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pmck003
05-31-2006, 03:49 PM
doesn't say who they gave up
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-060531cubstrade,1,6896453.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

patbooyah
05-31-2006, 03:52 PM
seems like this is a move that should have been made a month ago.

LuvSox
05-31-2006, 03:54 PM
Hitting .216 with 9 dingers & 31 knocked in. Look out NL Central! :D:

getonbckthr
05-31-2006, 03:54 PM
Im interested who they gave up, and is this a preview of what the next week or 2 will be for the Cubs?

Chisox003
05-31-2006, 03:55 PM
A 35 year old DH (who can't stay healthy) hitting .216 with 2 hits in his last 30 AB's?

Where do I sign?

RKMeibalane
05-31-2006, 03:55 PM
Hitting .216 with 9 dingers & 31 knocked in. Look out NL Central! :D:

In fairness, the entire Rangers offense has sucked. Nevin's a better hitter than he's shown. That said, he's not going to be able to help that team one bit.

getonbckthr
05-31-2006, 03:58 PM
It may not be a great deal but it shows at least for the time being the Cubs are gonna attempt to be buyers and not sellers.

spiffie
05-31-2006, 03:59 PM
:whocares:

And shouldn't this be in WTS?

CubsfansareDRUNK
05-31-2006, 04:02 PM
its baseball news...

SoxFan76
05-31-2006, 04:03 PM
:whocares:

And shouldn't this be in WTS?

This is a semi-big trade. And it has to do with MLB. Why would it go to WTS?

The Anti-Flubsessed are becoming more annoying than the Flubsessed.

spiffie
05-31-2006, 04:07 PM
This is a semi-big trade. And it has to do with MLB. Why would it go to WTS?

The Anti-Flubsessed are becoming more annoying than the Flubsessed.
It's a washed up DH who will be on the bench in three weeks going to a fifth place team. This is a minor transaction that we take note of mostly because of who he got traded to.

And I would say WTS because it can only end in talking about the Cubs, which means its home is in WTS.

TomParrish79
05-31-2006, 04:08 PM
where is he gonna play when Derek Lee comes back?

Banix12
05-31-2006, 04:08 PM
But can Nevin Play second base?

Don't quite understand the timing of this move. They needed a first basemen but Lee gets his cast off today and is likely going to be back in the lineup in about two weeks, at least by Lee's timetable. At this point the need for a trade was minimal.

As I recall he can play a little OF so my guess is he becomes a platoon partner with Jones. He also might become the emergency catcher when barrett goes down with the suspension, rather than call up the rookie Soto.

I wonder what they gave up though. I'm guessing one of their faltering pitchers or possibly Jerry Hairston.

CHISOXFAN13
05-31-2006, 04:10 PM
It's a washed up DH who will be on the bench in three weeks going to a fifth place team. This is a minor transaction that we take note of mostly because of who he got traded to.

And I would say WTS because it can only end in talking about the Cubs, which means its home is in WTS.

Agreed. If Phil Nevin was traded to the Nationals, there might not even be a thread about it, much less 12 posts less than an hour after the trade was made.

Mr. White Sox
05-31-2006, 04:10 PM
Nevin is meh anyway. First off, he's a douche. Second, he's incredibly streaky; the Cubs need a consistent bat in that lineup.

EDIT: THIS IS NOT CONFIRMED.
Here. (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-060531cubstrade,1,6896453.story?coll=cs-home-headlines)

getonbckthr
05-31-2006, 04:14 PM
I see him maybe playing LF.

wood28
05-31-2006, 04:16 PM
The Star Telegram is saying the Cubs give up Jerry Hairston, in case anyone really cares

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/14708862.htm

Flight #24
05-31-2006, 04:16 PM
So the great minds at 1060 W. Addison lose their franchise hitter for 6-8 weeks, wait until he's 1-2 weeks from returning, then trade for a guy who can pretty much only play that same position?

With that kind of bold GM-ing, how can they possibly be in the dire straights they're in, walking in the wild west end with the lions on the boardwalk while making movies?

getonbckthr
05-31-2006, 04:18 PM
The Star Telegram is saying the Cubs give up Jerry Hairston, in case anyone really cares

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/14708862.htm
The Trib makes it appear they are giving up nothing.

HotelWhiteSox
05-31-2006, 04:19 PM
Good, I like Hairston and hated seeing him in a Cubs uniform. Nevin will fit right in with Barrett and Douchebags Anonymous

Agreed. If Phil Nevin was traded to the Nationals, there might not even be a thread about it, much less 12 posts less than an hour after the trade was made.

Or 2 posts saying it was a nonissue :rolleyes:

CubsfansareDRUNK
05-31-2006, 04:20 PM
Still a really "meh" trade for both sides

patbooyah
05-31-2006, 04:20 PM
Agreed. If Phil Nevin was traded to the Nationals, there might not even be a thread about it, much less 12 posts less than an hour after the trade was made.

this thread would be even shorter if people weren't searching for the word "cub" and calling out anyone who dare type it. of course we, as sox fans, care more about a trade made with the cubs. besides the AL central they are one of our biggest rivals in terms of team pride.

Johnny Mostil
05-31-2006, 04:22 PM
This is a semi-big trade. And it has to do with MLB. Why would it go to WTS?

Not that I care, but the main boards page indicates Talking Baseball is for "Serious baseball discussions about the 28 MLB teams past, present and future that don't play in Chicago."

Juice16
05-31-2006, 04:22 PM
where is he gonna play when Derek Lee comes back?

You mean where is Derek Lee gonna play when he comes back?

DeadMoney
05-31-2006, 04:25 PM
Looking more at the Rangers...Why do they need another second basemen when they already have Kinsler, DeRosa and Jimenez. :?: I realize Jimenez is crap and they like to play DeRosa in the OF, but it still is odd.

irish rover
05-31-2006, 04:27 PM
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060531&content_id=1481316&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

Baby Fisk
05-31-2006, 04:31 PM
:

And shouldn't this be in WTS?

Perhaps this is where the line could be drawn. It's about the Cubs, yes, but it's genuine baseball news.

The threads that are tedious are the ones about the media, about encounters with Cubs fans, and threads generally freaking out because someone read the word "Cubs" somewhere.

I'm just saying...

*backs away from thread*

Bill Naharodny
05-31-2006, 04:35 PM
Looking more at the Rangers...Why do they need another second basemen when they already have Kinsler, DeRosa and Jimenez. :?: I realize Jimenez is crap and they like to play DeRosa in the OF, but it still is odd.

The Rangers are simply following the proven Hendry/Baker model of having 47 second basemen. In fact, this move signals that the Cubs aren't done dealing. I expect them to acquire 3 more second basemen before the weekend is out.

champagne030
05-31-2006, 04:47 PM
Agreed. If Phil Nevin was traded to the Nationals, there might not even be a thread about it, much less 12 posts less than an hour after the trade was made.

We get threads with Jason Kendall suspensions, Matt Lawton being released and LeCroy giving up stolen bases. Phil Nevin being traded to anyone today would bring a thread. Maybe not 12 posts in a hour, but at one point in this thread 8 of 28 posts are the result of you.

ChiSoxLifer
05-31-2006, 04:48 PM
It's not a cubs thread. It's a Rangers trade who, although a minute possibility, the White Sox might meet in the playoffs.

Bill Naharodny
05-31-2006, 04:50 PM
It's not a cubs thread. It's a Rangers trade who, although a minute possibility, the White Sox might meet in the playoffs.

It's actually a Phil Nevin thread. Where do we usually put all the Phil Nevin threads?

havelj
05-31-2006, 05:09 PM
The Sox are playing the Rangers this weekend. In 19 games vs. Sox, he has 4 HRs and 12 RBIs. So I guess we will miss those blistering stats!

Randar68
05-31-2006, 05:13 PM
Acquiring a player 5 years after they peaked... That is soooo Cubs...

Chicken Dinner
05-31-2006, 05:16 PM
Isn't Nevin making about 10 mil this year?

getonbckthr
05-31-2006, 05:16 PM
So this deal was basically Nevin for Sosa with a Hairston in there somewhere.

Mr.1Dog
05-31-2006, 05:19 PM
Isn't Nevin making about 10 mil this year?

Nevin's Salary: $10,333,347
Hariston's Salary: $2,300,000

PatK
05-31-2006, 05:21 PM
Wow, what a bad trade.

champagne030
05-31-2006, 05:30 PM
Nevin's Salary: $10,333,347
Hariston's Salary: $2,300,000

The Dallas paper did say that cash would be included with Nevin. The link did not say how much.

SOecks
05-31-2006, 06:19 PM
Boers and Bernstein have been making a lot of steroid innuendo once they heard of the trade. Is there any meat to this? They mentioned 2 other players he went to college with that had a huge peak in HR's around the same timeframe and tailed off big time when testing came into play. I can't remember the 2 other players though. Anyone else hear this?

Chicken Dinner
05-31-2006, 06:35 PM
This explains it.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/060106dnsporangtrade.3ed640a7.html

SouthSide_HitMen
05-31-2006, 07:09 PM
Nevin was a good fantasy pick up for 3 or 4 weeks when he hit 4th for / in Texas Stadium.

He has been worthless in May. The Rangers acquired Nevin in a dump trade sending another mistake Chad Ho Park to the Padres.

I guess this brings the Cubs down to 6 second basemen on the 40 man roster.

Banix12
05-31-2006, 07:14 PM
Acquiring a player 5 years after they peaked... That is soooo Cubs...

It's funny because it's true.

I find this interesting because their other veteran pickup Tony Womack is actually hitting. Now with Nevin they essentially kick Walker out of the lineup because Womack will likely get more starts at 2nd. While Walker isn't the power hitter Nevin is, he is a much better hitter. I actually think they were better off with the lineup before this trade.

Another trade on the way.

Fuller_Schettman
05-31-2006, 07:27 PM
This is so darned funny.

Leave it to the Cubs to trade for a DH! :rolling:

Brian26
05-31-2006, 09:03 PM
:whocares:



Thank You.

itsnotrequired
05-31-2006, 09:23 PM
Thank You.

It is the "biggest" trade in weeks. Still noteworthy...

Chips
05-31-2006, 09:26 PM
You mean where is Derek Lee gonna play when he comes back?

Because it makes sense to bench your best player in favor of a guy with a .216 average. :rolleyes:

Jjav829
05-31-2006, 10:13 PM
Clearly a response by the Cubs to the Clemens signing. That'll teach those Astros. :D:

I wonder if they'll try Nevin in the OF. That would be fun to watch.

Lip Man 1
05-31-2006, 10:31 PM
ESPN radio was reporting the Rangers get no one back in the deal. They simply wanted to get rid of Nevin.

Lip

Chips
05-31-2006, 10:46 PM
ESPN radio was reporting the Rangers get no one back in the deal. They simply wanted to get rid of Nevin.

Lip
Are they paying any salary?

Are the Padres still paying some of that salary?

CHISOXFAN13
05-31-2006, 10:48 PM
ESPN radio was reporting the Rangers get no one back in the deal. They simply wanted to get rid of Nevin.

Lip

That doesn't make sense considering Hairston was on with Boers and Bernstein talking about the deal.

Who knows?

Kogs35
05-31-2006, 10:50 PM
hairston was sent to the rangers lip. he was also on mac,jurko,harry

Lip Man 1
05-31-2006, 11:01 PM
Chips:

When I heard the report earlier it said the Rangers would be paying salary only.

Lip

Jerko
05-31-2006, 11:06 PM
FWIW, he (Hairston) was listed as "on the bench" during the Reds/Cub game on cbs gamecenter. Nevin is still listed on the Rangers though, but that was a day game that started before the trade, so who the heck knows?

Banix12
05-31-2006, 11:13 PM
The official deal is Nevin and Cash for Jerry Hairston. Nevin was due 10 million this year and Hairston is due around 2. The Rangers are going to pay the difference.

So basically they get Phil Nevin at the cost of Jerry Hairston.

And I gotta believe at some point he is going to play OF. After all, he is a veteran and dusty plays veterans. If I'm Murton I am watching my back once Lee comes back. He could be used as a platoon with Jones, but Dusty really doesn't platoon guys often.

EDIT: Just thought of this but does anybody find it funny that in the last two years Jerry Hairston has been traded twice. In those trades the other teams has given up a combined package of Sammy Sosa, Phil Nevin, and $25 million dollars.

So in the last year two teams have traded two former all-stars and enough combined money to pay for one season of Alex Rodriguez to get Jerry Hairston Jr. back in return. (the cubs did a couple of minor leaguers in the sosa deal but one retrired and one languishes at AAA, not likely to get called up anytime soon. Hairston was the only one to make any real major league contributions.)

Steelrod
06-01-2006, 05:56 AM
Hendry following Kenny's successful deals. Trades for power hitting DH with some cash to pay him. Must be preparing to move team to American League!
On the other hand, lets Dusty do some creative double-switching!
OMG

SoxFan76
06-01-2006, 09:19 AM
Hairston is a better player than Nevin. I still don't get this trade. 6 weeks ago it would of made sense, not now.

Flight #24
06-01-2006, 10:12 AM
The official deal is Nevin and Cash for Jerry Hairston. Nevin was due 10 million this year and Hairston is due around 2. The Rangers are going to pay the difference.

So basically they get Phil Nevin at the cost of Jerry Hairston.



And the ST today reports that the Rangers were desperately shopping Nevin in April, with no takers. Given the parameters of this deael, you'd have to believe that had the Cubs said "Umm we'll take on $6M of his deal" in April, it would have been done and they'd have had at least a hint of a power threat at 1B.

Too bad they just don't have the $$$ to make a move like that. If I was a flub fan (something I'm alwasy thankful I'm not), I'd be incredibly pissed at that fact.

tick53
06-01-2006, 12:08 PM
The Cubs are rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic!

Rob190
06-01-2006, 12:35 PM
It's to make the illusion that the cubs are actually making a serious move, so they can keep the fans happy.

irish rover
06-01-2006, 01:03 PM
"We've explored every possibility the last month about trying to add an additional bat," Hendry said. "The way Phil played out of the gate in April in that role, he would've been tough to acquire a month ago in this type of deal."

so basicly they ahd to wait till he started to stink inorder to trade for him

Flight #24
06-01-2006, 01:07 PM
"We've explored every possibility the last month about trying to add an additional bat," Hendry said. "The way Phil played out of the gate in April in that role, he would've been tough to acquire a month ago in this type of deal."

so basicly they ahd to wait till he started to stink inorder to trade for him

IMO, this means "we would have had to pay some of his salary instead of only $375k". Which is pretty sad given the financial status of the Flub franchise.

SouthSide_HitMen
06-01-2006, 02:20 PM
Too bad they just don't have the $$$ to make a move like that. If I was a flub fan (something I'm alwasy thankful I'm not), I'd be incredibly pissed at that fact.

They have the $$$. Unforetunately (for Cubs fans) it is allocated for FitzSimons, not additional ballplayers.

spiffie
06-01-2006, 02:29 PM
They have the $$$. Unforetunately (for Cubs fans) it is allocated for FitzSimons, not additional ballplayers.
http://www.love-boat.org/images/spille/part.jpg

Never thought we'd see you in this thread.

SouthSide_HitMen
06-01-2006, 02:52 PM
http://www.love-boat.org/images/spille/part.jpg

Never thought we'd see you in this thread.

:rolleyes:

Yes I follow baseball both MLB and college. Discussing a MLB trade is a valid baseball discussion.