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czalgosz
02-06-2002, 01:02 PM
This doesn't mean much for real baseball, but it's fun, anyway.

AL Starting Pitchers -

12. Mark Buerhle (between Jamie Moyer and Brad Radke)
34. Todd Ritchie (between Danys Baez and Erik Hiljus)
53. Jon Garland (between Jason Johnson and Brandon Lyon)
63. Danny Wright (between Rick Bauer and Luke Prokopec)
68. Jim Parque (between Chad Durbin and Nick Bierbrodt)

AL Closers -

2. Keith Foulke (between Mariano Rivera and Troy Percival)

AL Middle Relievers -

15. Bob Howry (between Jim Mecir and Paul Shuey)

AL Catchers -

20. Mark L. Johnson (behind Matt LeCroy)
21. Josh Paul (ahead of Brook Fordyce)

AL First Baseman -

7. Frank Thomas (behind Edgar Martinez)
8. Paul Konerko (ahead of John Olerud)

AL Second Basemen -

3. Ray Durham (between Alfonso Soriano and Frank Catalanotto)
23. Tony Graffanino (between Orlando Hudson and Denny Hocking)

AL Third Basemen -

9. Jose Valentin (between Jeff Cirillo and Robin Ventura)

AL Shortstops -

6. Jose Valentin (between Cristian Guzman and David Eckstein)
13. Royce Clayton (between Ricky Gutierrez and Neifi Perez)

AL Outfielders -

3. Magglio Ordonez (between Ichiro Suzuki and Juan Gonzalez)
12. Carlos Lee (between Jermaine Dye and Jose Cruz, Jr.)
34. Kenny Lofton (betwen Ben Grieve and Marty Cordova)
55. Jeff Liefer (between Raul Ibanez and Alex Escobar)
64. Aaron Rowand (between Jolbert Cabrera and Wil Cordero)
68. Brian Simmons (between Jay Gibbons and Adam Piatt)

Like I said, kind of meaningless, but fun nonetheless.

Here is the complete list -

http://games.espn.go.com/cgi/flb/request.dll?RANKINGS&Param0=2&Param1=0&Param2=1

ball state aaron
02-06-2002, 01:38 PM
great job by espn. i could have sworn roberto alomar plays second base, but he's no where to be found on that list. i guess he doesn't really count anyway since he doesn't play for the yankees or red sox.

Iwritecode
02-06-2002, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by czalgosz
AL Third Basemen -

9. Jose Valentin (between Jeff Cirillo and Robin Ventura)

AL Shortstops -

6. Jose Valentin (between Cristian Guzman and David Eckstein)
13. Royce Clayton (between Ricky Gutierrez and Neifi Perez)


C'mon, you had to know this was going to come up...

Jose is at 9 for 3rd but at 6 for short. Hmm... I wonder where he should start more often...
Royce is back at 13? This isn't the first time I've seen Jose ranked higher than Royce. Hmm... I wonder who are starting shortstop should be...

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You got it boss.

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FarWestChicago
02-06-2002, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by ball state aaron
great job by espn. i could have sworn roberto alomar plays second base, but he's no where to be found on that list. i guess he doesn't really count anyway since he doesn't play for the yankees or red sox. You need to look in the right league:

http://games.espn.go.com/cgi/flb/request.dll?RANKINGS&Param0=3&Param1=0&Param2=2

Dadawg_77
02-06-2002, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by ball state aaron
great job by espn. i could have sworn roberto alomar plays second base, but he's no where to be found on that list. i guess he doesn't really count anyway since he doesn't play for the yankees or red sox.

ESPN breaks it out by league for fanasty leagues that only pick from one league. If you add NL and AL together, I think Ray drops to 6 and Mags drops to 12.

AsInWreck
02-06-2002, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Iwritecode


C'mon, you had to know this was going to come up...

Jose is at 9 for 3rd but at 6 for short. Hmm... I wonder where he should start more often...
Royce is back at 13? This isn't the first time I've seen Jose ranked higher than Royce. Hmm... I wonder who are starting shortstop should be...



These are fantasy ratings, yo!

Iwritecode
02-06-2002, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by AsInWreck
These are fantasy ratings, yo!

I know, but even being fantasy they have to have some basis in the real world using real stats. That's typically why the better players are rated higher. Besides, I have seen Jose rated higher than Royce in "real" ratings also.

ball state aaron
02-06-2002, 02:12 PM
my bad, i didn't pay enough attention to see that it was broken down by leagues.

voodoochile
02-06-2002, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Iwritecode


I know, but even being fantasy they have to have some basis in the real world using real stats. That's typically why the better players are rated higher. Besides, I have seen Jose rated higher than Royce in "real" ratings also.

Fantasy stuff (I believe) is totally based on offensive numbers where Jose blows Royce away. I think Jose is at least the defensive equivalent of Royce, but those numbers aren't factored in anyway.

FarWestChicago
02-06-2002, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile


Fantasy stuff (I believe) is totally based on offensive numbers where Jose blows Royce away. I think Jose is at least the defensive equivalent of Royce, but those numbers aren't factored in anyway. Don't foget the BOM's (Backers Of Manos) took down the FOB's (Friends Of Buddy) at SoxFest, too. :D: