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Minnie Me
06-13-2006, 12:51 PM
BA is on the way to a great rookie season.
Don't expect any sub par defensive .258 lifetime hitters patrolling in center no more.
IMHO BA on the way. BA should end up batting third in the lineup within the next five years and he still could end up leading the league in HR's for a ninth place hitter this year.

GO SOX

IlliniSox
06-13-2006, 12:54 PM
:threadrules:

Tekijawa
06-13-2006, 12:56 PM
I like Brain... I hope he continues to do as well as he has in the past 2 games...

jenn2080
06-13-2006, 01:06 PM
This thread is much better then the Brian Anderson needs to go Part 525.

Brian will get into his groove. It is gonna take him a bit but he will. The kid has potential. He has proved that the past few games.

HawkDJ
06-13-2006, 01:06 PM
I like Brain... I hope he continues to do as well as he has in the past 2 games...

http://www.jwwaterhouse.com/pntb/the_brain_t.gif ??

Sorry, had to do it. But seriously, I've heard enough about Brian, he's staying.

jenn2080
06-13-2006, 01:20 PM
Lets talk about Uribe! He aint doing to hot as of late.

Minnie Me
06-13-2006, 01:29 PM
This thread is much better then the Brian Anderson needs to go Part 525.

Brian will get into his groove. It is gonna take him a bit but he will. The kid has potential. He has proved that the past few games.

As noted in a newspaper interview with Jim Landis today:Landis had a .212 rookie season followed by a .184 average the following year thru June 1 with 3 HR and 6 RBI, but he went on a tear and was up to .290 by July 1st.
Landis also said you need a great manager and team mates to pull you thru the rough spots. Landis had Lopez, Nellie, Minnie, Sherm etc.
I think that we got the perfect manager (Ozzie) to pull BA thru.

viagracat
06-13-2006, 01:33 PM
I like Brain... I hope he continues to do as well as he has in the past 2 games...

http://www.reelclassics.com/Actors/Bolger/images9/wizoz_dorothy_scarecrow.jpg

"I could while away the hours
Conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain
And my head, I'd be scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain."

:)

Jaffar
06-13-2006, 01:40 PM
At least Brian doesn't make $13,000,000 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5931) but he'll be just fine.

MERPER
06-13-2006, 01:46 PM
No. 9 hitters are usually meaningless to a batting order, especially one as good as the Sox.... Brian is already one of the best centerfielders in all of baseball from a purely defensive standpoint...

His struggles at the plate up until this time have been magnified by the struggles of Uribe... if Uribe was hitting his usual .250-.260 then Anderson's problems wouldn't be a huge concern because we'd only be giving up 1 out at the bottom of the order instead of the 2 we have been...

I firmly believe Anderson will snap out of this, the last 2 games have been good signs...

oeo
06-13-2006, 01:49 PM
Lets talk about Uribe! He aint doing to hot as of late.

He's been shooting the ball all over the place, lately, just right at guys. Uribe will be fine.

oeo
06-13-2006, 01:52 PM
No. 9 hitters are usually meaningless to a batting order, especially one as good as the Sox.... Brian is already one of the best centerfielders in all of baseball from a purely defensive standpoint...

His struggles at the plate up until this time have been magnified by the struggles of Uribe... if Uribe was hitting his usual .250-.260 then Anderson's problems wouldn't be a huge concern because we'd only be giving up 1 out at the bottom of the order instead of the 2 we have been...

I firmly believe Anderson will snap out of this, the last 2 games have been good signs...

I disagree that they are not important. Look at the second inning yesterday. Both Uribe and Brian got on and set the table for the top of the order to drive them in. If we get production from the whole lineup, then someone is going to step up. You can't always depend on the guys at the top of the order to get the job done, so the bottom of the order is going to have to come through, as well.

hawkjt
06-13-2006, 02:04 PM
going to put my rose colored glasses on and say that since brian made the big catch on friday, he has two hits on Sunday,another on Monday, a hit that was ruled a error on Sat. and a bunt last nite that could have been called a sacrifice and a walk. That is six quality at bats since Sat.
And of course he is the second coming of Jolting Joe dimaggio in centerfield- he glides to the ball effortlessly much like they used to say about JoeD.

Keep it going, BA.

soxfan13
06-13-2006, 02:07 PM
I disagree that they are not important. Look at the second inning yesterday. Both Uribe and Brian got on and set the table for the top of the order to drive them in. If we get production from the whole lineup, then someone is going to step up. You can't always depend on the guys at the top of the order to get the job done, so the bottom of the order is going to have to come through, as well.

Very nicely said!!

MERPER
06-13-2006, 02:44 PM
I disagree that they are not important. Look at the second inning yesterday. Both Uribe and Brian got on and set the table for the top of the order to drive them in. If we get production from the whole lineup, then someone is going to step up. You can't always depend on the guys at the top of the order to get the job done, so the bottom of the order is going to have to come through, as well.

I never said they are not important... I said they are USUALLY MEANINGLESS....and they are... obviously when guys at the bottom of the order on any team manage to get on base, it sets up for a big inning because it turns it over to the top of the order for runs...

All I am saying here is that we don't count on Anderson for production...but since Uribe has been struggling all season, the situation is magnified... teams usually have 1 hole in their lineup...but having 2 holes is not a good idea...

Tekijawa
06-13-2006, 02:47 PM
I never said they are not important... I said they are USUALLY MEANINGLESS....and they are... obviously when guys at the bottom of the order on any team manage to get on base, it sets up for a big inning because it turns it over to the top of the order for runs...

All I am saying here is that we don't count on Anderson for production...but since Uribe has been struggling all season, the situation is magnified... teams usually have 1 hole in their lineup...but having 2 holes is not a good idea...

Please forward this to the team up north that has 6 holes in their line-up or that team in KC that has 9 holes... as a matter of fact, please post a line up that doesn't have more than 2 holes in it...

oeo
06-13-2006, 03:10 PM
I never said they are not important... I said they are USUALLY MEANINGLESS....and they are... obviously when guys at the bottom of the order on any team manage to get on base, it sets up for a big inning because it turns it over to the top of the order for runs...

All I am saying here is that we don't count on Anderson for production...but since Uribe has been struggling all season, the situation is magnified... teams usually have 1 hole in their lineup...but having 2 holes is not a good idea...
I'm saying, eventually we are going to have to count on Anderson for production. Thome, Konerko, and Dye are not going to be able to drive in runs, or get on base, everyday...that's where someone needs to step up. And Anderson can be a good RBI guy at the bottom of the order. There has not been a huge need for production from Anderson, to date. But, eventually, he's going to have to be the guy that has to produce when things are not going well for the rest of the lineup.

White Sox Randy
06-13-2006, 03:14 PM
Firstly, I have been in favor of keeping Anderson. But, I was watching the game with my wife yesterday (it's great because I turned her into a big fan) and she comes up with this thought that shocked me.

She actually had a point. She said when the play the NL, the bottom of the order will be Uribe, Anderson and the pitcher. That could be scary - with no Thome.

Keep your fingers crossed that these 2 pull out of it soon.

oeo
06-13-2006, 03:19 PM
Firstly, I have been in favor of keeping Anderson. But, I was watching the game with my wife yesterday (it's great because I turned her into a big fan) and she comes up with this thought that shocked me.

She actually had a point. She said when the play the NL, the bottom of the order will be Uribe, Anderson and the pitcher. That could be scary - with no Thome.

Keep your fingers crossed that these 2 pull out of it soon.
If you watched the game yesterday, did you not see that they were not automatic outs? Uribe is getting a lot crap, but since he came back, he's been shooting the ball all over the place. He hasn't gotten the results yet, and that's why I think he's very unlucky. And Anderson has been giving good at-bats for awhile now. I said that it would eventually pay off, and it finally is beginning too. But of course, some people don't actually notice it until his batting average starts going upwards. A good at-bat does not equal a hit; it can be a walk, a strikeout, a flyout, etc. If Ozzie had him in there everyday for the last month, I think we would have already seen a huge improvement in his average. You can't just send the guy out there every 3 days and expect him to all of a sudden start hitting, you need to give him at-bats.

Both Anderson and Uribe are going to be fine.

Minnie Me
06-13-2006, 03:21 PM
Firstly, I have been in favor of keeping Anderson. But, I was watching the game with my wife yesterday (it's great because I turned her into a big fan) and she comes up with this thought that shocked me.

She actually had a point. She said when the play the NL, the bottom of the order will be Uribe, Anderson and the pitcher. That could be scary - with no Thome.

Keep your fingers crossed that these 2 pull out of it soon.

Whatever, cause our 7-8-9 will still outhit and outplay any NL 7-8-9. Tell her We is that good.

GOGOGOPODS
06-13-2006, 04:19 PM
Now this thread is more like it. Give BA time, he will come around. He is looking more and more confident every at bat these last two days. The kid needs to keep getting his confidence back and he will be fine. He had very solid numbers down at AAA Charlotte, and will continue those numbers in the majors. I love his attitude as he is some character in the clubhouse. If he keeps getting hot, it will be great for the bottom of the order. BA will turn into a fan favorite with his great defense along with offense which will continue to get stronger. I mean he is ONLY a rookie, he is going to have his struggles at the plate.

rdwj
06-13-2006, 04:52 PM
:anderson:

Good to see some positive threads about BA!

I really believe he's going to put up some decent numbers by the end of the year. When he gets going, look out!

roylestillman
06-13-2006, 04:56 PM
:anderson:

Good to see some positive threads about BA!

I really believe he's going to put up some decent numbers by the end of the year. When he gets going, look out!

Yep, I think we are about two weeks away from a thread about why is he still batting ninth. Looking back, that catch Friday night and the ovation after will be noted as the turning point.

Goose
06-13-2006, 04:57 PM
The "Anderson has to go" threads (I realize this is not one of those) which seem very popular on this board are starting to remind me of all the "Bring me the Head of Joe Crede" threads being posted at the beginning 2/3 of the season last year.

I think that Brian is going to be a cornerstone of this team - defensively as well as offensively - just give him some time. We will be singing his praises at the next Parade.

QCIASOXFAN
06-13-2006, 07:16 PM
I think that BA will be alright now because he knows things cant get much worse for him and he knows Ozzie is going to trot his ass out there every night.

Lillian
06-13-2006, 09:06 PM
I wish that he could see a few more right handers. Hitting southpaws can be tough. I never put much stock in the whole platooning idea. It's complicated, and this is not the place to go into it, but suffice to say that it can be difficult. I think that he should face both, and let's see if he really does worse against right handers.
I'd also like to see him try to hit the ball right up the middle, and to right field. It would give him more time to see the ball, and keep him from turning the ball over, and hitting grounders on the pitches away. Of course I understand that's good advice for any struggling hitter. Please take not Juan.
Ted Williams used to say that it takes about 1,000 at bats, at the Major League level for most guys to figure it out. It is way too soon to get down on the kid.
I do hope that the fans continue to support him. It sure doesn't help him any to boo him. Of course he's trying, and the support can only be positive.

StatHead21
06-13-2006, 09:27 PM
Anderson is a good defensive centerfielder, with average pop and average speed. The only way he's a #3 hitter in the next couple of year is if he gets traded to the Cubs. I don't get the Anderson love fest, he's a pretty boy who cares more about his hair than his hitting.

"Brian whats the best part about knowing you'll start in CF?"
"The honeys"- Brian Anderson

I thought I'd never say this but I want Torii Hunter on the Sox...

ilsox7
06-13-2006, 09:28 PM
Anderson is a good defensive centerfielder, with average pop and average speed. The only way he's a #3 hitter in the next couple of year is if he gets traded to the Cubs. I don't get the Anderson love fest, he's a pretty boy who cares more about his hair than his hitting.

"Brian whats the best part about knowing you'll start in CF?"
"The honeys"- Brian Anderson

I thought I'd never say this but I want Torii Hunter on the Sox...

That's some trollish bull**** right there.

StatHead21
06-13-2006, 09:32 PM
That's some trollish bull**** right there.

Don't blame the messinger....He said it, I didn't.

DSpivack
06-13-2006, 09:35 PM
Don't blame the messinger....He said it, I didn't.

You said he cares more about his hair than his hitting. That's bull****.

ilsox7
06-13-2006, 09:37 PM
You said he cares more about his hair than his hitting. That's bull****.

And here is the full quote. Shocking that this poster took the quote out of context and cannot recognize humor:

"The first reason I play this game is because I want to win. I want to be the best baseball player I can be, but I want my team to be the best. Second comes the financial aspect, where I can help take care of my family. Three, yeah, three is the honeys. No doubt, the honeys are No. 3."
--White Sox center fielder Brian Anderson, on why he plays baseball (Chicago Sun-Times)

StatHead21
06-13-2006, 09:38 PM
You said he cares more about his hair than his hitting. That's bull****.

He's hitting below the Mendoza line and has some nice blonde locks, prove me wrong.

StatHead21
06-13-2006, 09:45 PM
And here is the full quote. Shocking that this poster took the quote out of context and cannot recognize humor:

Sorry I had to paraphrase it but until he proves he can hit I don't want him in CF plain and simple. I'm sorry if I don't want to settle a mediocre starting centerfielder but thats just me.

KRS1
06-13-2006, 09:53 PM
He's hitting below the Mendoza line and has some nice blonde locks, prove me wrong.

:rolleyes:

Hitmen77
06-13-2006, 10:06 PM
Anderson with some good at bats again tonight.:smile:

doctorlecter
06-13-2006, 10:33 PM
Yep, I think we are about two weeks away from a thread about why is he still batting ninth.

Great teams tend to be solid up the middle, and Rob Mackowiak is anything but solid. BA fits that description. His at bats seem to be turning the corner, too.

ilsox7
06-14-2006, 12:01 AM
Great teams tend to be solid up the middle, and Rob Mackowiak is anything but solid. BA fits that description. His at bats seem to be turning the corner, too.

He's been taking some really good swings the past few games.

Minnie Me
06-14-2006, 08:20 AM
He's been taking some really good swings the past few games.

Keeping swinging Brain. You will come around.

http://home.paonline.com/mikehoov/HOBBIES/Movie_Posters/Brain_That_Wouldnt_Die/animated_head.gif

ondafarm
06-14-2006, 10:59 AM
Anderson is getting better at bats lately. He mixed things up nicely last night, not always taking the first pitch and working a walk very well. He had some good swings and is making better contact. He'll be fine.

ode to veeck
06-14-2006, 12:52 PM
Sorry I had to paraphrase it but until he proves he can hit I don't want him in CF plain and simple. I'm sorry if I don't want to settle a mediocre starting centerfielder but thats just me.

BA is on outstanding CF, or haven't you been watching?!

jenn2080
06-14-2006, 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by StatHead21
Sorry I had to paraphrase it but until he proves he can hit I don't want him in CF plain and simple. I'm sorry if I don't want to settle a mediocre starting centerfielder but thats just me.

BA is on outstanding CF, or haven't you been watching?!

Apparently not

southside rocks
06-14-2006, 01:12 PM
Anderson is the Sox centerfielder for the next decade, and I predict he will be a Gold Glove centerfielder and a good hitter. I'm probably a lot older than most people posting here, but I remember Ken Berry and Anderson is IMO better than Berry.

His rookie year will, I believe, be remembered as his worst. I am impressed at the way he's handled the adversity and the just plain garbage that he's gotten this year; it definitely has increased my respect for him.

So he's single and 24 and he's got babes on his mind. Geez, is MLB some sort of Trappist monk order now? I'm a girl and I think Anderson's a very cute guy, but I think he's a downright beautiful CENTER FIELDER.

Randar68
06-14-2006, 01:29 PM
BA is on outstanding CF, or haven't you been watching?!

His alias is "StatHead"... isn't it obvious that he doesn't believe in defense if he can't quantify it...

:whatever:

Minnie Me
06-14-2006, 02:06 PM
Anderson is the Sox centerfielder for the next decade, and I predict he will be a Gold Glove centerfielder and a good hitter. I'm probably a lot older than most people posting here, but I remember Ken Berry and Anderson is IMO better than Berry.

His rookie year will, I believe, be remembered as his worst. I am impressed at the way he's handled the adversity and the just plain garbage that he's gotten this year; it definitely has increased my respect for him.

So he's single and 24 and he's got babes on his mind. Geez, is MLB some sort of Trappist monk order now? I'm a girl and I think Anderson's a very cute guy, but I think he's a downright beautiful CENTER FIELDER.

But is Anderson as good as Darren Lewis???

hawkjt
06-14-2006, 02:28 PM
BA's hitting .300 and has onbase% of .450 the last three games.

What gets me is that he can go out and put together a good week hitting .300 + and some dabbler will write or commentate that BA is killing the sox cuz he is hitting .190.

In baseball it is all about the trend and recent performance. BA's arrow is pointing up and yet talk radio guys will constantly talk about the sox CF problem.

hardcore fans like those on this board are better baseball heads than most writers or radio jocks.

jongarlandlover
06-14-2006, 03:19 PM
"The first reason I play this game is because I want to win. I want to be the best baseball player I can be, but I want my team to be the best. Second comes the financial aspect, where I can help take care of my family. Three, yeah, three is the honeys. No doubt, the honeys are No. 3."
--White Sox center fielder Brian Anderson, on why he plays baseball (Chicago Sun-Times)

haha, i would sooo be one of brian's 'honeys.' :tongue:

but seriously, i'm so happy for him. when he got that home run a couple days ago i was just ecstatic. he'll get his average up and he's an outstanding center fielder. he'll be fine.

southside rocks
06-14-2006, 04:42 PM
But is Anderson as good as Darren Lewis???

If you're asking do I think that Anderson would get the Sox more than Chad Fonville in a trade right now, the answer is yes. :rolleyes:

Flight #24
06-15-2006, 04:19 PM
Not to resurrect a dying thread, but I thought this was worthy of note. BP basically gushing about Brian's D in CF http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5200

Some noteworthy quotes (warning: strange and confusing acronyms ahead):

Anderson is producing on defense at a RATE (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?search=rate) of 124, meaning that if he keeps up his current play he'll have saved an astounding 24 runs above the average centerfielder (think the once-spectacular Andruw Jones (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/jonesan01.php) since 2004) over 100 games. Since 1900, no centerfielder has kept up a 124 RATE for a full season--not Willie Mays (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/mayswi01.shtml), Tris Speaker (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/speaktr01.shtml), Curt Flood (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt/floodcu01.shtml), or Jim Edmonds (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/edmonji01.php):

Sox fans might be shocked to note Anderson has been basically as good as Aaron Rowand (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/rowanaa01.php) (1.2 WARP)--notwithstanding his legendary grab (http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060511&content_id=1449412&vkey=news_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi) of Xavier Nady (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/nadyxa01.php)'s deep fly that earned him a facial fracture and the undying devotion of blue-collar Philadelphia, Rowand has not had nearly the kind of year in center Anderson is enjoying. The comparison accentuates just how much GM Kenny Williams improved his team by dealing Rowand for Jim Thome (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/thomeji01.php)

and best of all:

Ozzie Guillen, then, can justifiably call Brian Anderson a championship-caliber defender, and if Anderson starts hitting like he's capable, it could become awfully tough for AL challengers to block Guillen from backing up his statements with a second ring.

Minnie Me
06-15-2006, 04:37 PM
THE BRAIN THAT WOULD NOT DIE!!


http://home.paonline.com/mikehoov/HOBBIES/Movie_Posters/Brain_That_Wouldnt_Die/animated_head.gif

The Wimperoo
06-15-2006, 04:50 PM
Not to resurrect a dying thread, but I thought this was worthy of note. BP basically gushing about Brian's D in CF http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5200

Some noteworthy quotes (warning: strange and confusing acronyms ahead):

and best of all:



What does BP know? Anderson stills sucks

Frater Perdurabo
06-15-2006, 05:15 PM
Not to resurrect a dying thread, but I thought this was worthy of note. BP basically gushing about Brian's D in CF http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5200

I'm not a numbers guy, but I'll use them when they agree with my argument. :redface:

Strictly in terms of wins and losses, however, without regard to the long term, replacing Anderson in center with Scott Podsednik (owner of a career RATE of 98 in center) or a platoon of the lefty Rob Mackowiak (90 career RATE in center) and righty Pablo Ozuna (6 career games in center), the two in-house options, would be a net loss.

Brian Anderson should be starting at least five or six games per week in center field.

Jaffar
06-15-2006, 05:20 PM
haha, i would sooo be one of brian's 'honeys.' :tongue:

but seriously, i'm so happy for him. when he got that home run a couple days ago i was just ecstatic. he'll get his average up and he's an outstanding center fielder. he'll be fine.

Will we soon be seeing "Brian's Honey Pot"? Ala Crede's Crew, Thome's Homies. Ladies, STEP UP!

Frater Perdurabo
06-16-2006, 10:35 AM
Anderson with another hit last night. Let's keep it up, Brian! Although it didn't score a run, it shows he's on the right track at the plate to go along with his tremendous defense.

:bandance:

Ol' No. 2
06-16-2006, 11:05 AM
Anderson with another hit last night. Let's keep it up, Brian! Although it didn't score a run, it shows he's on the right track at the plate to go along with his tremendous defense.

:bandance:And what a monster hit it was!:redneck

I guess when you're hitting .160 you can't be choosey.

Frater Perdurabo
06-16-2006, 11:05 AM
And what a monster hit it was!:redneck

I guess when you're hitting .160 you can't be choosey.

It may be .160, but it's a "rising" .160. :tongue:

FielderJones
06-16-2006, 11:19 AM
And what a monster hit it was!:redneck

I guess when you're hitting .160 you can't be choosey.

Every time Brian goes 1 for 4, or even 1 for 5, he raises his average. :tongue:

Hitmen77
06-16-2006, 08:07 PM
It's only the 3rd inning and another good night for BA!

:gulp: :gulp: :gulp:

caulfield12
06-16-2006, 08:09 PM
6 for his last 16 (.375)...

5 for 9 to get back to .200, amazingly enough

25 for 141 on the season (.177), we'll take it....looks like the decision to keep him up might be paying off, and nice to see the hustle and that he went to the opposite field

Now all we have to do is get Garcia straightened out.

ChicagoHoosier
06-16-2006, 10:50 PM
With his D, I just would settle for him hitting .230 this year.

Wonder what his avg would have to be the rest of the year to raise it to .230?

IlliniSox4Life
06-16-2006, 11:24 PM
With his D, I just would settle for him hitting .230 this year.

Wonder what his avg would have to be the rest of the year to raise it to .230?

Well, doing some rough math, considering the season is about 1/3 of the way done and he's batting .177, that means he'd have to bat roughly .257 to get his season total to .230.

Tragg
06-17-2006, 01:04 AM
Not to resurrect a dying thread, but I thought this was worthy of note. BP basically gushing about Brian's D in CF http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5200

And then some numbskull crashed the party by asking a BP person in the chat "what would it take to get Juan PIerre away from the Cubs." Arghhhhhhhhhh!
(the Chattor made the appropriate response).

HomeFish
06-17-2006, 01:13 AM
DJ today said that Ken Griffey Jr's defense reminded him of Brian Anderson.

The BA Kool-Aid is being served by the gallon, it seems.

Beautox
06-17-2006, 01:29 AM
DJ today said that Ken Griffey Jr's defense reminded him of Brian Anderson.

The BA Kool-Aid is being served by the gallon, it seems.

yum! drink it up it goes down smooth :gulp: , as i said from the very first Corey Patterson thread, IF Brian continued to struggle we where going to need a complete CF, I'm glad hes on the right track. Him and Uribe.

Grzegorz
06-17-2006, 05:55 AM
It's nice to see him improve at the plate. I am sure he'll still have his ups and downs, but in the end, he's the CF in the playoffs.

Any update on his suspension?

southside rocks
06-17-2006, 07:55 AM
The BA Kool-Aid is being served by the gallon, it seems.
It's the drink of choice this summer. :D: I like it with ice and just a splash of vodka. Can I fix you one?

TornLabrum
06-17-2006, 09:05 AM
It's the drink of choice this summer. :D: I like it with ice and just a splash of vodka. Can I fix you one?

Nah, HomeFish prefers to drink water droplets gathered from cumulonimbus clouds.

southside rocks
06-17-2006, 10:17 AM
Nah, HomeFish prefers to drink water droplets gathered from cumulonimbus clouds.

But what if it's a sunny day and there are no clouds on the horizon?? :o:

TornLabrum
06-17-2006, 10:23 AM
But what if it's a sunny day and there are no clouds on the horizon?? :o:

He hires someone to seed clouds.

Frater Perdurabo
06-17-2006, 12:39 PM
But what if it's a sunny day and there are no clouds on the horizon?? :o:
One can always count on the pants pissers to dampen spirits, too. :(:

rumbleseat16
06-17-2006, 03:48 PM
BA has Tori Hunter type talent as a defender. He has bottomed out at the plate and can only go north from here....agree with OZ keeping him as our starter.....spell him with Mackowiak occasionally if needed.

oeo
06-17-2006, 04:25 PM
BA has Tori Hunter type talent as a defender. He has bottomed out at the plate and can only go north from here....agree with OZ keeping him as our starter.....spell him with Mackowiak occasionally if needed.

I disagree, I think he's better than Torii Hunter.

Randar68
06-25-2006, 12:18 AM
Where's Ole' No 2 when Mackowiak is a total hack in the OF costing the Sox multiple runs? The Sox were able to overcome his total ineptitude, the AT LEAST 2 blatant balls he did not get to tonight that Anderson would have...

Can't wait to have him back from suspension so I can stop having to watch a freaking utility IF'er playing CF...

Deuce
06-25-2006, 12:23 AM
Where's Ole' No 2 when Mackowiak is a total hack in the OF costing the Sox multiple runs? The Sox were able to overcome his total ineptitude, the AT LEAST 2 blatant balls he did not get to tonight that Anderson would have...

Can't wait to have him back from suspension so I can stop having to watch a freaking utility IF'er playing CF...Amen, brother. The outfield is not the place for Mack. I'm glad he is with the team, but he will serve the team better in his normal positions.

Deuce

Hitmen77
06-25-2006, 12:36 AM
Amen, brother. The outfield is not the place for Mack. I'm glad he is with the team, but he will serve the team better in his normal positions.

Deuce

Yeah, I agree. I think Mack has done as well as could be expected of him "holding down the fort". Not too bad in the field the first 3 games. But, today reminded us again that it could be a long, painful season if he were our everday CF. Kudos to him, though, for coming through in the 10th with the leadoff double.

I hope the 5 day layoff won't stall the progress BA has been showing at the plate since the Cleveland series.

DickAllen72
06-25-2006, 01:08 AM
Even when Anderson comes back, we need a good back-up centerfielder. I like Mack, but he should only be in CF as a last resort. He shouldn't be #2 on the depth chart in CF.

Actually, a guy like Juan Pierre would be perfect as the 25th man on the Sox roster. I like Gload a lot, but we need a back-up centerfielder.

Of course Erstadt would be great in that spot too. He could back up both in CF and 1B. Of course, neither Pierre nor Erstadt will be acquired and I doubt either one would want to be a 25th man anyway, even though that's all they could be on the 2006 Sox.

Is there any other player out there that would fill the role that could be acquired cheaply?

gobears1987
06-25-2006, 01:21 AM
BA was starting to get some nice consistency before he dropped his appeal. Here's hoping it continues.:gulp:

ChiSoxFan7
06-25-2006, 10:41 AM
Amen, brother. The outfield is not the place for Mack. I'm glad he is with the team, but he will serve the team better in his normal positions.

Deuce

what does he normally play? just wondering cuz i have no idea?:redface:

Rounding_Third
06-25-2006, 11:21 AM
what does he normally play? just wondering cuz i have no idea?:redface:

He normally plays the corner outfields and can also play 3rd, 2nd, or 1st.

I'm a big BA fan but Mack has done a solid job. I'd say he's helped a lot more than he's hurt us and that's all than can be asked from a utility player. I cringe when the ball is lined to him but what a force at the bottom of the lineup.

mcp5185
06-25-2006, 06:50 PM
Is there any other player out there that would fill the role that could be acquired cheaply?

Brady Clark of the Brewers has been mentioned before. He's better than Mack in CF and will hit around .275. The Brewers have a bunch of young outfielders and we could probably get him, if we send them some minor league pitchers.

Hitmen77
06-28-2006, 09:30 AM
When does (or did) Anderson's suspension end? I thought it ended after Sunday's game. I'm surprised he didn't at least make a defensive appearance in the 9th last night in Pittsburgh.

5 day suspension plus and off day plus another day out of the lineup - I hope his one week off doesn't disrupt the progress he's been making at the plate of late.

Steelrod
06-28-2006, 09:49 AM
...and gave him a chance to think about the improvements he's made.

34 Inch Stick
06-28-2006, 10:59 AM
When does (or did) Anderson's suspension end? I thought it ended after Sunday's game. I'm surprised he didn't at least make a defensive appearance in the 9th last night in Pittsburgh.

5 day suspension plus and off day plus another day out of the lineup - I hope his one week off doesn't disrupt the progress he's been making at the plate of late.

I was thinking before the game that it would be a good series to let Mackowiak start. There is something about familiarity with a former team that brings good games out of players. On the other hand I would hate to let Anderson sit any longer. If I were Ozzie I would give each of the outfielders a day off and let Mackowiak start in a different OF position each night.

soxfan13
06-28-2006, 11:02 AM
When does (or did) Anderson's suspension end? I thought it ended after Sunday's game. I'm surprised he didn't at least make a defensive appearance in the 9th last night in Pittsburgh.

5 day suspension plus and off day plus another day out of the lineup - I hope his one week off doesn't disrupt the progress he's been making at the plate of late.

It is over. Read today that Anderson will start tonite.

slobes
06-28-2006, 11:03 AM
He normally plays the corner outfields and can also play 3rd, 2nd, or 1st.

I'm a big BA fan but Mack has done a solid job. I'd say he's helped a lot more than he's hurt us and that's all than can be asked from a utility player. I cringe when the ball is lined to him but what a force at the bottom of the lineup.

Right now it seems like Mack will only play CF. Has he really played much anywhere else this year? When we brought him in, I think he was supposed to be the main backup for Crede, but Cintron seems to be in that position now. I think Ozuna has filled in for Iguchi at 1st, and then we have Gload as a defensive replacement at 1st. I think he'll only find time in center.

oeo
06-28-2006, 11:05 AM
Right now it seems like Mack will only play CF. Has he really played much anywhere else this year? When we brought him in, I think he was supposed to be the main backup for Crede, but Cintron seems to be in that position now. I think Ozuna has filled in for Iguchi at 1st, and then we have Gload as a defensive replacement at 1st. I think he'll only find time in center.

He played rightfield when Dye was out with those injuries to his calf (I think).

But I don't think he's played the infield. Considering that every other guy on the bench is an infielder, and Mackowiak is versatile, it makes sense.

Randar68
06-28-2006, 11:17 AM
Right now it seems like Mack will only play CF. Has he really played much anywhere else this year?

He's been a late inning defensive replacement for Pods as well in LF when he isn't starting.

Hitmen77
06-29-2006, 10:48 PM
Just curious, what has Anderson's batting average been since he was almost sent down and Ozzie decided to stick with him? Not his overall average, but just during that stretch. IIRC, that was during the Cleveland series a few weeks ago.

It seems like he's gotten on base almost every game he's played in since that series.

oeo
06-29-2006, 10:53 PM
Just curious, what has Anderson's batting average been since he was almost sent down and Ozzie decided to stick with him? Not his overall average, but just during that stretch. IIRC, that was during the Cleveland series a few weeks ago.

It seems like he's gotten on base almost every game he's played in since that series.
Since the start of that Cleveland series: .238; .241 after that series (not exactly sure when he was almost sent down), which many of you said that .220 is more than acceptable.

I really wish Ozzie would keep him in late in games. I mean, I know Mackowiak was on base when Thome hit the game-tying homer, but I still want Anderson out there. How does he expect him to get better late in games, or altogether, when he doesn't get the at-bats to do so? If this is going to be your starting centerfielder, keep him out there because when you really need him, he isn't going to do squat.

chisoxwschamps05
06-30-2006, 01:14 PM
He played rightfield when Dye was out with those injuries to his calf (I think).

But I don't think he's played the infield. Considering that every other guy on the bench is an infielder, and Mackowiak is versatile, it makes sense.

He did play right field. I heard on CSN that when Crede's back was acting up a couple of weeks ago, he was taking ground balls in case he needed to play infield.

Lprof
07-01-2006, 11:40 PM
BA is on the way to a great rookie season.
Don't expect any sub par defensive .258 lifetime hitters patrolling in center no more.
IMHO BA on the way. BA should end up batting third in the lineup within the next five years and he still could end up leading the league in HR's for a ninth place hitter this year.

GO SOX Give me a call when he gets over .200. Then maybe we can discuss his batting third.