate, a much better lineup than the 2004 Red Sox, and pitching that is pretty comparable.

Things worked out for them all right.

I hate when people do these things, but can you imagine the lineup?

Pods
Iguchi
Thome
Konerko
Dye
Tejada
AJ
Crede
Anderson

That lineup is so insane, that I really doubt this trade will happen.

Grzegorz
07-04-2006, 06:31 AM
I wouldn't complain, but that's totally not what we need. More offense and less defense with worse pitching than last year (performance-wise)? I don't like that recipe. I'd be much more interested in upgrading one of the starters that aren't cutting it if we're throwing big names around.

I agree with you; we do not need additional bats we need consistency out of the starting staff and Politte to turn it around.

Andruw Jones, Tejada, bah, blah, blah...

What will it cost in now in terms of chemistry and talent? What are the future costs of moves like these?

Tragg
07-04-2006, 07:34 PM
I agree with you; we do not need additional bats we need consistency out of the starting staff and Politte to turn it around.

Andruw Jones, Tejada, bah, blah, blah...

What will it cost in now in terms of chemistry and talent? What are the future costs of moves like these?
I agree; and both of those moves would hurt our D.

Vernam
07-04-2006, 07:38 PM
at tonights sox game, i was telling my brother in law
watch in a month tejada will be a sox.After today's game, the only question is: Who else besides Tejada would we get for Uribe?:cool:

Vernam

Tragg
07-04-2006, 08:04 PM
After today's game, the only question is: Who else besides Tejada would we get for Uribe?:cool:

Vernam
Hear! Hear! (or is it here! here! ?)

Uribe's 9th inning against the Astros will remain with me forever.

MarySwiss
07-04-2006, 08:13 PM
Fine. Here we go again. Flash back to last year...or last week.

This team is awesome. Why try to fix something that isn't broken?

palehozenychicty
07-04-2006, 08:41 PM
Fine. Here we go again. Flash back to last year...or last week.

This team is awesome. Why try to fix something that isn't broken?


As long as Uribe finishes with a .270+ average, I'm fine with him. that's all.

Brian26
07-04-2006, 08:44 PM
After today's game, the only question is: Who else besides Tejada would we get for Uribe?:cool:

Vernam

Tejada looked awful. I know it was only one game, but he hit two very weak balls to second base. Add a strikeout and ground out to that...not a good day.

Chisox003
07-04-2006, 08:57 PM
Uribe is 1 of like only 5 or 6 SS's in the bigs on pace for 80+ RBIs

He's doing just fine

fquaye149
07-04-2006, 09:03 PM
Fine. Here we go again. Flash back to last year...or last week.

This team is awesome. Why try to fix something that isn't broken?

PSH. Mary, when Kenny was dealing for Blum last summer, we all heard the cries--"where's he gonna play!"..."we don't want to change the chemistry just for the sake of adding a megastar"...but the team adapted, and even though we missed Gload and his electric personality, we were able to still win the world series.

Couldn't the same thing happen with Tejada?

Deuce
07-04-2006, 09:03 PM
Tejada is a good pick, but if he that much of an improvement to make the trade. I'm not convinced.

Deuce
07-04-2006, 09:08 PM
Cancel that... Tejada just asked to be placed on the DL.

Miguel Tejada (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5888/), who has made 78 starts at shortstop this season, asked Orioles manager Sam Perlozzo to make him the designated hitter on Tuesday. He was 0-for-4. He has played in 1,003 consecutive games, most among active players. ...

Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=260704104)

MarySwiss
07-04-2006, 10:07 PM
PSH. Mary, when Kenny was dealing for Blum last summer, we all heard the cries--"where's he gonna play!"..."we don't want to change the chemistry just for the sake of adding a megastar"...but the team adapted, and even though we missed Gload and his electric personality, we were able to still win the world series.

Couldn't the same thing happen with Tejada?

fquaye149, my sweet, I've had a few, so refresh my memory (unless you have also had a few). When we added Geoff Blum, who did we give up? And the "adding a megastar" rationale, IIRC, did not come into play; Blum was hardly a megastar.

And yes, I got the teal in the front part of your post, but I didn't see any teal in the last sentence, so:

How does that equate with Uribe for Tejada?

But what the hell do you know, Sexson boy?

chisoxmike
07-04-2006, 10:13 PM
Like centerfield, we already have a shortstop.

We need another bullpen pitcher. Not another bat.

Palehose13
07-04-2006, 10:15 PM
Like centerfield, we already have a shortstop.

We need another bullpen pitcher. Not another bat.

We have a centerfielder? :wink:

chisoxmike
07-04-2006, 10:17 PM
We have a centerfielder? :wink:

:anderson:
"Hi."

Palehose13
07-04-2006, 10:23 PM
:anderson:
"Hi."

Oh, I thought you talking about somone who can hit over .200 in MLB. :wink:

Grzegorz
07-04-2006, 10:25 PM
Humor me; what do the White Sox give up to get Tejada where does he play?

Chips
07-04-2006, 10:31 PM
Like centerfield, we already have a shortstop.

We need another bullpen pitcher. Not another bat.

And with Cliff on the way out :praying:, we will have an opening for that bullpen pitcher.

Uribe is an excellent shortstop.
Anderson is an excellent centerfielder.

fquaye149
07-04-2006, 10:37 PM
fquaye149, my sweet, I've had a few, so refresh my memory (unless you have also had a few). When we added Geoff Blum, who did we give up? And the "adding a megastar" rationale, IIRC, did not come into play; Blum was hardly a megastar.

And yes, I got the teal in the front part of your post, but I didn't see any teal in the last sentence, so:

How does that equate with Uribe for Tejada?

But what the hell do you know, Sexson boy?

Like I said, Ross Gload had to be sent down! The bench was never so loose as they once were. Luckily Kenny had the insight not to send down Timo instead, who despite his lousy hitting and fielding was, as Dino-man Carl Everett claimed, one of the lynchpins to the team.

Chips
07-04-2006, 10:41 PM
Like I said, Ross Gload had to be sent down! The bench was never so loose as they once were. Luckily Kenny had the insight not to send down Timo instead, who despite his lousy hitting and fielding was, as Dino-man Carl Everett claimed, one of the lynchpins to the team.

:?: Timo contributed nothing to this team besides a couple of hits. Nothing.

fquaye149
07-04-2006, 11:38 PM
:?: Timo contributed nothing to this team besides a couple of hits. Nothing.

no ****?

I guess PH13 is right, no matter how obvious you think you're being, teal is always necessary.

Chips
07-04-2006, 11:43 PM
no ****?

I guess PH13 is right, no matter how obvious you think you're being, teal is always necessary.

They are some Timo supporters around here. Teal is necessary.

soxfanreggie
07-05-2006, 07:45 AM
If Uribe has turned the corner offensively and finally "gets it", he could have just become one of the best shortstops in the game, a highly underrated one. I don't know if this is much of a hot streak as it is he improved his mechanics.

I don't think we make this trade, especially if we see Uribe continue to hit the ball like he has of late.

Thome25
07-05-2006, 08:18 AM
We don't need Tejada. Uribe is doing a great job at SS. Why upgrade at shortstop when we're already pretty strong there?

If KW does anything before July 31st we need another relief pitcher NOT MIGUEL TEJADA. If he is going to get a position player then he should go after a CF. I don't think we particularly need a new CF but if your going to upgrade, do it where we might need some help. NOT at SS.

Milw
07-05-2006, 08:49 AM
They are some Timo supporters around here. Teal is necessary.
I didn't realize us Timo supporters were in the minority. Guy was everything you could've wanted from a fourth outfielder. He had how many game-winning hits last year? Four?

Whatever, keep on hating ...

Beer Can Chicken
07-05-2006, 08:54 AM
Getting rid of Uribe at this point makes very little sense even for a Tejada caliber player.

If I were guessing, I imagine the priorities of KW at the moment are:

1. Relief pitching
2. A true, bonafide 4th righty Outfielder NOT another infielder convert

viagracat
07-05-2006, 10:01 AM
Uribe's been the MAN lately. I don't see him going anywhere. :smile:

Like some others here, I think KW's immediate concern is the 'pen; followed closely by CF unless BA can get his act together in a hurry.

Palehose13
07-05-2006, 10:57 AM
I want to state for the record that I am a fan or Uribe, but if you are able to get Migueal Tejada...um, you do it. This is Miguel freaking Tejada!

Oh yeah, and you also get bullpen help and possibly a CFer who is capable of hitting major league baseball pitchers.

PennStater98r
07-05-2006, 11:00 AM
Well, ESPN's rumor mill is stating that the Sox are interested in Tejada. Normally, I would say this is just Gammons talking nonense and making things up to sell his mug - but we know he's not a factor in this.

Could the Sox really be interested in Tejada - could they only be interested in him b/c Detroit is interested in him?

Thome25
07-05-2006, 11:03 AM
Getting rid of Uribe at this point makes very little sense even for a Tejada caliber player.

If I were guessing, I imagine the priorities of KW at the moment are:

1. Relief pitching
2. A true, bonafide 4th righty Outfielder NOT another infielder convert

BA may be the one to fill the "4th righty outfielder" spot if we acquire another centerfielder.

rdwj
07-05-2006, 11:04 AM
Could the Sox really be interested in Tejada - could they only be interested in him b/c Detroit is interested in him?

Interested? Sure
Willing to do what it takes to get him? Probably no

Thome25
07-05-2006, 11:10 AM
I want to state for the record that I am a fan or Uribe, but if you are able to get Migueal Tejada...um, you do it. This is Miguel freaking Tejada!

Oh yeah, and you also get bullpen help and possibly a CFer who is capable of hitting major league baseball pitchers.

This team is one of the best in baseball. I don't see KW making any major blockbuster-type moves because quite frankly, this team doesn't need a Miguel Tejada.

If he does anything at all look for KW to make an under-the-radar type of deal and get us another relief pitcher and/or another CF in Chone Figgins or Milwaukee's Brady Clark.

All of the Miguel Tejada and Andruw Jones rumors need to stop because it ain't gonna happen.

Palehose13
07-05-2006, 11:26 AM
This team is one of the best in baseball. I don't see KW making any major blockbuster-type moves because quite frankly, this team doesn't need a Miguel Tejada.

If he does anything at all look for KW to make an under-the-radar type of deal and get us another relief pitcher and/or another CF in Chone Figgins or Milwaukee's Brady Clark.

All of the Miguel Tejada and Andruw Jones rumors need to stop because it ain't gonna happen.
Funny to have that coming from you considering many thought the same thing about Thome.

I'm not saying that it is going to happen and I'm not holding my breath, but if KW has a chance to get Miquel Tejada...why not give it a look? Why not give Andruw Jones a look? Sure this is one of the best teams in baseball, but Tejada is an upgrade over Uribe. You don't want to get better? If KW had a shot at Santana, would you say "No thanks, we have 5 starters." That's just ridiculous. If you have a chance to improve your team, you do it.

btw...Thanks for telling us what we can and can't talk about.

Frater Perdurabo
07-05-2006, 11:42 AM
I wouldn't put it past KW to at least kick the tires on a possible deal for Tejada. I don't think he's worth what Baltimore would ask or require in such a deal, but if KW can increase the price another team might have to pay to get him, that's even better!

Thome25
07-05-2006, 12:03 PM
Funny to have that coming from you considering many thought the same thing about Thome.

I'm not saying that it is going to happen and I'm not holding my breath, but if KW has a chance to get Miquel Tejada...why not give it a look? Why not give Andruw Jones a look? Sure this is one of the best teams in baseball, but Tejada is an upgrade over Uribe. You don't want to get better? If KW had a shot at Santana, would you say "No thanks, we have 5 starters." That's just ridiculous. If you have a chance to improve your team, you do it.

btw...Thanks for telling us what we can and can't talk about.

Let me start by saying that I'm not telling anyone they can't talk about a certain subject. I didn't want to come off like I was being hostile. This is a great open forum for people to talk about whatever they'd like. I just need whoever is starting these ridiculous rumors to stop. I like to hear the ones that have some form of credibility and reality to them thats all.

I know it isn't anyone here on WSI either. It's originating on ESPN insider and various other websites.

As far as the Miguel Tejada rumors go, I believe an analogy is in order. For us to go out and make a blockbuster trade in an area where we're already pretty strong would be like a person who already drives a Ferrari to and from work everyday deciding that that's not good enough and they need a Lamborghini Diablo or a Rolls Royce to get them from point A to point B.

KW needs to upgrade in our weaker areas rather that focus on areas where we're already pretty deep. I.E. Bullpen help and maybe just maybe a new CF (which I think would be a luxury because in my opinion we don't really need one.)

1917
07-05-2006, 12:10 PM
[quote=Palehose13]I want to state for the record that I am a fan or Uribe, but if you are able to get Migueal Tejada...um, you do it. This is Miguel freaking Tejada!

Thank you! But man will our payroll sore into the wild blue yonder!

Frater Perdurabo
07-05-2006, 12:11 PM
As far as the Miguel Tejada rumors go, I believe an analogy is in order. For us to go out and make a blockbuster trade in an area where we're already pretty strong would be like a person who already drives a Ferrari to and from work everyday deciding that that's not good enough and they need a Lamborghini Diablo or a Rolls Royce to get them from point A to point B.

KW needs to upgrade in our weaker areas rather that focus on areas where we're already pretty deep. I.E. Bullpen help and maybe just maybe a new CF (which I think would be a luxury because in my opinion we don't really need one.)

I don't know if Tejada is a Diablo; he's more of a Corvette or maybe a Porsche 911 (Alex Rodriguez would be the Lamborghini or Rolls Royce of shortstops). Uribe is a souped up Camaro or Mustang that sometimes spins its wheels but other times produces with the big boys.
:tongue:

I agree that bullpen is the top priority. I think that CF is fine.

Thome25
07-05-2006, 12:17 PM
I don't know if Tejada is a Diablo; he's more of a Corvette or maybe a Porsche 911 (Alex Rodriguez would be the Lamborghini or Rolls Royce of shortstops). Uribe is a souped up Camaro or Mustang that sometimes spins its wheels but other times produces with the big boys.
:tongue:

I agree that bullpen is the top priority. I think that CF is fine.

:D: That's hilarious!! Thanks for clearing that up!!