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Steelrod
05-30-2006, 07:32 AM
On today's news, but not to be concerned. MLB would never approve him based on his behavior in the NBA.

Hangar18
05-30-2006, 09:24 AM
On today's news, but not to be concerned. MLB would never approve him based on his behavior in the NBA.

This is the 10th time in a month this has been brought up. By the Chicago Media. The Media, angered and frustrated that the Chicago White Sox have won a World Series, are in offensive mode. The Chicago Media right now not only are 1. Openly coveting players on other teams to help the Cubs, but now they are 2. Looking for new ownership groups. Ive never seen a group of "impartial" observers get THIS INVOLVED in trying to help a team they cover. Its beyond Conflict of Interest at this point.
Its a Joke.


I spoke to some cub fans over the last couple of days. "Dude, if Cuban buys us (cubs), the SOX can go ahead and have their 1 measly WS, Cuban will get us 10 of them" "Cuban has always been a Cub fan, thats why he wants to buy them" "I wrote a letter to Cuban, telling him to buy the Cubs, we deserve a championship"

Steelrod
05-30-2006, 09:28 AM
It must be a done deal if they actually wrote him a letter!

spawn
05-30-2006, 09:31 AM
I spoke to some cub fans over the last couple of days. "Dude, if Cuban buys us (cubs), the SOX can go ahead and have their 1 measly WS, Cuban will get us 10 of them" "Cuban has always been a Cub fan, thats why he wants to buy them" "I wrote a letter to Cuban, telling him to buy the Cubs, we deserve a championship"

Jeez, how stupid can Cub fans be? Cuban still hasn't won an NBA championship, and they're thinking he's gonna win multiple World Series? Idiots.

LuvSox
05-30-2006, 09:42 AM
What would Cuban do? Spend a ****load of money to bring talent in? That's been tried already with poor results. Cubbie fans are just morons, let them have a glimmer of hope so they can be destroyed when it doesn't happen.

Hangar18
05-30-2006, 09:43 AM
Jeez, how stupid can Cub fans be? Cuban still hasn't won an NBA championship, and they're thinking he's gonna win multiple World Series? Idiots.

I told them that ............ they think its GUARANTEED.
(actual conversation)
CubSheep-"hes always been a Cubs fan, he wants to buy them"
Hangar18-No he doesnt. The media is planting that so that you sheep can start talking about it. And look, you are. Bet you didnt know he grew up a Pirates fan, he wants to buy the Pirates.
CubSheep-No way, your lying. he grew up a Cub fan and wants to buy the Cubs. Can you imagine a WS in Chicago?
Hangar18- yeah, we had one in October remember?
CubSheep- yeah, but nobody was watching, nobody cared, thats why it doesnt count
Hangar18- there were 2 million people there, remember?
CubSheep- some of them were cub fans, you know this too
Hangar18- your ridiculous
CubSheep- Where did I get it? Everyone knows that, people were talking about it when it happened
Hangar18- People? what people? I was at the parade, remember?
It was all SOX fans, not cub fans there. not a single one. Where do you get this nonsense from
CubSheep- Its all over the papers and the radio
Hangar18- the radio?
CubSheep- radio doesnt talk about the SOX, cubs are important in this town

SOXSINCE'70
05-30-2006, 09:45 AM
It must be a done deal if they actually wrote him a letter!

I didn't know they could spell.Did the letter start out
"Deer Mr.Koob-fan"?? :roflmao: :roflmao:

skobabe8
05-30-2006, 09:46 AM
One small problem.....They arent for sale!

cbrownson13
05-30-2006, 09:56 AM
One small problem.....They arent for sale!

Exactly, why would the Tribune Co. sell this team? What other ownership can say that they can put a product out there that doesn't produce and still create a major profit?

This past weekend the Cubs had the highest attendance for a game in 10 or so years. After what this team has shown, why would anyone go out and support this company and team?

Just further reason for the Tribune not to sell.

TheDarkGundam
05-30-2006, 10:03 AM
Just saw a little thing about this on the news. Cuban said IF the cubs were ever put up for sale, he would look at the price. He didn't say he would make an offer, he didn't say he was a cub fan and would love to buy the team, just that he would look at the price. They also mentioned cub fans have been sending him e-mails.

Tekijawa
05-30-2006, 10:28 AM
Just saw a little thing about this on the news. Cuban said IF the cubs were ever put up for sale, he would look at the price. He didn't say he would make an offer, he didn't say he was a cub fan and would love to buy the team, just that he would look at the price. They also mentioned cub fans have been sending him e-mails.

Spamming the Cubs... Nice! I can just see the email now:

From Hendryhotgirl12@yahoo.com

Re: Your Invoice #1908

Avuehefhhebrwb12890234957hahehr hebqubabdjbcbkasj

We have the lowest priced CiaLLis, VIagRa and ChiCago CuBs BaseBall team on the WeB! Visit us at www.chicagotribune.com (http://www.chicagotribune.com/)

Viva Medias B's
05-30-2006, 10:33 AM
Shouldn't this be in the "What's the score" forum?

LuvSox
05-30-2006, 10:36 AM
Spamming the Cubs... Nice! I can just see the email now:

From Hendryhotgirl12@yahoo.com

Re: Your Invoice #1908

Avuehefhhebrwb12890234957hahehr hebqubabdjbcbkasj

We have the lowest priced CiaLLis, VIagRa and ChiCago CuBs BaseBall team on the WeB! Visit us at www.chicagotribune.com (http://www.chicagotribune.com/)


:kneeslap:

nasox
05-30-2006, 10:45 AM
Spamming the Cubs... Nice! I can just see the email now:

From Hendryhotgirl12@yahoo.com

Re: Your Invoice #1908

Avuehefhhebrwb12890234957hahehr hebqubabdjbcbkasj

We have the lowest priced CiaLLis, VIagRa and ChiCago CuBs BaseBall team on the WeB! Visit us at www.chicagotribune.com (http://www.chicagotribune.com/)

Just to see if there actually was a hendryhotgirl12@yahoo.com, I sent an email to it. There actually is, and I got a response asking me how I got this email address. My email was along the lines of:

Dear Jim,
I went to school with you at Spring Hill College (Class of 77) and want to meet with you concerning the alumni program we have at Spring Hill. We want to nominate you for a distinguished alum award. Please contact me....yada yada yada.

I got the response:
Thank you for your contact. I periodically receive spam from those who email me at my personal address about my college days, etc. Please confirm your employment at Spring Hill and your relevancy to the distinguished alum award and I would be happy to talk with you. Understand, I am a busy man and I need to verify such claims. I look forward to your prompt response.

Ok, this is kinda random, but I really got this response. Came somebody please email this address and tell me if they get a response?

LauraJ14
05-30-2006, 12:15 PM
Just saw a little thing about this on the news. Cuban said IF the cubs were ever put up for sale, he would look at the price. He didn't say he would make an offer, he didn't say he was a cub fan and would love to buy the team, just that he would look at the price. They also mentioned cub fans have been sending him e-mails.

I heard this morning on the news that Jay Mariotti has been talking to Cuban about buying the Cubs. Now that's funny!
Lets lead the news off with Vince Vaugn throwing out the first pitch and Mark Cuban buying the Cubs.
Who won the World Series in this town?

Hangar18
05-30-2006, 12:28 PM
Just saw a little thing about this on the news. Cuban said IF the cubs were ever put up for sale, he would look at the price. He didn't say he would make an offer, he didn't say he was a cub fan and would love to buy the team, just that he would look at the price. They also mentioned cub fans have been sending him e-mails.

Lets break all of this down, in Chicago Media Journalism 101

Cuban says: says if cubs were for sale, he would look at price.
Media writes: Cuban interested in Cubs!

Cuban says: Cub fans have been bombarding him with emails
Media says: Cuban aware of Cub Fans

rocky biddle
05-30-2006, 12:39 PM
Here's a nice rebuttal for the Cuban-to-cubs crowd.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05197/538914.stm

My favorite part, from when Cuban sang at the 7th inning stretch at a cubs vs. Pirates game last year-"It absolutely killed me to sing 'Root, root, root for the Cubbies,' " Cuban said. "I asked the broadcasters later if anybody had ever put in the other team."

Lip Man 1
05-30-2006, 12:50 PM
On more then one occasion Mark Cuban has been quoted as saying (most recently on The Sporting News radio network) that IF his wife were to allow him to buy another sports team and IF he decided to get a baseball team, it would be the Pirates, the team he grew up rooting for.

TSN had a little blurb this week saying that the Pirates may, in fact, be up for sale as soon as the All-Star Game is over.

Lip

CLR01
05-30-2006, 12:53 PM
Here's a nice rebuttal for the Cuban-to-cubs crowd.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05197/538914.stm

My favorite part, from when Cuban sang at the 7th inning stretch at a cubs vs. Pirates game last year-

Then why did he sing it?


Cuban is an assclown. He needs to buy a remote island somewhere and stay there. He can take his brother Taylor with.

munchman33
05-30-2006, 01:03 PM
Mark Cuban is a dream to media outlets everywhere. Of course the Chicago media is pulling every string to make this happen.

If it does, I guarantee things will only get worse in terms of media coverage.

Dan Mega
05-30-2006, 01:11 PM
On more then one occasion Mark Cuban has been quoted as saying (most recently on The Sporting News radio network) that IF his wife were to allow him to buy another sports team and IF he decided to get a baseball team, it would be the Pirates, the team he grew up rooting for.

TSN had a little blurb this week saying that the Pirates may, in fact, be up for sale as soon as the All-Star Game is over.

Lip

That would be the 2nd biggest slap in the face to the Chicago media in the last decade (the overall biggest slap being when the Sox won the world series).

Tekijawa
05-30-2006, 01:19 PM
On more then one occasion Mark Cuban has been quoted as saying (most recently on The Sporting News radio network) that IF his wife were to allow him to buy another sports team and IF he decided to get a baseball team, it would be the Pirates, the team he grew up rooting for.


Ironically my wife won't let me buy a sports team either... She said we need new windows, tuck pointing, roof...

Bobby Thigpen
05-30-2006, 01:21 PM
I wouldn't get on the poor Cubby fans too much about dreaming of Cuban as their owner. If I remember correctly this site was pretty abuzz a couple of years ago when the rumor was that he was buying the Sox.

Chip Z'nuff
05-30-2006, 01:57 PM
I hear the owner of one of the NBA's most winningest franchises is considering buying the White Sox. Err. Oh Wait. That already happened.

vegyrex
05-30-2006, 02:27 PM
On more then one occasion Mark Cuban has been quoted as saying (most recently on The Sporting News radio network) that IF his wife were to allow him to buy another sports team and IF he decided to get a baseball team, it would be the Pirates, the team he grew up rooting for.

TSN had a little blurb this week saying that the Pirates may, in fact, be up for sale as soon as the All-Star Game is over.

Lip


Oh my, imagine how upset Cub fans would be if he bought the Pirates instead.:smile:

It would be like their white knight riding up to the peasants of Wrigleyville as they cheer the arrival of their hero, but instead of stopping he rides past them not giving them a second look, and rides away as a stunned crowd looks on in silence. :wink:

FedEx227
05-30-2006, 03:33 PM
Cuban is actually an extremely nice guy. I've met him on 3-4 different occassions, three times at Bulls games and once at NikeTown on Michigan Ave. and he couldn't be more nice.

I hope Cuban doesn't buy the Cubs, or has no interest in buying the Cubs, because even though he hasn't won an NBA title, he tries to win at all costs and doesn't accept losing. What he did for the Mavericks is one of the most unbelievable turnarounds in sports ownership history, he took an awful team averaging about 7,000-8,000 fans and in just 2 years of ownership turned them into a perrienial powerhouse where tickets are impossible to come by.

With that being said, I think like others said he would go Pirates first and foremost. Why would a man always on the cutting edge of technology and always looking for the best ammedities for him and his players want anything to do with the Urinal. A guy who funded a brand new state of the art arena in Dallas I doubt would want to play his games in a piss-smelling craphole.

Frater Perdurabo
05-30-2006, 03:50 PM
Cuban is actually an extremely nice guy. I've met him on 3-4 different occassions, three times at Bulls games and once at NikeTown on Michigan Ave. and he couldn't be more nice.

I hope Cuban doesn't buy the Cubs, or has no interest in buying the Cubs, because even though he hasn't won an NBA title, he tries to win at all costs and doesn't accept losing. What he did for the Mavericks is one of the most unbelievable turnarounds in sports ownership history, he took an awful team averaging about 7,000-8,000 fans and in just 2 years of ownership turned them into a perrienial powerhouse where tickets are impossible to come by.

With that being said, I think like others said he would go Pirates first and foremost. Why would a man always on the cutting edge of technology and always looking for the best ammedities for him and his players want anything to do with the Urinal. A guy who funded a brand new state of the art arena in Dallas I doubt would want to play his games in a piss-smelling craphole.

As a Dallas resident, who has personally witnessed the Mavericks' turnaround under Cuban's ownership, I concur with your assessment.

I only quibble with one tiny point: taxpayers are paying the vast majority of the costs to build the American Airlines Center. The deal was made by the previous Mavericks ownership, led by Ross Perot, Jr. (a real estate developer). Perot had no interest in the Mavericks; his only interest was getting the taxpayers to build the stadium to serve as an anchor to redevelop land he had bought with other investors. Because he wanted to maximize his profits, he didn't want to sell the Mavs before the new arena was finished, but Cuban asked Perot to name the price at which he would like to sell the team once the arena was done. Perot gave Cuban a number, Cuban wrote a check for that amount, and the rest is history. Cuban did, however, personally bankroll a number of previously unplanned improvements to the arena during the construction process, particularly wi-fi access in the seating areas, major upgrades to the Mavericks locker room, and a state-of-the-art underground practice facility for the Mavs.

I heard him say the only other professional team he would be interested in buying would be the Pirates, because he's a Pittsburgh native and grew up rooting for them. He's not a Cubs fan, has no close ties to Chicago, and has no interst in the Cubs, other than to occasionally tweak their fans by feigning an interest in their woebegon existence.

Tragg
05-30-2006, 05:13 PM
The Mavs have improved a lot since Cuban took over (consistently one of the top 4 teams in the league the last several years)...Cubs haven't been that for 100 years.
Cuban is also a media magnet and a smart guy. If I were them, I'd be exicted.

whitem0nkey
05-30-2006, 05:19 PM
They even set up a http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Cuban/ petition.

like he will change his mind cause people sign up.

Max Power
05-30-2006, 05:37 PM
I'd prefer Cuban give some money to the basketball program at his alma mater (IU). We could use some upgraded facilities to go with the upgraded coach.

Ol' No. 2
05-30-2006, 07:15 PM
If Mrs. Cuban lets him buy a team, it won't be the Cubs.
Under the plan Tribune unveiled today, the company will sell off an undisclosed grab-bag of "noncore" assets, which officials explicitly said won't include the Chicago Cubs baseball team, to raise an estimated "at least" $500 million.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-060530tribune-buyback,1,4987943.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

It looks to me like the Trib's executives are worried about a takeover. They're adding $6 billion (yes, billion) in debt to buy back one-quarter of its shares.:o:

DumpJerry
05-30-2006, 07:26 PM
I just checked with the ex-wife.

She said under the divorce decree I can buy a sports team, but it can't be the Cubs.

That's ok. I have to buy gas this week for the car. I'll be a little short.

voodoochile
05-30-2006, 07:34 PM
If Mrs. Cuban lets him buy a team, it won't be the Cubs.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-060530tribune-buyback,1,4987943.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

It looks to me like the Trib's executives are worried about a takeover. They're adding $6 billion (yes, billion) in debt to buy back one-quarter of its shares.:o:

That's scary, especially if you are an investor in the corporation. I mean, that cannot be good for the stock price and that much additional debt won't be good for profits.

I can understand why they aren't talking about selling the flubbies, that's a cash cow division. Their ROI has to be simply insane at this point in time.

Steelrod
05-31-2006, 04:34 AM
That's scary, especially if you are an investor in the corporation. I mean, that cannot be good for the stock price and that much additional debt won't be good for profits.

I can understand why they aren't talking about selling the flubbies, that's a cash cow division. Their ROI has to be simply insane at this point in time.
Supporting a weak stock at a fragile time. Newspaper business is way down.
Next step could be to unload salaries to improve the bottom line. Ok by me!

ClaudelSleptHere
05-31-2006, 05:02 AM
I'd prefer Cuban give some money to the basketball program at his alma mater (IU). We could use some upgraded facilities to go with the upgraded coach.


Not sure about the "upgrade." Maybe Cuban can talk Don Nelson into going to IU.

TDog
05-31-2006, 05:48 AM
...
I hope Cuban doesn't buy the Cubs, or has no interest in buying the Cubs, because even though he hasn't won an NBA title, he tries to win at all costs and doesn't accept losing. ...

Baseball is different, of course. The people who evaluate talent make so many high-priced mistakes that few teams have been able to buy championships. Even Steinbrenner has been unsuccessful more often than not.

Frankly, because I ignore basketball, I had never heard of Cuban, although a check of his biography reveals we likely went to college together -- along with more than 30,000 other full-time students. I thought people were talking about a Cuban, like Castro. Anyway, it would seem that as a businessman, he would want to buy a franchise that would appreciate in value. I'm not sure the Cubs could. The Pirates would likely be a better business decision because he could buy low and sell high. If he were looking at losing money on the venture (something people assume he would be willing to do with the Cubs), it seems more likely he would do that for his favorite childhood team. With some people, folks, that isn't the Cubs.

I see one good thing that could be accomplished by the Tribune Co. selling the Cubs. People around here would have to figure out a new excuse for why the media treats the Sox like crap.

Steelrod
05-31-2006, 06:47 AM
Baseball is different, of course. The people who evaluate talent make so many high-priced mistakes that few teams have been able to buy championships. Even Steinbrenner has been unsuccessful more often than not.

Frankly, because I ignore basketball, I had never heard of Cuban, although a check of his biography reveals we likely went to college together -- along with more than 30,000 other full-time students. I thought people were talking about a Cuban, like Castro. Anyway, it would seem that as a businessman, he would want to buy a franchise that would appreciate in value. I'm not sure the Cubs could. The Pirates would likely be a better business decision because he could buy low and sell high. If he were looking at losing money on the venture (something people assume he would be willing to do with the Cubs), it seems more likely he would do that for his favorite childhood team. With some people, folks, that isn't the Cubs.

I see one good thing that could be accomplished by the Tribune Co. selling the Cubs. People around here would have to figure out a new excuse for why the media treats the Sox like crap.
Well put!

Frater Perdurabo
05-31-2006, 09:31 AM
Supporting a weak stock at a fragile time. Newspaper business is way down.
Next step could be to unload salaries to improve the bottom line. Ok by me!

:knue
"What goes on in the boardroom does not in any way affect what happens in the newsroom! Period! End of Story!" (pounds fists, stomps feet)

kevin57
05-31-2006, 10:36 AM
The media cries to have Cuban save the Cubs are pathetic. They would love it whether he brought success to the Cubs or not because his "style" would provide them with innumerable opportunities to opine. What has gotten lost in this frenzy are the tremendous differences between bringing success to a basketball franchise and a baseball one. To start: think minor league talent development.

HotelWhiteSox
05-31-2006, 02:26 PM
Murph today saying "Selig would never allow Cuban to buy the Cubs, plus I heard he's from Pittsburgh and might like the Pirates"

aka spinning that Cuban doesn't give two you know whats about the Cubs

Ol' No. 2
05-31-2006, 04:52 PM
That's scary, especially if you are an investor in the corporation. I mean, that cannot be good for the stock price and that much additional debt won't be good for profits.

I can understand why they aren't talking about selling the flubbies, that's a cash cow division. Their ROI has to be simply insane at this point in time.Short-term it will drive the stock price up, which is part of the reason they're doing it. But long-term, it's bad news. Moody's has already downgraded their debt by TWO levels to only one step above junk bond status. That's a big additional interest cost into the future. It may even force them to sell the Cubs just to try to pay down some of that debt.

miker
05-31-2006, 06:09 PM
Which Cuban? Fidel?

Malgar 12
05-31-2006, 09:16 PM
I'd prefer Cuban give some money to the basketball program at his alma mater (IU). We could use some upgraded facilities to go with the upgraded coach.

I'm not so sure the coach was an upgrade.

Vernam
06-01-2006, 02:29 AM
Which Cuban? Fidel?http://venus.lunarpages.com/%7Edouble2/Files/castro_baseball.jpg
Let's play two!

Oh, and uh, "Death to America!"

Vernam

TDog
06-01-2006, 03:33 PM
http://venus.lunarpages.com/%7Edouble2/Files/castro_baseball.jpg
Let's play two!

Oh, and uh, "Death to America!"

Vernam

The myth is that Fidel Castro was a pitcher who failed in his tryout with the Washington Senators. No one seems to be able to document that. He enrolled in law school in 1945 at a time when talent was pretty thin, considering the war and only only one owner even considering signing a black player.

I don't know much about Mark Cuban, but owners who become heavily involved in running their baseball teams generally don't succeed.

StockdaleForVeep
06-03-2006, 04:25 PM
Heh, whats more annoying, mark cuban or the tribune?

The Dude
06-03-2006, 05:14 PM
Heh, whats more annoying, mark cuban or the tribune?

I think they both take the cake equally!:redneck

Max Power
06-04-2006, 12:52 PM
Not sure about the "upgrade." Maybe Cuban can talk Don Nelson into going to IU.

I'm not so sure the coach was an upgrade.

Compared to Mike Davis? You or I would be an upgrade. Seriously.