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Whitesox4ever
06-23-2006, 11:15 AM
from the Washington Post

If the Orioles put Tejada on the trading block, there likely would be no shortage of suitors. The Angels, who have been looking for a power bat, seem like a perfect fit since they have a surplus of young talent in their minor league system. The Tigers or White Sox could also be possibilities.

Luke
06-23-2006, 11:18 AM
With Kenny's reputation, the Sox are likely to be mentioned as suitors any big name. I'm sure the O's (or anyone for that matter) will insist that Brandon be included in anytrade talks.

Hitmen77
06-23-2006, 11:33 AM
You know, I really missed all the Tejada rumors from last winter. I'm glad these rumors are coming back.

Funniest part of the Tejada trade rumors from the offseason was when Paul Sullivan said that Tejada, who wanted out of Baltimore because of their failure to win, would welcome a trade to the Cubs. :thud:

LuvSox
06-23-2006, 11:35 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again:

Where's he gonna play?

Luke
06-23-2006, 11:41 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again:

Where's he gonna play?
Centerfield and long relief.

Wimpy
06-23-2006, 12:09 PM
I've said it before, I'll say it again:

Where's he gonna play?

Shortstop.

Gavin
06-23-2006, 12:11 PM
I've said it before, I'll say it again:

Where's he gonna play?

I would seriously take Tejada over Uribe any day of the week.

1917
06-23-2006, 12:19 PM
I don't think the huge increase in payroll is worth the reward, we have the 2nd best record in all of baseball, Uribe is heating up and Cintron as been a fine backup, we need bull pen help, our hitting is fine.

Madvora
06-23-2006, 12:47 PM
I think this team like Uribe too much to do that. I can't see the purpose either of spending that kind of money.
Maybe if Uribe ends up at .220 at the end of the year or something, they would look for another SS, but right now I can't see it. His defense is so good and he's starting to heat up offensively now too.

I like this feeling over the last two years of not being all tense at the trade deadline. It's nice to know that your team can already kick anyone's ass without waiting for reinforcements to come in.

LuvSox
06-23-2006, 01:00 PM
I think this team like Uribe too much to do that. I can't see the purpose either of spending that kind of money.
Maybe if Uribe ends up at .220 at the end of the year or something, they would look for another SS, but right now I can't see it. His defense is so good and he's starting to heat up offensively now too.

I like this feeling over the last two years of not being all tense at the trade deadline. It's nice to know that your team can already kick anyone's ass without waiting for reinforcements to come in.

Bingo!

dagame2005
06-23-2006, 01:11 PM
At this point why would we want Tejada? or the Tigers for that matter? Tejada is an upgrade over Uribe, but we would likely have to give up too much to get him. Besides Uribe's defense is great (although he has been having problems with the throws on double plays lately). He is good enough with the bat in our lineup. As far as the Tigers go, they already have a damn good shortstop in Carlos Guillen, who is not only a clutch hitter, but also one of the leaders of that ballclub.

Whitesox4ever
06-23-2006, 01:26 PM
Tejada would be a huge upgrade over Uribe..

He is batting 320 with 16 Hrs and 54 rbis..

We would have a deadly 3-6 hitters

JohnBasedowYoda
06-23-2006, 01:30 PM
I don't want the trade but if Tejada was on the Sox...hoooooohhhh Boy! Would that be the most powerful White Sox lineup ever?

spiffie
06-23-2006, 01:41 PM
2006:
Juan Uribe: 225/251/390 8HR
Miguel Tejada: 319/374/529 16HR

Career Avg's (HR/RBI per 162):
Juan Uribe: 259/301/428 17HR, 76RBI
Miguel Tejada: 282/340/480 28HR, 110RBI

A possible lineup (with current stats)

1. Podsednik - LF 249/337/361
2. Iguchi - 2B 292/344/412
3. Thome - DH 288/417/631 24HR
4. Konerko - 1B 321/396/580 18HR
5. Dye - RF 301/391/620 20HR
6. Tejada - SS 319/374/529 16HR
7. Pierzynski - C 322/366/445
8. Crede - 3B 303/336/520 13HR
9. Anderson - CF 178/274/309

I know people would say "Uribe brings defense" and he does. But the difference between his defense and Tejada's defense is minimal. Also, with that much more pop in the lineup it becomes even easier to keep Anderson in the lineup, giving us the Gold Glove caliber defense he brings in CF. You can play Anderson, letting him know his bat isn't important if he brings the glove, and not have to worry about "do we put in Mackowiak to get some extra offense."

I'd give them any 3-4 prospects except McCarthy for Tejada. And I might even give Brandon if they eat some of the salary.

champagne030
06-23-2006, 01:46 PM
Tejada would be a huge upgrade over Uribe..

He is batting 320 with 16 Hrs and 54 rbis..

We would have more deadly 3-6 hitters

Fixed it for ya....

Jjav829
06-23-2006, 01:48 PM
The Baltimore Sun says:

Despite rumors that the Los Angeles Angels are interested in Miguel Tejada (http://www.baltimoresun.com/extras/sports/baseball/cards2006/tejada.html) , a high-ranking Orioles official said a midseason deal is unlikely.

The official said no Oriole is off-limits but that a team would have to offer front-line major league talent to obtain a player of Tejada's stature. Such deals are generally hard to construct during the season, the official said.

I'd love to get Tejada, but I doubt they would go for a package of prospects.

rdwj
06-23-2006, 01:49 PM
You know, I really missed all the Tejada rumors from last winter. I'm glad these rumors are coming back.

Ya, hopefully we can get some Ken Griffey talk going too!

FedEx227
06-23-2006, 01:51 PM
2006:
Juan Uribe: 225/251/390 8HR
Miguel Tejada: 319/374/529 16HR

Career Avg's (HR/RBI per 162):
Juan Uribe: 259/301/428 17HR, 76RBI
Miguel Tejada: 282/340/480 28HR, 110RBI

A possible lineup (with current stats)

1. Podsednik - LF 249/337/361
2. Iguchi - 2B 292/344/412
3. Thome - DH 288/417/631 24HR
4. Konerko - 1B 321/396/580 18HR
5. Dye - RF 301/391/620 20HR
6. Tejada - SS 319/374/529 16HR
7. Pierzynski - C 322/366/445
8. Crede - 3B 303/336/520 13HR
9. Anderson - CF 178/274/309

I know people would say "Uribe brings defense" and he does. But the difference between his defense and Tejada's defense is minimal. Also, with that much more pop in the lineup it becomes even easier to keep Anderson in the lineup, giving us the Gold Glove caliber defense he brings in CF. You can play Anderson, letting him know his bat isn't important if he brings the glove, and not have to worry about "do we put in Mackowiak to get some extra offense."

I'd give them any 3-4 prospects except McCarthy for Tejada. And I might even give Brandon if they eat some of the salary.

They're going to want Brandon, Fields and maybe 1-2 more prospects. Sorry, I understand he brings a lot of offense to the table and is all but equal to Uribe in defensive skills. But he warrants too much just to get him, not to mention the fact that his salary is not something I want to add to the payroll. Sorry, I just see this as a high price rental.

Ol' No. 2
06-23-2006, 01:51 PM
The Baltimore Sun says:



I'd love to get Tejada, but I doubt they would go for a package of prospects.The O's have the second-worst pitching in the AL. Their team ERA is 5.24.:anon: Guess what they're going to want?

SoxSpeed22
06-23-2006, 01:58 PM
Tejada for McCarthy may be considered.
Also, JJav clear your PM space.

Jjav829
06-23-2006, 01:59 PM
The O's have the second-worst pitching in the AL. Their team ERA is 5.24.:anon: Guess what they're going to want?
I know, but my point is that they want major league players, not prospects. They're not going to jump for a package with guys like Broadway and even McCarthy probably wouldn't be enough of a major league talent (as the centerpiece of a deal, not just McCarthy alone) for them to trade Tejada. They're going to want an established pitcher, and since we can't/won't trade any of our established pitchers during the season, a deal for Tejada is unlikely.

spiffie
06-23-2006, 02:00 PM
They're going to want Brandon, Fields and maybe 1-2 more prospects. Sorry, I understand he brings a lot of offense to the table and is all but equal to Uribe in defensive skills. But he warrants too much just to get him, not to mention the fact that his salary is not something I want to add to the payroll. Sorry, I just see this as a high price rental.
I have no problem paying that price. As awesome as all those guys look like they might be, they have proven nothing at the MLB level except for Brandon who has shown flashes. There's always someone else coming up ready to be the Next Big Thing in the minors. And considering how many prospects fizzle out it wouldn't be a surprise if all the guys combined in some package we design turned out to have less of a career than Tejada by himself.

As for the payroll...the World Series brings in a lot of extra revenue :cool: . Plus the payroll move would not be that much. Even assuming we move no salary as part of the deal (which I doubt would happen, as Uribe would become expendable) we would be on the hook for about half of Tejada's 2006 deal which is 10 million, so we would owe about 5 million. In 2007 he would be owed 12 million. If you can move Uribe you clear him which in 2006 would mean around 1.5 million, so the total cost for 2006 would be 3.5 million. If you assume Juan would be here next year he would be owed 4.15 million, so that would be a 9 million payroll move. So adding basically 12 million over 2 years for one of the 2 best shortstops in the game, who is locked into a deal through 2009. That sounds relatively solid to me.

Or we could just trade Garland for Tejada.

spiffie
06-23-2006, 02:03 PM
I know, but my point is that they want major league players, not prospects. They're not going to jump for a package with guys like Broadway and even McCarthy probably wouldn't be enough of a major league talent (as the centerpiece of a deal, not just McCarthy alone) for them to trade Tejada. They're going to want an established pitcher, and since we can't/won't trade any of our established pitchers during the season, a deal for Tejada is unlikely.
What about a 3-way deal? Flip some of our prospects to a team looking to dump a pitcher, and ship that to Baltimore for Tejada? I can see that possibly moving the cost in players up more than we might be able to handle, but it's at least a possible way to deal with that problem.

Jjav829
06-23-2006, 02:03 PM
Tejada for McCarthy may be considered.
Also, JJav clear your PM space.
Done. Ma-gaga keeps filling it up with messages swearing at me because Morneau is helping me beat him in the H2H league this week. :redneck

LuvSox
06-23-2006, 04:30 PM
We don't need Tejada to win this year. Down the road we may need Brandon and Fields to win.

Banix12
06-23-2006, 04:35 PM
Tejada certainly would be nice but I just can't see it as necessary. Aren't the sox already at or near the top of the league in runs scored?

samram
06-23-2006, 04:40 PM
What about a 3-way deal? Flip some of our prospects to a team looking to dump a pitcher, and ship that to Baltimore for Tejada? I can see that possibly moving the cost in players up more than we might be able to handle, but it's at least a possible way to deal with that problem.
The problem is the type of pitcher someone may want to dump isn't going to be of interest to Baltimore except perhaps Zito or Willis (who will hardly be dumped). The O's won't want a guy like Smoltz or Weaver or Westbrook (who I have to think will be shopped when the Tribe realizes it ain't happening). Those guys will be attractive to contenders only.

getonbckthr
06-23-2006, 04:51 PM
They won't want Fields because they just signed Mora long term. I'm saying it would take BMAC, Uribe, Sweeney and Haegar.

Frater Perdurabo
06-23-2006, 05:28 PM
Given his salary and what it would cost in terms of prospects (whether to ship directly to the Orioles or to a third team to get young pitching to send to Baltimore), I'm not in favor of exploring the possiblities of acquiring Tejada. JMHO

spiffie
06-23-2006, 05:30 PM
The problem is the type of pitcher someone may want to dump isn't going to be of interest to Baltimore except perhaps Zito or Willis (who will hardly be dumped). The O's won't want a guy like Smoltz or Weaver or Westbrook (who I have to think will be shopped when the Tribe realizes it ain't happening). Those guys will be attractive to contenders only.
Rumor is the Nats might be looking to dump Livan Hernandez.

samram
06-23-2006, 05:31 PM
Rumor is the Nats might be looking to dump Livan Hernandez.

Ok, but I don't see why the O's would want him.