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Brian26
06-20-2006, 11:58 PM
I have to clean this up tomorrow with the official box score, but this is what it looks like right now. This was a historic night. Salty99 and Chetchat have already seen this. I'll post this, then I need to get to bed...

(note- I tried to use some white-out on two places to clean up a mistake).

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/brian2653/DSCN0934.jpg

ilsox7
06-20-2006, 11:58 PM
How many pens did you go through?

mantis1212
06-20-2006, 11:59 PM
Looks like my opponents scorecard in softball last night!

Brian26
06-21-2006, 12:01 AM
How many pens did you go through?

I'll need a new one after tonight. LaRussa did us no favors either. The Cards side is a mess too with all of his insane changes (Molina at first, Spiezio from 1st to 3rd, Duncan for Rolen, from 3rd to left.....)

salty99
06-21-2006, 12:03 AM
You forgot to white out the crazy batting order change of Uribe and Crede flip flopping....:cool:

TheDarkGundam
06-21-2006, 12:03 AM
My Dad was keeping score at the game tonight. I think he gave up after a while, it being to crazy.

whitesoxwilkes
06-21-2006, 12:07 AM
Ha ha ha...much neater than mine (as usual). Note hasty renumbering of innings.

Also note where I assumed Crede was batting ahead of Uribe as I took my precursory peek at the scoreboard.

http://static.flickr.com/56/171782061_e7926844cf_o.jpg

CubsfansareDRUNK
06-21-2006, 12:16 AM
where do you guys get those nice scorecards?

ilsox7
06-21-2006, 12:19 AM
There's something about a baseball scorecard that is just so...nice? It's a different language that tells a great story (well great on nights like tonight!).

whitesoxwilkes
06-21-2006, 12:20 AM
where do you guys get those nice scorecards?

Right here. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000BYT7Z/qid=1150867207/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6545843-3767803?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=3375251)

Endorsed by TornLabrum, Brian26 and ChiSoxGirl.

itsnotrequired
06-21-2006, 12:20 AM
There's something about a baseball scorecard that is just so...nice? It's a different language that tells a great story (well great on nights like tonight!).

Look for my scorecard tomorrow..

itsnotrequired
06-21-2006, 12:22 AM
Right here. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000BYT7Z/qid=1150867207/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6545843-3767803?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=3375251)

Endorsed by TornLabrum, Brian26 and ChiSoxGirl.

You guys are clowning it.

http://dcortesi.home.mindspring.com/scoring/

ilsox7
06-21-2006, 12:23 AM
I may have to go back to keeping score at games. I haven't done so in AGES, but I am getting the itch.

CubsfansareDRUNK
06-21-2006, 12:28 AM
Sweet, thanks Wilkes

Brian26
06-21-2006, 12:28 AM
There's something about a baseball scorecard that is just so...nice? It's a different language that tells a great story (well great on nights like tonight!).

The beauty of it is that there's no set method or wrong way to keep score. Wilkes calls a flyout to Anderson "8", I call it F-8. Other people might use FO-8.

Brian26
06-21-2006, 12:30 AM
You guys are clowning it.

http://dcortesi.home.mindspring.com/scoring/

Never seen that before. Looking forward to seeing yours tomorrow (today now).

ilsox7
06-21-2006, 12:30 AM
The beauty of it is that there's no set method or wrong way to keep score. Wilkes calls a flyout to Anderson "8", I call it F-8. Other people might use FO-8.

Don't even ask how itsnotrequired scores it! His system is quite cool b/c it gives you a higher level of detail as to how an AB actually turned out. I am old school with my scorecard and abide by F-8.

Brian26
06-21-2006, 12:31 AM
Right here. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000BYT7Z/qid=1150867207/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6545843-3767803?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=3375251)

Endorsed by TornLabrum, Brian26 and ChiSoxGirl.

My only complaint about the Scoremasters is that they need one or two more lines on the visiting team's page for relief pitchers.

Brian26
06-21-2006, 12:32 AM
Don't even ask how itsnotrequired scores it! His system is quite cool b/c it gives you a higher level of detail as to how an AB actually turned out. I am old school with my scorecard and abide by F-8.

Does this actually involve tracking pitches too? I'm looking forward to seeing it.

TornLabrum
06-21-2006, 12:33 AM
Right here. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000BYT7Z/qid=1150867207/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6545843-3767803?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=3375251)

Endorsed by TornLabrum, Brian26 and ChiSoxGirl.

And AFAIK, I was the first person on WSI to use it.

ViPeRx007
06-21-2006, 12:33 AM
I have to clean this up tomorrow with the official box score, but this is what it looks like right now. This was a historic night. Salty99 and Chetchat have already seen this. I'll post this, then I need to get to bed...

(note- I tried to use some white-out on two places to clean up a mistake).

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/brian2653/DSCN0934.jpg

You have lovely handwriting...

lol.

Really though, nice job man. I wouldn't have even known where to start.

TornLabrum
06-21-2006, 12:36 AM
Man, you guys are wusses. I keep balls and strikes, so I know that for at least 4 consecutive AB in the 9th inning (I'm going from memory because I left the book out in the car to keep it out of the rain) Mercury Montero had 1-2 counts on the batters and gave up a single each time.

ilsox7
06-21-2006, 12:36 AM
Does this actually involve tracking pitches too? I'm looking forward to seeing it.

IIRC, it keeps track of pitches and also how deep or shallow fly balls are hit. I haven't studied it in depth, but it was intriguing.

HotelWhiteSox
06-21-2006, 01:06 AM
I looove historic scorecards

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4881/mikesdigicampicturescanona5105.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mikesdigicampicturescanona5105.jpg)

kingpin_rcs
06-21-2006, 01:39 AM
I have kept score a few times. I am not familiar with some of the notation. What is the difference between "K" and the backward "K". Is it swinging vs. looking?

HotelWhiteSox
06-21-2006, 01:41 AM
I have kept score a few times. I am not familiar with some of the notation. What is the difference between "K" and the backward "K". Is it swinging vs. looking?

You got it

whitesoxwilkes
06-21-2006, 06:57 AM
Man, you guys are wusses.

What was it like keeping score for the 1919 Sox?

batmanZoSo
06-21-2006, 08:07 AM
I have to clean this up tomorrow with the official box score, but this is what it looks like right now. This was a historic night. Salty99 and Chetchat have already seen this. I'll post this, then I need to get to bed...

(note- I tried to use some white-out on two places to clean up a mistake).

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/brian2653/DSCN0934.jpg

Much neater than Wilkeseseses.

whitesoxwilkes
06-21-2006, 08:45 AM
Much neater than Wilkeseseses.
Brian26 doesn't swill 7 beers a game.

TornLabrum
06-21-2006, 09:36 AM
What was it like keeping score for the 1919 Sox?

Pretty tough in the pre-Scoremaster era.

TornLabrum
06-21-2006, 09:38 AM
Much neater than Wilkeseseses.

Ah, you do hits like me. However, I also give the approximate shape and relative distance (based on position) of fly outs. (See front page of Scoremaster.)

I want Mags back
06-21-2006, 11:28 AM
What a mess

tacosalbarojas
06-21-2006, 12:59 PM
The beauty of it is that there's no set method or wrong way to keep score. Wilkes calls a flyout to Anderson "8", I call it F-8. Other people might use FO-8.I'm a longtime "8" guy as well. Crazy Carl made the solo "8" use acceptable again. I love the calligraphy displayed here, though!

ChiSoxGirl
06-21-2006, 03:08 PM
My only complaint about the Scoremasters is that they need one or two more lines on the visiting team's page for relief pitchers.

I agree. There have been many games that I find myself drawing lines in at the bottom and writing much smaller than normal. Scoremasters has it set up for the "perfect" baseball game- starter, middle reliever, closer. It's just too bad games like that are rare these days.

AZChiSoxFan
06-21-2006, 03:21 PM
I have to clean this up tomorrow with the official box score, but this is what it looks like right now. This was a historic night. Salty99 and Chetchat have already seen this. I'll post this, then I need to get to bed...

(note- I tried to use some white-out on two places to clean up a mistake).

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/brian2653/DSCN0934.jpg


When Gload batted in the 6th, in the upper right hand corner of his box, you have two dots. What does that represent?

HotelWhiteSox
06-21-2006, 03:47 PM
When Gload batted in the 6th, in the upper right hand corner of his box, you have two dots. What does that represent?

RBI's

Frankfan4life
06-21-2006, 05:03 PM
Thanks for posting your scorecard B26. Nice job! It makes my scorekeeping look really cheesy by comparison. I'd be too embarrased to post it. :redface: I use the ballpark scorecard and you can't put down a lot of detail on that one. But I like to keep score because it's my personal souvenir of the game.

MrT27
06-21-2006, 05:44 PM
This is one of the reasons I always keep score. I wish I would have been there last night. Also props on using a pen. I make so many mistakes it wouldn't be worth it if I used a pen.

Vernam
06-21-2006, 06:29 PM
Ha ha ha...much neater than mine (as usual). Mine, too. :redface: Did anyone get the scoop on why Uribe and Crede got flipped in the order? Pretty easy to write over one to turn it into the other!

All I can say is, you guys don't drink enough beer at the game. :wink:

Vernam

Brian26
06-21-2006, 08:08 PM
I had time to finish this in the morning and check the totals with the box score. In case anyone's interested, here's what the finished product looks like.
White Sox side:

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/brian2653/DSCN0935.jpg

Cardinals side:
http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/brian2653/DSCN0938.jpg

Some interesting notes: The Sox had 19 rbi (no rbi scored on the wild pitch). I ran out of room as you can see on the Cardinals pitching side, so I had to put Flores on the top. Scoremaster has a column for "At Bats". This never made much sense to me for a pitcher's line (walks aren't at bats, but they are batters faced). So, I changed it to "BF" batters faced.

Brian26
06-21-2006, 08:11 PM
:redface: I use the ballpark scorecard and you can't put down a lot of detail on that one. But I like to keep score because it's my personal souvenir of the game.

Don't knock the ballpark scorecard though. The advantage on those is that they list the opposing team's roster with uni #'s, so you can figure out what's going on with substitutions when the scoreboard is wrong.

Brian26
06-21-2006, 08:14 PM
Man, you guys are wusses. I keep balls and strikes, so I know that for at least 4 consecutive AB in the 9th inning (I'm going from memory because I left the book out in the car to keep it out of the rain) Mercury Montero had 1-2 counts on the batters and gave up a single each time.

I've tried to do that successfully only one time (Opening Day 2005). My problem is that if I'm at a game with someone, there's usually some conversation going on to distract me from seeing every single pitch. If I'm alone, I get bored sometimes and ultimately get distracted looking at some other action (Southpaw, Chevy Pride Crew, etc). It's just too difficult.

tacosalbarojas
06-22-2006, 12:36 PM
This is one of the reasons I always keep score. I wish I would have been there last night. Also props on using a pen. I make so many mistakes it wouldn't be worth it if I used a pen.I like the mechanical pencil because it gives you a quasi-neatness that you get with a pen, while still being able to erase as needed. My mantra is that scorekeeping is more of an art than it is a science, so the tools you use are vitally important to the overall scoring experience.