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russ99
07-02-2006, 04:58 PM
Tonight at 6pm.

I hope it's posted on MLB.com at 6, I'm in no mood today for an hour-long worship service on ESPN of all things Yankmees, Red Cubs and Mets. :angry: :angry:

The Sox better have at least 3 players named. I'm going with Thome, Conteras, Jenks and maybe Iguchi or Dye.

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 05:04 PM
Contreras
Jenks
Thome
Dye
Crede
Konerko

(Iguchi should take Cano's roster spot, but we'll see...)

Greedy? Perhaps. Accurate? Absolutely.

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 05:05 PM
Is there going to be a "Gamethread" for the selection show?

BanditJimmy
07-02-2006, 05:06 PM
I see it more like:

Jenks, Thome, & Konerko.


Dye and Crede might be on your 32 man ballot which would suck because of votes being split.


Contreras and Buehrle pitched themselves off the roster with their last starts. And you won't get any arguement from if none of our starters make it on the team. I just hope for them a good long extended rest and hopefully they can turn it around in the 2nd half.

russ99
07-02-2006, 05:13 PM
I see it more like:

Jenks, Thome, & Konerko.

Dye and Crede might be on your 32 man ballot which would suck because of votes being split.

Contreras and Buehrle pitched themselves off the roster with their last starts. And you won't get any arguement from if none of our starters make it on the team. I just hope for them a good long extended rest and hopefully they can turn it around in the 2nd half.

Thome & Konerko - I can't see taking the idiot comissioner taking both in an NL park. Gotta go with the AL homer leader in this one.

If Paulie's in the final vote, he'll get in. :wink:

I like Dye's chances, especially in the player/coach poll, and Iguchi should be Cano's replacement and Ozzies only homer pick.

RKMeibalane
07-02-2006, 05:15 PM
Here it is, the *Official* All Popularity Contest Selection Show thread! Have at it!

thomas35forever
07-02-2006, 05:18 PM
They said on the pregame show that Contreras, Jenks, and Paulie should be in. Everyone else is on the bubble. I'll have to go with Iguchi, Thome, and Dye for the rest of them.

Harry Potter
07-02-2006, 05:26 PM
According to ABC Ch. 7 news broadcast, there will be 7 Sox players going to Pittsburgh. 35 minutes until we find out! :cool:

RKMeibalane
07-02-2006, 05:28 PM
According to ABC Ch. 7 news broadcast, there will be 7 Sox players going to Pittsburgh. 35 minutes until we find out! :cool:

That's great! I never would have thought they'd get seven players into the game.

LuvSox
07-02-2006, 05:33 PM
That's going to cost me a lot of money in jerseys.

Fenway
07-02-2006, 05:36 PM
According to ABC Ch. 7 news broadcast, there will be 7 Sox players going to Pittsburgh. 35 minutes until we find out! :cool:

I guess Ozzie can't keep a secret :tongue:

DumpJerry
07-02-2006, 05:47 PM
On the Channel 7 news (owned by the same company as ESPN), the reporter said there are 7 White Sox and 1 Cub in the ASG. The Cub "throws the ball a lot" was the only clue given for the 8 names. Sounds like Zambrano is an All-Star.

chisoxmike
07-02-2006, 05:50 PM
The fans vote is joke. I'd rather have the players and coaches vote the players on.

The AL starters will feature the "best" of the AL East. Ozzie will probably keep them in only for an at bat anyway.

peeonwrigley
07-02-2006, 05:55 PM
On the Channel 7 news (owned by the same company as ESPN), the reporter said there are 7 White Sox and 1 Cub in the ASG. The Cub "throws the ball a lot" was the only clue given for the 8 names. Sounds like Zambrano is an All-Star.
If I had to guess:
Thome
Paulie
Dye
Crede
Jose
Jenks
Iguchi

AJ deserves to go, too. Maybe on the extra man ballot.

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 05:56 PM
If I had to guess:
Thome
Paulie
Dye
Crede
Jose
Jenks
Iguchi


Great minds...!

Chisox003
07-02-2006, 06:01 PM
The fans vote is joke. I'd rather have the players and coaches vote the players on.
I was just thinking that, and I'd love to see it.

What is this "music" they're playing in the opening? :?:

Woof

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 06:01 PM
God...this song is brutally bad.

Audio cancer.

SOXfnNlansing
07-02-2006, 06:02 PM
I hope it's all yankees and red sox on the team

jenn2080
07-02-2006, 06:03 PM
God I hate hearing about the Red Sox

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 06:04 PM
Manny Ramirez: "The most entertaining person in the world" -John Kruk

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 06:05 PM
No love for Dye from these "experts".

No surprise there.

whitesoxfan
07-02-2006, 06:05 PM
AL Starting OF:

Manny
Vlad
Ichiro

SOXfnNlansing
07-02-2006, 06:05 PM
AL outfield Manny,Vlad, and Ichiro

whitesoxfan
07-02-2006, 06:06 PM
Mark Loretta at 2nd? Jesus.

At least Pudge passed Varitek for catchers voting.

Joosh
07-02-2006, 06:06 PM
No Sox in starting line-up.

jenn2080
07-02-2006, 06:06 PM
3 out of 8 not red sox yankees. BLAH!

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 06:06 PM
AL starting line-up is a JOKE.

itsnotrequired
07-02-2006, 06:07 PM
3 out of 8 not red sox yankees. BLAH!

Would you expect any less?

Fan voting is the worst...

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 06:07 PM
Paulie!

EDIT: this is confusing...did he or did he not make it?

thomas35forever
07-02-2006, 06:07 PM
Is Kruk trying to get a DH in the All-Star Game? At least he's defending Paulie.

edit: I think he said he should start instead of Papi.

MrT27
07-02-2006, 06:08 PM
Did Kruk slip up a little bit ago? He said somehting like "well Ozzie took two of his 1st baseman" or something along those lines. Then tried to correct himself by saying "well i mean he should select 2 of them".

It's Time
07-02-2006, 06:08 PM
What the ****!! How can Ortiz get the nod over Paul? Time for a change in the voting process. This is a joke!

itsnotrequired
07-02-2006, 06:09 PM
Konerko, Thome and Dye as reserves. Contreras, Buehrle and Jenks as pitchers.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/all_star/y2006/roster_league.jsp

DSpivack
07-02-2006, 06:09 PM
On the Channel 7 news (owned by the same company as ESPN), the reporter said there are 7 White Sox and 1 Cub in the ASG. The Cub "throws the ball a lot" was the only clue given for the 8 names. Sounds like Zambrano is an All-Star.

That's odd, Channel 2 said 6 White Sox (and 1 Cub) are in the game.

CHISOXFAN13
07-02-2006, 06:09 PM
No Sox in starting line-up.

Are you surprised? That was pretty obvious going in.

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 06:09 PM
Yeah, I was wondering about that myself.

My guess: he slipped.

DSpivack
07-02-2006, 06:10 PM
What the ****!! How can Ortiz get the nod over Paul? Time for a change in the voting process. This is a joke!

If you're including DHs as 1B, I have no problem with Ortiz over Konerko and Thome; Ortiz has 26 HRs and 75 RBIs.

The better question is how in the hell is Joe Mauer not the starting C?

Fenway
07-02-2006, 06:10 PM
Rosters on mlb.com

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/all_star/y2006/roster_league.jsp

Joosh
07-02-2006, 06:11 PM
Are you surprised? That was pretty obvious going in.

There was some talk of Gooch starting at second base.

Not completely obvious.

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 06:11 PM
Thanks fenway.

Looks like we're going to have to put Crede in with the final vote!

DumpJerry
07-02-2006, 06:12 PM
That's odd, Channel 2 said 6 White Sox (and 1 Cub) are in the game.
Channel 2 doesn't like us.

walrus
07-02-2006, 06:12 PM
Sox:

Buehrle
Contreras
Jenks
Dye
Konerko
Thome

American League Starters
All-Star
Pos Player B/T Age Games

1B David Ortiz, BOS L/L 30 3

2B Mark Loretta, BOS R/R 34 2

3B Alex Rodriguez, NYY R/R 30 9

SS Derek Jeter, NYY R/R 32 7

C Ivan Rodriguez, DET L/R 23 1

OF Vladimir Guerrero, LAA R/R 30 7

OF Manny Ramirez, BOS R/R 34 8

OF Ichiro Suzuki, SEA L/R 32 6
American League Pitchers
All-Star
Pos Player B/T Age Games

SP Mark Buerhle, CWS L/L 27 3

SP Jose Contreras, CWS R/R 34 1

SP Roy Halladay, TOR R/R 29 2

SP Scott Kazmir, TB L/L 22 1

SP Mark Redman, KC L/L 32 1

SP Kenny Rogers, DET L/L 41 3

SP Johan Santana, MIN L/L 27 2

SP Barry Zito, OAK L/L 28 2
All-Star
Pos Player B/T Age Games

RP Bobby Jenks, CWS R/R 25 1

RP Jon Papelbon, BOS R/R 25 1

RP Mariano Rivera, NYY R/R 36 6

RP B.J. Ryan, TOR L/L 30 2

American League Reserves
All-Star
Pos Player B/T Age Games

1B Paul Konerko, CWS R/R 30 3

1B Jim Thome, CWS L/R 35 5

2B Robinson Cano, NYY L/R 23 1

2B Jose Lopez, SEA R/R 22 1

3B Troy Glaus, TOR R/R 29 4

SS Miguel Tejada, BAL R/R 30 4

SS Michael Young, TEX R/R 29 3

C Joe Mauer, MIN L/R 23 1

OF Jermaine Dye, CWS R/R 32 2

OF Alex Rios, TOR R/R 25 1

OF Gary Matthews, Jr., TEX S/R 31 1

OF Grady Sizemore, CLE L/L 23 1

OF Vernon Wells, TOR R/R 27 2



National League Starters
All-Star
Pos Player B/T Age Games

1B Albert Pujols, STL R/R 26 5

2B Chase Utley, PHI L/R 27 1

3B David Wright, NYM R/R 23 1

SS Jose Reyes, NYM S/R 23 1

C Paul Lo Duca, NYM R/R 34 4

OF Jason Bay, PIT R/R 27 1

OF Carlos Beltran, NYM S/R 29 3

OF Alfonso Soriano, WSH R/R 30 5
National League Pitchers
All-Star
Pos Player B/T Age Games

SP Carlos Zambrano, CHC S/R 25 2

SP Bronson Arroyo, CIN R/R 29 1

SP Brad Penny, LAD R/R 28 1

SP Tom Glavine, NYM L/L 40 7

SP Pedro Martinez, NYM R/R 34 4

SP Chris Carpenter, STL R/R 31 2

SP Jason Schmidt, SF R/R 33 2
All-Star
Pos Player B/T Age Games

RP Brian Fuentes, COL L/L 30 1

RP Derrick Turnbow, MIL R/R 28 1

RP Tom Gordon, PHI R/R 38 3

RP Trevor Hoffman, SD R/R 38 5
National League Reserves
All-Star
Pos Player B/T Age Games

1B Lance Berkman, HOU S/L 30 4

1B Ryan Howard, PHI L/L 26 1

2B Dan Uggla, FLA R/R 26 1

3B Miguel Cabrera, FLA R/R 23 3

3B Freddy Sanchez, PIT R/R 28 1

3B Scott Rolen, STL R/R 31 4

SS Edgar Renteria, ATL R/R 30 5

C Brian McCann, ATL L/R 22 1

OF Andruw Jones, ATL R/R 29 5

OF Matt Holliday, COL R/R 26 1

OF Carlos Lee, MIL R/R 29 2

kkappelk
07-02-2006, 06:13 PM
iguchi got screwed in favor of Jose Lopez!

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/all_star/y2006/roster_league.jsp

thomas35forever
07-02-2006, 06:13 PM
Do we really need to watch ESPN now that we know who's in?

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 06:13 PM
Do we really need to watch ESPN now that we know who's in?

Good point.

kkappelk
07-02-2006, 06:14 PM
Here's the link
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/all_star/y2006/roster_league.jsp

DumpJerry
07-02-2006, 06:14 PM
Merger time

jenn2080
07-02-2006, 06:15 PM
Cubs only got Zambrano in.

Glad to see Big Bad Bobby

Fenway
07-02-2006, 06:15 PM
Do we really need to watch ESPN now that we know who's in?

No

Loretta getting in shows the danger of internet voting.

Frater Perdurabo
07-02-2006, 06:16 PM
I understand that Mauer deserves to go more than AJ, but Joe Crede has been robbed. Glaus has more homers (22), but nowhere near the average (.248) or defense that Crede has produced.

:angry:

SoxandtheCityTee
07-02-2006, 06:16 PM
There are in fact six Sox: Dye, Thome, Paulie and Jose picked by the players; Jenks and Buerhle by Ozzie.

http://whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060702&content_id=1534665&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

DumpJerry
07-02-2006, 06:17 PM
Channel 7 gets it wrong again. 6 White Sox players.
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/all_star/y2006/roster_league.jsp

DSpivack
07-02-2006, 06:19 PM
iguchi got screwed in favor of Jose Lopez!

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/all_star/y2006/roster_league.jsp

Iguchi: .290/.344/.420, 8 HRs and 37 RBIs
Lopez: .280/.315/.469, 9 HRs and 57 RBIs

BanditJimmy
07-02-2006, 06:19 PM
Give me Crede over Buehrle all year please!!!

Especially after today's game.

soxfanreggie
07-02-2006, 06:20 PM
My guess, we'll see Bobby pitch for sure. Not sure if Ozzie will use MB or JC. They get their ring, they get their bonus, and I'm sure they wouldn't mind pitching, but I would like to see Rogers throw 3 or 4 innings and not have Jose go on 2 days rest :D: .

The AL certainly has the experience; although, how many of those selections were because of the popular vote.

whitesoxfan
07-02-2006, 06:21 PM
Can't complain with 6 All-Stars :cool:

anewman35
07-02-2006, 06:22 PM
Well, there's a few more that could have went, but it's hard to argue with 6 (most of any AL team)...

And maybe we can get one more with the 32nd man.

peeonwrigley
07-02-2006, 06:22 PM
Crede should be in over Glaus. Shows the importance of the gaudy HR number, though.

whitesoxfan
07-02-2006, 06:23 PM
That is a joke that Mark Redman is in the All-Star game. MLB needs to do away with the 1 player a team rule.

hi im skot
07-02-2006, 06:24 PM
Ozzie sticks it to Boston and doesn't take Schilling.

soxfanreggie
07-02-2006, 06:25 PM
Harold Reynolds goes "Manager picking his own guy" refering to MB. Well duh he's going to pick his own guy. Is it right?...No. Would every other manager do the same?...Yes. Nobody can argue with the selection of Jenks. Him and Papelbon are the best relievers in the league.

If the starter goes 2 (probably not 3 if it's JC), then you have 11 other guys to go 7 innings. You won't see Redman pitch unless it's a blowout and maybe not MB.

russ99
07-02-2006, 06:26 PM
Any word on the lists for the final vote?

Maybe A.J. or Iguchi?

rowand33
07-02-2006, 06:26 PM
I laughed out loud at Schilling not making it after he'd openly said he wanted to start it...

Epark84
07-02-2006, 06:27 PM
I love buerhle in spite of today, but he doesnt deserve to even be going let alone starting

buehrle4cy05
07-02-2006, 06:27 PM
Any word on the lists for the final vote?

Maybe A.J. or Iguchi?

:crede
"Why am I not in the game?"

Mr. White Sox
07-02-2006, 06:29 PM
Buehrle tabbed as All-Star starter (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-060702allstar,1,4203788.story?coll=cs-home-headlines)

rowand33
07-02-2006, 06:31 PM
Iguchi is definately on the team in place of Cano.

hopefully we can get Crede in on the 32nd man vote.

HotelWhiteSox
07-02-2006, 06:34 PM
The 7 from ABC must be referring to the one final fan vote. Multiple Sox have cases to be on there. Hopefully Crede, as Cano is injured and Oz should take Iguchi. AJ has a case, but we will get screwed if we have more than one guy, they always cancel each other out

LuvSox
07-02-2006, 06:36 PM
I laughed out loud at Schilling not making it after he'd openly said he wanted to start it...

So did I :D:

LuvSox
07-02-2006, 06:37 PM
Damn, no AJ :(:

MrT27
07-02-2006, 06:37 PM
And you final vote guys...

Travis Hafner, CLE Bobby Abreu, PHI Ramon Hernandez, BAL Chris Capuano, MIL Francisco Liriano, MIN Nomar Garciaparra, LAD A.J. Pierzynski, CWS Billy Wagner, NYM Justin Verlander, DET Chris Young, SD

i looked and i got these names because you can vote for them right now!

http://whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060702&content_id=1534055&vkey=allstar2006&fext=.jsp

click "cast your final vote"

russ99
07-02-2006, 06:37 PM
Final vote is in!

Travis Hafner, CLE
Ramon Hernandez, BAL
Francisco Liriano, MIN
A.J. Pierzynski, CWS
Justin Verlander, DET

Get ready to vote the "most hated" player in!!! :D: Oh, and no Bos/NYY opponent!

He deserves it even more than Scott last year.

whitesoxfan
07-02-2006, 06:37 PM
The 7 from ABC must be referring to the one final fan vote. Multiple Sox have cases to be on there. Hopefully Crede, as Cano is injured and Oz should take Iguchi. AJ has a case, but we will get screwed if we have more than one guy, they always cancel each other out

Hopefully just one of the Sox players is on the final ballot because if there are 2, the votes will split and the chances of either one of the players winning the vote would decrease significantly.

thewalkoffshot
07-02-2006, 06:39 PM
Any word on the lists for the final vote?

Maybe A.J. or Iguchi?
AJ is in the last man in vote, against:

Travis Hafner
Ramon Hernandez
Francisco Liriano
Justin Verlander

Edit: Looks like I've been beaten.

DSpivack
07-02-2006, 06:39 PM
Final vote is in!

Travis Hafner, CLE
Ramon Hernandez, BAL
Francisco Liriano, MIN
A.J. Pierzynski, CWS
Justin Verlander, DET

Get ready to vote the "most hated" player in!!! :D: Oh, and no Bos/NYY opponent!

He deserves it even more than Scott last year.
Liriano will probably win that one. I wonder who decides it; no criticism of AJ, but Crede deserves it WAY more.

LuvSox
07-02-2006, 06:39 PM
*****! Stop whining you ESPN dorks. Joe Torre abused his picks a helluva lot more than Ozzie.

chisoxmike
07-02-2006, 06:40 PM
Reynolds bashing Ozzie for bringing his own guys... seems to forget about Torre and Francona

gf2020
07-02-2006, 06:42 PM
*****! Stop whining you ESPN dorks. Joe Torre abused his picks a helluva lot more than Ozzie.
Agreed. What upsets me is they never say who they would remove from the roster in order to put someone else on. Can any of them tell us honestly that Dye, Thome or Konerko aren't all-stars?

There was one reach and that was for Mark. That graphic with him and Schilling today was asanine. What was Mark's ERA before today when the decisions were already made?

If I had to guess, Crede, Iguchi or AJ will be on the 32 man ballot. Hopefully, not two of them.

Chisox003
07-02-2006, 06:44 PM
These people are unreal.

What does "There's no Schilling, no Randy Johnson, yet the A.L. has guys like Buehrle and Contreras, selected by their manager Ozzie Guillen" mean???

**** you ESPN.

Edit: And they're acting like Dye and Thome and Konerko don't deserve to be there and are only going because Ozzie picked them. Reynolds crying "It's unfair, guys who deserve to go aren't going" .... WHO THE **** DESERVES TO GO MORE HAROLD?

y2j2785
07-02-2006, 06:46 PM
AJ is on the final man vote. I just posted the final vote ballots in the Talking Baseball section.

whitesoxfan
07-02-2006, 06:47 PM
These people are unreal.

What does "There's no Schilling, no Randy Johnson, yet the A.L. has guys like Buehrle and Contreras, selected by their manager Ozzie Guillen" mean???

**** you ESPN.

Edit: And they're acting like Dye and Thome and Konerko don't deserve to be there and are only going because Ozzie picked them. Reynolds crying "It's unfair, guys who deserve to go aren't going" .... WHO THE **** DESERVES TO GO MORE HAROLD?

Hell, I'd take Redman over Johnson :tongue:

Chisox003
07-02-2006, 06:48 PM
AJ is on the final man vote. I just posted the final vote ballots in the Talking Baseball section.
Let's get him in there.

Last year was awesome getting everyone behind Pods. Let's get AJ in.

God I hate ESPN.

anewman35
07-02-2006, 06:51 PM
"Notables Not Selected: Roger Clemens"

***? Is ESPN actually surprised by that?

LuvSox
07-02-2006, 06:54 PM
Let's get him in there.

Last year was awesome getting everyone behind Pods. Let's get AJ in.

God I hate ESPN.

Let's get him in to **** ESPN and everybody else around baseball!

NonetheLoaiza
07-02-2006, 06:56 PM
I understand that they have to create some waves and disagree with eachother to make for a more interesting show, but for everyone's sake...do some research to back up your statements, ESPN.

The part where Harold said that MLB needs to do something to get the picks away from the manager is ridiculous. Not because of Ozzie's picks, but because the idiots in Boston and NY have Mark Loretta starting 2b and Ortiz starting 1b. If anything needs to be refined, it's the fan's voting process. Mark Loretta starting second base for the AL is atrocious. He took Iguchi's spot on the roster. If Boston wants to complain about Schilling, hey, they want Mark Loretta starting 2b, it costs them Schilling for Buerhle.

whitesoxfan
07-02-2006, 06:57 PM
Dye in the HR Derby!

GregoryEtc
07-02-2006, 06:57 PM
JD in the Home Run Derby

SOXintheBURGH
07-02-2006, 06:57 PM
If you are going to "make this one count," fans should have no more than 1/3rd of the say in voting.

Ortiz is the starting 1B!? He played what, six games at that position this season?

chisoxmike
07-02-2006, 06:59 PM
WHOA WHOA WHOA

Nick Swisher is on the final vote instead of A.J. according to ESPN. ***?

ShoelessJoeS
07-02-2006, 06:59 PM
What a joke this is...

Glaus: .248, 22 HRs, 57 RBI
Crede: .302, 15 HRs, 55 RBI

And Buehrle is much less deserving than at least 2 of his fellow White Sox

VenturaFan23
07-02-2006, 06:59 PM
Do you think putting in Swisher's name instead of AJ's in the 32nd player vote was an 'accident' by ESPN? :rolleyes:

Palehose13
07-02-2006, 07:06 PM
Edit: And they're acting like Dye and Thome and Konerko don't deserve to be there and are only going because Ozzie picked them.

Didn't the players pick Dye, Konerko, Thome, and Contreras? If they did, ESPN has nothing to bitch about.

The only one who I believe doesn't belong is Buehrle. IMO, Ozzie should have picked Crede or Iguchi instead.

ShoelessJoeS
07-02-2006, 07:18 PM
Didn't the players pick Dye, Konerko, Thome, and Contreras? If they did, ESPN has nothing to bitch about.

The only one who I believe doesn't belong is Buehrle. IMO, Ozzie should have picked Crede or Iguchi instead.Exactly. He's been FAR too inconsistent to deserve to be there. Crede should be going instead of him IMO as well. Talk about being clutch, Crede's the guy you want in that situation and has provided huge hits all season. What was Ozzie thinking taking Mark instead? And doesn't he always say that Gooch is his MVP?

NonetheLoaiza
07-02-2006, 07:28 PM
Exactly. He's been FAR too inconsistent to deserve to be there. Crede should be going instead of him IMO as well. Talk about being clutch, Crede's the guy you want in that situation and has provided huge hits all season. What was Ozzie thinking taking Mark instead? And doesn't he always say that Gooch is his MVP?
As far as Gooch goes, you can thank Boston for letting Loretta start...

Too many deserving players. Not enough spots. Hopefully, Crede will take the time to rest and just be a dude. Who knows, a couple spots might open up for him or Gooch to get in.

EDIT: Found this article on ESPN by some dude (Keith Law is his name). It's for Insiders, but it is absolutely atrocious. It says that Ozzie should have taken Liriano over Jenks because Jenks is "a hard-throwing and mediocre-performing pitcher in the minors who has thrown fewer innings (76 2/3) in his major league career than Liriano has this season -- and whose 2006 ERA is higher than Liriano's, despite the fact that Jenks is a full-time reliever." He then goes on to call Ozzie a MLB's 'resident jerk'. The rest of that article is atrocious as well. You have to read it to believe it.

Lip Man 1
07-02-2006, 07:55 PM
Folks:

Keep something in mind. There is still one week till the All Popularity Contest meaning someone is going to get hurt (either a real injury or a made up one...)

If I were Crede, Iguchi or A.J. I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet.

Lip

Pierzynski 12
07-02-2006, 08:12 PM
I-Roid starting over Mauer is a joke.

ShoelessJoeS
07-02-2006, 08:13 PM
I-Roid starting over Mauer is a joke.The whole fan voting system is a joke.

Pierzynski 12
07-02-2006, 08:15 PM
The whole fan voting system is a joke.

Indeed it is. You're right on.:cheers:

Timmy D's
07-02-2006, 08:17 PM
This whole Eastern Seaboard All Star team has me all pizzed off now. Hurry up and get it over w/ so we can get on to the 2nd half of the season and another WS penant. :angry: :angry: I'm putting it on the pay no mind list now.

CubsfansareDRUNK
07-02-2006, 08:25 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that BRANDON WEBB isnt even on there???

LincolnSquareOz
07-02-2006, 08:37 PM
It's absurd that Hafner and Liriano aren't on these rosters. Not having a DH screws everything up.

Serious cases could have been made for Iguchi, Nathan, Morneau, Grudzy, Nomar, Giambi, and Oswalt.

If I had to sqeeze a guy off it would be probably be Bobby.

Turnbow? Matthews Jr.? Not worthy.

shaunburnette
07-02-2006, 08:43 PM
Webb is listed on the NL roster.

SoxFanPrope
07-02-2006, 09:00 PM
What the ****!! How can Ortiz get the nod over Paul? Time for a change in the voting process. This is a joke!
Like how about 1 vote. Here is something that always pissed me off about the All-Star Game. I realize you have to change every year from National to American Leagues, but why have the pitcher bat? That is just a wasted spot on the line-up card. Put a DH in there, regardless of American or National League, it is still for the fans right?

I'd rather see Thome hit than Contreras.

LauraJ14
07-02-2006, 09:13 PM
The reason Ortiz is on the ballot at first base is that the Red Sox decided to put him there.
And if Schilling deserved to be there, then why didn't the players vote him in? Ozzie's comments about several pitchers pitching on Sunday before the All-Star game and that's why they weren't on the team. Too bad EPSN couldn't do their homework and figure out who those guys were

SoxFanPrope
07-02-2006, 09:36 PM
The reason Ortiz is on the ballot at first base is that the Red Sox decided to put him there.
And if Schilling deserved to be there, then why didn't the players vote him in? Ozzie's comments about several pitchers pitching on Sunday before the All-Star game and that's why they weren't on the team. Too bad EPSN couldn't do their homework and figure out who those guys were
Informed Opinion from ESPN is a lot like saying 'jumbo shrimp.' I hope someday a focus group will let network execs know that people want to see intelligent insight in all types of news.

rookie
07-02-2006, 09:46 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060702&content_id=1535051&vkey=allstar2006&fext=.jsp


He invoked it as a perk to some of the pitchers who carried him to the 2005 World Series title and again have him in the hunt -- adding left-hander Mark Buehrle and Jenks.

That raised the White Sox's contingent to a league-high six -- ironically, none of them in the starting lineup, and the team's biggest since 1960, when seven South Siders were chosen. Players' selections include Jose Contreras, the right-hander closing in on an undefeated year, Paul Konerko, Jim Thome and Jermaine Dye.



Ozzie only handpicked Mark and Bobby. The players selected our other four. ESPN has the nerve to complaining about us having 4, since they are the reason why there are so many Yankees/Red Sox. If Ozzie really did load the team with Sox players (which he didn't), it's no different than what they do letting everyone think that the only players out there are on the Yankees or Red Sox.

Ozzie knew before he even selected players that everyone was going to be mad at him. The media just likes to be ticked off at him, just like they like to be ticked off with AJ. Well, whether they like it or not Ozzie is going to be managing the game. And whether they like it or not, if Sox fans have anything to say (or mouse click) about it, AJ will be at the game. That would put a wrench into their "most hated player" theory.:cool:

Oblong
07-02-2006, 09:50 PM
I have no problem with a manager picking his own guys. He has to live with them all year and it's one of the perks. The league has already conceded that it's not about the very best team you could field since they let the fans vote and you need a guy from each time. If they thought it would be a problem then take the right away.

It's a deserved perk.

GOod point about ESPN. They market the Red Sox and Yankees all season long and that helps get those players voted in, then they complain about possibly too many guys from a single team who might not be deserving over someone else?

On the flip side, Garner only picked on Astro. Maybe he wants to send a message to his team.

fusillirob1983
07-02-2006, 10:54 PM
I voted once and then it said vote again. I tried to vote again, but it said I was ineligible to vote. Did anyone else have this same problem?

RealMenWearBlack
07-02-2006, 11:54 PM
I could see why Ozzie would choose Buehrle for the All Star game before today. I'm really surprised he took (or the players voted for) Glaus and Lopez (to a lesser extent). I think we have a good shot of getting AJ. into the game. We have a pretty big fan base compared to the other teams in the final vote, and I doubt many Yankees and Red Sox fans are going to care enough to vote that many times.

Beautox
07-03-2006, 12:40 AM
It's absurd that Hafner and Liriano aren't on these rosters. Not having a DH screws everything up.

Serious cases could have been made for Iguchi, Nathan, Morneau, Grudzy, Nomar, Giambi, and Oswalt.

If I had to sqeeze a guy off it would be probably be Bobby.

Turnbow? Matthews Jr.? Not worthy.

So you would "sqeeze" the guy who has the best save % 25/26 and is tied for the lead in saves (papelbon has blown one more save than jenks), and a k/9 of 10.37? are you serious?