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salty99
06-22-2006, 04:51 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet or in the right place


http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20060622&content_id=1518343&vkey=pr_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

DickAllen72
06-22-2006, 04:59 PM
**** sensitivity training.

slobes
06-22-2006, 05:00 PM
Sensitivity training? Are you kidding me?

SouthSide_HitMen
06-22-2006, 05:01 PM
**** sensitivity training.

Agreed.

I rather have any fine come from the White Sox but perhaps they declined. If this puts this issue to bed so be it.

Back to White Sox baseball. :cool:

ElevenUp
06-22-2006, 05:02 PM
Pretty much what I expected. Thankfully he did not get any further suspension.

Jjav829
06-22-2006, 05:05 PM
Sensitivity training? Are you kidding me?
Oh that'll be priceless. Ozzie in sensitivity training. I wish I could be there.

Who is it with? Is it like a 1-on-1 with Bud where Bud teaches Ozzie to be more sensitive? Os is this like a training class that Ozzie has to take? I can just picture Ozzie being the guy who walks in 25 minutes after class has started without anything but his newspaper and a pen, then proceeds to do the Sodoku while the class is going on. :D:

:ozzie
"Oh ****, I thought I had all the 7's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't call people "****." Wait, the 6 doesn't go in that box? ****."

russ99
06-22-2006, 05:07 PM
Selig, you're an idiot. This should have been handled in-house.

Typical Bud, bowing to media pressure. Mariotti can't deserve the satisfaction from this B.S. :angry:

StockdaleForVeep
06-22-2006, 05:09 PM
**** sensitivity training.

http://dailyablution.blogs.com/photos/blogpictures/camp1.gif

Lip Man 1
06-22-2006, 05:09 PM
I find Proud To Be Your Bud Selig and Jay Mariotti offensive. Perhaps they should be required to go to classes on how to be an actual commissioner and an actual journalist.

Lip

StockdaleForVeep
06-22-2006, 05:18 PM
I find Proud To Be Your Bud Selig and Jay Mariotti offensive. Perhaps they should be required to go to classes on how to be an actual commissioner and an actual journalist.

Lip

It'll be interesting how the "journalist" covers this issue now, maybe he will be a "champion" for fighting against ozzie and his insensitivity, mariotti made first cut and ozzie is the first topic

WSox8404
06-22-2006, 05:19 PM
It'll be interesting how the "journalist" covers this issue now, maybe he will be a "champion" for fighting against ozzie and his insensitivity, mariotti made first cut and ozzie is the first topic


You can count on that.

spawn
06-22-2006, 05:19 PM
And the Moron was advocating a 2-week suspension...:rolling:

QCIASOXFAN
06-22-2006, 05:20 PM
Can you see Ozzie going through sensitivity training!:rolling:

sullythered
06-22-2006, 05:21 PM
I would pay good money to see Ozzie actually in the sensitivity training. Whatever, I'm just happy there isn't a suspension attached. It shouldn't really effect the team.

WSox8404
06-22-2006, 05:21 PM
And the Moron was advocating a 2-week suspension...:rolling:

**** him. Piece of ****. I wish I would run into him one day while walking down the street. I would never impart any violence on him but man would he get an earful. And I bet the little bastard is like 5 foot 5 also. Real tough guy when he isn't around anyone.

itsnotrequired
06-22-2006, 05:24 PM
And which "nancy's" are you referring to? Those of us that thought his remarks were insensitive? I'm very interested in knowing who the "nancy's" are.

People actually named Nancy?

:tongue:

Shakey Bonez
06-22-2006, 05:24 PM
And which "nancy's" are you referring to? Those of us that thought his remarks were insensitive? I'm very interested in knowing who the "nancy's" are.

...I think he's wondering what Nancy Foust's opinion is...

WSox8404
06-22-2006, 05:25 PM
People actually named Nancy?

:tongue:

Yeah you tell that Nancy Faust to keep her fat mouth shut will ya!

spawn
06-22-2006, 05:26 PM
**** him. Piece of ****. I wish I would run into him one day while walking down the street. I would never impart any violence on him but man would he get an earful. And I bet the little bastard is like 5 foot 5 also. Real tough guy when he isn't around anyone.
Why? So he can spout off about how ignorant White Sox fans are? As has been mentioned ad nauseum...the best way to deal with the Mariotti's of the world is to ignore them. He's not worth the aggravation, a lesson I'm hoping Ozzie has learned.

Chicken Dinner
06-22-2006, 05:27 PM
I sure am glad the commisioner had time to peel himself away from all the pressing open issues that face baseball and kiss Marioitti's ass. *****

WSox8404
06-22-2006, 05:27 PM
I sure am glad the commisioner had time to peel himself away from all the pressing open issues that face baseball and kiss Marioitti's ass. *****

Yeah really. Hey Bud how is that steroid thing going for ya?

spawn
06-22-2006, 05:28 PM
People actually named Nancy?

:tongue:

Yeah you tell that Nancy Faust to keep her fat mouth shut will ya!
:roflmao:

spiffie
06-22-2006, 05:32 PM
I have no problem with this. The organization let MLB handle it, and considering the relationship with Reinsdorf and Selig had Jerry wanted to keep it in-house they probably could have. To me this is JR's way of saying "you went too far with this one, we're not going to cover for you. Take the punishment and we can all move on."

For all the folks whining and bitching about this being some sort of thought police thing all I can say is MLB, much like WSI, does not have any obligation to allow people in it unfettered free speech. You don't want to play by their rules you can go somewhere else, be it the Venezuelan Baseball League of the MLB.com forums.

Hopefully sensitivity training will just consist of Ozzie being given a list of what words are not cool to use against the Moron.

DoubleO
06-22-2006, 05:35 PM
Ozzie Guillen in a sensitivity class is like Dennis Leary in the show Resuce Me's sensitivity class that aired last season.

viagracat
06-22-2006, 05:54 PM
What Ozzie said was dumb and insensitive. He ****ed up, period. He knows it, and he apologized. Maybe "sensitivity training" is a joke, but it's no big deal. As far as I know, no one really thinks he's a homophobe or has any problem with gay people. He let a clown like Mariotti get the best of him. But it's over.

Let's move on. Please! :o:

TheDarkGundam
06-22-2006, 05:57 PM
Ozzie Guillen in a sensitivity class is like Dennis Leary in the show Resuce Me's sensitivity class that aired last season.
CURSE YOU! I was gonna make that reference! That's one of the all-time best scenes from last season.

Anyway, what comments did Ozzie make? Did I miss something?

TornLabrum
06-22-2006, 06:07 PM
In my first post on the subject (about 4000 posts back in the thread on the WTS board), I said 5 days fine (actual fine undisclosed) and sensitivity training. Looks like Budlight is a lurker here. :D:

Baby Fisk
06-22-2006, 06:14 PM
Sensitivity training? No.

Media training? HELL YES!

All of Ozzie's "foot in mouth" eruptions could have been prevented by having someone sit down with him and explain how to think first and act appropriately when the cameras are rolling.

Cheryl
06-22-2006, 06:16 PM
Can you see Ozzie going through sensitivity training!:rolling:

Maybe there will be a tape. One can hope, anyway.

SBSoxFan
06-22-2006, 06:29 PM
I have no problem with this. The organization let MLB handle it, and considering the relationship with Reinsdorf and Selig had Jerry wanted to keep it in-house they probably could have. To me this is JR's way of saying "you went too far with this one, we're not going to cover for you. Take the punishment and we can all move on."

For all the folks whining and bitching about this being some sort of thought police thing all I can say is MLB, much like WSI, does not have any obligation to allow people in it unfettered free speech. You don't want to play by their rules you can go somewhere else, be it the Venezuelan Baseball League of the MLB.com forums.

Hopefully sensitivity training will just consist of Ozzie being given a list of what words are not cool to use against the Moron.

If only the sun-times had similar rules! That Mori-whatever gets to play the victim in all this is a joke. Thankfully, the sports columnist in my local paper saw through that one: "... if Piven's remark passes for inspiration [as Moron suggested], any outrage Guillen stirred in Mariotti rings hollow and hypocritical.

He figured calling Cubs players a name with more or less the same intended meaning would be just the tonic they needed. Members of the esteemed press corps, on the other hand, deserve only the most respectful of epithets directed at them."

What else bothers me about this:

1) Moron gets to continue working, slandering, libeling, and insulting people under the guise of being a "columnist."

2) When a baseball player is, for example, driving under the influence, 60 mph over the speed limit, an action that can actually kill people, why isn't he suspended/fined and ordered to attend AA meetings?

Missing some perspective here?

JB98
06-22-2006, 06:31 PM
I find Proud To Be Your Bud Selig and Jay Mariotti offensive. Perhaps they should be required to go to classes on how to be an actual commissioner and an actual journalist.

Lip

As a practicing journalist myself, I find Jay Mariotti's mere existence to be offensive. I agree with you, Lip. Send Mariotti's sorry ass back to school.

What a farce. MLB bows to media pressure again.

Palehose13
06-22-2006, 06:34 PM
2) When a baseball player is, for example, driving under the influence, 60 mph over the speed limit, an action that can actually kill people, why isn't he suspended/fined and ordered to attend AA meetings?

Missing some perspective here?

You are absolutely right. I don't know if you think this is an either/or because, IMO, both are wrong. Ozzie should have some repercussions and so should any athlete busted driving under the influence.

Scottiehaswheels
06-22-2006, 06:50 PM
Ok i'm gonna catch some grief on this one but could part of Ozzie's sensitivity training be being put on that Queer Eye for the Straight Guy show like the Red Sox players back like 2 years ago? Is that show even on the air anymore?

TDog
06-22-2006, 06:52 PM
Mike Royko would have handled things himself. But even though Mike Royko was tough on people, he always commanded enough respect that he wouldn't have been involved with something like this.

Edit: Considering the conflicts going on between the Sox and the columnist, the Sun-Times should restrict him from writing about the White Sox. It isn't like he has anything worthwhile to write anyway.

SBSoxFan
06-22-2006, 06:59 PM
You are absolutely right. I don't know if you think this is an either/or because, IMO, both are wrong. Ozzie should have some repercussions and so should any athlete busted driving under the influence.
Yes, I agree Ozzie should deal with the consequences. In the big picture though, his behavior was far less deleterious than Loaiza's. Here's what Selig said regarding Guillen: "Baseball is a social institution with responsibility to set appropriate tone and example. Conduct or language that reflects otherwise will not be tolerated." So why is driving while intoxicated or doing drugs tolerated? It's just not equitable, but where do you draw the line?

I don't want to offend any union folks out there, but I think part of the reason is that it's harder to discipline the players (John Rocker notwithstanding I guess) then managers and coaches. This is for the sole reason that unions act in the perceived best interest of its members regardless of the impact to greater society. Bottom line, baseball is a union shop.

vegyrex
06-22-2006, 07:16 PM
This seems more than satisfactory to me.

Lets get back to baseball!!


Ozzie before "sensitivity" training: :angry:

Ozzie after "sensitivity" training: :hug:

MarySwiss
06-22-2006, 07:16 PM
Mike Royko would have handled things himself. But even though Mike Royko was tough on people, he always commanded enough respect that he wouldn't have been involved with something like this.

Edit: Considering the conflicts going on between the Sox and the columnist, the Sun-Times should restrict him from writing about the White Sox. It isn't like he has anything worthwhile to write anyway.

You know what? This is a very good point. There's no way he can claim to be objective under the circumstances (not that he has ever been objective).

Probably won't happen, though.

daveeym
06-22-2006, 07:21 PM
I don't want to offend any union folks out there, but I think part of the reason is that it's harder to discipline the players (John Rocker notwithstanding I guess) then managers and coaches. This is for the sole reason that unions act in the perceived best interest of its members regardless of the impact to greater society. Bottom line, baseball is a union shop.Definitely. Coaches can't appeal fines or suspensions. Big reason they can react quickly on ozzie and coaches in general.

Tokes
06-22-2006, 07:47 PM
I would liek to know where he is going for the sensitivity training cause I would go just to see how he reacts to that ****.

RadioheadRocks
06-22-2006, 07:50 PM
Ok i'm gonna catch some grief on this one but could part of Ozzie's sensitivity training be being put on that Queer Eye for the Straight Guy show like the Red Sox players back like 2 years ago? Is that show even on the air anymore?


Not sure, but that episode is available on DVD.

TDog
06-22-2006, 08:05 PM
You know what? This is a very good point. There's no way he can claim to be objective under the circumstances (not that he has ever been objective).

Probably won't happen, though.

As a columnist, he isn't supposed to be objective. His job is to provide a perspective that enlightens or entertains. Certainly, the Sun-Time wouldn't and shouldn't remove someone from a beat because the people on the beat don't like what he is writing. But his editors have to question the value of his columns on the White Sox.

I could write a better column. I could probably type faster with boxing glove on. I'm sure some people wouldn't like my column, but I wouldn't inspire the sort of hatred that Mariotti does. I was called a "lousy excuse for a human being." But that was by a child molester who eventually died in prison.

soxfanatlanta
06-22-2006, 08:05 PM
Edit: Considering the conflicts going on between the Sox and the columnist, the Sun-Times should restrict him from writing about the White Sox. It isn't like he has anything worthwhile to write anyway.

Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't "He Who Will Not Be Named" write editorials? If so, then objectivity goes out the door.

TL: You working for the league now? Sweet - can you make the DH rule mandatory for both leagues? Thx. :tongue:

WhiteSox1983
06-22-2006, 08:17 PM
Hey selig, how about instead of being so concerned with slurs, that you become aware that your whole league was a phony, fake and a sham for over a decade! :angry:

BarbG
06-22-2006, 09:12 PM
I find Proud To Be Your Bud Selig and Jay Mariotti offensive. Perhaps they should be required to go to classes on how to be an actual commissioner and an actual journalist.

Lip
I agree. VERY well said.

jenn2080
06-22-2006, 10:10 PM
holy **** that is great. Ozzie in sensitivity training! HA! Id pay to see that

Iguana775
06-22-2006, 10:48 PM
**** sensitivity training.

I wonder if Jack Nicholson will be his instructor...

http://urbanlegend.f2o.org/movies/images/anger_management2.jpg

ChetChat
06-22-2006, 10:54 PM
Mariotti (or however the **** you spell that *******'s name).
**** him.
The worst part about all this is free PR for that ass wipe.

Andy T Clown
06-22-2006, 10:58 PM
I stopped reading the Moron when he was ripping Ditka and the Bears were still good. It is pretty easy to rip on guys like Ditka and Ozzie because they wear their emotions on their sleeve. I subscribe to the Tribune because of him. If I am contributing to the continued mediocraty of the cubs in some small way.....so be it.

TornLabrum
06-22-2006, 11:02 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't "He Who Will Not Be Named" write editorials? If so, then objectivity goes out the door.

TL: You working for the league now? Sweet - can you make the DH rule mandatory for both leagues? Thx. :tongue:

Nope, I'm just an outside consutant. :D:

samram
06-22-2006, 11:06 PM
I don't want to offend any union folks out there, but I think part of the reason is that it's harder to discipline the players (John Rocker notwithstanding I guess) then managers and coaches. This is for the sole reason that unions act in the perceived best interest of its members regardless of the impact to greater society. Bottom line, baseball is a union shop.

Part of the reason? It is the reason.

samram
06-22-2006, 11:08 PM
And the Moron was advocating a 2-week suspension...:rolling:

That's because that dumbass is missing the point by thinking he's the victim here, which I don't think he is.

Brewski
06-23-2006, 12:37 AM
That's because that dumbass is missing the point by thinking he's the victim here, which I don't think he is.

I wonder what kind of sensitivity training Jay the Victim had 10 years or so ago when he had a forenoon weekday show on One-On-One Sports and took the opportunity one day to make fun of the unusually large lips of the "local Fox news anchor." (He was refering to the beautiful and talented, then and now, Robin Robinson.) I wouldn't expect that from a sensitive guy like Jay the Victim.

Deuce
06-23-2006, 02:01 AM
Here is all that I am hoping for...

Ozzie before Sensitivity Training:

:ozzie

"What a piece of **** he is, ****ing ***!"

Ozzie after Sensitivity Training:

:ozzie

"What a piece of **** he is, that mother****ing, *******, prick of a bastard!"

chisoxmike
06-23-2006, 02:30 AM
What bull****.

***s

Jimmy John
06-23-2006, 02:54 AM
got this from the whitesox.com board...proves just how much of an idiot mariotti is.

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2005/10/jay_mariottis_y.html

Xx i am error xX
06-23-2006, 03:15 AM
Maybe there will be a tape. One can hope, anyway.

We should all email A&E and convince then to release a DVD boxed set of it. I know I'd buy it! I'm sure Mariotti would too.

Railsplitter
06-23-2006, 12:15 PM
Just goes what the kind of a fake Moronotti is. If he was told he couldn't write for two weeks becuase he offended somebody, he'd scream his constitutional rights were being violated.

WizardsofOzzie
06-23-2006, 12:24 PM
They should put Ozzie in sensitivity training on pay per view. It would take in more revenue than a Tyson-Holyfield fight back in the day

SoxWillWin
06-23-2006, 01:20 PM
What kind of world is it when Ozzie Insults one man (who deserves it) and gets thrown under numerous buses, but a group of idiots calling themselves a "church" can show up at funerals of dead soldiers holding signs that say far worse then what Ozzie said and get away with it.

They say "He's not setting a good example for the kids". Well I don't know about the rest of you, but I never repeated an insult or slur because I heard it from a celebrity. All the slurs and insults I've learned came from either my Father or my friends in high school.

Ozzie is not the problem.

flo-B-flo
06-23-2006, 01:31 PM
I wonder what kind of sensitivity training Jay the Victim had 10 years or so ago when he had a forenoon weekday show on One-On-One Sports and took the opportunity one day to make fun of the unusually large lips of the "local Fox news anchor." (He was refering to the beautiful and talented, then and now, Robin Robinson.) I wouldn't expect that from a sensitive guy like Jay the Victim. I remember this. A couple of days before calling Oz names for calling Grimsley a rat, HE called Grimsley a rat. He's now acting like, it's not about me but look at me. Ozzie, The Hawk, and anyone else should make it a point to NOT mention this pud ANYMORE. **** Marimoron. Ozzie was wrong and now the human hocker gets lots of publicity.

AJTrenkle
06-23-2006, 04:00 PM
I wish Guillen had not used the word but this makes a mockery of any serious criticism about people using the term in general.

StepsInSC
06-23-2006, 04:08 PM
What kind of world is it when Ozzie Insults one man (who deserves it) and gets thrown under numerous buses, but a group of idiots calling themselves a "church" can show up at funerals of dead soldiers holding signs that say far worse then what Ozzie said and get away with it.

Well, it's not a criminal proceeding or anything. It's his employer disciplining him. If the employer of one of the "funeral-protestors" knew of their actions, and the protestor was in the public eye, then they could be disciplined them for that I would imagine.

He just should have chosen a different word. Hopefully everyone will move on quickly.

BadgerChisox
06-23-2006, 04:09 PM
Sensitity training, Come on now. Time for Dr. Phil for Ozwald

getonbckthr
06-23-2006, 04:24 PM
If Ozzie got fined for what he said, what about Rick Majerus in this video:
http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2727.html

chidonez
06-23-2006, 05:30 PM
The guys on SCR just called a guy Liberace. Hmm, so calling a guy a *** is bad (I agree), but comparing a guy to an obviously gay man is not?

Please...