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rdwj
06-21-2006, 07:33 AM
We all know the suspension is coming. How many games do you think he gets?

Dan Mega
06-21-2006, 07:41 AM
He's a relief pitcher, so probably not as much as a starter would get IMO. 3 games seems fair.

stl_sox_fan
06-21-2006, 07:41 AM
I'm voting for none. The Cards announcers were saying Riske did his job by hitting Duncan near his rump instead of hitting him in his dome.
If Ozzie did send him out intentionally(wink, wink) to hit Duncan he had to know a suspension might be the result. In that case I wish he would've sent a scrub like Montero out to do it. Losing him for a game or two doesn't bother me. Plus Riske in the ninth probably would not have allowed 4 runs. If they suspend anyone, it should be the umps for once again not handling the situation at the moment and forcing Ozzie's hand.
At lease if Riske does get suspended, he won't have to serve it until August.
Love that MLB appeals process.

blacksburgsoxfan
06-21-2006, 07:57 AM
i'm guessing riske gets at least one, maybe a few.

my question is how many games will ozzie get?

Thome25
06-21-2006, 08:06 AM
I don't think it's fair but I'm thinking Ozzie and Riske will get just as many games as Johnson and Torre.

To me it doesn't make any difference if Riske is a relief pitcher or not. He's a pitcher and he threw at someone so he'll probably pay the same price as Johnson.

I hope by some miracle that Ozzie and Riske don't get suspended at all. And, might I add, it's good to finally see one of our pitchers plunks someone. It's about time we stop taking this stuff from other teams.(I know it's debatable if Ponson was intentional or not because the bases were loaded.) But, just to get rid of any doubt at all, we need this team to have each other's backs so it's good to see someone finally get hit back.

EastCoastSoxFan
06-21-2006, 08:59 AM
To me it doesn't make any difference if Riske is a relief pitcher or not. He's a pitcher and he threw at someone so he'll probably pay the same price as Johnson.It does make a difference that Riske is a relief pitcher. For a starting pitcher, a 5-game suspension is the equivalent of a 1-game suspension since they only pitch every fifth game.
Riske will probably get one game.

mcfish
06-21-2006, 09:05 AM
If Ozzie did send him out intentionally(wink, wink) to hit Duncan he had to know a suspension might be the result. In that case I wish he would've sent a scrub like Montero out to do it. Losing him for a game or two doesn't bother me. Plus Riske in the ninth probably would not have allowed 4 runs. If they suspend anyone, it should be the umps for once again not handling the situation at the moment and forcing Ozzie's hand.
At lease if Riske does get suspended, he won't have to serve it until August.
Love that MLB appeals process.This is exactly what everyone complained about last week when Ozzie sent out Sean Tracey. So at least you can now see Ozzie's logic from last week.

kevin57
06-21-2006, 09:30 AM
I don't see him getting more than 2 games. He's a reliever and not a starter, so the "five game suspension to miss one start" strategy wouldn't apply. I would also like to believe that MLB would see that the Sox have been target practice of late and needed to establish some boundaries. (I know that assumes MLB actually thinks these things through.)

champagne030
06-21-2006, 10:03 AM
It does make a difference that Riske is a relief pitcher. For a starting pitcher, a 5-game suspension is the equivalent of a 1-game suspension since they only pitch every fifth game.
Riske will probably get one game.

4+ because of Texas and Riske's history........

"Riske is likely to be suspended. With Cleveland last year, Riske served a four-game suspension for hitting a batter."

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/whitesox.asp

pssondacubs
06-21-2006, 10:44 AM
3 games seems fair.

Shouldn't this be in teal?

Sxy Mofo
06-21-2006, 11:25 AM
I don't see him getting more than 2 games. He's a reliever and not a starter, so the "five game suspension to miss one start" strategy wouldn't apply. I would also like to believe that MLB would see that the Sox have been target practice of late and needed to establish some boundaries. (I know that assumes MLB actually thinks these things through.)
I don't know how many of you read espn or the daily quickie, but this sums up exactly what i'm saying about the incident:

But the situation was a great example of where baseball's muddled brand of vigilante justice falls apart.

Both teams were warned by the umps after Sidney Ponson hit TWO White Sox players (with the bases loaded, no less) in the inning before.

But if MLB is going to allow the team effectively "throwing the first punch" to get away with it -- while punishing the team that stands up to defend itself -- the entire system will fall apart.

I'm no fan of MLB's unwritten rules of retribution (wasn't Chicago's 20-6 beating enough payback?), but as long as MLB is going to allow it to happen on one side, it can't hold the other side to a HIGHER standard.

Sxy Mofo
06-21-2006, 11:26 AM
It's like me, walking up to a guy, punching him in the face and when he defends himself, he gets punished, yet I, the starter have no reprecussions. It's ridiculous.

DachnoPiitu
06-21-2006, 11:32 AM
I am sure this has been discussed in another thread...

How can you warn both teams when one team is at fault?

Moreover, being hit by a pitch is a part of the game. The announcers, the fans and the team are aware that it is a necessary part of the game! How is it that the umpires think it is unimportant? Your job is not to avoid fighting but to call balls, strikes, etc. What if the ump said "no more walks" cause there were too many walks?... oh wait...:rolleyes:

Shouldn't the ump be suspended for making bad calls?:redneck

Sxy Mofo
06-21-2006, 11:37 AM
I am sure this has been discussed in another thread...



I'm sure it has, but i was too lazy to look. This looks as good a place as any.

Plus i'd rather deal with a little ribbing from WSI guys than actually get off my ass and do some work.

viagracat
06-21-2006, 01:34 PM
Probably two. Baseball has to so SOMETHING about those out-of-control White Sox!

Xx i am error xX
06-21-2006, 02:06 PM
How can you warn both teams when one team is at fault?

It seems to me that warning only one bench, especially in light of what has been happening to the Sox lately, would be almost like inviting them to retaliate without repercussion. However idiotic they may be, it seems like Umps may be trying to cut down on situations like these. Unfortunately for them we have a manager who doesn't care about serving suspensions, and players who (finally) have each other's backs.

D. TODD
06-21-2006, 02:18 PM
I don't like the way the rule is enforced, but after the warnings are given and you plunk a guy anyway you get suspended. Oz 1 game, Riske at least 3 and maybe up to 5.

34 Inch Stick
06-21-2006, 03:13 PM
3 reduced to 1 on appeal

digdagdug23
06-21-2006, 03:58 PM
Is it just me, or did anyone else laugh hysterically when he hit him in the hind quarters...........I was literally in tears, as was the rest of the family, I can't even tell you how many times we hit the replay button. Just me, okay then.

I can't beleive what a joke this is. MLB can't have it both ways, you want an old school feel to everything, but you want to be new and refreshing. Make up your mind, fire Selig, and just let the boys play for sobbing out loud.

fuzzy_patters
06-21-2006, 04:25 PM
He shouldn't get any. If punching someone in the face only warrants ten games, then hitting a batter on the rump should not get you any suspension. It's part of the game, although I don't think the "commisioner's" office cares.

(I put "commisioner" in quotes because Bud is not much of a commisioner.)

wassagstdu
06-21-2006, 05:49 PM
Riske gets 5 games. Ponson gets zero, of course. Seems fair to me ...

How about this: When a pitcher hits a batter under "suspicious" circumstances HE, and only he should be warned. If he hits a second batter, he is gone -- and automatically suspended -- and both teams are warned. If a particular pitcher gets warned often he can be suspended even if he is not tossed from any particular game.

DickAllen72
06-21-2006, 05:55 PM
Every time a pitcher hits a batter, the pitcher should have to bat the next time the DH spot comes up in the order.

MRM
06-21-2006, 06:19 PM
i'm guessing riske gets at least one, maybe a few.

my question is how many games will ozzie get?

Riske gets 5 games, Ozzie two. They can't hold last week against him because he wasn't sanctioned for that.

Of bigger concern is the Marriotti thing. Baseball "could" take umbrage at Ozzie calling that jerk a "******" and tack on a few games. Never mind that Mariotti has never stepped foot in the Sox locker room or that he intentionally trys to push Ozzies buttons with every article. Ozzie is not politically correct in an extremely politically correct sport. For what it's worth, I like ozzies approach much better and hope Mariotti chocks on his pen one day soon.

BTW. Ozzies definition of "******" is the same as mine. It's not a derogatory term for homosexuals but, rather, to describe a man with no balls. One who will talk about you behind your back but never come face to face with you.

Hitmen77
06-21-2006, 06:41 PM
The current policy is total BS. It protects offending teams and punishes teams just trying to defend themselves. Under this policy, why doesn't every team just plunk the Sox twice each series? If you were Phil Garner and KNEW you would get away with it, wouldn't you do it? The Sox options are then as follows:

- do nothing and let every other team know that they have free reign to hit our batters

- take a measured retaliation of one hit batsmen to "send a message" and face ejections suspensions for our pitchers and managers.

Meanwhile, the Padillas, Esobars, and Ponsons get off scot free with not even an ejection.

HELLO? Mr. Selig, Mr. Watson??? How is this anywhere close to fair? Could your heads be any further up your asses?:angry: